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|#8 - Thats what i thought.||06/12/2014 on Muslim things||0|
|#4 - Seems like justice.... [+] (7 new replies)||06/12/2014 on Muslim things||0|
#12 - duudegladiator (06/12/2014) [-]
"Oh, America STOLE their land from the Native Americans! We should give the land back!!!!!!!! #YoloSwag #DoSomethingAboutIt"
Too bad during that time, New York was both sold and colonized. The Natives sold most of New York in a crude deal mind you. But a deal none-the-less.
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|#1 - Instantly thought of Civ 5.||05/30/2014 on Cut Backs are Getting Real||+2|
|#5 - "Gun laws Questioned" Appareantly, my Right… [+] (50 new replies)||05/30/2014 on Sandy Hook Effect||+39|
#139 - dwarfman (05/31/2014) [-]
Like I said before:
On the same vine why were the parents of the columbine shooters not punished? Their irresponsibility is the only reason that happened.
#80 - anonymous (05/31/2014) [-]
Well lessee here...gun registered to you is a 9mm...crime committed with a 9 mm...well we know everyone who owns one of those. Lets go match the fucking ballistics and nail someone's balls to the wall because they have the gun which was used in this crime.
#93 - anonymous (05/31/2014) [-]
fewer deaths because people are more likely to be caught and convicted.
#118 - anonymous (05/31/2014) [-]
very true...but it would be effective in other instances where people are not willing to get caught because they know they can't get away with it.
Also you are proving the point that registration isn't enough and there needs to be more gun control in addition to a reform of mental health programs for early identification and treatment of potential shooters. Thanks for that.
#121 - daddycool (05/31/2014) [-]
I'm certainly okay with discrediting the notion of registration as anything important or valuable. I think it's a horrible idea with no benefits.
But I have done nothing to prove that we need more gun control or that we need any changes to mental health programs. I haven't said anything about them, so it is your bias that is saying we need them.
#124 - anonymous (05/31/2014) [-]
By stating that registration would do nothing to stop the mass shootings and continuing to press the issue of how registration would be useful you force the implication of the need for some solution to the issue. I have thus presented the solution as using registration to dissuade people from committing common crimes with guns as they could be more easily identified through the registration system and applying additional restrictions on the sale of firearms whilst concurrently restructuring the mental health institutions to identify and potentially treat those who are possible future mass shooters.
#125 - daddycool (05/31/2014) [-]
Or we could just stop limiting where people can take their guns.
Fun fact, most mass killings happen in "gun free zones." So, if we got rid of the gun free zones, maybe we'd have fewer mass killings or, at the very least, fewer deaths from mass killings.
Now, we don't agree on gun control, but we do agree that the mental health system in America is borked. I suggest we set aside the gun issue and work together to sort out the mental health system. Fair compromise?
#128 - dwarfman (05/31/2014) [-]
You fucking dense twat, a gun free zone is not meant as a deterrent. Should something happen in such a zone (Like a school) and they capture the bastard they may levy additional punishment upon them. NO ONE thinks it'll stop someone, just another legal means to punish a criminal.
#132 - daddycool (05/31/2014) [-]
Wow. That was unnecessarily harsh.
So, you create a special place where people aren't able to defend themselves against criminals so that you can charge criminals for more crimes. Then you say that I'm the stupid one for wanting people to be able to defend themselves.
You're aware there's no worse crime than murder, correct? And adding on a victimless crime like carrying a gun isn't going to do anything but target people that follow the law, yes?
Why not just hand ex-convicts a shotgun on their way out of prison and point them to the closest unarmed person? It'll be faster that way.
#140 - dwarfman (05/31/2014) [-]
A man commits a crime, not even necessarily related to anything involving guns. The Police catch the bastard, he's searched, he has a concealed weapon, and happens to be in a no firearm zone. On top of his original charges, he will be charged for having a weapon in that zone. It's a legal means for harsher punishment.
