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#126 - Like i previously explained there was more to it than just a s… 03/23/2016 on japan on terrorist attacks. 0
#122 - He killed them not when he thought it was necessary, but when …  [+] (2 new replies) 03/23/2016 on japan on terrorist attacks. 0
#124 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
Battle of the trench, oh a surah how convenient
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#126 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
Like i previously explained there was more to it than just a surah and just the battle of the trench, there was 9 years of torture and killing of muslims, after that quraish declared to boycott the muslims and waged war for years after that. All the things that happenned led to the surah being unveiled during the battle of badr for those people, that for them killing is better than setting free. Because when they where set free they continued with attacking and killing muslims.

What would you suggest that should have been done?
#113 - You don't understand what i'm trying to tell you. The…  [+] (4 new replies) 03/23/2016 on japan on terrorist attacks. 0
#119 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
I know exactly what you are saying, and I agree that ISIS uses Islam as a tool in its own distorted way. I certainly don't believe their interpretation is mainstream.

That being said, Muhammad disobeyed these commands you posted when he felt it was necessary. He killed those who surrendered in revenge, he enforced Islam , he wasn't "good to the prisoners" when he sold women into slavery, etc.
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#122 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
He killed them not when he thought it was necessary, but when the order came in a surah. In what way did he enforce islam, and in what war did he sell woman into slavery? If he did, you can trace back when and during what period, (meccan period, medinan period, during the battle of badr, or uhud, or the trench etc)

The muslims never sold people in slavery, they would buy them to set them free for the high reward you would receive from allah, The slaves of muslims where more like maids, they would set up a contract and base needs would need to be provided for the slaves, (food a place to stay etc) if you could not take care of the slave or act strict or aggresive agains them you would have to set the slave free because you could not take care of him/her.

When was islam enforced and when where slaves sold, could you please elaborate.
#124 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
Battle of the trench, oh a surah how convenient
User avatar
#126 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
Like i previously explained there was more to it than just a surah and just the battle of the trench, there was 9 years of torture and killing of muslims, after that quraish declared to boycott the muslims and waged war for years after that. All the things that happenned led to the surah being unveiled during the battle of badr for those people, that for them killing is better than setting free. Because when they where set free they continued with attacking and killing muslims.

What would you suggest that should have been done?
#107 - Again it is situation based, Quraish and Amerika and whatnot a…  [+] (6 new replies) 03/23/2016 on japan on terrorist attacks. +1
#110 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
fine, lets change that chart then
User avatar
#113 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
You don't understand what i'm trying to tell you.

The killing of the battle of the trench was a specific situation for them alone. That cannot be used to justify the killing of every prisoner that isis does now. Unless you feel its necessary does not fit here.
#119 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
I know exactly what you are saying, and I agree that ISIS uses Islam as a tool in its own distorted way. I certainly don't believe their interpretation is mainstream.

That being said, Muhammad disobeyed these commands you posted when he felt it was necessary. He killed those who surrendered in revenge, he enforced Islam , he wasn't "good to the prisoners" when he sold women into slavery, etc.
User avatar
#122 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
He killed them not when he thought it was necessary, but when the order came in a surah. In what way did he enforce islam, and in what war did he sell woman into slavery? If he did, you can trace back when and during what period, (meccan period, medinan period, during the battle of badr, or uhud, or the trench etc)

The muslims never sold people in slavery, they would buy them to set them free for the high reward you would receive from allah, The slaves of muslims where more like maids, they would set up a contract and base needs would need to be provided for the slaves, (food a place to stay etc) if you could not take care of the slave or act strict or aggresive agains them you would have to set the slave free because you could not take care of him/her.

When was islam enforced and when where slaves sold, could you please elaborate.
#124 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
Battle of the trench, oh a surah how convenient
User avatar
#126 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
Like i previously explained there was more to it than just a surah and just the battle of the trench, there was 9 years of torture and killing of muslims, after that quraish declared to boycott the muslims and waged war for years after that. All the things that happenned led to the surah being unveiled during the battle of badr for those people, that for them killing is better than setting free. Because when they where set free they continued with attacking and killing muslims.

What would you suggest that should have been done?
#102 - This is a whole different situation dude. For once the prisone…  [+] (8 new replies) 03/23/2016 on japan on terrorist attacks. 0
#106 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
But that leaves room for exceptions where "do not kill those who surrender" doesn't apply when its inconvenient. That can easily be interpreted in the way ISIS is choosing to interpret it, and its technically not incorrect.
User avatar
#107 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
Again it is situation based, Quraish and Amerika and whatnot are impossible to compare, What QUraish did was 10 times worse which is why they got that punishment. And to show them that even after years of training muslims are not weak nor afraid to kill their previous friends etc. This situation can not be translated to this situation.


What CAN happen and what IS happening is using proofs like these and many others, without telling the context brainwash people and spread propaganda to people to your own benifit, and that is what is happening. Isis is not doing it for islam, they are using islam to their own benefit.
#110 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
fine, lets change that chart then
User avatar
#113 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
You don't understand what i'm trying to tell you.

