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#162 - Why the hell not. I used to make some ****** cont… 10/19/2014 on need more mods like joshlol 0
#74 - "time spent with cats is never wasted" -sigmund freud 10/14/2014 on Have to do Senior Quotes... 0
#94 - No, you're right. Starting isn't that much at all with a bache… 09/21/2014 on dumb ass shit +3
#10 - Psychology major here. I know so many people who go to my coll…  [+] (81 new replies) 09/21/2014 on dumb ass shit +166
#459 - xxxsonic fanxxx (09/22/2014) [-]
"...Put their kids through a college..."

Is it normal to have your parents pay for everything? I hear a lot of "can't afford to send my kid to a good college!" and it just confuses me. I'm paying for my own schooling, why can't other kids?
User avatar #275 - nass (09/21/2014) [-]
As a german , I am really sorry (and concerned) that you have to pay so much for higher education. I mean it. If your parents aren't rich or make big sacrifices, you either get college loan (which isn't really that attractive from what I've heard) or just leave it at all. This is not *hurr durr we europeans are better* thing, I'm just sad that many people from our generation are not able to follow their dream, because they can't afford it.

We are lucky, that you don't have to pay for university here and that there's a student loan called "BAföG" (Bundesausbildungsförderungsgesetz), which grants you 850€ max. per month for living costs based on your and your parents financial situation. The special thing about it is, that you only have to pay half of it back after you finished.

One of the few things where I have the feeling that politicians actually thought and cared about the youth.
User avatar #193 - andWEEEEEEEE (09/21/2014) [-]
like teachers?
User avatar #72 - pkashp (09/21/2014) [-]
I got fucking lucky as balls right off the bat. I'm finishing off the last class right now for your standard Associate's in Computer Science, but I hate it. Nothing convinced me more than CISCO to never ever be any type of admin. My chief at the fire department got me interested in hospital work, and now they pay me $750 a week admittedly, most of that is in mileage reimbursements cause I drive my own car, but that's still damn nice for my age to basically be a glorified delivery boy while they teach me the skills I need to advance.

tl;dr Hospital work is cash, yo
#64 - nahbro (09/21/2014) [-]
some of us aren't American and can pay off our student loans over the course of a single summer
User avatar #30 - amonahan (09/21/2014) [-]
Canada fag here, no secondary education, 20 y/o, making 20/hr or roughly 41K a year atm with room to increase my wage with no ceiling. Lol at schoolfags.
#17 - xxxsonic fanxxx (09/21/2014) [-]
Former psych major here, check your job market and req. schooling cause your about to get buttfucked by uni.
#16 - xxxsonic fanxxx (09/21/2014) [-]
And you don't see the irony in that statement?
#11 - xxxsonic fanxxx (09/21/2014) [-]
Coming from a psychology major....
User avatar #383 - smithforprez (09/22/2014) [-]
psych is okay if youre willing to go to school for fucking decades to get the certs and shit you need to do anything worth money.

Whats the difference between a large pizza and a math major?
A large pizza can feed a family
#371 - xxxsonic fanxxx (09/22/2014) [-]
last i checked my psychiatrist is making quite a lot of money... and thats not counting the thousands i gave him myself
User avatar #351 - mcdzl (09/21/2014) [-]
I was a psychology major and am now paid to go to school to earn my PhD.

Almost every major can be a good choice as long as you play the game right and don't expect to get a job just because you went to class and passed (which everybody assumes and are dead fucking wrong).
Get out of the class, make some connections, get some experience, use your mother fucking resources right, skip the party once or twice to study extra for that one hard test, proof read your papers, and take control of your education.

