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#151 - The Norse Gods gave you a flag with a cross in it. Seems legit  [+] (1 new reply) 07/02/2014 on Scandinavians +4
User avatar #190 - bjornkrage (07/02/2014) [-]
shh, don't let them know
#99 - I'm sorry to hear that about the teenagers  [+] (1 new reply) 07/02/2014 on dmagen's profile 0
User avatar #100 - dmagen (07/02/2014) [-]
thanks
really a stupid loss of life
#153 - Well the arguments I presented does make it very unique. T… 07/02/2014 on finni's profile 0
#151 - "just look at the evidence. countless religions, all clai…  [+] (2 new replies) 06/20/2014 on finni's profile 0
User avatar #152 - dmagen (06/21/2014) [-]
it's more like a 1000 people came to the police to claim they murdered a man nobody has ever seen or heard of, with no compliant ever heard of a "missing man".

it does matter because a religious point of view is not a unique one, it has nothing special that makes it worth a decent consideration.
going with that example, after the police starts to see that 10, 12, and then 20 people "evidence" is completely made up, they decide that continuing investigating that case is a waste of man power.

on the contrary, until a century ago we thought physics is deterministic in nature and now every aspect of it has turned around to suggest an inherently unpredictable universe on the miniature scale.
(just on a note, you should read that article it really blows your mind nautil.us/issue/9/time/in-search-of-times-origin )

I can not say for certain that anything that exists must have a cause, because even time itself may not be a fundamental part of the universe, but let's assume it does hold true.
there are two options either that beginning itself, as ungraspable as it was, was a "natural" process, or that an imaginably sophisticated being spontaneously came to being, himself without a beginning, only to create an unlimited universe so that he could choose a tiny speck of dust out and from that a tiny group from one species to worship him because apparently he's got confidence issues and needs to be remembered how awesome he is.

why does the universe exist? we don't know... but that doesn't mean you can fill that gap with any argument you like and call it true.
User avatar #153 - finni (07/02/2014) [-]
Well the arguments I presented does make it very unique.
The point of my analogy is that even if there have been countless of religions claiming their gods to be the true one and all of them wrong, does not mean that my god has to be the same. The evidence have ruled out all the other gods, but it does not mean that God has to be ruled out. It's all about the evidence.

I presented to you the fine-tuning argument, kalam cosmological argument, ontological argument, argument from contingency. All of these arguments points to a Creator of the universe.
#149 - We can still discuss these things without them being emotional…  [+] (4 new replies) 06/20/2014 on finni's profile 0
User avatar #150 - dmagen (06/20/2014) [-]
yeah but I don't like talking about it...
but if you insist,
so first of all the only parts that old testament got right was stuff about historic events that happened to the old Jewish kingdom, and even then it's filled with a lot of a lot of divine interpretation that was made up afterward to justify exactly what went wrong.

secondly, I believe that there are no good reason believing in a god.
just look at the evidence. countless religions, all claiming to have the right god/gods/deities, all obviously impacted by the culture the believers lived in, and if survived long enough change and accommodate to the changing culture. all based on their own stories that "prove" they are right, no matter how improbable those stories are to ever have happened.

on the other hand, the scientific inquiry of the world has led to so many things, so much knowledge gained, and not a single hint pointing at a creator.

science seeks evidence and later build itself upon those to be as close to the truth as possible. not so is religion which depicts the truth and then seeks evidence to verify it later, ignoring any counter evidence as bogus or interpreting it in a highly illogical manner to fit the "truth".

because of that, religion can only ever exist behind the gaps of knowledge science has.
first god was in the sky, then he was in space, and now he's god knows where (pun intended).
first god created the earth, then god created the entire solar system, and now god created the big bang or something (I have no idea what stories people tell themselves).

don't say "you don't know why A is, so it's possible that it's because of B and you can't prove otherwise"
say "you and I don't know what A is, but Iv'e got a proposition B to explain it, what do you think about it? can we verify it? if not do you perhaps have better ideas?"

also I agree that the existence of a god is not illogical in and of itself, but the religious depiction of him is ludicrous.
User avatar #151 - finni (06/20/2014) [-]
"just look at the evidence. countless religions, all claiming to have the right god/gods/deities, all obviously impacted by the culture the believers lived in, and if survived long enough change and accommodate to the changing culture. all based on their own stories that "prove" they are right, no matter how improbable those stories are to ever have happened. "

If there is a murder and the police is to investigate this murder they identify a gun was used. Let's say they bring 100 suspects and none of them matches the fingerprint on the gun. Then let's say they take a thousand suspects and none of them matches the fingerprint. Then they finally find this one guy who matches the fingerprint and then they have good reason to conclude that person was the murderer.

Similarly, it does not matter how many religions that claim to have the truth, what matters is what matches up to the evidence. All you have said is that there is a long diversity of suspects, but that doesn't make it logical to conclude "Well since there are SOOO many people the police suspect, then none of them did it" You still got to show that they are wrong somehow.

"on the other hand, the scientific inquiry of the world has led to so many things, so much knowledge gained, and not a single hint pointing at a creator. "

On the contrary, science does point to the hint of a creator. The mere fact that the universe had a beginning hints to a cause, since something that begins to exist cannot come out of nothing.

Look at the Kalam Cosmological Argument: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CulBuMCLg0

Teleological argument: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yt7hvgFuNg

The Ontological reason for believing in God: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQPRqHZRP68

But also very deep thought, why does the Universe exist at all? Argument from contingency goes like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2ULF5WixMM

Once you have gotten to the conclusion that God exists the only question left is, which God? well it's only one monotheistic god from these arguments. The question then becomes, has this god, or creator if you don't like the name god, revealed himself in any of the world religions? I'd argue that he has, in Jesus Christ, proving that the God of Israel, Jakob, Isak and Abraham is the true and only God and that he approved of Jesus of Nazereth's teachings.

Events that are agreed by most NT historians concerning Jesus:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC9R_7qRUno
User avatar #152 - dmagen (06/21/2014) [-]
it's more like a 1000 people came to the police to claim they murdered a man nobody has ever seen or heard of, with no compliant ever heard of a "missing man".

it does matter because a religious point of view is not a unique one, it has nothing special that makes it worth a decent consideration.
going with that example, after the police starts to see that 10, 12, and then 20 people "evidence" is completely made up, they decide that continuing investigating that case is a waste of man power.

on the contrary, until a century ago we thought physics is deterministic in nature and now every aspect of it has turned around to suggest an inherently unpredictable universe on the miniature scale.
(just on a note, you should read that article it really blows your mind nautil.us/issue/9/time/in-search-of-times-origin )

I can not say for certain that anything that exists must have a cause, because even time itself may not be a fundamental part of the universe, but let's assume it does hold true.
there are two options either that beginning itself, as ungraspable as it was, was a "natural" process, or that an imaginably sophisticated being spontaneously came to being, himself without a beginning, only to create an unlimited universe so that he could choose a tiny speck of dust out and from that a tiny group from one species to worship him because apparently he's got confidence issues and needs to be remembered how awesome he is.

why does the universe exist? we don't know... but that doesn't mean you can fill that gap with any argument you like and call it true.
User avatar #153 - finni (07/02/2014) [-]
Well the arguments I presented does make it very unique.
The point of my analogy is that even if there have been countless of religions claiming their gods to be the true one and all of them wrong, does not mean that my god has to be the same. The evidence have ruled out all the other gods, but it does not mean that God has to be ruled out. It's all about the evidence.