The killing of the battle of the trench was a specific situation for them alone. That cannot be used to justify the killing of every prisoner that isis does now. Unless you feel its necessary does not fit here.
#119 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
I know exactly what you are saying, and I agree that ISIS uses Islam as a tool in its own distorted way. I certainly don't believe their interpretation is mainstream.

That being said, Muhammad disobeyed these commands you posted when he felt it was necessary. He killed those who surrendered in revenge, he enforced Islam , he wasn't "good to the prisoners" when he sold women into slavery, etc.
User avatar
#122 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
He killed them not when he thought it was necessary, but when the order came in a surah. In what way did he enforce islam, and in what war did he sell woman into slavery? If he did, you can trace back when and during what period, (meccan period, medinan period, during the battle of badr, or uhud, or the trench etc)

The muslims never sold people in slavery, they would buy them to set them free for the high reward you would receive from allah, The slaves of muslims where more like maids, they would set up a contract and base needs would need to be provided for the slaves, (food a place to stay etc) if you could not take care of the slave or act strict or aggresive agains them you would have to set the slave free because you could not take care of him/her.

When was islam enforced and when where slaves sold, could you please elaborate.
#124 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
Battle of the trench, oh a surah how convenient
User avatar
#126 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
Like i previously explained there was more to it than just a surah and just the battle of the trench, there was 9 years of torture and killing of muslims, after that quraish declared to boycott the muslims and waged war for years after that. All the things that happenned led to the surah being unveiled during the battle of badr for those people, that for them killing is better than setting free. Because when they where set free they continued with attacking and killing muslims.

What would you suggest that should have been done?
#97 - keep in mind those guys where the ones that surrendered and at… 03/23/2016 on japan on terrorist attacks. 0
#95 - In the battle of badr they released the prisoners, which a sur…  [+] (10 new replies) 03/23/2016 on japan on terrorist attacks. 0
#99 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
Yeah but that same argument can be made about Americans, Europeans, etc. Don't you see the problem there?
User avatar
#102 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
This is a whole different situation dude. For once the prisoners are the enemy soldiers, which were people they know (since mohammad also came from mecca) so they where being attacked by people known to them. Even then the people slaughtered where the people ordered to be slaughtered in badr,

In todays war, once you release a prisoner you will not see him back because the army is so big. Secondly what quraish did was worse then what is happening now agains the muslims. At first even after they got tortured and ridiculed and killed because they where muslims they first freed them. The order to kill was send down for those people, non of this is happening now. You cannot punish a footsoldier that is fighting just of an order he got the same way you would punish Quraish who would hunt down every muslim to torture them and kill them. This is hitler lvl stuff were talking about.


But ofcourse in war and this goes for any country it is strategically better to kill of high valuable targets, but killing off every prisoner you have is wrong and is not ordered nor by allah or the prophet mohammad
#106 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
But that leaves room for exceptions where "do not kill those who surrender" doesn't apply when its inconvenient. That can easily be interpreted in the way ISIS is choosing to interpret it, and its technically not incorrect.
User avatar
#107 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
Again it is situation based, Quraish and Amerika and whatnot are impossible to compare, What QUraish did was 10 times worse which is why they got that punishment. And to show them that even after years of training muslims are not weak nor afraid to kill their previous friends etc. This situation can not be translated to this situation.


What CAN happen and what IS happening is using proofs like these and many others, without telling the context brainwash people and spread propaganda to people to your own benifit, and that is what is happening. Isis is not doing it for islam, they are using islam to their own benefit.
#110 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
fine, lets change that chart then
User avatar
#113 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
You don't understand what i'm trying to tell you.

The killing of the battle of the trench was a specific situation for them alone. That cannot be used to justify the killing of every prisoner that isis does now. Unless you feel its necessary does not fit here.
#119 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
I know exactly what you are saying, and I agree that ISIS uses Islam as a tool in its own distorted way. I certainly don't believe their interpretation is mainstream.

That being said, Muhammad disobeyed these commands you posted when he felt it was necessary. He killed those who surrendered in revenge, he enforced Islam , he wasn't "good to the prisoners" when he sold women into slavery, etc.
User avatar
#122 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
He killed them not when he thought it was necessary, but when the order came in a surah. In what way did he enforce islam, and in what war did he sell woman into slavery? If he did, you can trace back when and during what period, (meccan period, medinan period, during the battle of badr, or uhud, or the trench etc)

The muslims never sold people in slavery, they would buy them to set them free for the high reward you would receive from allah, The slaves of muslims where more like maids, they would set up a contract and base needs would need to be provided for the slaves, (food a place to stay etc) if you could not take care of the slave or act strict or aggresive agains them you would have to set the slave free because you could not take care of him/her.

