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|#5 - Wehrmacht = soldiers SS = crazy zealots [+] (22 new replies)||11/12/2014 on My grandfather's bullet||+271|
#188 - anonymous (11/13/2014) [-]
That's Landser, a German Nazi band. They have nothing to do with the SS except maybe the ideology.
#129 - anonymous (11/13/2014) [-]
Actually my great uncle was a member of the SS Viking division. They were essentially a special forces infantry unit.
It was an even smaller minority that took part in the holocaust.
#97 - rambomanthree (11/13/2014) [-]
the wermact did almost none of the brutality
most of the brutality was done by the waffen SS
those were the ones that would murder and rape whole villages
Wermact were just doing their job.. and they thought the same as you would think. if you were forced to go to war and were told you were fighting for your country's safety
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#63 - anonymous (11/13/2014) [-]
I think you all have a pretty bad understanding of the Waffen SS.
Outside of those that participated in experiments and guards for KZ and other important Areas they were also simply soldier.
You didn't have to be a crazy Nazi minded zealot to be part of it. They were more something like modern Special Forces, elites among the elite that recieved advanced tutelage. An average Waffen SS soldier had a K/D of roughly 8, as comparission the average US soldier had 0.5 if I remember correctly.
Most modern Special Forces Training courses, including spetznas Training is based on the Training Standards of the Waffen SS.
Also it was probably the combat group with the most ethnical diversity as it had squads full of Indians, Arabs, Russians, Blacks and more.
The believe that the nazis simply hated all other kin is a modern day misconcept that developed through Hollywood and some fake shit that was claimed about the nazis after the war like shrink heads and human Skin lamps.
#72 - anonymous (11/13/2014) [-]
Well I do not know!
I can say she is definitly not a nazi product in the sense that it was a prdoct sold in stores.
Maybe it is human Skin, maybe even an actualy insane Psychopath nazi did make it.
So maybe you truly got human Skin lamp and maybe it was even made by a nazi in lets say his Garage.
Well for me those would be a few too much maybe's!
#66 - anonymous (11/13/2014) [-]
As if the other shit that happend wasn't already enough to Show that they were wrong.
I do not understand why there was a Need to fake such stuff.
I am rather happy that they lost, but I am angry at the falacity that happens nowadays with most governments not being honest about how they used the nazi Technology and science after the war.
Especially in the biochemical area and medicine.
Well please excuse the many capital letters, I am using for some reason IE atm and the autocorrect Feature fucks me over.
#26 - aabbccddeeffgghhii (11/12/2014) [-]
If anyone says the Wehrmacht were simply 'Nazis,' their full blown retards.
Sure, there were loyal Nazis in there, of course, but Wehrmacht is literally just the German Army.
Like you said the Waffen-SS were the crazy bastards. They'd kill any fucker without remorse. They killed British, French, Americans and basically anyone they captured regardless or race or religion. One example i have is they executed about 90 British Soldiers in cold blood after Dunkirk. And they were all "Aryan" males.
#53 - anonymous (11/13/2014) [-]
Dude, just because someone doesn't know that doesn't make them "full blown retards"
Yes, it would be obvious to anyone who gave enough thought to it, but come on man.
#31 - anonymous (11/12/2014) [-]
Technically there were no nazis in the wehrmacht, as you couldn't be part of a political party while in the wehrmacht.
#195 - thewulfman (11/13/2014) [-]
No, it doesn't. The German Army swore on oath to Hitler in the mid 1930's after Hitler cowed the stormtroopers from gaining too much military power by having the leader of the stormtroopers executed for conspiracy to commit treason (this was actually false though, the leader of the stormtroopers had no plans to kill Hitler and assume power). This was way before the NSDAP ("nazis") geared up into full on evil with the Final Solution.
The stormtroopers were seen a fake-soldiers and bullies, greatly hated by the German Army. By Hitler putting them in their place, it caused the German Army to respect him. Context is really fucking important.