I presented to you the fine-tuning argument, kalam cosmological argument, ontological argument, argument from contingency. All of these arguments points to a Creator of the universe.
#112 - Love that anime 06/20/2014 on Poor Rikka 0
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#147 - Maybe some of the Old Testaments are not literally true, but a…  [+] (6 new replies) 06/20/2014 on finni's profile 0
User avatar #148 - dmagen (06/20/2014) [-]
finni I don't want to argue with you about religion.
all the stuff you said in your comment are completely wrong, but I don't want to argue with people about faith.
User avatar #149 - finni (06/20/2014) [-]
We can still discuss these things without them being emotional or heat-tempered.

When you exist with a comment saying that everything I just said is completely wrong I feel the need to respond because I am very certain I am not completely wrong in everything I just said.

We don't need it to be emotional, but we should still be perfectly able to discuss these issues like civil people without name calling or anything like that. If you are afraid of offending me than don't worry, I've gone all my life with hearing basically insults at my faith.
User avatar #150 - dmagen (06/20/2014) [-]
yeah but I don't like talking about it...
but if you insist,
so first of all the only parts that old testament got right was stuff about historic events that happened to the old Jewish kingdom, and even then it's filled with a lot of a lot of divine interpretation that was made up afterward to justify exactly what went wrong.

secondly, I believe that there are no good reason believing in a god.
just look at the evidence. countless religions, all claiming to have the right god/gods/deities, all obviously impacted by the culture the believers lived in, and if survived long enough change and accommodate to the changing culture. all based on their own stories that "prove" they are right, no matter how improbable those stories are to ever have happened.

on the other hand, the scientific inquiry of the world has led to so many things, so much knowledge gained, and not a single hint pointing at a creator.

science seeks evidence and later build itself upon those to be as close to the truth as possible. not so is religion which depicts the truth and then seeks evidence to verify it later, ignoring any counter evidence as bogus or interpreting it in a highly illogical manner to fit the "truth".

because of that, religion can only ever exist behind the gaps of knowledge science has.
first god was in the sky, then he was in space, and now he's god knows where (pun intended).
first god created the earth, then god created the entire solar system, and now god created the big bang or something (I have no idea what stories people tell themselves).

don't say "you don't know why A is, so it's possible that it's because of B and you can't prove otherwise"
say "you and I don't know what A is, but Iv'e got a proposition B to explain it, what do you think about it? can we verify it? if not do you perhaps have better ideas?"

also I agree that the existence of a god is not illogical in and of itself, but the religious depiction of him is ludicrous.
User avatar #151 - finni (06/20/2014) [-]
"just look at the evidence. countless religions, all claiming to have the right god/gods/deities, all obviously impacted by the culture the believers lived in, and if survived long enough change and accommodate to the changing culture. all based on their own stories that "prove" they are right, no matter how improbable those stories are to ever have happened. "

If there is a murder and the police is to investigate this murder they identify a gun was used. Let's say they bring 100 suspects and none of them matches the fingerprint on the gun. Then let's say they take a thousand suspects and none of them matches the fingerprint. Then they finally find this one guy who matches the fingerprint and then they have good reason to conclude that person was the murderer.

Similarly, it does not matter how many religions that claim to have the truth, what matters is what matches up to the evidence. All you have said is that there is a long diversity of suspects, but that doesn't make it logical to conclude "Well since there are SOOO many people the police suspect, then none of them did it" You still got to show that they are wrong somehow.

"on the other hand, the scientific inquiry of the world has led to so many things, so much knowledge gained, and not a single hint pointing at a creator. "

On the contrary, science does point to the hint of a creator. The mere fact that the universe had a beginning hints to a cause, since something that begins to exist cannot come out of nothing.

Look at the Kalam Cosmological Argument: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CulBuMCLg0

Teleological argument: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yt7hvgFuNg

The Ontological reason for believing in God: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQPRqHZRP68

But also very deep thought, why does the Universe exist at all? Argument from contingency goes like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2ULF5WixMM

Once you have gotten to the conclusion that God exists the only question left is, which God? well it's only one monotheistic god from these arguments. The question then becomes, has this god, or creator if you don't like the name god, revealed himself in any of the world religions? I'd argue that he has, in Jesus Christ, proving that the God of Israel, Jakob, Isak and Abraham is the true and only God and that he approved of Jesus of Nazereth's teachings.

Events that are agreed by most NT historians concerning Jesus:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC9R_7qRUno
User avatar #152 - dmagen (06/21/2014) [-]
it's more like a 1000 people came to the police to claim they murdered a man nobody has ever seen or heard of, with no compliant ever heard of a "missing man".

it does matter because a religious point of view is not a unique one, it has nothing special that makes it worth a decent consideration.
going with that example, after the police starts to see that 10, 12, and then 20 people "evidence" is completely made up, they decide that continuing investigating that case is a waste of man power.

on the contrary, until a century ago we thought physics is deterministic in nature and now every aspect of it has turned around to suggest an inherently unpredictable universe on the miniature scale.
(just on a note, you should read that article it really blows your mind nautil.us/issue/9/time/in-search-of-times-origin )

I can not say for certain that anything that exists must have a cause, because even time itself may not be a fundamental part of the universe, but let's assume it does hold true.
there are two options either that beginning itself, as ungraspable as it was, was a "natural" process, or that an imaginably sophisticated being spontaneously came to being, himself without a beginning, only to create an unlimited universe so that he could choose a tiny speck of dust out and from that a tiny group from one species to worship him because apparently he's got confidence issues and needs to be remembered how awesome he is.

why does the universe exist? we don't know... but that doesn't mean you can fill that gap with any argument you like and call it true.
User avatar #153 - finni (07/02/2014) [-]
Well the arguments I presented does make it very unique.
The point of my analogy is that even if there have been countless of religions claiming their gods to be the true one and all of them wrong, does not mean that my god has to be the same. The evidence have ruled out all the other gods, but it does not mean that God has to be ruled out. It's all about the evidence.

I presented to you the fine-tuning argument, kalam cosmological argument, ontological argument, argument from contingency. All of these arguments points to a Creator of the universe.
#145 - I don't see any reason you have given me for believing Islam i…  [+] (8 new replies) 06/20/2014 on finni's profile 0
User avatar #146 - dmagen (06/20/2014) [-]
as saying that believing in a certain book or not proves any religion validity.
basically I believe in provable concepts.

I believe that what I believe doesn't matter to reality as it only exist in between my ears and does not force reality to do it's bid.

that said, a lot of the old testament was already proved to be false, like the exodus for example.

I acknowledge that any religion can be true, but the chances for that in my opinion are close to zero.
User avatar #147 - finni (06/20/2014) [-]
Maybe some of the Old Testaments are not literally true, but at least one event is. The fact that the universe had a beginning.

There are many good reasons to believe in God, based on arguments and evidence, but there are very few reasons to deny the existence of God. Most reasons I find are often emotional reasons and the problem of evil, but not really that the fact that God exists is anyway illogical.
User avatar #148 - dmagen (06/20/2014) [-]
finni I don't want to argue with you about religion.
all the stuff you said in your comment are completely wrong, but I don't want to argue with people about faith.
User avatar #149 - finni (06/20/2014) [-]
We can still discuss these things without them being emotional or heat-tempered.