When was islam enforced and when where slaves sold, could you please elaborate.
#124 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
Battle of the trench, oh a surah how convenient
User avatar
#126 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
Like i previously explained there was more to it than just a surah and just the battle of the trench, there was 9 years of torture and killing of muslims, after that quraish declared to boycott the muslims and waged war for years after that. All the things that happenned led to the surah being unveiled during the battle of badr for those people, that for them killing is better than setting free. Because when they where set free they continued with attacking and killing muslims.

What would you suggest that should have been done?
#89 - I suggest you read my conversation with sovngarde a bit furthe…  [+] (13 new replies) 03/23/2016 on japan on terrorist attacks. 0
#91 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
Yeah, but you said one of the rules of war is to not kill those who surrender. So how do you explain the beheading of the prisoners in the battle of the trench?
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#97 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
keep in mind those guys where the ones that surrendered and attacked again, surrendered again and attacked a 3rd time. In a situation like that it is clear what would happen if you would release them again.

So even this is not a proof to just slaughter every prisoner you have. this was a specific situation where slaughtering them was better than releasing them and fighting the released prisoners the next day.
User avatar
#95 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
In the battle of badr they released the prisoners, which a surah came down that said to kill them instead because of the torture they put the muslims trough and to show the others that even after torture the muslims are not weak. but this surah came down after they released them. When they recaptured them in the battle of the trench they beheaded them.
#99 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
Yeah but that same argument can be made about Americans, Europeans, etc. Don't you see the problem there?
User avatar
#102 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
This is a whole different situation dude. For once the prisoners are the enemy soldiers, which were people they know (since mohammad also came from mecca) so they where being attacked by people known to them. Even then the people slaughtered where the people ordered to be slaughtered in badr,

In todays war, once you release a prisoner you will not see him back because the army is so big. Secondly what quraish did was worse then what is happening now agains the muslims. At first even after they got tortured and ridiculed and killed because they where muslims they first freed them. The order to kill was send down for those people, non of this is happening now. You cannot punish a footsoldier that is fighting just of an order he got the same way you would punish Quraish who would hunt down every muslim to torture them and kill them. This is hitler lvl stuff were talking about.


But ofcourse in war and this goes for any country it is strategically better to kill of high valuable targets, but killing off every prisoner you have is wrong and is not ordered nor by allah or the prophet mohammad
#106 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
But that leaves room for exceptions where "do not kill those who surrender" doesn't apply when its inconvenient. That can easily be interpreted in the way ISIS is choosing to interpret it, and its technically not incorrect.
User avatar
#107 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
Again it is situation based, Quraish and Amerika and whatnot are impossible to compare, What QUraish did was 10 times worse which is why they got that punishment. And to show them that even after years of training muslims are not weak nor afraid to kill their previous friends etc. This situation can not be translated to this situation.


What CAN happen and what IS happening is using proofs like these and many others, without telling the context brainwash people and spread propaganda to people to your own benifit, and that is what is happening. Isis is not doing it for islam, they are using islam to their own benefit.
#110 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
fine, lets change that chart then
User avatar
#113 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
You don't understand what i'm trying to tell you.

The killing of the battle of the trench was a specific situation for them alone. That cannot be used to justify the killing of every prisoner that isis does now. Unless you feel its necessary does not fit here.
#119 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
I know exactly what you are saying, and I agree that ISIS uses Islam as a tool in its own distorted way. I certainly don't believe their interpretation is mainstream.

That being said, Muhammad disobeyed these commands you posted when he felt it was necessary. He killed those who surrendered in revenge, he enforced Islam , he wasn't "good to the prisoners" when he sold women into slavery, etc.
User avatar
#122 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
He killed them not when he thought it was necessary, but when the order came in a surah. In what way did he enforce islam, and in what war did he sell woman into slavery? If he did, you can trace back when and during what period, (meccan period, medinan period, during the battle of badr, or uhud, or the trench etc)

The muslims never sold people in slavery, they would buy them to set them free for the high reward you would receive from allah, The slaves of muslims where more like maids, they would set up a contract and base needs would need to be provided for the slaves, (food a place to stay etc) if you could not take care of the slave or act strict or aggresive agains them you would have to set the slave free because you could not take care of him/her.

When was islam enforced and when where slaves sold, could you please elaborate.
#124 - kanyesfishsticks (03/23/2016) [-]
Battle of the trench, oh a surah how convenient
User avatar
#126 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
Like i previously explained there was more to it than just a surah and just the battle of the trench, there was 9 years of torture and killing of muslims, after that quraish declared to boycott the muslims and waged war for years after that. All the things that happenned led to the surah being unveiled during the battle of badr for those people, that for them killing is better than setting free. Because when they where set free they continued with attacking and killing muslims.

What would you suggest that should have been done?
#88 - Also Jizya that you see in the suras and hadeeth on that websi… 03/23/2016 on japan on terrorist attacks. +1
#83 - These suras of the quran mostly are about their wars against q… 03/23/2016 on japan on terrorist attacks. +2