Nongovernmental: In states that have carry laws, a business may put up a sign stating they do not allow firearms on their premise. If having the firearm would not present a danger to the public or the owners of the establishment if it was discharged, they cannot bring criminal charges on that individual. However if they ask them to leave and they do not comply, they could call the police and say: We do not allow firearms in this place of business, he brought one, won't leave when we told him, we even pointed out the sign. In that instance they could be made to vacate.
Stop being an idiot.
#143 - daddycool (05/31/2014) [-]
You're such an angry, vile person. Seriously, you should get help if someone asking you a question makes you so hateful. Constantly badgering a person because of a question? You shouldn't own guns, you're going to end up hurting someone. Seek help.
Your point, however, is absolutely without merit. Why in the world should we care if someone carries a gun on school grounds? Does the mere fact that it's a gun mean that someone is going to get hurt by it? Are you, for example, capable of carrying a gun onto school property without murdering someone? I know that's a hard example because you're so belligerent and mentally unstable, but I have faith that even you, with your clear anger issues, can manage to not murder someone.
Let's say a criminal is doing criminal things on school grounds. Why do we need further statutes with which to punish them? What possible good would that do? You're punishing people for something that isn't hurting anyone.
Let's go further, though. Let's say you find a criminal doing criminal things and he wants to hurt someone on school grounds. Great, arrest them for that! There's no need to make more laws saying you can't do stuff. Why not just say that the US is a crime free zone and anyone caught committing crimes can therefore be punished even more severely because this is a crime free zone!
Why not? Because it's stupid, that's why not. You're painting a bulls-eye on every gun free zone, telling anyone that wants to hurt people that these people can't fight back.
I'm going to reiterate my last point because it's so important. Get help. You're lashing out in anger over precisely nothing. You're belligerent and you need help.
#159 - daddycool (05/31/2014) [-]
I'm doing this for fun, too. Honestly, though, I'm running low on "willingness to deal with anti-social belligerent leftists" so I think I'm gonna call it quits. He has no argument, he just likes throwing temper tantrums. That's why I keep calling him sick. Because he's sick.
#163 - daddycool (05/31/2014) [-]
Talking about politics is, to me, fun. But I'm excessively boring.
The only real problem I run into is that I have a low tolerance for stupid. In cases like these, it's easy to dismantle his argument and make him look like a deranged lunatic while I do so(which he is, so I'm telling the truth the whole time).
#126 - dwarfman (05/31/2014) [-]
Why do I want registration? If you have a mentally unstable dude living with you (Like the perpetrator behind Sandy Hook) you don't get to own weapons. Oh but my poor boy is just misunderstood he'd never hurt any one. The irresponsibility of the parents end up getting people killed, so yes it'd prevent it.
I'll use an even more local example, you can go over the Ben Franklin bridge into Philly and purchase a gun rather easily, drive back to Camden and shoot a nigger, get away scot free. The gun shops in Philly pissed the bed when the city wanted to stop this, went to the state legislature, cried their eyes out and nothing got done about it.
I own three handguns, and a rifle (M3 Carbine). Inherited two, bought the original because some bastard broke into my house. All registered, and I didn't say fucking boo about it. Take your Don't Tread on me flag, stuff it up your ass stick included and pull it out your mouth and taste the shit you're spewing.
#178 - swagbot (05/31/2014) [-]
This is the most substantive post you're posted yet... finally something we can have an actually discussion about:
This is very simple:
> Bad People will always Exist.
> The Only way to deal with Bad People is through Force.
> If you take away all the guns from citizens...
1) If a Bad Person does something, the police will always be 30 minutes.. the crime will already be done.
2) If that Bad Person IS the government, god forbid... well, they have all the guns, and the Normal Citizens are shit-out-of-luck, huh?
Focusing on Guns is not identifying the Root of the Problem - the Root of the Problem is BAD PEOPLE.
If we had MORE GUNS, and GOOD people USED them more (past and present), we wouldn't be in this situation (bunch of bad people floating around fucking shit up for the rest of us) in the first place.
Seriously... am i missing something here? If so... what am i missing?
