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#76 - iirc the lethal dose for sarin/vx is about 40 milligrams  [+] (6 new replies) 06/02/2016 on Nerve Gas on Off-duty Goat +1
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#77 - gatodelfuego (06/02/2016) [-]
It's not the "gas" that's deadly, it's the vapor. It's not like zyklon B or carbon monoxide where you have to breathe it to become affected. Most nerve agents are absorbed through the skin, so gas masks don't help. That's what makes them so good at killing people.
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#80 - mikaelkid (06/02/2016) [-]
Can you tell me more? So it hits the skin, is absorbed in like some type of lotion, but requires no rubbing?

40mgs can kill someone... has it been used in any war? I'm assuming WW2
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#83 - gatodelfuego (06/02/2016) [-]
I'm not an expert, I just read a lot of Wikipedia. But human skin is porous, so chemicals can be absorbed through it. Because nerve gas targets nerves, hence the name, it doesn't need to be in the bloodstream or cells to kill something through toxicity. As nerve gas spreads to the body, it overloads nerve cells and basically paralyzes somebody's entire body. This is why its so effective, because nerves are touchy and don't require a lot of stimulation to be altered. The human body basically kills itself by choking rather than being 'poisoned'

Nerve gas has never been used in any major conflict, but has been used in the Syrian civil war as well as the Iran/Iraq war. The USA and UK have done a lot of extensive testing on animals though, and one British soldier was killed in a test of I believe vx, where he volunteered to test the lethal dose. A couple drops were placed on his skin and a couple hours later he was dead.

Because the body doesn't realize its being poisoned (as its technically not), theres no reaction to nerve agents affecting you. They're odorless and colorless, so you'll never know they exist until its far too late.

And THATS why the un bans them from warfare.
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#84 - mikaelkid (06/02/2016) [-]
Holy hell. A weapon to surpass Metal Gear.

In all actuality though that is extremely scary and unnerving sorry .
That is insane to volunteer to be tested on. So you're paralyzed by nerve signals and nerves overloading? After you're paralyzed what happens then? Body shuts down somehow?

Thank you for the information gatodelfuego (cat on fire?)
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#87 - gatodelfuego (06/02/2016) [-]
yeah, they never told him what he was testing. Just that it would help the country....and yeah, that's my name!
#86 - anon (06/02/2016) [-]
All your muscles lock up, so you can't breathe and suffocate. The nerves send signals to your muscles that causes them to convulse and go into seizures
#799 - **gatodelfuego used "*roll 1, male privilege*"** **gatodelf… 06/02/2016 on Giveaway time bitches 0
#47 - people have been killed by just a few drops of nerve agents pu…  [+] (8 new replies) 06/02/2016 on Nerve Gas on Off-duty Goat +2
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#74 - mikaelkid (06/02/2016) [-]
Holy hell... time to research this and its compounds.
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#76 - gatodelfuego (06/02/2016) [-]
iirc the lethal dose for sarin/vx is about 40 milligrams
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#77 - gatodelfuego (06/02/2016) [-]
It's not the "gas" that's deadly, it's the vapor. It's not like zyklon B or carbon monoxide where you have to breathe it to become affected. Most nerve agents are absorbed through the skin, so gas masks don't help. That's what makes them so good at killing people.
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#80 - mikaelkid (06/02/2016) [-]
Can you tell me more? So it hits the skin, is absorbed in like some type of lotion, but requires no rubbing?

40mgs can kill someone... has it been used in any war? I'm assuming WW2
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#83 - gatodelfuego (06/02/2016) [-]
I'm not an expert, I just read a lot of Wikipedia. But human skin is porous, so chemicals can be absorbed through it. Because nerve gas targets nerves, hence the name, it doesn't need to be in the bloodstream or cells to kill something through toxicity. As nerve gas spreads to the body, it overloads nerve cells and basically paralyzes somebody's entire body. This is why its so effective, because nerves are touchy and don't require a lot of stimulation to be altered. The human body basically kills itself by choking rather than being 'poisoned'

Nerve gas has never been used in any major conflict, but has been used in the Syrian civil war as well as the Iran/Iraq war. The USA and UK have done a lot of extensive testing on animals though, and one British soldier was killed in a test of I believe vx, where he volunteered to test the lethal dose. A couple drops were placed on his skin and a couple hours later he was dead.

