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#647 - Marvellous, so how would guns decrease that crime rate?  [+] (1 new reply) 06/12/2014 on don't be a pleb 0
User avatar #649 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
I dunno, why don't you ask the over 800,000 people who decided not to be victims and used a firearm in self defense last year? I've been a victim of a home break in, I wouldn't be alive and proving you wrong right now if I didn't own a firearm.
#637 - why would you give me your address? haha 06/12/2014 on don't be a pleb 0
#628 - I've never been shot before.  [+] (3 new replies) 06/12/2014 on don't be a pleb 0
#632 - smellyfinger (06/12/2014) [-]
Can I give you my address? I'll take care of that.
User avatar #753 - varrlegrimscythe (06/12/2014) [-]
People like you are a disgrace to the gun owning community.
User avatar #637 - fishkrieg (06/12/2014) [-]
why would you give me your address? haha
#616 - The Daily Mail is one of the least credible sources haha  [+] (3 new replies) 06/12/2014 on don't be a pleb 0
User avatar #630 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
>I'm wrong so I'm just gonna say his source is bad

Here's another one

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/5712573/UK-is-violent-crime-capital-of-Europe.html
User avatar #647 - fishkrieg (06/12/2014) [-]
Marvellous, so how would guns decrease that crime rate?
User avatar #649 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
I dunno, why don't you ask the over 800,000 people who decided not to be victims and used a firearm in self defense last year? I've been a victim of a home break in, I wouldn't be alive and proving you wrong right now if I didn't own a firearm.
#610 - I've never been stabbed in England and I don't know anyone who…  [+] (5 new replies) 06/12/2014 on don't be a pleb 0
User avatar #613 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
No, it doesn't, see the link below.
User avatar #616 - fishkrieg (06/12/2014) [-]
The Daily Mail is one of the least credible sources haha
User avatar #630 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
>I'm wrong so I'm just gonna say his source is bad

Here's another one

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/5712573/UK-is-violent-crime-capital-of-Europe.html
User avatar #647 - fishkrieg (06/12/2014) [-]
Marvellous, so how would guns decrease that crime rate?
User avatar #649 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
I dunno, why don't you ask the over 800,000 people who decided not to be victims and used a firearm in self defense last year? I've been a victim of a home break in, I wouldn't be alive and proving you wrong right now if I didn't own a firearm.
#592 - how about just don't have guns.  [+] (51 new replies) 06/12/2014 on don't be a pleb 0
#624 - smellyfinger (06/12/2014) [-]
idiots like you become victims.
User avatar #628 - fishkrieg (06/12/2014) [-]
I've never been shot before.
#632 - smellyfinger (06/12/2014) [-]
Can I give you my address? I'll take care of that.
User avatar #753 - varrlegrimscythe (06/12/2014) [-]
People like you are a disgrace to the gun owning community.
User avatar #637 - fishkrieg (06/12/2014) [-]
why would you give me your address? haha
User avatar #601 - smokingman (06/12/2014) [-]
Proper gun control seems to work for most European countries, but hey, America is special, we can't have none of that WORKING stuff.
#631 - smellyfinger (06/12/2014) [-]
hmm lets see, GUN CONTROL... well that only works on law abiding citizens. If you want to ban violence... ban people, ban cars, ban scissors. Guns are going to get in regardless and the criminals don't care. You are a victim or you are not. Your choice.
User avatar #745 - Endofzeeworld (06/12/2014) [-]
CRIMINALS DONT FOLLOW LAWS THEREFORE WE SHOULDNT HAVE LAWS
YOURE A FUCKING GENIUS, M8.
User avatar #633 - smokingman (06/12/2014) [-]
Nah, cars are useful.
Scissors are useful.
Guns are just compensating your inadequacy.
#640 - smellyfinger (06/12/2014) [-]
Guns are useful, they are a tool, just like any other thing. How about killing your first game and trying that instead of going to the store. Might want to try it city boy.
User avatar #646 - smokingman (06/12/2014) [-]
I own guns, and I don't kill for fun.
And I was born in Moldova, which is the poorest country in Europe.

You've got no business calling me country boy.
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User avatar #652 - smokingman (06/12/2014) [-]
I never said I don't like guns.
I'm for gun control, which is a gun lover's position.
#662 - smellyfinger (06/12/2014) [-]
Then why the hell do you own a gun, are you "compensating for your inadequacy"?
User avatar #663 - smokingman (06/12/2014) [-]
Yes, and so do you.
#669 - smellyfinger (06/12/2014) [-]
Idiot, your priorities are all fucked, go do some yoga, get out of this conversation you dim wit.
User avatar #672 - smokingman (06/12/2014) [-]
Yeah, yeah, whatever.
Lame.
User avatar #611 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
Except for those several times they tried having strict gun control and it didn't work...
User avatar #615 - smokingman (06/12/2014) [-]
Examples.
User avatar #619 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
Chicago, Illinois. tightest gun control in the United states, harder to get a gun there than Canada.

Chicago is also the homicide capitol of the United States.

Los Angles, California. Almost as tight as Chicago, extreme gang violence, second most violent city in America.

Washington, had an ENTIRE BAN on handguns, also one of the most violent states.

Now, Maine. Loosest gun control in the US, safest state to live in the US.
Alaska, extremely loose gun control, your biggest worry there is a moose.
Virginia, Pennsylvania, do I need to go on?
#675 - sacrilegious (06/12/2014) [-]
As a Washingtonian, I'm curious for a source of those stats. I don't feel like I live in a violent state.
#683 - sacrilegious has deleted their comment.
#684 - sacrilegious (06/12/2014) [-]
33rd is hardly one of the most violent...
User avatar #689 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
Yeah, over 165,000 thefts, over 60,000 burglaries, and over 2,000 rapes isn't that bad... right?
User avatar #623 - smokingman (06/12/2014) [-]
Oh yea, gun control will sure work, when half states have none.

