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#114 - not if we can pitch it right and declare this ghostbusters a p…  [+] (3 new replies) 07/17/2016 on Sending A Message With Your... 0
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#120 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i mean, if i had time, money, a crew, and a camera i did write up my own Ghostbusters 3 script. it was a pretty cool idea where new age busters HAD to develop new tools and techniques because they were fighting the ghost of Egon Since Harold Ramis died he was the buster of Choice who knew all the tricks of the trade
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#126 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
see lets show the big movie companies that if they dont get their shit together we'll just make our own so far with ZERO budget we already have an opening scene and a possible script we have a chance lets not waste them
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#127 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i guess yea
#108 - that means that there is still a chance for a real ghostbusters 3  [+] (5 new replies) 07/17/2016 on Sending A Message With Your... +2
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#111 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
not likely. Not anytime soon, maybe in 10 years. Aykroid, Reitman, and Hudson were onboard for a new ghostbusters and they are all angry and against the new one. And don't get me started on how little a chance for murray to even look at it.

its sad to say, but this movie and the really really shitty "tie in" game killed any chance for any more ghostbusters content, at the very least killed any chance for good content
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#114 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
not if we can pitch it right and declare this ghostbusters a parody that holds no value to the original and ask them if they would be willing to follow the story line posted above for a chance that the ghostbuster can really return under their guidance

never give up hope hell a fan made the perfect opening scene already fans can come together to make most of the movie all they need are the remaining original actors to support it and it can be green-lit
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#120 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i mean, if i had time, money, a crew, and a camera i did write up my own Ghostbusters 3 script. it was a pretty cool idea where new age busters HAD to develop new tools and techniques because they were fighting the ghost of Egon Since Harold Ramis died he was the buster of Choice who knew all the tricks of the trade
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#126 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
see lets show the big movie companies that if they dont get their shit together we'll just make our own so far with ZERO budget we already have an opening scene and a possible script we have a chance lets not waste them
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#127 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i guess yea
#104 - all the more reason to mark this as a parody and not as a remake  [+] (7 new replies) 07/17/2016 on Sending A Message With Your... +3
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#106 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i mean. yea. Fieg's other movies were all parodies of other genres/movies.

so it makes sense
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#108 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
that means that there is still a chance for a real ghostbusters 3
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#111 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
not likely. Not anytime soon, maybe in 10 years. Aykroid, Reitman, and Hudson were onboard for a new ghostbusters and they are all angry and against the new one. And don't get me started on how little a chance for murray to even look at it.

its sad to say, but this movie and the really really shitty "tie in" game killed any chance for any more ghostbusters content, at the very least killed any chance for good content
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#114 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
not if we can pitch it right and declare this ghostbusters a parody that holds no value to the original and ask them if they would be willing to follow the story line posted above for a chance that the ghostbuster can really return under their guidance

never give up hope hell a fan made the perfect opening scene already fans can come together to make most of the movie all they need are the remaining original actors to support it and it can be green-lit
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#120 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i mean, if i had time, money, a crew, and a camera i did write up my own Ghostbusters 3 script. it was a pretty cool idea where new age busters HAD to develop new tools and techniques because they were fighting the ghost of Egon Since Harold Ramis died he was the buster of Choice who knew all the tricks of the trade
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#126 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
see lets show the big movie companies that if they dont get their shit together we'll just make our own so far with ZERO budget we already have an opening scene and a possible script we have a chance lets not waste them
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#127 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i guess yea
#102 - so you admit the nut shot was stupid and should have never bee…  [+] (10 new replies) 07/17/2016 on Sending A Message With Your... +4
#415 - kanyesfishsticks (07/18/2016) [-]
I didn't see the movie but nut shots are usually cheap laughs for idiots.
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#427 - dracory (07/18/2016) [-]
i know right they are always use for cheap laugh something the ghostbusters never needed to use it here belittles their work
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#151 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
I never said it shouldn't actually, I literally told you in my comments that it was a bad joke, but like you're hatred of the film you look past everything and tear things I say apart to improve your point
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#154 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
so you claim it to be a bad scene but your defending it cause i mentioned it here after you yourself proclaimed it a bad scene?
as for hatred for the film i dont hate it so much as i feel it's destroying the basis of good movie making

the movie doesnt add anything to the world of ghostbuster and doesnt improve upon the basis the original had it just throws bridesmaids on top of ghostbusters
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#157 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
I'll defend anything I think is being attacked for the wrong reasons, and you replied to my comment I'm just sending you one back
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#160 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
and i'm pointing out how those arguments dont work the narrative is shot, the comedy is all over the place, the side cast has been made pointless and useless (until they overshadow the secretary he was pointless to the movie in general along with the Chinese delivery man), they ignore the heart of the first 2 movies, and when it doesnt work they claim the fan are misogynist