Skype if we're gonna talk more... I'm tired of typing out these huge replies and having them shit all over.
#81 - anonymous (05/31/2014) [-]
fuck off mate. go back to fucking your sister and leave the computer alone.
#94 - anonymous (05/31/2014) [-]
and yet it keeps replying to the comments.
#86 - anonymous (05/31/2014) [-]
you are thinking of duelling which was legal and was made illegal..
#23 - citruslord (05/31/2014) [-]
Except that would be completely and nonnegotiaby immoral. The bill of rights is still in place, and the right to bear arms is, I believe, to be completely necessary. You wouldn't ban steak because a baby can't chew it, the actions of a small percentage of gun owners shouldn't cause the rest to suffer.
Also, what makes you think someone who is messed up enough to shoot and kill multiple innocent people would obey gun laws?
#84 - anonymous (05/31/2014) [-]
the guy in california who bought all his guns legally before going on a shooting spree.
#26 - crazan (05/31/2014) [-]
I believe the second amendment, the right to bear arms, was only necessary at the time of the creation of the bill of rights and as such should not apply to modern times. Many negative things come from the second amendment, such as the prominent amount of killings with guns in America.
#30 - citruslord (05/31/2014) [-]
Call me paranoid, but I don't believe I want the government disarming the people at a time when the government is treading over much of the constitution and spying on them. You place too much trust in them if you believe they are the only people who should have access to firearms.
And like I said, bad people will exist, and they will find ways to get guns.
#33 - crazan (05/31/2014) [-]
Yes, but by making it possible to reduce the amount of guns available, people will not be able to use guns as much. Take Australia for example, gun violence is pretty rare there, and that is because of the strict gun laws they have in place. I agree that there are always bad people around in this world, but if you can take away the weapon which many bad people can get, the violence will decrease. The only purpose of having a gun is to kill people
#83 - swagbot (05/31/2014) [-]
VIOLENT CRIME RATES INCREASED DRAMATICALLY AFTER THE 90s gun laws went into effect.
... same thing in Britain... YES, true, Britain has basically NO gun crimes... but they have FOUR TIMES the Violent Crimes rate than the U.S.! (easy statistics to find, look it up)
Your ideas are bad. They are simple-minded and poor.
I'm not gonna type anymore - Skype me if you want.
#36 - anonymous (05/31/2014) [-]
"There will always be bad people": if guns are gotten rid of, then they have to use weapons that are less harmful (individually stabbing vs spraying a crowd)...
But: like prohibition, difficult to make something with an industry set up around it disappear and, in this case, it is killing instruments, so inherently dangerous.
#48 - citruslord (05/31/2014) [-]
I fully support just general mental health reforms in the US. It has been mostly ignored, and with the prison culture and media focus on death, it exacerbates the issue. As far as I know, no other nations media puts such a heavy focus on death, death, and more death. Media's coverage of tragedies should be limited, people like Rodger should be watched when they are noticed to have mental issues, like he was, and taken care of accordingly.
As it is, the US is much more content to let mentally unstable people do crime, then imprison them, instead of preventing it.
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#106 - anonymous (05/16/2014) [-]
same fucking thing you buttfucking retard.
#63 - Awesomenessniss (05/16/2014) [-]
It's the flag most recognised with the Confederacy due to it being used as a primary battle flag. I think in the modern age it is actually the best flag to represent the Confederacy as the only other ones that could be used are the actual "national" flag which looks like the flags of many other countries, and the other one which has the Dixie flag in the corner and a big white field that confused everyone on the battlefield.
#54 - anonymous (05/16/2014) [-]
Educate yourself, cunt.
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#40 - anonymous (05/09/2014) [-]
It was during the soviet days. Right up until 1954 when it became part of Ukraine. Sooo
#42 - duudegladiator (05/09/2014) [-]
Crimea part of MODERN Ukraine, and Ukraine hasn't dissolved, so by that small amount of logic i can make, Russia taking Crimea is a kind of Invasion of Sovereign Territory.
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