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#139 - The only PETA ill ever be a member of is People Eating Tasty Animals 08/01/2015 on PETA's Pokemon Game +1
#33 - UN peacekeeping missions are different thing. They are volunta… 07/18/2015 on Nordic Power +1
#31 - Seriously? Nyt vittu Military=asevoimat. Suomessa olevat asevo…  [+] (2 new replies) 07/18/2015 on Nordic Power +2
#32 - captainprincess (07/18/2015) [-]
mhm
#77 - anon (07/18/2015) [-]
Vittu nää oot tyhmä, vedä käteen.
#15 - We are not talking about the same thing. I'm talking about the…  [+] (4 new replies) 07/18/2015 on Nordic Power +1
User avatar #16 - captainprincess (07/18/2015) [-]
Well no
I'm more on the side that the name and the term are the same thing
#31 - deneios (07/18/2015) [-]
Seriously? Nyt vittu Military=asevoimat. Suomessa olevat asevoimat on erisnimeltään Suomen Puolustusvoimat. Eli et voi väittää että Suomen Puolustusvoimat ei ole asevoimia
#32 - captainprincess (07/18/2015) [-]
mhm
#77 - anon (07/18/2015) [-]
Vittu nää oot tyhmä, vedä käteen.
#11 - Military is a broad term of a armed force that acts under the …  [+] (8 new replies) 07/18/2015 on Nordic Power +2
User avatar #12 - captainprincess (07/18/2015) [-]
Or alternatively
It's a defense force
#15 - deneios (07/18/2015) [-]
We are not talking about the same thing. I'm talking about the term and you are talking about the name.
User avatar #16 - captainprincess (07/18/2015) [-]
Well no
I'm more on the side that the name and the term are the same thing
#31 - deneios (07/18/2015) [-]
Seriously? Nyt vittu Military=asevoimat. Suomessa olevat asevoimat on erisnimeltään Suomen Puolustusvoimat. Eli et voi väittää että Suomen Puolustusvoimat ei ole asevoimia
#32 - captainprincess (07/18/2015) [-]
mhm
#77 - anon (07/18/2015) [-]
Vittu nää oot tyhmä, vedä käteen.
User avatar #14 - DeathOne (07/18/2015) [-]
That's exactly what the military force would say.

#13 - anon (07/18/2015) [-]
a defense force is a military force, a military force doesnt have to be a defense force. ez peze lemon squeezy
#10 - Comment deleted 07/18/2015 on Nordic Power 0
#8 - You got it wrong. We have military that goes by the name of Fi…  [+] (40 new replies) 07/18/2015 on Nordic Power +4
User avatar #9 - captainprincess (07/18/2015) [-]
It's not a military force because we do not export our forces to other nations
We do not assault foreign soil, we stay on home soil
No man or woman in the defense forces will find themselves obligated to leave the country under any military orders and we are not subject to the chain of international command

We defend our own land and that's it
Defense Force
User avatar #26 - zevran (07/18/2015) [-]
Defence is still military. If you're defending your country you're part of a military operation. If a country maintains a force of armed men and/or women with the expressed purpose of engaging in war if necessary, then that country is in possession of a military.
User avatar #38 - angelious (07/18/2015) [-]
he is right on the part that defensive force is different than military.

a defensive force is only big and strong enough to defend, but never strong enough to mount an invasion for instance jsdf


but as far as i know. finland isnt obliged to have defensive force alone, and we can invade if we so wanted. but considering our surrounding countries there isnt much anything we could invade without getting fucked by either russians or eu...
User avatar #53 - zevran (07/18/2015) [-]
Every force in the western world is a "defence force", they became that after the first and second world war when war went a bit out of fashion as a legitimate tool of diplomacy among the middle and great powers of the world. That's why in most Western countries the ministry of war became the ministry of Defence. It doesn't change the fact that most countries, including Finland, maintain an armed force of men and women with the objective of engaging in war if need be. Such a force is known as a military.
User avatar #54 - angelious (07/18/2015) [-]
google jsdf.
User avatar #55 - zevran (07/18/2015) [-]
It's a military, I fail to see your point. The Japanese have essentially just circumvented their own constitution because of necessity. Just because you give your Army the name "defence force" doesn't mean it's not an army.
User avatar #57 - angelious (07/18/2015) [-]
japan doesnt HAVE a military.


