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|#9 - Why was she not allowed an abortion? [+] (52 new replies)||21 hours ago on brutal||+79|
#124 - Ken M (2 hours ago) [-]
Not sure but after a while you have it you cant go through abortion
#51 - gharshi (6 hours ago) [-]
#132 - angelusprimus (2 hours ago) [-]
Sorry, but when entire nations, and it really isn't just saudi arabia its most of the levant and north africa too, and they all use religion as an reason for it.
And they have religious texts to support them.
Qur'an (2:282) - woman's testimony is worth half a man's. Which means if a woman claims rape and man claims he did not rape her, she is immediately at fault.
For Sunni Muslim there is also Bukhari (5:59:462) Hadith, that says it takes four witnesses for an accusation for rape.
#135 - alfonshister (2 hours ago) [-]
m80 without looking i know that this is from al bawarah, it's in context of lending money to someone, and that you need either two male witnesses or one man and two women, so when one woman forgets it the other can correct her because some women tend to pay more attention to other things, not ALL women . it's NOT about the value of someone's opinion.
and the second one, this thing about 4 witnesses is about infidelity, when a man OR a woman sleep with a woman or a man OUT OF MARRIAGE. the punishment for that only applies when you ahve 4 witnesses.
Rape is a whole other story. Enough proof in any form and the guy / woman get public whiplashes or death sentence.(not sure about the death sentence, that one depends)
as you see, just take a closer look and you see all those things you hear are prejudices. If the governments really cared they would notice. But they are too busy opressing the population and being corrupt. they don't care about rightful laws.
#138 - angelusprimus (2 hours ago) [-]
If you are a muslim and believe that you are a part of a massively tiny minority. Both justice systems of EVERY islamic country IN THE WORLD, and most of the leading islamic scholars today disagree with you.
And when vast majority of the religious leadership, secular authorities AND at very least 9 out of 10 muslim people disagree with you, then your opinion, even if correct, is for all the practical purposes irrelevant.
#141 - angelusprimus (2 hours ago) [-]
But, you see, YOU are interpreting what is in Quran one way, and vast majority of islamic religious leadership who spent their entire lives studying Quran are interpreting it very differently from you.
So who's to say its them who are wrong and you are right? You?
#152 - angelusprimus (1 hour ago) [-]
Don't get me wrong, I don't think Islam is any worse than any other religion in the world (mine included), I just don't trust any religion with having secular power.
I don't think laws of religion have any place in governing people's secular lives. Especially not of people who do not belong to that religion. If someone willingly puts themselves to religious court, that is their choice, but no one should be forced in front of a court and tried by laws of a religion.
Take islam out of politics and you have a great religion. As long as its used to govern I will be very skeptical about it.
Because religion has a problem of interpretation. The way you interpret Islam, in a humanist and open way, its fine, but that's NOT the only interpretation. And that's a huge problem when people's lives are at stake.
#164 - angelusprimus (17 minutes ago) [-]
Yeah I should have stopped when I said I will.
I keep giving sources you keep saying "out of context" and "its not what they meant" without supplying any evidence its out of context or its not exactly how VAST MAJORITY of Islamic scholars see it, which is opposite of how you claim it is.
So I'm done talking to you, I'm just going to say this.
Vast majority of islamic scholars disagree with you, vast majority of muslim disagrees with you. Until that changes I will say that all those people outvote you and they are right and you are wrong.
#165 - alfonshister (21 seconds ago) [-]
>keep giving sources.
You said you have no rights and then added some verses that talk about what to do in WAR. as long as we live in a peaceful society under a country's law this doesn't apply. Why should it. you even ignore that under the prohpet himself there were religious minorites living in peace, I should have noted that earier.
>Vast majority of islamic scholars disagree with you, vast majority of muslim disagrees with you
m8, when you take an aya out of context all i can do is tell you to read what it is about. don't act surprised. Just because it happens again and again doesn't mean you're suddenöy right.
And all i said were quotations from the Quran and you tell me "people disagree with you" again and again.
where are your correct quotations? As long as there is a logical counterargument I'm right. It's how things work.
#47 - crutos (6 hours ago) [-]
>uses established religion in order to do so
>woman gets raped
>government acts on their religious idelology and punishes her because "that is what allah says"
>this is not proof.
have more proof
According to Sharia Law, which is religious law, based on the Quran.
"In case a woman gets raped , she is considered guilty of adultery unless she can provide four adult muslim male witnesses who had watched the action and who would testify that the sex was actually forced on her and that she was not a willing partner in it" - www.islamreview.com/articles/WOMEN_ARE_RESPONSIBLE.shtml
#151 - angelusprimus (2 hours ago) [-]
1.4 billion Sunni in the world, 1.2 fall under the schools that recognize Bukhari, I'm going to say you have 1.2 billion people disagreeing with you that he is relevant.
Or are you Shia and will claim that Sunni are not real muslims at all. Cos' I've heard that one before.
#53 - alfonshister (6 hours ago) [-]
Your site is so objective man, rarely see something like that.
Next time try to find someting less biased. Hate sites don't really count.
i mean, there are citations from random people saying stuff. If i call myself Christian, does me saying "Killing is legal" mean it's god's will?
And those Qur'an citations, dude, either it's taken out of context 33:33 right after the citation it says they should not expose themselves like BEFORE, the time before Islam , there is stuff added to it 33:59 litterally says they shall pull covers over themselves, in no way it says only eyes or it's only about leaving in compulsion. that last part is just made up by the writer. While we're at it, why should god tell a woman how to cover herself when she wasn't not allowed to leave the house anyways? things don't add up. or just left out 4:16 how about the law that tells to punish unfaithful partners, wether it's a man or a woman?
i refuse to see your link as credible source.
and now i'm off to university. going to be back in the evening.
#23 - Ken M (10 hours ago) [-]
That's weird considering 2 countries in Europe where abortions are completely illegal are Poland and Ireland, both catholic countries.
#22 - Ken M (10 hours ago) [-]
Apparently in Turkey, you can only have an abortion before the baby reaches a certain week old age, after that it is legally considered a person.
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