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|#8 - Britfag here. The reason many of us wish to leave the EU is be… [+] (23 new replies)||02/27/2016 on Unions Are Stronger||+168|
#41 - youguesswho (02/28/2016) [-]
Wahaaaaay hometown mentioned on FJ
But no we shouldn't leave, focusing solely on trade the EU has been much more beneficial for the UK and STILL is. The removal of all associated tariff costs with trade between member states is but one of number of ways of how the UK still benefits from membership, and yes I'm aware of the Norway set up but who's to say if we were to leave that the EU would be willing to negotiate such terms? Apart from the economic aspect there's also the political aspect whereby being apart of such a large institution is invaluable in allowing citizens voices to be heard. A Brexit would mean the UK would have no say in shaping one of the largest institutions in the world. A side point worth mentioning is that currently levels of uncertainty within the UK are deterring investors and leaving the EU would cause further economic shocks, something that the UK economy does NOT need right now.
#24 - ompalomper (02/27/2016) [-]
im not critizising your will to change but im saying this
the UK leaving is NOT filing a notice that you want to leave the club
its removing a bone from the human body and expecting the body to work or removing a card from a house of cards while keeping the house standing.
#58 - ompalomper (02/28/2016) [-]
More like they shouldn't have used the body as a forklift.
Seriously, I fully agree with the he post, it was meant for trade and movement of citizens, students and workers not this fucking mess.
What I believe is that the thing is fundamentally good, we just need to stop abusing it and use it properly NOT abandoning it. But again, I can't blame you
#12 - hawaiianpizza (02/27/2016) [-]
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**hawaiianpizza rolled image**Dont forget that the EU were going to ban powerful kettles (yup you heard me, kettles) but that got put that on hold for now since they think it would be negative for the in campaign....
All in all, The EU has gone to shit (Making stupid laws and interfering with our courts (screw the EU human rights shit) lack of border controls and immigration, generally being a bunch of cuck faggots) and some of the UK wants out before any more of the shit flows into the country.
I'm a britfag
#9 - truemecid (02/27/2016) [-]
I tried to check some sites about this information and came up with this source, which is the only one which actually cites official numbers from different sources:
It seems the fee is about £23mil daily cost, which is still a lot. Plus it would seem according to several sources that Great Britain leaving the EU would be detrimental to the economy:
See page 89 - 92 for the conclusion unless you wanna read the entire 96 page report.
So the point is, if Britain isolates itself from the rest of EU it would have some bad consequences to the economy and if the numbers are anything to go by it would mean a loss of about 14% of GDP (about £313billion) in one year which pretty much corresponds to how much the UK has spend on the EU since 1973. So it seems the EU is not that bad of an idea.
#13 - guillem (02/27/2016) [-]
Yeah, most people do not seem to realize that. Yeah, belonging to the EU has its costs (whatever they are), but leaving it after being so reliant on it would probably mean an economic wreck in the UK (aside from Scotland wanting to secede again, I've read somewhere that most scots want to stay in the EU, and if the UK truly wants to leave they will want another referendum).
At the end of the day, I think it is positive that British citizens are re-thinking their place in the EU, as the people deciding is a good thing in my book, I just hope they decide to stay. They already have a privileged status in the EU (they have things that other countries don't) and even though they may pay quite a bit, I do honestly think that Europe is stronger together.
#60 - guillem (02/28/2016) [-]
I respect it as your opinion, but I disagree with it. The EU hasn't stripped the UK of "all its parliamentary sovereignty", solely because of the fact that the Union doesn't have competence in several key and important areas, in which the states hold the exclusive right to dictate law, regulations and the like. While it is true that it has stripped some sovereignty, that is the whole point of the Union. I am fine with the UK wanting to leave, it is their decision after all, but I honestly think this should be thought out thoroughly, not in a whim and through demagogic remarks (which is what politicians trying to sway people one way or the other will most likely do).
#48 - crusaderzav (02/28/2016) [-]
The wealthy countries such as Italy, France, Germany and the UK should never be responsible for propping up those countries which have no clue how to manage their economies. Why should the general public of one country have large portions of their salaries just taken from them in the form of tax, if it is going towards supporting the Greeks when they contribute nothing but debt?
Not only that, the MEP's are unelected, barely representative of the population(s) of their respective countries and is overall a good idea gone horribly wrong by left wing super liberals. We have minimal control over our borders and we have to prop up countries which would otherwise default, because their citizens are lazy and their government is lax. But we have to pick up the pieces. The wealthier countries and wealthier for a reason.