it is not allowed to weaponize its military to a point that it would be able to mount an offense.

they are only allowed to have enough of a military force that it can repel an invasion.



defense force is different than army. that much is true.


finland,while its called defence force. is a military.


case in point. what i was trying to teach you was: that while captainprincess is wrong about finnish army being a defence force. there is a difference between defence force and an actual military.
User avatar #71 - zevran (07/18/2015) [-]
I disagree. If you do, as the Japanese do, have a few hundred thousand men, under arms, with ships and tanks and artillery then that is a military. it doesn't matter if you call it a defence force or a paramilitary force or a territorial policing force. As long as the force is meant to, and in some degree capable of engaging hostile foreign threats, then it is a military force.
User avatar #72 - zevran (07/18/2015) [-]
To add to my point. The definition of a military is simply "the armed forces of a country".
#86 - angelious (07/18/2015) [-]
aka your definition is wrong...

what next republic is the same as democracy.

or absolute monarchy is the same as constitutional monarchy...


or football and soccer are the same sport...
User avatar #101 - zevran (07/18/2015) [-]
It's the Oxford dictionary's definition.

Here's what I'm saying, in simple terms: "If a country organizes a lot of men and women in military order, with military grade weapons, with a military goal, with a military discipline, then that country is probably fielding a military. Even if it prefers to call them a 'defence force', and not 'the military'."

What you seem to be saying is that if I call my large force of heavily armed people meant to repel external threats a 'defence force' that makes it somehow a group of civilians who just happen to be armed just like a military, and are paid by the government.
#105 - anon (07/18/2015) [-]
you're arguing with a retard
User avatar #104 - angelious (07/18/2015) [-]
it makes them members of an armed defense force...

unable to mount an offense.


small in size, less powered than a full military.

ergo: less powerful version of military force.


take your head out of your arse and go do some fucking research. im done trying to explain this to an idiot..
User avatar #27 - captainprincess (07/18/2015) [-]
Their purpose isn't to engage in war
It's to repel invaders

Atleast that's what I was taught by a captain
User avatar #29 - zevran (07/18/2015) [-]
If someone invades you, is that not a war?
User avatar #30 - captainprincess (07/18/2015) [-]
It's an act of warfare sure, but I would think war engages two militaries to attack eachother

The finnish defense force isn't even a standing force
People do a time of service and then go home after between 6 months to 2 years of training in most cases

Don't really have many active soldiers staying soldiers, the few that are are mostly there to train the next batch of conscripts until theirservice is over

Most of the native population is trained and a very small number of people stay 'at the ready' in any way

If a small spit of dirt gets it's shit stomped on by uninvited boots holding big guns, I'd not consider that spit of dirt engaged in a war
User avatar #52 - zevran (07/18/2015) [-]
It's still a military force, it's just based on conscription, like the armies of many countries. How the military is organized, or its stated purpose does not alter the fact that is a permanent force of soldiers with the equipment and training (in theory) to engage in war.

Two armies rarely attack each other at the same time. Usually one participant is a defender, and the other an attacker. It is still war once certain criteria regarding the number of people involved and the organization behind them are met. Finland is a sovereign nation, with an army, navy and air force, with the purpose of defending the sovereignty of the country.