When you exist with a comment saying that everything I just said is completely wrong I feel the need to respond because I am very certain I am not completely wrong in everything I just said.

We don't need it to be emotional, but we should still be perfectly able to discuss these issues like civil people without name calling or anything like that. If you are afraid of offending me than don't worry, I've gone all my life with hearing basically insults at my faith.
User avatar #150 - dmagen (06/20/2014) [-]
yeah but I don't like talking about it...
but if you insist,
so first of all the only parts that old testament got right was stuff about historic events that happened to the old Jewish kingdom, and even then it's filled with a lot of a lot of divine interpretation that was made up afterward to justify exactly what went wrong.

secondly, I believe that there are no good reason believing in a god.
just look at the evidence. countless religions, all claiming to have the right god/gods/deities, all obviously impacted by the culture the believers lived in, and if survived long enough change and accommodate to the changing culture. all based on their own stories that "prove" they are right, no matter how improbable those stories are to ever have happened.

on the other hand, the scientific inquiry of the world has led to so many things, so much knowledge gained, and not a single hint pointing at a creator.

science seeks evidence and later build itself upon those to be as close to the truth as possible. not so is religion which depicts the truth and then seeks evidence to verify it later, ignoring any counter evidence as bogus or interpreting it in a highly illogical manner to fit the "truth".

because of that, religion can only ever exist behind the gaps of knowledge science has.
first god was in the sky, then he was in space, and now he's god knows where (pun intended).
first god created the earth, then god created the entire solar system, and now god created the big bang or something (I have no idea what stories people tell themselves).

don't say "you don't know why A is, so it's possible that it's because of B and you can't prove otherwise"
say "you and I don't know what A is, but Iv'e got a proposition B to explain it, what do you think about it? can we verify it? if not do you perhaps have better ideas?"

also I agree that the existence of a god is not illogical in and of itself, but the religious depiction of him is ludicrous.
User avatar #151 - finni (06/20/2014) [-]
"just look at the evidence. countless religions, all claiming to have the right god/gods/deities, all obviously impacted by the culture the believers lived in, and if survived long enough change and accommodate to the changing culture. all based on their own stories that "prove" they are right, no matter how improbable those stories are to ever have happened. "

If there is a murder and the police is to investigate this murder they identify a gun was used. Let's say they bring 100 suspects and none of them matches the fingerprint on the gun. Then let's say they take a thousand suspects and none of them matches the fingerprint. Then they finally find this one guy who matches the fingerprint and then they have good reason to conclude that person was the murderer.

Similarly, it does not matter how many religions that claim to have the truth, what matters is what matches up to the evidence. All you have said is that there is a long diversity of suspects, but that doesn't make it logical to conclude "Well since there are SOOO many people the police suspect, then none of them did it" You still got to show that they are wrong somehow.

"on the other hand, the scientific inquiry of the world has led to so many things, so much knowledge gained, and not a single hint pointing at a creator. "

On the contrary, science does point to the hint of a creator. The mere fact that the universe had a beginning hints to a cause, since something that begins to exist cannot come out of nothing.

Look at the Kalam Cosmological Argument: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CulBuMCLg0

Teleological argument: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yt7hvgFuNg

The Ontological reason for believing in God: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQPRqHZRP68

But also very deep thought, why does the Universe exist at all? Argument from contingency goes like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2ULF5WixMM

Once you have gotten to the conclusion that God exists the only question left is, which God? well it's only one monotheistic god from these arguments. The question then becomes, has this god, or creator if you don't like the name god, revealed himself in any of the world religions? I'd argue that he has, in Jesus Christ, proving that the God of Israel, Jakob, Isak and Abraham is the true and only God and that he approved of Jesus of Nazereth's teachings.

Events that are agreed by most NT historians concerning Jesus:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC9R_7qRUno
User avatar #152 - dmagen (06/21/2014) [-]
it's more like a 1000 people came to the police to claim they murdered a man nobody has ever seen or heard of, with no compliant ever heard of a "missing man".

it does matter because a religious point of view is not a unique one, it has nothing special that makes it worth a decent consideration.
going with that example, after the police starts to see that 10, 12, and then 20 people "evidence" is completely made up, they decide that continuing investigating that case is a waste of man power.

on the contrary, until a century ago we thought physics is deterministic in nature and now every aspect of it has turned around to suggest an inherently unpredictable universe on the miniature scale.
(just on a note, you should read that article it really blows your mind nautil.us/issue/9/time/in-search-of-times-origin )

I can not say for certain that anything that exists must have a cause, because even time itself may not be a fundamental part of the universe, but let's assume it does hold true.
there are two options either that beginning itself, as ungraspable as it was, was a "natural" process, or that an imaginably sophisticated being spontaneously came to being, himself without a beginning, only to create an unlimited universe so that he could choose a tiny speck of dust out and from that a tiny group from one species to worship him because apparently he's got confidence issues and needs to be remembered how awesome he is.

why does the universe exist? we don't know... but that doesn't mean you can fill that gap with any argument you like and call it true.
User avatar #153 - finni (07/02/2014) [-]
Well the arguments I presented does make it very unique.
The point of my analogy is that even if there have been countless of religions claiming their gods to be the true one and all of them wrong, does not mean that my god has to be the same. The evidence have ruled out all the other gods, but it does not mean that God has to be ruled out. It's all about the evidence.

I presented to you the fine-tuning argument, kalam cosmological argument, ontological argument, argument from contingency. All of these arguments points to a Creator of the universe.
#143 - How do you know Christianity isn't true then?  [+] (10 new replies) 06/19/2014 on finni's profile 0
#144 - dmagen (06/19/2014) [-]
well for the same reason I know Islam isn't true.
I don't let books or ideas dictate what is reality.
I acknowledge that full description of reality may be bigger than what we can ever imagine, and that we may never reach a full understanding of it, but I still love it for simply being and try to understand it the best I can using the knowledge that was passed down to me by previous people like me.
#145 - finni (06/20/2014) [-]
I don't see any reason you have given me for believing Islam is true.
All I can grasp is that Islam is written in a Book, and you don't believe all books, well of course you don't, but you have to have reasons for not believing all books, and saying that you don't believe all books does nothing to disprove Islam's validity.

At best, it puts your understanding of truth at a very narrow road, but even if you believe it to be false does not mean it actually is false
User avatar #146 - dmagen (06/20/2014) [-]
as saying that believing in a certain book or not proves any religion validity.
basically I believe in provable concepts.

I believe that what I believe doesn't matter to reality as it only exist in between my ears and does not force reality to do it's bid.

that said, a lot of the old testament was already proved to be false, like the exodus for example.

I acknowledge that any religion can be true, but the chances for that in my opinion are close to zero.
User avatar #147 - finni (06/20/2014) [-]
Maybe some of the Old Testaments are not literally true, but at least one event is. The fact that the universe had a beginning.

There are many good reasons to believe in God, based on arguments and evidence, but there are very few reasons to deny the existence of God. Most reasons I find are often emotional reasons and the problem of evil, but not really that the fact that God exists is anyway illogical.
User avatar #148 - dmagen (06/20/2014) [-]
finni I don't want to argue with you about religion.
all the stuff you said in your comment are completely wrong, but I don't want to argue with people about faith.
User avatar #149 - finni (06/20/2014) [-]
We can still discuss these things without them being emotional or heat-tempered.