#55 - afrosheep (02/28/2016) [-]
I understand what your saying but saying that the E.U is a step in the wrong direction is ridiculous. It shouldn't be outlandish to say that Europe is on the brink of economic backwardness as it can not hope to hold it's own against the growing economies in Asia and soon Africa. The way I see it Europe's best chance at staying relevant in the future global economy is to unify into one central government; the E.U.(although flawed in some areas) is what I imagine the first stepping stones to a unified Europe would look like. The EU is unfair as it stands but remember in a capitalistic world only a few remain strong while the rest remain fodder for the rich.
#56 - afrosheep (02/28/2016) [-]
I'm sorry are you implying that I should rise to world power economic status and change the world with sheer will power. An individual cannot become strong without others; whether they are along side them or dead at their feet. I for one like people to support each other as equals and if you are weak them you deserve support. If we all just thought of our selves all the time society never would have anywhere in the first place. Also if you aren't consecutive then what are you?
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|#6 - Your family sound like cunts. My family are just the same, las… [+] (15 new replies)||12/25/2015 on Anons merry Christmas:)||+287|
#46 - anon (12/25/2015) [-]
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heres the problem:
you shouldnt expect anything. the point of christmas is spending time with your loved ones (family, friends, gf/bf or even pets). you're prioritizing gifts over everything else which tells me that its all you care about when it comes to christmas. you seem like the shallow type thats only in it for materialistic things.
#53 - anon (12/25/2015) [-]
perhaps it has more to do with the fact that said family are showering everyone else with presents--- while not even giving the guy in question so much as a christmas card.
#138 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
Love how everyone who calls this guy out on being mardy gets thumbed down, he didn't say anything about not getting a card, and by how much of a faggot he's being i'm sure he would have done if it were true, so i'm assuming they got him a card. Thinking you deserve presents for helping someone out doesn't make you a nice person, doing it out of the goodness of your heart makes you nice, but if you go crying they didn't return the favour you're just a whiny bitch, especially with the fact that they're his PARENTS, they've done far fucking more for him than he'll ever do for them and he's being ungrateful, his parents deserve better, i'm sure his sister is grateful for all they've done for her, so they like to treat her. I mean what kind of self respecting adult even expects gifts from their parents still? it's bad enough when children complain about not getting what they want, but this guy is a fucking adult!
#67 - anon (12/25/2015) [-]
ive never understood christmas cards. why not just say "merry christmas" rather than giving a card saying the exact same thing? christmas cards are mainly to send out to people you won't be able to see on christmas. if you're there in-person, you could just say it.
#126 - anon (12/26/2015) [-]
It's more thoughtful. Shows you care other then just showing up and happen to see them so you say it. Plus Christmas cards usually have money/gift cards in them and nice notes.
#47 - anon (12/25/2015) [-]
just to add on, if you're helping your family out of the goodness of your heart, you wouldn't really care if you got gifts or not. basically, you're only being nice because you expect something (gifts) in return.
#39 - anon (12/25/2015) [-]
Grow up dude, can tell this site is full of mongs by the fact they're thumbing someone up for being a bitchy little child. Your parents raised you, they spent their life making you priority, and now you're old enough to look after yourself you still want them to shower you with gifts you can get yourself now? I don't believe you''re even helping them financially, because if you are, why would you want them wasting their money that they don't have. they buy your unemployed sister presents? Wow, it's as if she still needs support because she has no income. Stop being a cunt and be grateful.
#102 - djmaryhikineet (12/26/2015) [-]
note how he has more thumbs and your anon, the problem with the argument people are making with that he shouldn't expect it, its that it isnt the fact hes gets no presents at all but the fact the one who isn't as helpful gets a present despite not being a productive person. the mind set of these parents are that "oh they can support themselves fine and shouldn't need a gift, so lets give it to the one who isn't able to" when really they should think what even if they can support themselves it would be nice to give them something for being able to compared if they couldn't. and im not say the others shouldn't get gifts at all but if you give them positive reinforcement for something that isn't a good habit like not being able to support yourself and live off of the government. though yes this doesn't need to be applied as i myself am pretty much living off of my parents but i don't ask for much other then what they give me to live and the few games and amiibos every few months. my more productive younger brother asks for more stuff more often as hes active more then i am. i myself have alot of problems so i can see why parents would favor the least productive one but to ignore the productive one is a shitty thing to do.
|#25 - Refuse to pay. What are they gonna do? Put your appendix back in? [+] (7 new replies)||12/13/2015 on I haven't realised you've...||+12|
#29 - shadoworchestra (12/13/2015) [-]
The funny thing is...it's exactly that kind of thinking that results in an appendectomy costing 55 grand. In the United States, a public hospital legally cannot turn patients away regardless of a their financial resources. So what ends up happening is...people get the service but don't pay. "Oh no, I don't have insurance and can't pay for that life saving surgery. What are you gonna do? Stick the appendix back in me? Foreclose on my apartment? Take my '93 Accord? I have no money."