not once have i made a claim that all female cast is bad but the narrative doesnt work
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#161 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
I never made the claim you said the all female cast was bad, where are you getting that from, you don't need to make this about sexism?
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#166 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
i was making a point about how sony defended the movie by saying all those makeing negative comments are misogynist but yet all the evidence i pointed out none of it had to do with the all female cast the only sexism in this movie is against males when in the first and second movie all were equal it seems like a step back for me
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#172 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
I mean yeah sure man, if you say so....you brought it up
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#175 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
it's been brought up before just because people dont like it doesnt mean we should ignore it
#101 - see they had everything they needed for a great story and they…  [+] (9 new replies) 07/17/2016 on Sending A Message With Your... +3
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#103 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
and its all Amy pascal's fault. like she 100% deserves the forced stepping down that followed the email leaks

She chose Fieg because he was hated men and would agree with her crazy feminist gimmicks.
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#104 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
all the more reason to mark this as a parody and not as a remake
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#106 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i mean. yea. Fieg's other movies were all parodies of other genres/movies.

so it makes sense
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#108 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
that means that there is still a chance for a real ghostbusters 3
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#111 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
not likely. Not anytime soon, maybe in 10 years. Aykroid, Reitman, and Hudson were onboard for a new ghostbusters and they are all angry and against the new one. And don't get me started on how little a chance for murray to even look at it.

its sad to say, but this movie and the really really shitty "tie in" game killed any chance for any more ghostbusters content, at the very least killed any chance for good content
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#114 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
not if we can pitch it right and declare this ghostbusters a parody that holds no value to the original and ask them if they would be willing to follow the story line posted above for a chance that the ghostbuster can really return under their guidance

never give up hope hell a fan made the perfect opening scene already fans can come together to make most of the movie all they need are the remaining original actors to support it and it can be green-lit
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#120 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i mean, if i had time, money, a crew, and a camera i did write up my own Ghostbusters 3 script. it was a pretty cool idea where new age busters HAD to develop new tools and techniques because they were fighting the ghost of Egon Since Harold Ramis died he was the buster of Choice who knew all the tricks of the trade
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#126 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
see lets show the big movie companies that if they dont get their shit together we'll just make our own so far with ZERO budget we already have an opening scene and a possible script we have a chance lets not waste them
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#127 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i guess yea
#100 - yes i saw the movie i gave it the chance to prove the internet…  [+] (4 new replies) 07/17/2016 on Sending A Message With Your... 0
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#125 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
Okay, so yes I would hire an incompetent idiot if I lived in a comedy, you see in a comedy you add characters that can make the audience laugh and relieve tension from more serious scenes.

And yes it's a rehash, the clue is in the title of the film, just read it a few more times until you get it man. How should it be subtle, I still don't think you know what a reboot is, it's replacing characters and villains with new actors and having a new story but keeping the PREMISE the same. You can compare it to bridesmaids if you want, but that won't change the fact its a reboot.

Does it continue the story of the original, no, that's because they are rebooting the franchise.

Tell you what champ, if you can tell me one thing you enjoyed from the movie in the next comment I'll take you seriously and respect your review of the film. Can't find a silver living, I'm backing out
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#139 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
ghostbusters was not a primary comedy the comedy of the original ghostbusters was the real situations that they found themselves in and the improved lines that came with them in this parody it's all slapstick and in-your-face comedy with no seriousness to be found

a reboot holds the values the original movie held while adding a fresh new look to it and this movie failed on both accounts it's bridesmaids in the ghostbusters world thats not a rehash thats a parody'

as for not continuing the story then why is the first thing the movie throws at us is "30 years ago a team of scientist save new york" they cant even keep their own narrative