And to the last point, that depends entirely on who the belligerents in the conflict are. If the American army attacks three men with guns, no it is not a war. If the Russian Army attacks the vastly inferior Georgian army it is a war.
#18 - spamzor (07/18/2015) [-]
So, when not being invaded, what do they do?
User avatar #20 - captainprincess (07/18/2015) [-]
Jack shit really
#22 - spamzor (07/18/2015) [-]
Uhm... really? O.o Do they get paid for that?
#44 - anon (07/18/2015) [-]
He is talking out of his ass, the FDF has 3 main things it does:

1. Defend Finland
2. Support authorities during a crisis
3. Join peacekeeping operations (mainly UN)

So lets say an earthquake hits finland, one of our Nuclear powerplants blows up => FDF will help in any way, even draft people if necessary.
User avatar #39 - angelious (07/18/2015) [-]
military is mandatory.

you go to military for training. up to one year of time depending on if you stay as a recruit or if you advance in ranks.

you get paid depending on how much a pack of cigarettes costs in the stores.


after that you are moved to reserves. meaning if there comes an invasion you are called back for military service.



only commanding officers and such make a ca rear out of military service.
User avatar #24 - captainprincess (07/18/2015) [-]
You get paid during your service which is a minimum of 6 months and I think if you don't go into a full career at some base or other as an instructor or the like you can do 2 years service total

But the perk is that if you take up an actual job there you get to retire after like 25 years of doing jack shit service
#45 - anon (07/18/2015) [-]
I bet you served in logistics, what a bunch of pussies.
#17 - barakakaka (07/18/2015) [-]
Weren't there Finnish forces in Iraq or Afghanistan?
User avatar #19 - captainprincess (07/18/2015) [-]
I don't think there was no
If there were any fins there it's not bloody likely they were there are representatives of the defense forces
User avatar #21 - barakakaka (07/18/2015) [-]
Afganistan 1/8 Finnish Afghanistan Documentary (English Subtitles) I beg to differ.
#23 - captainprincess (07/18/2015) [-]
Well
That's upsetting

Big fat slap in the face betrayal of what the resident captain taught us when I did my service

The defence forces are not supposed to export troops as either allies or attackers, this is some bullshit
#76 - anon (07/18/2015) [-]
Please just shut the fuck up already.

Sincerely, every other guy who has done their MILITARY service.
#47 - anon (07/18/2015) [-]
You sir are NOT a finn, and if you are I am ashamed of being your countryman.

Responsibilities of FDF:

1. Defend Finland
2. Support authorities during a crisis
3. Join peacekeeping operations (mainly UN)
#33 - deneios (07/18/2015) [-]
UN peacekeeping missions are different thing. They are voluntary missions for the soldiers that work full time for FDF and they are recruited trough the UN. What you are referring as is that FDF cant send conscripts into those missions.
#11 - deneios (07/18/2015) [-]
Military is a broad term of a armed force that acts under the control of the government. It contains all the specialties such as air force, naval forces and the army. Finnish government has stated that Finnish Defense Force is only used as self-defense but it still is a military force
User avatar #12 - captainprincess (07/18/2015) [-]
Or alternatively
It's a defense force
#15 - deneios (07/18/2015) [-]
We are not talking about the same thing. I'm talking about the term and you are talking about the name.
User avatar #16 - captainprincess (07/18/2015) [-]
Well no
I'm more on the side that the name and the term are the same thing
#31 - deneios (07/18/2015) [-]
Seriously? Nyt vittu Military=asevoimat. Suomessa olevat asevoimat on erisnimeltään Suomen Puolustusvoimat. Eli et voi väittää että Suomen Puolustusvoimat ei ole asevoimia
#32 - captainprincess (07/18/2015) [-]
mhm
#77 - anon (07/18/2015) [-]
Vittu nää oot tyhmä, vedä käteen.
User avatar #14 - DeathOne (07/18/2015) [-]
That's exactly what the military force would say.