Red thumb me and cry into your BA in Business idgaf
User avatar #346 - seniorawesomesauce (09/21/2014) [-]
little known fact: eharmony.com and dating sites in general require a lot of psychologists.
User avatar #306 - euchreplayer (09/21/2014) [-]
you'd be surprised what you can do with a psychology degree. A lot of management and cops have psychology degrees. Anything where you mostly have to manage a lot of people it can be highly useful
#285 - zaggystirdust (09/21/2014) [-]
If you're talking about bachelors degree in Psychology, then yeah, you're fucked

But once you get your masters and/or doctorate then you'll be fine out there
#276 - thebignigg (09/21/2014) [-]
#214 - swagbot (09/21/2014) [-]
Happens with most degrees - Computer Science is probably the only strong exception.
User avatar #224 - bagguhsleep (09/21/2014) [-]
strong exception to what?
#227 - swagbot (09/21/2014) [-]
I was saying "Most degrees nowadays are useless (except for their inherent baseline value as a generic 'degree'), with CompSci being the exception, as it can actually get you a real job that pays a salary that you can actually pay your student loans off with."
#269 - xxxsonic fanxxx (09/21/2014) [-]
Don't forget us medics and pharmacology tie ins. You fuckers are always getting injured and always needing our help
User avatar #235 - bagguhsleep (09/21/2014) [-]
Oh, that.

I have trouble reading stuff sometimes.
User avatar #183 - phudgepacker (09/21/2014) [-]
Industrial organizational psychology is one of the fastest growing fields right now and average graduates come of school with job offers paying 60k plus
User avatar #106 - bothemastaofall (09/21/2014) [-]
You can do stuff as a psychologist. FBI profilers are psychologists, yall can do do research, open up a clinic... The possibilities are less than engineering though.
User avatar #94 - darthtiberius (09/21/2014) [-]
No, you're right. Starting isn't that much at all with a bachelors. But I'm doing my Doctorate degree afterwards, average starting for a clinical psychologist is between 70 and 90,000. Industrial psychologists can start at 100g. But yea if you just get bachelors you're not looking at much at all.
User avatar #20 - Sethorein (09/21/2014) [-]
are you saying psych majors don't get employed? Cause I'm in third year and I'm already working in a lab...
User avatar #303 - thepandaking (09/21/2014) [-]
I like how you're getting thumbed down, as if people disagree with your direct witness of you being a currently successful psych major. Like holy shit people on this site sometimes...
User avatar #316 - Sethorein (09/21/2014) [-]
I'm really confused too... Like, first two replies I'm doing great, final reply NOPE.

Is it cause everyone thinks I fell for a troll or something?
#323 - dontread (09/21/2014) [-]
you're just not reading the sarcasm thats present during the internet

regardless of whether you're the best and most payed psych major the general attitude is that psychology is a 2nd tier science.

Same logic as when you're hanging out with friends you can call them dicks or assholes or a bitch. Do you really see them that way to antagonize them like that?
...prolly not but thats just the atmosphere thats present during those social gatherings.

its a satire site. You're posting on a comedy site, did you forget that?
User avatar #325 - Sethorein (09/21/2014) [-]
Wait, we're tiering science now?
#327 - dontread (09/21/2014) [-]
its been tier'd since forever

(both satirically and economically)
User avatar #329 - Sethorein (09/21/2014) [-]
go figure... so who gets #1?
#338 - rastarabbit (09/21/2014) [-]
for a psych major you sure have a hard time understanding what people mean to say...
User avatar #339 - Sethorein (09/21/2014) [-]
>implying psych majors should be able to pick up social cues without access to tone

Bud, we're scientists, not therapists. We're trained to do experiments in controlled environments. In the real world we're no better at reading social cues than the average bear.
#340 - rastarabbit (09/21/2014) [-]
I am a M.Sc in psychology bud, so i get it...
don't take things too seriously on FJ is all
User avatar #342 - Sethorein (09/21/2014) [-]
Neat, which branch didja focus into?
#344 - rastarabbit (09/21/2014) [-]
performance psych
User avatar #345 - Sethorein (09/21/2014) [-]
Neat, what aspect of it are you looking at?
#334 - dontread (09/21/2014) [-]
Well its not rocket science
User avatar #335 - Sethorein (09/21/2014) [-]
But it is neuroscience... That's up there as far as "sciences stupid people say they can't do before they make an incorrect statement about something that may or may not be related to the science they claim they cannot do".