this thing i enjoyed most was the ghost at the rock concert it was the only ghost besides slime to be original to an extent and the scene of it landing on patty was the closest they came to the subtle humor of the first movie, the comedy of that scene came from the situation the ghost put them in and the environment around them not and even then they ruined the scene with the line "i dont know it that was a black thing or a lady thing but i'm hella mad" that was pointless to the situation and took your attention from where it needed to be which was on the ghost vs. the ghostbusters
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#138 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
How come he has to like something about a movie for his complaints to be valid? are we not allowed to criticize things we don't like? what if he didn't like anything about the movie, which in this case is reasonable, how does that invalidate any of the real concerns he has
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#140 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
even then i pointed out the only time a scene worked and how even then they lowbrowd it with pointless slapstick
#91 - here would have been a better story for them to use in fact ma…  [+] (22 new replies) 07/17/2016 on Sending A Message With Your... +6
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#153 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
That is literally the beginning to Ghostbusters 2
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#156 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
um no this is the continuation of the second movie using the same narrative opening as the second to show cohesion between the movies and the time line for the movie much better then the parody which destroyed it's own narrative in 30 seconds
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#199 - cronos (07/17/2016) [-]
Hmmm... Green thumbs.
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#200 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
ty for the thumbs but i must ask what got me the red thumb to begin with?
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#204 - cronos (07/17/2016) [-]
Honestly, I had just woken up a few minutes ago and misread your comments entirely as an attack on the series, instead I see you were just offering decent suggesting for a future sequel and also raised a few solid points regarding the most recent film.
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#217 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
thank you the movie had many chances to be something great but the wouldnt break away from the slapstick and in your face comedy enough to work on any of the problems like the design of the ghost i mean most of them look the same where in the originals there were ghost of all shapes sizes and looks but in this we had 2 original style ghost the rest were humanoid
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#191 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
cronos i summon you here, you seem to disagree with my statement care to weigh in with your thoughts i'm open to discussion
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#158 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
The Ghostbusters are washed up after defending the city of New York from ghosts, called frauds and hacks and need to get back together to defend new york again from ghosts thanks to a resurgence of ghost activity?
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#164 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
only difference is the timeline the people forgot why the ghostbusters were important to them and they have no way to force ghost to come attack the city so unless something major is drawing them near the same thing will happen at the end of ever movie cause there are always non believers who will claim them frauds even in the first movie they were seen as frauds until the ending it's the very prejudice they must face
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#174 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
That happened in this movie, quite heavily
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#180 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
yes like i said every ghostbuster will have to face that that part of the whole movies construct but where in the original they knew and understood the need to fight through it with seriousness and science the parody make the cast look like a joke to the point you wouldnt believe them until a ghost was in your face
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#93 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
yea. that is kinda in line with what Aykroid and Reitman were planning back in the 90's with their first attempt at a Ghostbusters 3. Dan Aykroid said the Ghostbusters game was a pretty good summation of his ideas.

Reitman's plan for this new movie, before he "stepped down" as director was that the orignal cast would travel to a college following a PKE reading or something indicating a disturbance in the barrier between the worlds. They would recruit the scientists at the college who were creating the disturbance with proton pack-esque particle experiments to help fight the new threat. Reitman was wanting the new team to be 3 guys and 1 girl, with Charlie Day being someone he considered

like there are other directors who have written Ghostbuster 3 scripts that would easily out perform what fieg created
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#101 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
see they had everything they needed for a great story and they threw it out for a brides maids/ghostbusters parody
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#103 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
and its all Amy pascal's fault. like she 100% deserves the forced stepping down that followed the email leaks

She chose Fieg because he was hated men and would agree with her crazy feminist gimmicks.
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#104 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
all the more reason to mark this as a parody and not as a remake
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#106 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i mean. yea. Fieg's other movies were all parodies of other genres/movies.

so it makes sense
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#108 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
that means that there is still a chance for a real ghostbusters 3
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#111 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
not likely. Not anytime soon, maybe in 10 years. Aykroid, Reitman, and Hudson were onboard for a new ghostbusters and they are all angry and against the new one. And don't get me started on how little a chance for murray to even look at it.

its sad to say, but this movie and the really really shitty "tie in" game killed any chance for any more ghostbusters content, at the very least killed any chance for good content
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#114 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
not if we can pitch it right and declare this ghostbusters a parody that holds no value to the original and ask them if they would be willing to follow the story line posted above for a chance that the ghostbuster can really return under their guidance

never give up hope hell a fan made the perfect opening scene already fans can come together to make most of the movie all they need are the remaining original actors to support it and it can be green-lit
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#120 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i mean, if i had time, money, a crew, and a camera i did write up my own Ghostbusters 3 script. it was a pretty cool idea where new age busters HAD to develop new tools and techniques because they were fighting the ghost of Egon Since Harold Ramis died he was the buster of Choice who knew all the tricks of the trade
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#126 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
see lets show the big movie companies that if they dont get their shit together we'll just make our own so far with ZERO budget we already have an opening scene and a possible script we have a chance lets not waste them
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#127 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i guess yea
#83 - ok if it was a rehash then way did they choose to make every m…  [+] (9 new replies) 07/17/2016 on Sending A Message With Your... 0
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#94 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
Have you actually seen the movie or is all your opinions based on things you've read on user comments?

The nut shot takes up 5 seconds of the film, it isn't the closer to the finale and the only reason people have a problem with that is because they're tearing this movie apart looking for problems to support their views. Have you honestly never watched a film that has a bad joke but you still thought was a good film?

Also maybe they put in an idiot character because it's a comedy and the fact that's he's a male secretary is the whole point, it defies standard tropes?