Because the body doesn't realize its being poisoned (as its technically not), theres no reaction to nerve agents affecting you. They're odorless and colorless, so you'll never know they exist until its far too late.

And THATS why the un bans them from warfare.
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#84 - mikaelkid (06/02/2016) [-]
Holy hell. A weapon to surpass Metal Gear.

In all actuality though that is extremely scary and unnerving sorry .
That is insane to volunteer to be tested on. So you're paralyzed by nerve signals and nerves overloading? After you're paralyzed what happens then? Body shuts down somehow?

Thank you for the information gatodelfuego (cat on fire?)
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#87 - gatodelfuego (06/02/2016) [-]
yeah, they never told him what he was testing. Just that it would help the country....and yeah, that's my name!
#86 - anon (06/02/2016) [-]
All your muscles lock up, so you can't breathe and suffocate. The nerves send signals to your muscles that causes them to convulse and go into seizures
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#25 - It's quite different from borderlands. It has an 8 m…  [+] (1 new reply) 05/30/2016 on Another Overwatch comp +3
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#26 - rejakted (05/30/2016) [-]
I'm not one to replay games when I'm done with the story until a fair amount of time has passed. And I can't play the PvP coz... well... I pirate.
So I guess I won't be getting Battleborn until much later.

Thank you for the info, though.
#21 - Do black people steal things? Don't believe…  [+] (3 new replies) 05/30/2016 on Another Overwatch comp +68
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#23 - rejakted (05/30/2016) [-]
Ohhhh.

How different is it from Borderlands? Can I solo the game? Is it single-player?
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#25 - gatodelfuego (05/30/2016) [-]
It's quite different from borderlands.

It has an 8 mission "story mode", where you fight minions and bosses through levels. It's got 26 characters right now (out of 30), each with a primary weapon, a passive ability, and three skills. During a level/match, the characters level up, and you can choose between two augments at each level to benefit your character in different ways, up to level 10. I enjoy story mode a lot, mostly because there's tons of challenges to do and tons of gear to collect. Because every character is different, there's a lot of replay value in the story. I find it really fun, even playing solo. It's better with others, though; the solo experience isn't as good as borderlands. But there's an active discord server you can pop into and quickly form up with a team and then forget all about after the match is over.

Each level is about 30-45 minutes long, so you can beat the "story" in about 4 hours. But like I said, there's all the different characters to play as you can replay the missions over and over. Though, a good portion of them have to be unlocked by leveling up your account, or completing challenges in each level. Some of them can be unlocked as you complete each level and some of them can be unlocked by achiving high scores. But all can be unlocked as you level up your account.

Then, there's the entire PvP aspect of the game. I've played a fair amount with a few characters, but have been focusing on story for some time. Killing minions is VERY important in PvP; in fact seeking out player kills is really bad for the team and will wind up with you losing. Matches are about 20 minutes long, and it encourages long-term strategy and thinking. You can overextend to get a kill on a player and die, but that can be at the expense of letting the other team's minions get past your defenses and score tons of points.
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#26 - rejakted (05/30/2016) [-]
I'm not one to replay games when I'm done with the story until a fair amount of time has passed. And I can't play the PvP coz... well... I pirate.
So I guess I won't be getting Battleborn until much later.

Thank you for the info, though.
#1214966 - in case anybody else was looking for it 05/30/2016 on Anime & Manga - anime... +1
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#1214966 - gatodelfuego (05/30/2016) [-]
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#128 - you're entirely right. Battleborn was announced summer 2014, o… 05/30/2016 on literally the same +1