I.E. I ain't no rocket scientist but the way a toaster do toast is different from how a microwave do soup. I ain't no neuroscientist, but 9 times outta 10 when I drink, my body finds a way to keep me warmer than when I'm sober.
#352 - dontread (09/21/2014) [-]
Theres a distinct difference between nuero and psychology

Nuero has plenty of psychology in it while psychology doesn't include most of the stuff you'd need for nueroscience

in all fairness from a general standpoint. Nuero is a straight upgrade to psychology
(one of the most popular majors)

since it goes from studying behavior to studying the biological system that dictates behavior (nervous system/brain)

although since psychologists focus mostly on behavior they do tend to become aware of certain things neuroscientists just glance over in people.

point is neuroscientists are incredibly respected even on the internet.
User avatar #385 - Sethorein (09/22/2014) [-]
in hindsight. I'm not mad at you specifically. I'm mad at the misconceptions associated with my field. Most people think I'm some fuckin' freudian therapist (which is barely even a social science degree) and the rest quote shit from big bang theory at me about classical conditioning. In addition to this shower of... I think we're up to like... 35 red thumbs for not catching... what was it again, sarcasm? From the guy straight up insulting the validity of my field.

To put it bluntly, it's frustrating watching the world lie about your profession and being shit on for defending it.

I'm mad that even the most reasonable of detractors, you, still barely knows anything about it.

So yeah, sorry if I come off as a douche in my last four replies.
User avatar #379 - Sethorein (09/22/2014) [-]
oh and fuckin' newsflash, cognition has told us more about the brain than neuroscience ever has. So yeah, fanciness of physics applied =/= useful results.
#397 - dontread (09/22/2014) [-]
psychology has predated modern neuroscience by a good fair amount.

If they were both around at the same time from the beginning then thats something to be impressed about.
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I said it mostly focuses on behavior.

I also never said it wasn't useful nor did i ever say it was easy to understand something empirical such as behavior compared to quantitative things in science. Working with patterns that can be irrational at times is a lot harder than working with rational patterns.

I was under the impression we were talking/comparing lower level psychology to the higher levels like neuroscience (probably should of been clear on that from the beginning so thats my fault there)

Besides im pretty sure nueroscience LITERALLY means science of the brain so i wouldn't completely advertise psychology as focusing on the brain more like the study of the mind.
(Theres a difference)
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You're right it is a broad term. If you knew that why didn't you specify what specific aspect of it you were in?

If you say psychology its generally assumed clinical practice and such regarding groups and such.
User avatar #399 - Sethorein (09/22/2014) [-]
contemporary cognition isn't that old either. Psychology is one of the youngest sciences if you don't consider the philosophy that predated it as contributing to it... you know... seeing as they were all wrong...

Still doesn't focus mostly on behaviour, there was a big counter behaviour revolution that occured around the 1950's when we realized that associationists couldn't explain a fucktonne of human nature via strict behaviourist principles.

There's no such thing as higher and lower psychology... They all just look at different things. At the end of the day, all science must agree on a single narrative, it is only the way in which that narrative is examined that differs across the fields... so the arbitrary distinction of "high and low sciences" doesn't make sense to me. Is it like, those sciences that rely more on math and less on statistics are more valid or something?

I'm working towards a developmental psychology PhD. We examine the human child from conception to late adolescence. The lab I'm working in examines the effects of pretend play on cognitive development in children as they transition from their toddler to pre-adolescent years and the contrast between regularly developing children and those with autism. Are you claiming that since the basis of the study is the effect of pretend play on cognitive development that this is a behavioural study because a behaviour is involved? Everything barring the purest of math and physics will have some associated behaviour to it...
#411 - dontread (09/22/2014) [-]
its still older than nueroscience (accurate nueroscience anyway) by a good enough amount anyway.

There is a way to see it as higher or lower.
You can look at A and i can look at B

But if i need 10 times as much training and experience to be able to make good interpretations on observations than you do on ur subject then i wouldn't put them on an equal level.

Or we can both be looking at A just in a different way but still the above applies.

Now im not talking about any of ones you mentioned, they all have extensive requirements. Im talking about how i wouldn't compare making a burger at burger king the same as cooking a high class meal as a chef despite them both being meal preparation.