The movie is still a rehashed version of the original, that doesn't mean that it is identically, that means it follows the same beats as the original. Was there a secretary, were there four ghostbusters, was it set in new york, did it have the same premise?
If your answer was yes to all those questions, it's a rehash of the original
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#117 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
the problem is, if a reboot can't match the quality of the original then what was the point of the reboot? The new ghostbusters reboot is at best mediocre, and at worst dog shit. Personally i don't think its that bad, just hugely mediocre and surrounded in the scummiest movie practices and people of the modern era.

Also, every male character is an idiot or an asshole because Paul fieg hates men, he has admitted he hates the idea of male bonding, of masculinity, and of guys in general.

They overuse the proton packs, making the weapons of grave power an importance they should be into a gimmicky light show. The main villain is the most generic MRA stereotype i have ever seen. Ever ghost is some god awful CGI abomination. Chris Hemsworth's character was one of the only redeemable parts, and he was just there to be a pretty boy who did a dance number.

Tell me, was there any point in this movie that surpassed the original? at all?
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#129 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
I'm not saying that it's the greatest film of our time, but tell me do you think this film was honestly be getting good praise if they did exactly the same things and hit the same points that they did in the original?
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#136 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
yes. it would. because they could say "Well at least its just a clone of the originals"

90% of all the glowingly positive reviews are framed around the false idea that the movie was attacked by misogyny, not the quality of the movie. Like we all know how corrupt and manipulating main stream reviews are, its not a new concept or a secret. Hell the entire Cast was forced to sign strict NDA's that only let them say good things about the movie.

i mean for a 4/10 i guess it rocks that 4 well, but if you look into the production history, the legally and morally dubious shit Pascal did to reach this reboot.The literal name calling by Paul fieg. What could have been with Reitman at the helm. Look at all of that and tell me this movie is deserving of any credit. I will say this, and i will stand by it.

Any movie that Strongarms cast members and forces them to be a part of it is a 0/10, no matter the quality. like fuck Fieg for forcing murray to be in this movie
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#100 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
yes i saw the movie i gave it the chance to prove the internet wrong and what did they do throw it all back at me like i'm an idiot that doesnt belong there

as for the nut shot it's not the amount of time it when they used it the final boss of the movie you dont go cheap on the final boss and what did they do go for the cheapest move in existence

so your saying you would higher a retarded secretary who cant do his job? cause if thats the case how do you get anything done

if it's a rehash then it should be subtle you keep ignore this point it has more in common with brides maids then it does the original ghostbusters thus making it a parody of the two movies

as for your comparisons thats three things 3 that anyone can do from there they throw the original under the bus the made the originally competent secretary into a bumbling idiot, they changed the fourth member from being a smart everyman who just happened to be black into a full blown black women stereotype
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#125 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
Okay, so yes I would hire an incompetent idiot if I lived in a comedy, you see in a comedy you add characters that can make the audience laugh and relieve tension from more serious scenes.

And yes it's a rehash, the clue is in the title of the film, just read it a few more times until you get it man. How should it be subtle, I still don't think you know what a reboot is, it's replacing characters and villains with new actors and having a new story but keeping the PREMISE the same. You can compare it to bridesmaids if you want, but that won't change the fact its a reboot.

Does it continue the story of the original, no, that's because they are rebooting the franchise.

Tell you what champ, if you can tell me one thing you enjoyed from the movie in the next comment I'll take you seriously and respect your review of the film. Can't find a silver living, I'm backing out
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#139 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
ghostbusters was not a primary comedy the comedy of the original ghostbusters was the real situations that they found themselves in and the improved lines that came with them in this parody it's all slapstick and in-your-face comedy with no seriousness to be found

a reboot holds the values the original movie held while adding a fresh new look to it and this movie failed on both accounts it's bridesmaids in the ghostbusters world thats not a rehash thats a parody'

as for not continuing the story then why is the first thing the movie throws at us is "30 years ago a team of scientist save new york" they cant even keep their own narrative

this thing i enjoyed most was the ghost at the rock concert it was the only ghost besides slime to be original to an extent and the scene of it landing on patty was the closest they came to the subtle humor of the first movie, the comedy of that scene came from the situation the ghost put them in and the environment around them not and even then they ruined the scene with the line "i dont know it that was a black thing or a lady thing but i'm hella mad" that was pointless to the situation and took your attention from where it needed to be which was on the ghost vs. the ghostbusters
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#138 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
How come he has to like something about a movie for his complaints to be valid? are we not allowed to criticize things we don't like? what if he didn't like anything about the movie, which in this case is reasonable, how does that invalidate any of the real concerns he has
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#140 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
even then i pointed out the only time a scene worked and how even then they lowbrowd it with pointless slapstick
#67 - good luck with that now they ruined their chance with this hor…  [+] (24 new replies) 07/17/2016 on Sending A Message With Your... +5
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#69 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
well yea, though its a shame Reitman was forced out by Pascal. his plan for Ghostbusters 3 could have built them the "ghostbusters cinematic universe" they so badly want
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#91 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
here would have been a better story for them to use in fact many of the old fans pointed this out by making a fan made trailer that looked better then their POS attempt