When you exist with a comment saying that everything I just said is completely wrong I feel the need to respond because I am very certain I am not completely wrong in everything I just said.

We don't need it to be emotional, but we should still be perfectly able to discuss these issues like civil people without name calling or anything like that. If you are afraid of offending me than don't worry, I've gone all my life with hearing basically insults at my faith.
User avatar #150 - dmagen (06/20/2014) [-]
yeah but I don't like talking about it...
but if you insist,
so first of all the only parts that old testament got right was stuff about historic events that happened to the old Jewish kingdom, and even then it's filled with a lot of a lot of divine interpretation that was made up afterward to justify exactly what went wrong.

secondly, I believe that there are no good reason believing in a god.
just look at the evidence. countless religions, all claiming to have the right god/gods/deities, all obviously impacted by the culture the believers lived in, and if survived long enough change and accommodate to the changing culture. all based on their own stories that "prove" they are right, no matter how improbable those stories are to ever have happened.

on the other hand, the scientific inquiry of the world has led to so many things, so much knowledge gained, and not a single hint pointing at a creator.

science seeks evidence and later build itself upon those to be as close to the truth as possible. not so is religion which depicts the truth and then seeks evidence to verify it later, ignoring any counter evidence as bogus or interpreting it in a highly illogical manner to fit the "truth".

because of that, religion can only ever exist behind the gaps of knowledge science has.
first god was in the sky, then he was in space, and now he's god knows where (pun intended).
first god created the earth, then god created the entire solar system, and now god created the big bang or something (I have no idea what stories people tell themselves).

don't say "you don't know why A is, so it's possible that it's because of B and you can't prove otherwise"
say "you and I don't know what A is, but Iv'e got a proposition B to explain it, what do you think about it? can we verify it? if not do you perhaps have better ideas?"

also I agree that the existence of a god is not illogical in and of itself, but the religious depiction of him is ludicrous.
User avatar #151 - finni (06/20/2014) [-]
"just look at the evidence. countless religions, all claiming to have the right god/gods/deities, all obviously impacted by the culture the believers lived in, and if survived long enough change and accommodate to the changing culture. all based on their own stories that "prove" they are right, no matter how improbable those stories are to ever have happened. "

If there is a murder and the police is to investigate this murder they identify a gun was used. Let's say they bring 100 suspects and none of them matches the fingerprint on the gun. Then let's say they take a thousand suspects and none of them matches the fingerprint. Then they finally find this one guy who matches the fingerprint and then they have good reason to conclude that person was the murderer.

Similarly, it does not matter how many religions that claim to have the truth, what matters is what matches up to the evidence. All you have said is that there is a long diversity of suspects, but that doesn't make it logical to conclude "Well since there are SOOO many people the police suspect, then none of them did it" You still got to show that they are wrong somehow.

"on the other hand, the scientific inquiry of the world has led to so many things, so much knowledge gained, and not a single hint pointing at a creator. "

On the contrary, science does point to the hint of a creator. The mere fact that the universe had a beginning hints to a cause, since something that begins to exist cannot come out of nothing.

Look at the Kalam Cosmological Argument: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CulBuMCLg0

Teleological argument: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yt7hvgFuNg

The Ontological reason for believing in God: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQPRqHZRP68

But also very deep thought, why does the Universe exist at all? Argument from contingency goes like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2ULF5WixMM

Once you have gotten to the conclusion that God exists the only question left is, which God? well it's only one monotheistic god from these arguments. The question then becomes, has this god, or creator if you don't like the name god, revealed himself in any of the world religions? I'd argue that he has, in Jesus Christ, proving that the God of Israel, Jakob, Isak and Abraham is the true and only God and that he approved of Jesus of Nazereth's teachings.

Events that are agreed by most NT historians concerning Jesus:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC9R_7qRUno
User avatar #152 - dmagen (06/21/2014) [-]
it's more like a 1000 people came to the police to claim they murdered a man nobody has ever seen or heard of, with no compliant ever heard of a "missing man".

it does matter because a religious point of view is not a unique one, it has nothing special that makes it worth a decent consideration.
going with that example, after the police starts to see that 10, 12, and then 20 people "evidence" is completely made up, they decide that continuing investigating that case is a waste of man power.

on the contrary, until a century ago we thought physics is deterministic in nature and now every aspect of it has turned around to suggest an inherently unpredictable universe on the miniature scale.
(just on a note, you should read that article it really blows your mind nautil.us/issue/9/time/in-search-of-times-origin )

I can not say for certain that anything that exists must have a cause, because even time itself may not be a fundamental part of the universe, but let's assume it does hold true.
there are two options either that beginning itself, as ungraspable as it was, was a "natural" process, or that an imaginably sophisticated being spontaneously came to being, himself without a beginning, only to create an unlimited universe so that he could choose a tiny speck of dust out and from that a tiny group from one species to worship him because apparently he's got confidence issues and needs to be remembered how awesome he is.

why does the universe exist? we don't know... but that doesn't mean you can fill that gap with any argument you like and call it true.
User avatar #153 - finni (07/02/2014) [-]
Well the arguments I presented does make it very unique.
The point of my analogy is that even if there have been countless of religions claiming their gods to be the true one and all of them wrong, does not mean that my god has to be the same. The evidence have ruled out all the other gods, but it does not mean that God has to be ruled out. It's all about the evidence.

I presented to you the fine-tuning argument, kalam cosmological argument, ontological argument, argument from contingency. All of these arguments points to a Creator of the universe.

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User avatar #122 - bluzzerstream ONLINE (06/15/2014) [-]
How's it goin'?
#123 to #122 - finni (06/16/2014) [-]
I just got back from Japan and I am extrememly mixed in my feelings.

I want to be in Japan, but also Norway, and I have no idea what I really want.
You?
User avatar #124 to #123 - bluzzerstream ONLINE (06/16/2014) [-]
I would very much rather be in japan than here too but on the other hand I'm happy I'm in sweden right now. Growing up here isn't all to bad. Were you in Tokyo? And did you visit a cat café?

My brother's soon going back to norway so I'll be having both my borther and sister in Norway in just a week!
User avatar #125 to #124 - finni (06/16/2014) [-]
Yeah it was Tokyo. But I've been there for a year so it's nice to be back home
User avatar #126 to #125 - bluzzerstream ONLINE (06/16/2014) [-]
Oh, I see. How did you get there? For education?
User avatar #127 to #126 - finni (06/16/2014) [-]
Exactly.
User avatar #128 to #127 - bluzzerstream ONLINE (06/16/2014) [-]
I envy you, sounds nice.
User avatar #129 to #128 - finni (06/16/2014) [-]
It was.
#132 to #129 - dmagen (06/16/2014) [-]
finni you were in Japan this entire time?!   
how was it? and what did you learn there?   
   
bluzzerstream also wants to go to Japan, I think you could really help him by giving him a hindsight about what to expect there!   
   
this.. this is destiny!   
(gif sorta related because akiho is so energetic and full of energy and charisma and so should you two)
finni you were in Japan this entire time?!
how was it? and what did you learn there?

bluzzerstream also wants to go to Japan, I think you could really help him by giving him a hindsight about what to expect there!