Swearing an oath to Hitler didn't make them nazis any more than Secret Service members swearing an oath to protect the POTUS makes them aligned with a political ideology.
#240 - bateking (11/13/2014) [-]
The Secret service is an elite organization, being in the army however is not. Most of the military is republican, just like most of the German army was Nazi. Being a Nazi was a norm of that period. Also you can bet every high ranking officer was a Nazi. I thought Germans had accepted responsibility and were ready to move on. It seems nowadays you can cheat history by saying my grandpa was in the wermatch (ignoring their war crimes), as if being in the wermatch stopped you from fighting for Hitler or would have stopped you from benefiting if Germany had won. Again if you fight for Nazis, pledge allegiance to Nazis, and benefit from being one of their own (Aryan), you're a Nazi to me.
#241 - thewulfman (11/13/2014) [-]
The only German blood in me is Jewish, and my grandfather's immediate family died in the holocaust. Just for context of where I'm coming from. Today Germans may easily accept a retelling of history that isn't true just so they can move on, but that doesn't make it factually correct. I don't care about "making things easier", I only care about the truth.
You have a fundamental failure to understand what being a Nazi was, and how they rose to power.
One of the biggest misconceptions is that being a member of the NSDAP inherently makes you evil. It was quite simply a political party, which arose from the anger born out of the Treaty of Versailles, which stripped the German Empire of land and forced them to pay war reparations.
Yes, the German Army and civil servants (professors, etc) swore loyalty to Hitler starting in 1934. Everyone did, or they were executed for treason or forced to retire at best. This did not make the entire German Army, or even its officers, members of the NSDAP. Many of them were, mind you, but these are completely separate things.
If the only way you can sleep at night, is to imagine every single German as a monster that had to be killed without remorse, then by all means, continue to be ignorant. But the truth of the matter is that the members of the NSDAP who ordered atrocities to be committed were in the minority, and they were in total control. People saw how bad the NSDAP was getting It was members of the German Army that tried to kill Hitler and remove the NSDAP from power in 1944, but they failed. They had realized what Germany had become and tried to stop it.
If you really think the entire German Army being loyal to the NSDAP makes them "evil Aryan supremacists" then take some time to read up on Erwin Rommel, one of the people behind the plot to kill Hitler.
The German Army didn't "fight for nazis" anymore than the US armed forces fight for the GOP. They fought for their country first, why many of them were there to begin with.
#253 - anonymous (11/16/2014) [-]
People like you are the reason why I am happy that Hitler and the other idiots failed.
#254 - thewulfman (11/16/2014) [-]
People like me? You mean historians? Because that's all I am. I speak truth and not let the propaganda we've been fed get to me.
Just because I don't go "OMG ALL NAZIS WERE SO EVIL" doesn't mean I supported the viewpoints of Hitler and the upper command structure of the NSDAP. In no way was the holocaust justified.
Keep denying the truth if it makes you sleep better at night.
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#29 - odonnell (08/26/2014) [-]
Actually, considering it's cold water, it'll be their drysuit thats providing the buoyancy.
Its recommended that you only use one buoyancy aid at a time (Incase of ascending too quickly and you can't locate the aid quick enough) and since its a drysuit, air will have to be added into it for comfort anyway.
#7 - onceknownsober (08/26/2014) [-]
I have to slightly correct the dear deneios here. While it is true that what you mainly use to regulate your bouyancy is the vest, the thing they use in the gif/video is their suits. Dry suits contain air and without practice you will end up diving with your feet above you, which is pretty goddamn dangerous since you loose control. In the video/gifs they had ice as footing, to make sure they werent over the goddamn place and are probably experienced with diving a lot in dry suits.
Anyway TLR: Diving drysuit fagg here saying: it's the suit and not the vest that is the main source of bouyancy during drysuit dives, and also what enables these kind of upside down moves.
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