we open with the news papers from the end of the first and second movies followed by news paper explaining that after the second movie ghost attack all but stopped and the ghost busters were seen as frauds after the death of one of the members (the actor who died) ghost attacks started back up again but the aged members can no longer keep up with the ghost and must find and form a new team to take up the mantel

patty could have been the relative of winston and the others could have been in colleges or labs that have been attacked by ghost giving them more reason to hunt the ghost all

all this is, is a brides maids and ghostbusters parody
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#153 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
That is literally the beginning to Ghostbusters 2
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#156 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
um no this is the continuation of the second movie using the same narrative opening as the second to show cohesion between the movies and the time line for the movie much better then the parody which destroyed it's own narrative in 30 seconds
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#199 - cronos (07/17/2016) [-]
Hmmm... Green thumbs.
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#200 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
ty for the thumbs but i must ask what got me the red thumb to begin with?
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#204 - cronos (07/17/2016) [-]
Honestly, I had just woken up a few minutes ago and misread your comments entirely as an attack on the series, instead I see you were just offering decent suggesting for a future sequel and also raised a few solid points regarding the most recent film.
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#217 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
thank you the movie had many chances to be something great but the wouldnt break away from the slapstick and in your face comedy enough to work on any of the problems like the design of the ghost i mean most of them look the same where in the originals there were ghost of all shapes sizes and looks but in this we had 2 original style ghost the rest were humanoid
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#191 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
cronos i summon you here, you seem to disagree with my statement care to weigh in with your thoughts i'm open to discussion
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#158 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
The Ghostbusters are washed up after defending the city of New York from ghosts, called frauds and hacks and need to get back together to defend new york again from ghosts thanks to a resurgence of ghost activity?
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#164 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
only difference is the timeline the people forgot why the ghostbusters were important to them and they have no way to force ghost to come attack the city so unless something major is drawing them near the same thing will happen at the end of ever movie cause there are always non believers who will claim them frauds even in the first movie they were seen as frauds until the ending it's the very prejudice they must face
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#174 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
That happened in this movie, quite heavily
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#180 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
yes like i said every ghostbuster will have to face that that part of the whole movies construct but where in the original they knew and understood the need to fight through it with seriousness and science the parody make the cast look like a joke to the point you wouldnt believe them until a ghost was in your face
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#93 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
yea. that is kinda in line with what Aykroid and Reitman were planning back in the 90's with their first attempt at a Ghostbusters 3. Dan Aykroid said the Ghostbusters game was a pretty good summation of his ideas.

Reitman's plan for this new movie, before he "stepped down" as director was that the orignal cast would travel to a college following a PKE reading or something indicating a disturbance in the barrier between the worlds. They would recruit the scientists at the college who were creating the disturbance with proton pack-esque particle experiments to help fight the new threat. Reitman was wanting the new team to be 3 guys and 1 girl, with Charlie Day being someone he considered

like there are other directors who have written Ghostbuster 3 scripts that would easily out perform what fieg created
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#101 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
see they had everything they needed for a great story and they threw it out for a brides maids/ghostbusters parody
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#103 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
and its all Amy pascal's fault. like she 100% deserves the forced stepping down that followed the email leaks

She chose Fieg because he was hated men and would agree with her crazy feminist gimmicks.
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#104 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
all the more reason to mark this as a parody and not as a remake
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#106 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i mean. yea. Fieg's other movies were all parodies of other genres/movies.

so it makes sense
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#108 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
that means that there is still a chance for a real ghostbusters 3
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#111 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
not likely. Not anytime soon, maybe in 10 years. Aykroid, Reitman, and Hudson were onboard for a new ghostbusters and they are all angry and against the new one. And don't get me started on how little a chance for murray to even look at it.

its sad to say, but this movie and the really really shitty "tie in" game killed any chance for any more ghostbusters content, at the very least killed any chance for good content
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#114 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
not if we can pitch it right and declare this ghostbusters a parody that holds no value to the original and ask them if they would be willing to follow the story line posted above for a chance that the ghostbuster can really return under their guidance

never give up hope hell a fan made the perfect opening scene already fans can come together to make most of the movie all they need are the remaining original actors to support it and it can be green-lit
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#120 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i mean, if i had time, money, a crew, and a camera i did write up my own Ghostbusters 3 script. it was a pretty cool idea where new age busters HAD to develop new tools and techniques because they were fighting the ghost of Egon Since Harold Ramis died he was the buster of Choice who knew all the tricks of the trade
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#126 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
see lets show the big movie companies that if they dont get their shit together we'll just make our own so far with ZERO budget we already have an opening scene and a possible script we have a chance lets not waste them
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#127 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i guess yea
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#73 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
What? The story was practically a rehash of the original ghostbusters, except in the 2016 reboot we actually get some story behind the characters and their pursuits of the supernatural?
Why did Ray and Egon get together to hunt for the paranormal, how did they meet Peter, was any of that explained in the original because honestly I can't remember?