this.. this is destiny!
(gif sorta related because akiho is so energetic and full of energy and charisma and so should you two)
#134 to #132 - bluzzerstream ONLINE (06/16/2014) [-]
I know, destiny!
I know, destiny!
#136 to #134 - dmagen (06/16/2014) [-]
either that, or every sane Scandinavian wants to go to Japan for some reason
either that, or every sane Scandinavian wants to go to Japan for some reason
User avatar #138 to #136 - bluzzerstream ONLINE (06/16/2014) [-]
And god knows there aren't many sane ones
User avatar #133 to #132 - finni (06/16/2014) [-]
It was great! I learned a lot of Japanese and a lot of Japanese customs and so on! Fantastic place
#135 to #133 - dmagen (06/16/2014) [-]
I want to go   
I want to go   
I want to go   
I want to go
I want to go
I want to go
I want to go
I want to go
User avatar #120 - dmagen (06/11/2014) [-]
I can't remember if I ever told you about this guy or not
www.youtube.com/channel/UCWOkEnBl5TO4SCLfSlosjgg
I just remembered that his videos were where I first place I ever heard multiculturalism in.
I think you will agree with about 99% of his ideas, and so do I.
User avatar #121 to #120 - finni (06/11/2014) [-]
Of course I remember Pat Condell. He's the guy that got me started on supporting Israel. When he first started his channel he was just like all the New Atheists on the internet, but then he had a change into the political sphere were he made Islam and the politics of Islam at the centre of his focus. Now he says that as long as religion keeps it's way out of politics, they practice whatever nonesense they'd like.

He still criticises religion, though. He's an interesting fellow, not like most Atheists. He may act like one, but he's really something different, so I have mixed feelings about him. Politically I agree about 99% with him.
User avatar #130 to #121 - dmagen (06/16/2014) [-]
he's not trying to come up with reason to support something he doesn't see fit in this world, no matter how much it bothers him to acknowledge that something is wrong.

he has his values and he judges the hideous practices of Islam with them, without giving a damn what they might feel about it.

I really do love this guy because he seeks truth and justice not convenience.
User avatar #131 to #130 - finni (06/16/2014) [-]
Yeah in most cases, but I remember I saw one of his videos were he criticises Christianity, just to see what his critique was and it was really bad and disappointing.
While on his political videos uses lots of evidence and sources, for the video I saw he only used one, and it was wikipedia. I read the page and most of the page said nothing about what he had talked about. I think he has seen too much of the da vinci code and Zeitgeist movie.
User avatar #137 to #131 - dmagen (06/16/2014) [-]
haven't seen the video where he criticizes Christianity, but even if it has it's flows, overall it's a pretty good religion.
User avatar #139 to #137 - finni (06/18/2014) [-]
It is. You should try it out sometime ;)
User avatar #140 to #139 - dmagen (06/18/2014) [-]
haha no thanks, even though I don't hate Christianity, I still think it is as right as every other religion, including the one that I once belonged to Judaism.
#141 to #140 - finni (06/18/2014) [-]
You know, all religions can't be true. They can all be wrong, but not true
#142 to #141 - dmagen (06/19/2014) [-]
yeah that's what I meant
#143 to #142 - finni (06/19/2014) [-]
How do you know Christianity isn't true then?
#144 to #143 - dmagen (06/19/2014) [-]
well for the same reason I know Islam isn't true.
I don't let books or ideas dictate what is reality.
I acknowledge that full description of reality may be bigger than what we can ever imagine, and that we may never reach a full understanding of it, but I still love it for simply being and try to understand it the best I can using the knowledge that was passed down to me by previous people like me.
#145 to #144 - finni (06/20/2014) [-]
I don't see any reason you have given me for believing Islam is true.
All I can grasp is that Islam is written in a Book, and you don't believe all books, well of course you don't, but you have to have reasons for not believing all books, and saying that you don't believe all books does nothing to disprove Islam's validity.

At best, it puts your understanding of truth at a very narrow road, but even if you believe it to be false does not mean it actually is false
User avatar #146 to #145 - dmagen (06/20/2014) [-]
as saying that believing in a certain book or not proves any religion validity.
basically I believe in provable concepts.

I believe that what I believe doesn't matter to reality as it only exist in between my ears and does not force reality to do it's bid.

that said, a lot of the old testament was already proved to be false, like the exodus for example.

I acknowledge that any religion can be true, but the chances for that in my opinion are close to zero.
User avatar #147 to #146 - finni (06/20/2014) [-]
Maybe some of the Old Testaments are not literally true, but at least one event is. The fact that the universe had a beginning.

There are many good reasons to believe in God, based on arguments and evidence, but there are very few reasons to deny the existence of God. Most reasons I find are often emotional reasons and the problem of evil, but not really that the fact that God exists is anyway illogical.
User avatar #148 to #147 - dmagen (06/20/2014) [-]
finni I don't want to argue with you about religion.
all the stuff you said in your comment are completely wrong, but I don't want to argue with people about faith.
User avatar #149 to #148 - finni (06/20/2014) [-]
We can still discuss these things without them being emotional or heat-tempered.

When you exist with a comment saying that everything I just said is completely wrong I feel the need to respond because I am very certain I am not completely wrong in everything I just said.

We don't need it to be emotional, but we should still be perfectly able to discuss these issues like civil people without name calling or anything like that. If you are afraid of offending me than don't worry, I've gone all my life with hearing basically insults at my faith.
User avatar #150 to #149 - dmagen (06/20/2014) [-]
yeah but I don't like talking about it...
but if you insist,
so first of all the only parts that old testament got right was stuff about historic events that happened to the old Jewish kingdom, and even then it's filled with a lot of a lot of divine interpretation that was made up afterward to justify exactly what went wrong.

secondly, I believe that there are no good reason believing in a god.
just look at the evidence. countless religions, all claiming to have the right god/gods/deities, all obviously impacted by the culture the believers lived in, and if survived long enough change and accommodate to the changing culture. all based on their own stories that "prove" they are right, no matter how improbable those stories are to ever have happened.

on the other hand, the scientific inquiry of the world has led to so many things, so much knowledge gained, and not a single hint pointing at a creator.

science seeks evidence and later build itself upon those to be as close to the truth as possible. not so is religion which depicts the truth and then seeks evidence to verify it later, ignoring any counter evidence as bogus or interpreting it in a highly illogical manner to fit the "truth".

because of that, religion can only ever exist behind the gaps of knowledge science has.
first god was in the sky, then he was in space, and now he's god knows where (pun intended).
first god created the earth, then god created the entire solar system, and now god created the big bang or something (I have no idea what stories people tell themselves).

don't say "you don't know why A is, so it's possible that it's because of B and you can't prove otherwise"
say "you and I don't know what A is, but Iv'e got a proposition B to explain it, what do you think about it? can we verify it? if not do you perhaps have better ideas?"

also I agree that the existence of a god is not illogical in and of itself, but the religious depiction of him is ludicrous.
User avatar #151 to #150 - finni (06/20/2014) [-]
"just look at the evidence. countless religions, all claiming to have the right god/gods/deities, all obviously impacted by the culture the believers lived in, and if survived long enough change and accommodate to the changing culture. all based on their own stories that "prove" they are right, no matter how improbable those stories are to ever have happened. "

If there is a murder and the police is to investigate this murder they identify a gun was used. Let's say they bring 100 suspects and none of them matches the fingerprint on the gun. Then let's say they take a thousand suspects and none of them matches the fingerprint. Then they finally find this one guy who matches the fingerprint and then they have good reason to conclude that person was the murderer.