Hospitals are not cheap to operate. Every time someone doesn't pay, the hospital redistributes the bill from those who can't pay to those who they think can. If enough people don't pay, appendectomy's end up costing 55,000 dollars. Then insurance companies are like "dafuq?" so to combat the rising cost of hospitals, they have to jack their rates. Rinse and repeat a few times and you get America's current health care system.
The Affordable Care Act was supposed to help fix this problem by making sure everyone had full insurance...but that's a whole 'nother shit show.
#119 - ellojello (12/14/2015) [-]
I don't know if this is a serious question or not, but no. While it's true that the uninsured or under-insured do put an extra burden on our system, most of the reason prices are jacked up is due to the insurance-middle man and hugely inefficient bureaucracies that run hospitals. Also, procedures like this aren't free market, no matter what anyone says. If you are having a heart attack or an appendix bursts, you HAVE to go to whatever hospital is closest and they will charge you whatever they charge you; your choice is get the operation or fucking die. This leaves the medical facilities in a position of absolute power. They might as well charge big and have you owe them for life; they might not be able to collect the whole bill but they will certainly be able to take every penny you have, possibly even for years to come.
Morgan Spurlock just had a new season of Inside Man released on Netflix; in the latest season one of the early episodes he reports some on medical tourism. Going to other countries to get medical aid instead of local hospitals. While he doesn't use as many hard facts/figures/science/economics as I might like, it's still interesting and a good contrast to the USA's system. He flew to Bangkok and stayed in a hotel room. It 2-3 days he got 4 appointments with specialists, an appointment with a primary care physician, a colonoscopy, an MRI, a chest X-ray, and a short PT session and it ran him ~$4500USD (including the hotel room, airfare, and other travel expenses) (also, this was TOTAL, not just the portion he had to pay; no insurance involved); the care was high-quality and the facilities looked more like a 4 star hotel than a hospital. The estimate for similar care in the USA was $7,000-$14,000 just for the medical care (obviously you don't pay for a hotel room if you already live here).
The medical system in the USA gouges, plain and simple. No matter what the republicans say (sorry to bring politics in, but oh fuckin' well), medicine is not a free market system the vast majority of the time and, even when it is, the insurance companies make it insanely difficult to shop for a good deal since it obscures all the prices. Maybe they will cover, maybe they won't. That's the real issue. Almost all other countries of some kind of mandates in place for how much various procedures are allowed to cost.
#192 - durkadurka (12/14/2015) [-]
>If you are having a heart attack or an appendix bursts,
>medicine is not a free market system the vast majority of the time
The appendix bursting or heart attack are certainly not what's occurring the majority of the time.
So honestly it'd be the reverse Not in terms of what we actually have, but in terms of how much a free market could be applied to health care .
Really there'd be huge advantages to taking simple things like checkups or simple prescription off of the insurance system and letting people pay for them out of pocket.
For emergency issues, you're right in that you're not going to care about price and a free market isn't really going to be applicable in those situations. But again, these are extraordinary situations, and developing a system for purely those types of situations would be much more manageable and cheaper to boot.
>insurance companies make it insanely difficult to shop for a good deal since it obscures all the prices. Maybe they will cover, maybe they won't. That's the real issue.
Absolutely. The consumer has no way or reason to care about what is actually being charged. The obvious solution then is to create incentive for them to care as opposed to some grandiose central planning scheme.
#132 - ellojello (12/14/2015) [-]
The problem with that, though, is that some areas it does genuinely cost more to provide care. Even just looking at electricity costs to run some of the machines and such.
I'm not saying I disagree, I'm a big proponent of some form of standardization and socialization of the health care system in general. But the whole system needs to be completely overhauled in the USA to run more efficiently and to provide a high quality of care.
Maybe start opening socialized hospitals that provide all the free care and cut subsidies that exist to for-profit hospitals. Let them try to compete with the government run? Maybe we just need make medical insurance companies illegal, have everyone pay into a single socialized system? All insurance is socialist redistribution of wealth; anyone who willfully buys insurance is a socialist whether they acknowledge it or not. Theoretically, have a national system would be more efficient; more people paying in is always better for those kinds of things but who knows how it would work in practice.
there's no really good answer to this whole problem at the moment, as far as I can tell
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