As for the Nut Shot I genuinely think that was not a shot against men, it seemed to me to be something the director thought would be funny and had been put in before all of this hurt burt hit the internet.

Also just FYI, a REBOOT is a rehash of an original, did it have the title ghostbusters, did they use proton packs, did they catch ghosts in New York?
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#83 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
ok if it was a rehash then way did they choose to make every male character as either an idiot or an asshole when in the original the only character that was a major asshole was the mayor, the secretary for the original was competent believable and the "rehashed" version the secretary is an idiot who cant do his job but they hire him to be eyecandy, as for the nut shot who would think that was a funny way to end the movie that had a serious undertone with subtle humor and make it a full blown comedy with no subtly
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#94 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
Have you actually seen the movie or is all your opinions based on things you've read on user comments?

The nut shot takes up 5 seconds of the film, it isn't the closer to the finale and the only reason people have a problem with that is because they're tearing this movie apart looking for problems to support their views. Have you honestly never watched a film that has a bad joke but you still thought was a good film?

Also maybe they put in an idiot character because it's a comedy and the fact that's he's a male secretary is the whole point, it defies standard tropes?

The movie is still a rehashed version of the original, that doesn't mean that it is identically, that means it follows the same beats as the original. Was there a secretary, were there four ghostbusters, was it set in new york, did it have the same premise?
If your answer was yes to all those questions, it's a rehash of the original
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#117 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
the problem is, if a reboot can't match the quality of the original then what was the point of the reboot? The new ghostbusters reboot is at best mediocre, and at worst dog shit. Personally i don't think its that bad, just hugely mediocre and surrounded in the scummiest movie practices and people of the modern era.

Also, every male character is an idiot or an asshole because Paul fieg hates men, he has admitted he hates the idea of male bonding, of masculinity, and of guys in general.

They overuse the proton packs, making the weapons of grave power an importance they should be into a gimmicky light show. The main villain is the most generic MRA stereotype i have ever seen. Ever ghost is some god awful CGI abomination. Chris Hemsworth's character was one of the only redeemable parts, and he was just there to be a pretty boy who did a dance number.

Tell me, was there any point in this movie that surpassed the original? at all?
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#129 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
I'm not saying that it's the greatest film of our time, but tell me do you think this film was honestly be getting good praise if they did exactly the same things and hit the same points that they did in the original?
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#136 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
yes. it would. because they could say "Well at least its just a clone of the originals"

90% of all the glowingly positive reviews are framed around the false idea that the movie was attacked by misogyny, not the quality of the movie. Like we all know how corrupt and manipulating main stream reviews are, its not a new concept or a secret. Hell the entire Cast was forced to sign strict NDA's that only let them say good things about the movie.

i mean for a 4/10 i guess it rocks that 4 well, but if you look into the production history, the legally and morally dubious shit Pascal did to reach this reboot.The literal name calling by Paul fieg. What could have been with Reitman at the helm. Look at all of that and tell me this movie is deserving of any credit. I will say this, and i will stand by it.

Any movie that Strongarms cast members and forces them to be a part of it is a 0/10, no matter the quality. like fuck Fieg for forcing murray to be in this movie
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#100 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
yes i saw the movie i gave it the chance to prove the internet wrong and what did they do throw it all back at me like i'm an idiot that doesnt belong there

as for the nut shot it's not the amount of time it when they used it the final boss of the movie you dont go cheap on the final boss and what did they do go for the cheapest move in existence

so your saying you would higher a retarded secretary who cant do his job? cause if thats the case how do you get anything done

if it's a rehash then it should be subtle you keep ignore this point it has more in common with brides maids then it does the original ghostbusters thus making it a parody of the two movies

as for your comparisons thats three things 3 that anyone can do from there they throw the original under the bus the made the originally competent secretary into a bumbling idiot, they changed the fourth member from being a smart everyman who just happened to be black into a full blown black women stereotype
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#125 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
Okay, so yes I would hire an incompetent idiot if I lived in a comedy, you see in a comedy you add characters that can make the audience laugh and relieve tension from more serious scenes.

And yes it's a rehash, the clue is in the title of the film, just read it a few more times until you get it man. How should it be subtle, I still don't think you know what a reboot is, it's replacing characters and villains with new actors and having a new story but keeping the PREMISE the same. You can compare it to bridesmaids if you want, but that won't change the fact its a reboot.