Similarly, it does not matter how many religions that claim to have the truth, what matters is what matches up to the evidence. All you have said is that there is a long diversity of suspects, but that doesn't make it logical to conclude "Well since there are SOOO many people the police suspect, then none of them did it" You still got to show that they are wrong somehow.

"on the other hand, the scientific inquiry of the world has led to so many things, so much knowledge gained, and not a single hint pointing at a creator. "

On the contrary, science does point to the hint of a creator. The mere fact that the universe had a beginning hints to a cause, since something that begins to exist cannot come out of nothing.

Look at the Kalam Cosmological Argument: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CulBuMCLg0

Teleological argument: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yt7hvgFuNg

The Ontological reason for believing in God: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQPRqHZRP68

But also very deep thought, why does the Universe exist at all? Argument from contingency goes like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2ULF5WixMM

Once you have gotten to the conclusion that God exists the only question left is, which God? well it's only one monotheistic god from these arguments. The question then becomes, has this god, or creator if you don't like the name god, revealed himself in any of the world religions? I'd argue that he has, in Jesus Christ, proving that the God of Israel, Jakob, Isak and Abraham is the true and only God and that he approved of Jesus of Nazereth's teachings.

Events that are agreed by most NT historians concerning Jesus:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC9R_7qRUno
User avatar #152 to #151 - dmagen (06/21/2014) [-]
it's more like a 1000 people came to the police to claim they murdered a man nobody has ever seen or heard of, with no compliant ever heard of a "missing man".

it does matter because a religious point of view is not a unique one, it has nothing special that makes it worth a decent consideration.
going with that example, after the police starts to see that 10, 12, and then 20 people "evidence" is completely made up, they decide that continuing investigating that case is a waste of man power.

on the contrary, until a century ago we thought physics is deterministic in nature and now every aspect of it has turned around to suggest an inherently unpredictable universe on the miniature scale.
(just on a note, you should read that article it really blows your mind nautil.us/issue/9/time/in-search-of-times-origin )

I can not say for certain that anything that exists must have a cause, because even time itself may not be a fundamental part of the universe, but let's assume it does hold true.
there are two options either that beginning itself, as ungraspable as it was, was a "natural" process, or that an imaginably sophisticated being spontaneously came to being, himself without a beginning, only to create an unlimited universe so that he could choose a tiny speck of dust out and from that a tiny group from one species to worship him because apparently he's got confidence issues and needs to be remembered how awesome he is.

why does the universe exist? we don't know... but that doesn't mean you can fill that gap with any argument you like and call it true.
User avatar #153 to #152 - finni (07/02/2014) [-]
Well the arguments I presented does make it very unique.
The point of my analogy is that even if there have been countless of religions claiming their gods to be the true one and all of them wrong, does not mean that my god has to be the same. The evidence have ruled out all the other gods, but it does not mean that God has to be ruled out. It's all about the evidence.

I presented to you the fine-tuning argument, kalam cosmological argument, ontological argument, argument from contingency. All of these arguments points to a Creator of the universe.
User avatar #119 - youmotherfather (06/05/2014) [-]
what exactly do you need man?
User avatar #116 to #115 - finni (07/21/2013) [-]
Yeah, I read about that one. It is horrible and it's a disgrace. She's not even a citizen of that country! The Norwegian government should really fix this up, but then again, being the multicultural lovers they are, they have to respect the laws in that country, do they not? It should be simple! The Norwegian Government shouldn't hide behind human rights and things like that, they should DEMAND them to release her because she's not a citizen of that country!

Overall, this just goes to show how ****** up the religion of Islam is. Hell, even medieval Europe was better than that **** ! She's on business there! What kind of stupid country would imprison a foreigner who is doing business in their country?!

But I guess it's not much we can do about it, since it's their country and every culture is equal, aren't they?
User avatar #117 to #116 - dmagen (07/21/2013) [-]
yeah, they are crazy.
they don't seem to get the basic idea that multiculturalism should mean that as long as your actions do not interfere with my life or anyone else's in a way the defines basic democratic human rights, you can do what you want. but when they do start interfering, be it by woman right's, religious rights, the right to live without fearing that crazy sand ******* will blow me up right, then I will fight with all I've got against that so called "culture".
User avatar #96 to #95 - poncakeforlife (07/09/2013) [-]
So how's it going?
#97 to #96 - finni (07/09/2013) [-]
Nice. I'm writing a fan fiction about THe Elder Scrolls five after math and a nother fantasy book. : )
User avatar #98 to #97 - poncakeforlife (07/09/2013) [-]
Awesome, The Elder Scrolls is one of my most favorite game series. I plan on replaying Morrowind soon.
User avatar #99 to #98 - finni (07/09/2013) [-]
Yeah, I would also want to play morrowind, but I don't think I could stand the graphics since they've improved so much since back then
User avatar #100 to #99 - poncakeforlife (07/09/2013) [-]
I know, i played it after i finished Skyrim, with Oblivion being the first TES game i played. At first the game is difficult to get into since the game is huge in the amount of difference it has from Skyrim. You can't fast travel, there are no quest markers and there are lots of bugs in it. But the game makes up for that by having a very good atmosphere, soundtrack, having more weapons and being a lot more surprising than it's successors.

But most people who played Skyrim before Morrowind will find it difficult to get into.
User avatar #103 to #102 - poncakeforlife (07/09/2013) [-]
It's looking good so far. You should send me a link once you are finished with the second chapter so i can review it further.
#105 to #103 - finni (07/09/2013) [-]
Okay, here's part 2. It's slightly longer www.fanfiction.net/s/9461417/2/Elder-Scrolls-Rise-of-the-Kingdom-of-Skyrim
I'll give you a hint on who it's about
User avatar #106 to #105 - poncakeforlife (07/10/2013) [-]
Good job, it's getting better. I also like your style of writing.
User avatar #107 to #106 - finni (07/10/2013) [-]
Thanks a lot

And what do you mean "style of writing"?
User avatar #108 to #107 - poncakeforlife (07/10/2013) [-]
Pretty much the way that you write and present the story.
#109 to #108 - finni (07/10/2013) [-]
Oh. Like for example how I from the first chapter wrote from Galmar's perspective and in the second chapter wrote from Serana's perspective?
User avatar #110 to #109 - poncakeforlife (07/10/2013) [-]
It's part of what I mean. What i am mostly referring to is, that you are carefully constructing the story and not jumping to conclusions, like most people would when writing a story.
#111 to #110 - finni (07/10/2013) [-]
Ah, I see. So how I like build up the story and for example go through for example Serana's mind and thinking back and events that have happened, instead of being like "A guy got at the door and gave a letter to Serana".

Yeah, I get much of my inspiration from A Song Of Ice And Fire. The author is really good at going through the character's minds and thinking back to events that have happened before and I draw some inspiration from his style of writing.

But since this is Elder Scrolls and not A Song Of Ice And Fire, I won't be taking too much inspiration from the author's books
User avatar #112 to #111 - poncakeforlife (07/10/2013) [-]
Exactly, I still have to read the books, i have heard a lot of them and from people about how good the books are.
#113 to #112 - finni (07/10/2013) [-]
They are quite good, but I just keep reading hoping that Tony of House Stark will show up and kill all the Lannisters
User avatar #114 to #113 - finni (07/10/2013) [-]
What am I saying, I mean they are great! I use the word "quite" too much -_-
User avatar #104 to #103 - finni (07/09/2013) [-]
I already on it
User avatar #101 to #100 - finni (07/09/2013) [-]
Oblivion was my first Elder Scrolls game as well. I stopped looking at other races in the character development when I found Nords.
#92 - xxxsonic fanxxx (07/02/2013) [-]
**** you finni
User avatar #86 - dmagen (05/10/2013) [-]
soooo what's up? :D
User avatar #87 to #86 - finni (05/10/2013) [-]
The sky.