Also, you might realize that it isn't the bans that causes violence, it's the violence that causes bans.
Get your logic straight.
User avatar #626 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
Okay so then explain to me why states with little gun control are safer to live in than states with tight gun control? Oh wait, you can't, and you're too stubborn to just admit you're wrong, I can already tell that.
User avatar #634 - smokingman (06/12/2014) [-]
I've already said it, it's violence that causes bans, not bans that cause violence.
Logic, dude.
User avatar #639 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
So you're just gonna dodge my question? Dang, you should run for president.
User avatar #642 - smokingman (06/12/2014) [-]
But I just answered!

Seriously, dude, get some glasses and shit.
User avatar #645 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
"explain to me why states with little gun control are safer to live in than states with tight gun control?"

You did not answer that.
User avatar #656 - smokingman (06/12/2014) [-]
Alright, you can't read, I'll spell it out for you.

Originally, all states had similar gun laws.

Some states were richer, some poorer.
Some were more urbanized, some less, some were less socially equal.
Some attracted poor people from all over the country.

Those became violent.
Gangs, organized crime, et caetera.

People feld endangered, people elected officials who introduced gun bans.
Now you have states which are still violent, but under gun bans.

There you go, "violence causes bans" in poor words.
User avatar #658 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
And your bans are doing literally nothing to stop the crime so what does that say about your beliefs?
User avatar #667 - smokingman (06/12/2014) [-]
It's hard for a ban to stop violence when there are milions of guns around.

It's a start, and it assures that no more new guns will end up in a criminal's hand.

The ones already around are slowly getting pinned down.

The fact that there are no instantly visible advantages doesn't mean that it isn't working.
Change is a slow process.

#671 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
>no more new guns will end up in a criminal's hand.

Except for when your corrupt anti-gun politicians are selling them to the criminals

*cough* Leeland Yee *cough*
User avatar #674 - smokingman (06/12/2014) [-]
Examples.

Also, their corruption isn't mine.
Humans are human, corruption is everywhere.
We weed out the corrupt ones, we carry on.
User avatar #677 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
I literally just gave you an example, Leeland Yee, or how about Obama and Eric holder with "Operation Fast and Furious" where they literally gave fully automatic assault rifles to the Mexican Cartels and then acted surprised when they killed a Border Patrol agent and several children with those same guns.
User avatar #687 - smokingman (06/12/2014) [-]
The latter was a failed anti-cartel strategy, it has little to do with gun control.

As for Yee, yeah, that guy is a scumbag, and he deserves jail to no end.
That doesn't take away from the ultimate validity of gun control laws.

Look, I don't understand why gun lovers wouldn't want gun control.
All it means is ensuring that guns don't end up in the wrong hands, that's it.
Why the fuck wouldn't you want that?
User avatar #690 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
Because we already have that, you can't stop guns from coming into America from Mexico by saying "das illigal dun do et", yet they come in anyways, all you're doing is dissarming legal citizens who want to defend themselves. Criminals don't care about laws, why the fuck do you think the war on drugs failed?
User avatar #702 - smokingman (06/12/2014) [-]
No, you don't already have that.
That's why people shoot schools with legally purchased weapons.

No, I'm not disarming people.
I'm just making sure that crazy people don't get guns.
Give them tazers, that shit works.
Would you give lethal self-defense tools to a man that is most likely to use them to harm someone?

The war on drugs failed because it criminalized drug use.
Because there are hundreds of thousands of people in private prisons, convicted for using drugs.
Because it's a war, and not a campaign, taht's why it failed.
The war on drugs has little to do with weapon control.
User avatar #705 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
"give them tazers that should work" Jesus dude, you're like a child, did you even put any thought into that? What if you miss? What if thy're high and cant feel pain? What if it only pisses them off more?

You are literally just too stubborn to admit that you're wrong. I'm getting tired of sitting here replying to you and just proving you wrong comment after comment. We're done here.
User avatar #600 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
And then get stabbed because you didn't attack the main source of the problem: Gangs.

Great Britain did that, they though "Oh if we just ban guns violence will go away!" no, you britbong tards, the gangs just decided to use different weapons, there's a reason why Great Britain is the most violent country in the European Union...
User avatar #610 - fishkrieg (06/12/2014) [-]
I've never been stabbed in England and I don't know anyone who has. It's probably way less common than you'd imagine.
User avatar #613 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
No, it doesn't, see the link below.
User avatar #616 - fishkrieg (06/12/2014) [-]
The Daily Mail is one of the least credible sources haha
User avatar #630 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
>I'm wrong so I'm just gonna say his source is bad

Here's another one

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/5712573/UK-is-violent-crime-capital-of-Europe.html
User avatar #647 - fishkrieg (06/12/2014) [-]
Marvellous, so how would guns decrease that crime rate?
User avatar #649 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
I dunno, why don't you ask the over 800,000 people who decided not to be victims and used a firearm in self defense last year? I've been a victim of a home break in, I wouldn't be alive and proving you wrong right now if I didn't own a firearm.
User avatar #605 - smokingman (06/12/2014) [-]
Britain is the most violent country in the EU?

Did you read that bullshit somewhere, or did you just make it up?
User avatar #609 - roliga (06/12/2014) [-]
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html

Don't you have a muslim you should be apologizing to right now or something?
User avatar #617 - smokingman (06/12/2014) [-]
Nice 2009 study, dude.
Check out what goes by "violent crime", in Britain.

Have you ever been in Romania?
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#14 - xxxsonic fanxxx (09/07/2012) [-]
i think you should have a ******* amazing day random FJ user, seriously.

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why thank you anon, have a glorious day too
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