Does it continue the story of the original, no, that's because they are rebooting the franchise.

Tell you what champ, if you can tell me one thing you enjoyed from the movie in the next comment I'll take you seriously and respect your review of the film. Can't find a silver living, I'm backing out
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#139 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
ghostbusters was not a primary comedy the comedy of the original ghostbusters was the real situations that they found themselves in and the improved lines that came with them in this parody it's all slapstick and in-your-face comedy with no seriousness to be found

a reboot holds the values the original movie held while adding a fresh new look to it and this movie failed on both accounts it's bridesmaids in the ghostbusters world thats not a rehash thats a parody'

as for not continuing the story then why is the first thing the movie throws at us is "30 years ago a team of scientist save new york" they cant even keep their own narrative

this thing i enjoyed most was the ghost at the rock concert it was the only ghost besides slime to be original to an extent and the scene of it landing on patty was the closest they came to the subtle humor of the first movie, the comedy of that scene came from the situation the ghost put them in and the environment around them not and even then they ruined the scene with the line "i dont know it that was a black thing or a lady thing but i'm hella mad" that was pointless to the situation and took your attention from where it needed to be which was on the ghost vs. the ghostbusters
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#138 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
How come he has to like something about a movie for his complaints to be valid? are we not allowed to criticize things we don't like? what if he didn't like anything about the movie, which in this case is reasonable, how does that invalidate any of the real concerns he has
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#140 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
even then i pointed out the only time a scene worked and how even then they lowbrowd it with pointless slapstick
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#81 - philskimbosh (07/17/2016) [-]
I never took the nutshot as an anti-man thing, just a really low-brow joke that appeals to the lowest common denominator.
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#95 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
Thank you
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#375 - philskimbosh (07/18/2016) [-]
I'm almost afraid to read any other comments based on how uppity some of the other users are about someone having an opinion on this movie.
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#102 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
so you admit the nut shot was stupid and should have never been in this movie now right?
#415 - kanyesfishsticks (07/18/2016) [-]
I didn't see the movie but nut shots are usually cheap laughs for idiots.
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#427 - dracory (07/18/2016) [-]
i know right they are always use for cheap laugh something the ghostbusters never needed to use it here belittles their work
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#151 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
I never said it shouldn't actually, I literally told you in my comments that it was a bad joke, but like you're hatred of the film you look past everything and tear things I say apart to improve your point
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#154 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
so you claim it to be a bad scene but your defending it cause i mentioned it here after you yourself proclaimed it a bad scene?
as for hatred for the film i dont hate it so much as i feel it's destroying the basis of good movie making

the movie doesnt add anything to the world of ghostbuster and doesnt improve upon the basis the original had it just throws bridesmaids on top of ghostbusters
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#157 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
I'll defend anything I think is being attacked for the wrong reasons, and you replied to my comment I'm just sending you one back
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#160 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
and i'm pointing out how those arguments dont work the narrative is shot, the comedy is all over the place, the side cast has been made pointless and useless (until they overshadow the secretary he was pointless to the movie in general along with the Chinese delivery man), they ignore the heart of the first 2 movies, and when it doesnt work they claim the fan are misogynist

not once have i made a claim that all female cast is bad but the narrative doesnt work
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#161 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
I never made the claim you said the all female cast was bad, where are you getting that from, you don't need to make this about sexism?
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#166 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
i was making a point about how sony defended the movie by saying all those makeing negative comments are misogynist but yet all the evidence i pointed out none of it had to do with the all female cast the only sexism in this movie is against males when in the first and second movie all were equal it seems like a step back for me
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#172 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
I mean yeah sure man, if you say so....you brought it up
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#175 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
it's been brought up before just because people dont like it doesnt mean we should ignore it
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#57 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
well that comes from the idea to make a "ghostbusters universe" in a same fashion to the MCU.

according to some interviews and exclusives they were taking the story of the first GB movie and breaking it into 3 different movies, their plan being for the first to be all female, the second all male and directed by the Russo's, and the third to have both teams come together. they also wanted to make a slimer children's movie

deadline.com/2015/03/ghostbusters-channing-tatum-joe-and-anthony-russo-drew-pearce-ivan-reitman-dan-aykroyd-1201388917/
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#67 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
good luck with that now they ruined their chance with this horrid parody and also this wasnt their first choice they originally wanted these 4 ladies to be in the whole series it's after the controversy that they changed their position to try to prove that all the haters were misogynist and look at how that went over
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#69 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
well yea, though its a shame Reitman was forced out by Pascal. his plan for Ghostbusters 3 could have built them the "ghostbusters cinematic universe" they so badly want
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#91 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
here would have been a better story for them to use in fact many of the old fans pointed this out by making a fan made trailer that looked better then their POS attempt