Nah, not much. I've been having a lot of exams lately. Soon it's gonna be summer vacation :D
User avatar #88 to #87 - dmagen (05/10/2013) [-]
yeah a vacation for you, i've got army stuff :(
at least I got the week off
User avatar #89 to #88 - finni (05/10/2013) [-]
Well that's nice :)

How is the Israeli army BTW?
User avatar #90 to #89 - dmagen (05/10/2013) [-]
hmm can't really say because I haven't experienced it yet.
I mean I did but not the real thing, I was in training until yesterday.
because I'm not a fighter I was on the easiest one possible that only lasts a month, 02.
for example the people you see movies about in hollywood are analogous to the ones who do 05 or 07 which lasts for half a year or more.
I will do something technical in the air force not sure what, probably something in a office.
User avatar #91 to #90 - finni (05/10/2013) [-]
I see.
#83 - xxxsonic fanxxx (04/29/2013) [-]
Get a life nerd.
User avatar #75 - dmagen (04/12/2013) [-]
my status was deleted automatically so I didn't see what you wrote
User avatar #76 to #75 - finni (04/12/2013) [-]
I don't remember what you wrote :S
User avatar #77 to #76 - dmagen (04/12/2013) [-]
that the army was hell
User avatar #78 to #77 - finni (04/12/2013) [-]
Oh yeah, I wondered if you didn't like it
User avatar #79 to #78 - dmagen (04/12/2013) [-]
XD I don't think anyone ever used hell as a n example for something he likes
btw check out my new status :D
User avatar #80 to #79 - finni (04/12/2013) [-]
Okay.

BTW, can you tell me something about Israel and Syria? I mean I don't know a lot about the current **** there so I wonder what's Israel view on the matter is.
User avatar #81 to #80 - dmagen (04/12/2013) [-]
hmm nothing special.
maybe a bit more skeptical as to the motive of religious groups there.
I just got home 2 hours ago and I want to catch up to a lot of things I missed this week (when I have time to be on my iphone and the internet I have to use it to do stuff and sleep so I'm not on the internet much)
User avatar #82 to #81 - dmagen (04/12/2013) [-]
so I'll talk to you later
#74 - finni (03/31/2013) [-]
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User avatar #59 - dmagen (03/21/2013) [-]
I liked the last picture more :(
User avatar #60 to #59 - finni (03/21/2013) [-]
Why? It's an old stupid rageface o_O
User avatar #61 to #60 - dmagen (03/21/2013) [-]
yeah, but it's kinda better than this one... :P
also I got used to associate it with you
User avatar #62 to #61 - finni (03/21/2013) [-]
Don't you like Sir. Nils Olav? He's the greatest knight in all of Norway!
User avatar #63 to #62 - dmagen (03/21/2013) [-]
that's a penguin...
User avatar #64 to #63 - finni (03/21/2013) [-]
It's a knight penguin! No, not only a knight penguin, it's THE Knight Penguin Of Norway!!!
User avatar #65 to #64 - dmagen (03/21/2013) [-]
:P k
hmm I just looked at your favorites and entered a random post
this one:
www.funnyjunk.com/funny_gifs/4457343/Asians/
and I was like "wait I know those girls, those are AKB48 !"
and it said "AKB48"
I just started watching an anime which is called AKB0048 and it's songs and names are from this group. (btw they have really awesome songs like Boku Dake No Value, Hoshi no mukougawa, and Ue Kara Mariko (and those are just once I now from the anime and bothered looking up!)
User avatar #67 to #65 - finni (03/21/2013) [-]
BTW, this video might clear things up a little
User avatar #69 to #68 - dmagen (03/21/2013) [-]
why
User avatar #70 to #69 - finni (03/21/2013) [-]
I forget things <:/
User avatar #71 to #70 - dmagen (03/21/2013) [-]
no.
why the video happened
#72 to #71 - finni (03/21/2013) [-]
Because we can!
User avatar #73 to #72 - dmagen (03/21/2013) [-]
oh well
#66 to #65 - finni (03/21/2013) [-]
Oh, I just thought the girls were cute so I saved it
User avatar #58 - dmagen (02/17/2013) [-]
in the message I sent you I asked you if close minded is the past word for close mind.
I meant to say adjective not past sorry :P
User avatar #52 - dmagen (01/30/2013) [-]
(didn't want to send you another message :P)
I don't know if it's because I'm notcing it more, but lately I hear about Norway a LOT more from seemingy random places
for example
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHp3c9ziIq0
User avatar #54 to #53 - dmagen (01/30/2013) [-]
you made me giggle XD
#55 to #54 - finni (01/30/2013) [-]
That's us Norwegians :)
That's us Norwegians :)
User avatar #56 to #55 - dmagen (01/30/2013) [-]
btw you told me to tell you how kawata shoujo is.
hmm I love the music, but up until the part I am in (which is like 3 hours of reading with about 5 decisions) it's mostly random talk. maybe it will change from now on.
#57 to #56 - finni (01/30/2013) [-]
Nice. Keep it going
User avatar #48 - dmagen (01/06/2013) [-]
this site is so confusing :c
User avatar #49 to #48 - finni (01/06/2013) [-]
Maybe at first. You'll get used to it.
Your comment, sir: #8651508

Well let me walk you through. In the forums there different kind of sections. The one I mostly use are Open Chat and Role Playing.

Whenever you comment the page will reset and unless you want your comment to appear twice, you should click on your username. You will then get back to your profile. If you get a response, you'll see up in the corner beside your username "1 Mention" You can then click there and you'll see who mentioned you and which section.

Forums are displayed newest to oldest.

At the comics section you can choose from which specific country you want to see appear in a comic. Denmark appears in most, Sweden second most and Norway Third most.

When you get on the home page, you'll see the newest comic. It will say that you're logged out, but once you hit "log in", you'll automatically be logged in, and not needing to type your password. When at "Home" you won't see many (or any) comments, before you click "Show Comments" at the end of the comic.

You can also post Fan Art at the Fan Art section.

That's basically it. Tell me if you need anything else :)
User avatar #50 to #49 - dmagen (01/06/2013) [-]
thanks :D
I figured out the
"
Whenever you comment the page will reset and unless you want your comment to appear twice, you should click on your username. You will then get back to your profile. If you get a response, you'll see up in the corner beside your username "1 Mention" You can then click there and you'll see who mentioned you and which section.

Forums are displayed newest to oldest.
"
alone, but I still didn't try to read any comic, so when I will, I will use the other stuff you wrote.
and what I meant, was that I thought that it was displayed from oldest to newest, so I checked the last page, and didn't even consider that it was on the first page.(I know you need to refresh to see what you wrote on most sites)
User avatar #51 to #50 - finni (01/07/2013) [-]
Good. Seems like you're good to go then :)
User avatar #30 - dmagen (12/29/2012) [-]
btw if you want this guy is awesome
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIesXORjBps
User avatar #31 to #30 - dmagen (12/29/2012) [-]
oh he is kinda against religion so you might not agree with him at some things, but he is like the atheist version of you XD
User avatar #32 to #31 - finni (12/29/2012) [-]
I love Pat Condell! He is awesome! :D

Yeah, he is against Religion in general, but he supports European culture, even the Christian culture, although he doesn't like Christianity.