Objectively theres no higher or lower anything (mostly, don't butt in philosophy people)
but Subjectively you can list anything as long as you have some kind of standard.

I guess the most common would be experience and requirements. The higher up the "list" you go the more blurred the lines between them are though.

Science is just interpretations of observable and experimental phenomenon in order to attempt to explain the world around us. What we define as something today can be redefined in the future just by discovering something that wasn't noticed before.
(e.g. Copernicus revolution)

I'd say behavior is a huge part of what you're working on. Bout as far as id go with what info i have at hand though. Behavior is probably one of the best ways for you guys to collect data. Of course that statement barely tells me anything at all for me to even confidently make a statement of my own. (What type of tools are u using to collect data? Are you regularly keep tabs on certain levels of chemicals that are known to dictate behavior like stress or "happiness"?)

Whats wrong with it being a behavioral study anyway? it can be a behavioral study and other things. Mostly doesn't mean JUST. It just means its present in a lot of your work.
User avatar #496 - Sethorein (09/22/2014) [-]
oh jeez forgot you replied... shit these are getting long...

Well you're wrong in assuming one branch requires more training than the other... You might be better off saying fewer people are capable of acquiring the skills necessary to execute one branch better than the other. Still, the scarcity of people capable of doing something doesn't inherently make it "better" in my mind. Betterness is ascribed to the practical application of the different studies and they're all pretty equal with cognition pulling slightly ahead simply by virtue of how much more populated it is than the other fields.

The rest of your comment seemed find... or just an elaboration on the first statement... or something I didn't quite grasp... Oh neat I just read about the copernicus revolution and the frame shift of approach to thought. Immanuel Kant OP, Riot plz nerf.

The issue isn't with behavioural science, it's with the entirety of a very broad field being lumped together with behavioural studies. We analyze behaviour but a behaviourist believes that's all there is to it. Just the input and the output, we ring the bell, the dogs salivate. Every other branch of psychology goes further than that, constructing mental models, looking at biochemistry, thinking of evolutionary adaptiveness... the list goes on. That's why I was bothered by you saying most of psychology is just behavioural research. We aren't just looking at behaviour anymore. We're doing much more than that.
#500 - dontread (09/22/2014) [-]
aha you added in philosophy when i told philosophy people to butt out



for shame
User avatar #501 - Sethorein (09/22/2014) [-]
But... Kant's philosophy was the building block for contemporary psychology! His frame shift of perceiving humans as the source of causal relationships as opposed to causal relationships existing naturally are one of the touchstones by which we note the progression of thinking aimed towards the mind from rational to empirical in nature!
User avatar #377 - Sethorein (09/22/2014) [-]
wait wow, the more I read your reply the more you piss me off.

You think psychology is ONLY behaviourism?! You're serious?! Like, you think B.F. Skinner did his little dance around operant conditioning and that is ALL psychology has ever been?

This really fuckin' annoys me. We're a B.Sc. for a reason, most of us are essentially dual bio and psych majors. The only difference between a psychologist and a biologist is that we decided to specialize in the brain while biologists focus on doing fucking assays of DNA from random fuckin' bacteria to cure cancer.

God... the righteous hand of funnyjunk might be annoyed with me for defending my fucking profession but my god, you kids have a warped view of an entire field of science. Lemme guess, you think sociology is unempirical too, eh?
User avatar #374 - Sethorein (09/22/2014) [-]
Psychology is a very fuckin' broad term.

It refers to behaviourist, cognitive psychologists, neuroscientists, evolutionary psychologist, and literally every other study that revolves around the nervous system.