#13 - anon (07/18/2015) [-]
a defense force is a military force, a military force doesnt have to be a defense force. ez peze lemon squeezy
#49 - Also middle east if already FUBAR there is nothing else than o…  [+] (2 new replies) 06/11/2015 on Communism 0
User avatar #57 - kolya (06/11/2015) [-]
if the middle east is all just sand and rocks are there more american troops there than anywhere in the world ? to help rebuild the country and teach people how to be good democrats ?
User avatar #56 - kolya (06/11/2015) [-]
are you kidding me ?! the middle east is a treasure trove of mineral resources,oil running out ? not in the near future...if the middle eastern countries would cease oil transport to the west,people would suddenly start to buy bicycles...even afghanistan has important mineral resources like gold and gemstones that are worth a couple trillion dollars
#48 - European countries do not need more territory as their industr…  [+] (4 new replies) 06/11/2015 on Communism +2
User avatar #55 - kolya (06/11/2015) [-]
european countries no,but its neighbours yes,china and japan would love some more territory as always,not to mention the americans as well,russia being in their doorstep,european countries are sustaining their own people very good,weak european countries that can't sustain themselves or are just asking for money should be denied the right to be in the eu,Karelia isn't as important strategically as other areas mainly central Russia or the southern districts where the real battle happens,i seriously doubt finland said we dont want it...karelia has reserves of diamond as far as i know
#49 - deneios (06/11/2015) [-]
Also middle east if already FUBAR there is nothing else than oil and sand and the oil is running out.
User avatar #57 - kolya (06/11/2015) [-]
if the middle east is all just sand and rocks are there more american troops there than anywhere in the world ? to help rebuild the country and teach people how to be good democrats ?
User avatar #56 - kolya (06/11/2015) [-]
are you kidding me ?! the middle east is a treasure trove of mineral resources,oil running out ? not in the near future...if the middle eastern countries would cease oil transport to the west,people would suddenly start to buy bicycles...even afghanistan has important mineral resources like gold and gemstones that are worth a couple trillion dollars
#44 - Thankful for Russia!? A country that invaded with false flag t…  [+] (7 new replies) 06/11/2015 on Communism +2
User avatar #51 - greyhoundfd (06/11/2015) [-]
Every single fucking country on the planet has used false-flag tactics as a reason to justify war, Russia is not special. Hell, we started two wars this century on a false-flag premise.
User avatar #45 - kolya (06/11/2015) [-]
Everyone goes against Russia because they want a piece of it,who wouldn't want Russia to fall...the western countries are waiting like eagles,i would prefer to see others fall rather than Russia,why should it ? 'murica is present in the Middle East for a long time and everyone excuses them because "mean old terrorists"...it is just childish and pathetic,every country on earth would love more territory and you can't deny it

You talk about how Russia invades but what about Israel and how it destroys homes every day just like 'murica because the mean old terrorists just won't go away and how european countries sell themselves for free...there were many dictators in history other than hitler and stalin...
#48 - deneios (06/11/2015) [-]
European countries do not need more territory as their industry can hardly sustain the people they already have. All the resources are behind the fucking ural mountains so going that far is unreasonable. Also the area near european borders is so badly kept you wouldn't even want it. A good example is Russian carelia where the infrastructure is frozen in time when it was still under Finnish rule. Finland wouldn't want carelia back because it would need so much work to be proper compared to other areas.
If and when Russia falls the inner Russian states would go independent or be invaded by the China
User avatar #55 - kolya (06/11/2015) [-]
european countries no,but its neighbours yes,china and japan would love some more territory as always,not to mention the americans as well,russia being in their doorstep,european countries are sustaining their own people very good,weak european countries that can't sustain themselves or are just asking for money should be denied the right to be in the eu,Karelia isn't as important strategically as other areas mainly central Russia or the southern districts where the real battle happens,i seriously doubt finland said we dont want it...karelia has reserves of diamond as far as i know
#49 - deneios (06/11/2015) [-]
Also middle east if already FUBAR there is nothing else than oil and sand and the oil is running out.
User avatar #57 - kolya (06/11/2015) [-]
if the middle east is all just sand and rocks are there more american troops there than anywhere in the world ? to help rebuild the country and teach people how to be good democrats ?
User avatar #56 - kolya (06/11/2015) [-]
are you kidding me ?! the middle east is a treasure trove of mineral resources,oil running out ? not in the near future...if the middle eastern countries would cease oil transport to the west,people would suddenly start to buy bicycles...even afghanistan has important mineral resources like gold and gemstones that are worth a couple trillion dollars
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