I have mixed feelings about him. I want to subscribe, but I don't agree with his views on Christianity (although I agree with some of the criticism of what Christians do) so I don't feel like subscribing to him. Although I do support his views on Islam and Israel (except that he thinks Israel shouldn't be located where it is. I do, because of the connection and history Jews have to the land).

But I do support him more than I disapprove of him, so I like him. He says stuff that nobody else dears to say. He is really brave and I like him. I don't mind him being an atheist, just that he's an anti-theist.

This is what I think is wrong with people when they either say: All Religions are good and support and say the same thing, or when people say that all Religion is bad.
To me, Religions are very different. Christianity and Judaism are probably the most common religions of all time. They support good deeds and love. They believe in man's right to choose to do good, not do good because they're forced to.

Islam supports totalitarianism. They are right and everyone must obey them or convert to their religion. They support goodness towards fellow Muslims however, but against unbelievers, not that much. Especially not the Jews.

Buddaism is about not doing too much of one thing. Don't eat too much, don't do one thing too much. They have good moral, yes, but not like the the Christian-Judaic one.

Religions are different. They might tell good stuff, bad stuff or anything in between, but what they teach and how they teach can be very different .

Anyway, what I am trying to say is that, yes, I do like and support Pat Condell and his fight against Islamic fundamentalism and multi-cultureism, but disagree with his views on religion as a hole.
User avatar #33 to #32 - dmagen (12/29/2012) [-]
yeah me too, kinda.
I think that good people will always find reasons to do good, and evil people will find reason to do bad.
I personally think that religion sometimes can be more dangerous than helpful, but it's wrong to say that religion is the cause.
people are the cause, religion and ideologies is what they use in order to justify their actions to others and convince them that they are right( whether it's for good or for worse).
User avatar #34 to #33 - finni (12/29/2012) [-]
True.
Before I was very PC and thought that Islam was a Religion of peace, believed that there were no such thing as "evil people" only misguided people. A part of me still wants to believe that. Still wanting to believe that Islam is a good Religion and that there are not evil people out there, but unfortunately, that's not the case. There are EVIL persons out there. People that wants horrible things. When I realized that, I wasn't happy, I was sad. I was deeply sad inside me, almost crying, but no matter how much I wanted to stay in my little bubble, I couldn't. It was time for me to wake up.

I today is very critical towards Islam and it's role in society. I am also critical to the Norwegian Christian Democrats. I think that they have become very PC and I don't support their views on Islam. One of it members said on the radio some days after the Muslim riots about the film "innocence of Muslims" that "Religion is rarely or never a source to violence".

The Norwegian Conservative party has also become very PC. They have adopted many of the "green" policies which I view and communists. They also support more immigration, with stricter integration. I support their stricter integration, but disagree with more immigration. Not because I'm racist, but because we have already so many immigrants already. Many illegal and people who are not integrated or assimilated.
User avatar #35 to #34 - dmagen (12/29/2012) [-]
I'm kinda hoping that most of the people that we see as "evil" really are misguided, but I guess that people who are so misguided that they become what we define as evil, do exist.
about the Norwegian immigration:
I absolutely agree.
I think that one of the worst mistakes to make is to create an area that only immigrants live in, is wrong and would lead to a separate more extreme society that resemble the society that those immigrants left. mostly because this will create a poverty area that will bring anger. eventually their children will seek information about their parents countries, and will be exposed to many extreme websites and papers that will give them some dangerous ideology to relay on while being angry on the country that gave them shelter.
so that's I think that no area should be populated mainly by immigrants.
User avatar #37 to #35 - finni (12/29/2012) [-]
Which is already happening. There have been reports and I have even experienced it myself, that many young Muslims say anti-semittic things. Like supporting Hitler for killing Jews and saying that the Qur'an supports killing of Jews (which is unfortunetley true), and they laugh when the teacher tells them about the holocaust. I even had a Muslim I went to class with that said that he wanted to give the Nobel Peace prize to Hitler for killing Jews (which, judging from who have gotten the prize recently, wouldn't have been very unlikely).

The Norwegians don't really like this. A lot opposes Islam and think it's a danger to our society. Norwegians are really proud of their culture. Nobody beats our celebration of our national day, we love celebrating our traditions and we welcome people into our society, but we don't like it when they want us to change because of them. We don't like when they try to take away the Christmas school endings at church, we don't like it when they try to change the "BC"(F.Kr) and "AD"(E.Kr) system to "before and after out time". We're not that Religious. Only 1/3 believe in God, 5% attend to church weekly, but we're still proud of our Christian culture and our Norwegian culture.

The Norwegian synagogue in Oslo have been attacked by potential terrorists (lucky nobody was killed) and several things like that have happened to Jews. Norwegians aren't as naive as many other European nations are. They are actually quite smart and know a lot of things, but when it comes to foreign news, we see the world through a key hole. Only 10% of all news are from around the world an Israel takes up almost all of that little space. And 99% of the time, Israel is seen as the aggressor. There are more reports about Israel than any other conflict in the world, a lot of where the death toll is much higher!
#38 to #37 - dmagen (12/29/2012) [-]
true.
I'm not a genius that could predict what will happen XD, what I said was because what you are describing. anyway, again agree on everything, but this time have nothing to add.
User avatar #39 to #38 - finni (12/29/2012) [-]
Thanks Bro :D
User avatar #40 to #39 - dmagen (12/29/2012) [-]
Iv'e got a spider on my wall -_- damn spiders.
anyway mean it. need to go kill spider before he runs away.
User avatar #42 to #40 - finni (12/29/2012) [-]
Hey, hey. Spiders bring luck, Bro. Unless it's bigger than 5 cm. Then you gotta kill it... with fire!!!
User avatar #43 to #42 - dmagen (12/29/2012) [-]
nah it's a small one, about 2 cm.
the biggest I had ever seen was a tarantula that was in my school when I was in the 4th grade(actually was a few centimeters next to it for half a second).
User avatar #44 to #43 - finni (12/29/2012) [-]
Hehe. At least it's not like in Australia :P
User avatar #45 to #44 - dmagen (12/29/2012) [-]
THANK GOD
User avatar #46 to #45 - finni (12/30/2012) [-]
Hehe. BTW look! Both political and funny :D funnyjunk.com/channel/muslims/Cultural+differences/YmtkGLz/28#28
User avatar #47 to #46 - dmagen (12/30/2012) [-]
XD
User avatar #41 to #40 - dmagen (12/29/2012) [-]
he escaped -_-
User avatar #36 to #35 - dmagen (12/29/2012) [-]
...live in. this is wrong...*
User avatar #25 - futuramafan (11/18/2012) [-]
suomalainen?
#26 to #25 - finni (11/18/2012) [-]
What the **** does that even mean
User avatar #27 to #26 - futuramafan (11/18/2012) [-]
"finn"? your location is scandinavia and your name is finni (I know, finland isnt really part of scandi.)
User avatar #28 to #27 - finni (11/18/2012) [-]
Finni is my nickname. I am Norwegian.
User avatar #14 - trojanmannn (05/25/2012) [-]
my comment rank=trips
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