we open with the news papers from the end of the first and second movies followed by news paper explaining that after the second movie ghost attack all but stopped and the ghost busters were seen as frauds after the death of one of the members (the actor who died) ghost attacks started back up again but the aged members can no longer keep up with the ghost and must find and form a new team to take up the mantel

patty could have been the relative of winston and the others could have been in colleges or labs that have been attacked by ghost giving them more reason to hunt the ghost all

all this is, is a brides maids and ghostbusters parody
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#153 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
That is literally the beginning to Ghostbusters 2
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#156 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
um no this is the continuation of the second movie using the same narrative opening as the second to show cohesion between the movies and the time line for the movie much better then the parody which destroyed it's own narrative in 30 seconds
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#199 - cronos (07/17/2016) [-]
Hmmm... Green thumbs.
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#200 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
ty for the thumbs but i must ask what got me the red thumb to begin with?
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#204 - cronos (07/17/2016) [-]
Honestly, I had just woken up a few minutes ago and misread your comments entirely as an attack on the series, instead I see you were just offering decent suggesting for a future sequel and also raised a few solid points regarding the most recent film.
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#217 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
thank you the movie had many chances to be something great but the wouldnt break away from the slapstick and in your face comedy enough to work on any of the problems like the design of the ghost i mean most of them look the same where in the originals there were ghost of all shapes sizes and looks but in this we had 2 original style ghost the rest were humanoid
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#191 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
cronos i summon you here, you seem to disagree with my statement care to weigh in with your thoughts i'm open to discussion
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#158 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
The Ghostbusters are washed up after defending the city of New York from ghosts, called frauds and hacks and need to get back together to defend new york again from ghosts thanks to a resurgence of ghost activity?
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#164 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
only difference is the timeline the people forgot why the ghostbusters were important to them and they have no way to force ghost to come attack the city so unless something major is drawing them near the same thing will happen at the end of ever movie cause there are always non believers who will claim them frauds even in the first movie they were seen as frauds until the ending it's the very prejudice they must face
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#174 - bluedodger (07/17/2016) [-]
That happened in this movie, quite heavily
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#180 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
yes like i said every ghostbuster will have to face that that part of the whole movies construct but where in the original they knew and understood the need to fight through it with seriousness and science the parody make the cast look like a joke to the point you wouldnt believe them until a ghost was in your face
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#93 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
yea. that is kinda in line with what Aykroid and Reitman were planning back in the 90's with their first attempt at a Ghostbusters 3. Dan Aykroid said the Ghostbusters game was a pretty good summation of his ideas.

Reitman's plan for this new movie, before he "stepped down" as director was that the orignal cast would travel to a college following a PKE reading or something indicating a disturbance in the barrier between the worlds. They would recruit the scientists at the college who were creating the disturbance with proton pack-esque particle experiments to help fight the new threat. Reitman was wanting the new team to be 3 guys and 1 girl, with Charlie Day being someone he considered

like there are other directors who have written Ghostbuster 3 scripts that would easily out perform what fieg created
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#101 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
see they had everything they needed for a great story and they threw it out for a brides maids/ghostbusters parody
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#103 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
and its all Amy pascal's fault. like she 100% deserves the forced stepping down that followed the email leaks

She chose Fieg because he was hated men and would agree with her crazy feminist gimmicks.
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#104 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
all the more reason to mark this as a parody and not as a remake
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#106 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i mean. yea. Fieg's other movies were all parodies of other genres/movies.

so it makes sense
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#108 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
that means that there is still a chance for a real ghostbusters 3
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#111 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
not likely. Not anytime soon, maybe in 10 years. Aykroid, Reitman, and Hudson were onboard for a new ghostbusters and they are all angry and against the new one. And don't get me started on how little a chance for murray to even look at it.

its sad to say, but this movie and the really really shitty "tie in" game killed any chance for any more ghostbusters content, at the very least killed any chance for good content
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#114 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
not if we can pitch it right and declare this ghostbusters a parody that holds no value to the original and ask them if they would be willing to follow the story line posted above for a chance that the ghostbuster can really return under their guidance

never give up hope hell a fan made the perfect opening scene already fans can come together to make most of the movie all they need are the remaining original actors to support it and it can be green-lit
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#120 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i mean, if i had time, money, a crew, and a camera i did write up my own Ghostbusters 3 script. it was a pretty cool idea where new age busters HAD to develop new tools and techniques because they were fighting the ghost of Egon Since Harold Ramis died he was the buster of Choice who knew all the tricks of the trade
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#126 - dracory (07/17/2016) [-]
see lets show the big movie companies that if they dont get their shit together we'll just make our own so far with ZERO budget we already have an opening scene and a possible script we have a chance lets not waste them
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#127 - killjoyus (07/17/2016) [-]
i guess yea