I think the only exception is Psychiatry which is under the medical profession heading.
User avatar #372 - Sethorein (09/22/2014) [-]
A Neuroscientist is PhD in Psychology so yeah...
User avatar #477 - harshy (09/22/2014) [-]
so you're what OP was thinking when he wrote the title
User avatar #488 - Sethorein (09/22/2014) [-]
Oh boy, you caught me. Of course, the employed and successful science major is the guy that OP was thinking of when he made a piece of content describing people with stupid fucking degrees.
User avatar #505 - harshy (09/22/2014) [-]
i said wrote the title, "dumb ass shit"
User avatar #508 - Sethorein (09/22/2014) [-]
... and my comment just flew right over your head, eh...
User avatar #509 - harshy (09/22/2014) [-]
What does your major have to do with you being dumb ass shit?
User avatar #472 - bronybox (09/22/2014) [-]
No, a neuroscientist is a Ph.D in Neuroscience.
User avatar #473 - Sethorein (09/22/2014) [-]
Fair, Bachelor's and Masters in Psychology.
User avatar #474 - bronybox (09/22/2014) [-]
OR.... OR....
It's a Bachelor's and Master's in neuroscience?

I know you could probably go from a B.S. in Psychology to a M.S. in Neuroscience, but I'm not sure about M.S. in Psychology to a Ph.D in Neuroscience.

Could be, I'm kind of interested to know as to how interchangeable
(or, rather, how not interchangeable) the two actually are.
User avatar #490 - Sethorein (09/22/2014) [-]
Not at my Uni. We have a department of psychology that hosts every single psych specialty.

In reality we're both wrong, the degrees just say B. Sc. They don't specify department.
#25 - xxxsonic fanxxx (09/21/2014) [-]
They call them labs? I thought only science majors had labs
User avatar #26 - Sethorein (09/21/2014) [-]
>implying psych research doesn't do experiments and function under the same empirical measures as other sciences.

Bud, we're a B. Sc. for a reason.
User avatar #479 - bronybox (09/22/2014) [-]
You can also get a B.A. and M.A. in psychology though...
It just kind of depends what you want to do with a psychology degree.

B.A. Psych is for people not pursuing jobs in the field of psychology, but things like law, political science, counseling, etc.

B.S. Psych is for bullshit ayyy lmoa people that want to go into clinical psychology, experimental psychology, etc. Basically jobs in the field.
User avatar #483 - Sethorein (09/22/2014) [-]
Also, that further supports my point about how fuckin' broad psychology is.
User avatar #482 - Sethorein (09/22/2014) [-]


You called the more empirically validated of the two the bullshit one. This upsets me.
User avatar #487 - bronybox (09/22/2014) [-]
Well, it's the one that fits the acronym, no other reason.

Chill out, don't feel like I'm attacking you or something, I'm planning on getting B.S. in psych and going into either clinical or experimental. I'm just pointing things out.
User avatar #493 - Sethorein (09/22/2014) [-]
You can understand why I'm a bit twitchy. I've been attacked all day for my comments, I'm still being attacked by our friend harsh.

Which branch of experimental psych interests you? Developmental, evolutionary, social, neuro, cognitive, behavioural, any combination of the above?
#44 - xxxsonic fanxxx (09/21/2014) [-]
*B. s. S. Bachelor in soft Science
User avatar #47 - Sethorein (09/21/2014) [-]
uhhh... Do you actually think that's what it says on our degrees? Or are you just 7?
User avatar #475 - bronybox (09/22/2014) [-]
Because it's an especially stupid question.
User avatar #484 - Sethorein (09/22/2014) [-]
r00d
User avatar #489 - bronybox (09/22/2014) [-]
It's true. I mean, clearly he doesn't actually think it's a B.s.S., people aren't that retarded, especially if they're clearly capable of intelligent/literate writing. Don't expect a zebra when you hear the sound of hooves. unless you're in Africa
User avatar #494 - Sethorein (09/22/2014) [-]
I tend not to assume intelligence until it is proven. Seeing as this guy made several incorrect statements prior to this one I figured it was just yet more evidence of his lack of understanding of how the world works.

Apparently I was wrong according to the powers that be.
User avatar #317 - Sethorein (09/21/2014) [-]
Anyone wanna clarify what was bad about this comment that wasn't present in my other two replies?
User avatar #271 - angelodlt (09/21/2014) [-]
it was a joke
we forgive you
User avatar #273 - Sethorein (09/21/2014) [-]
the thumbing on this thread is really confusing...
#19 - xxxsonic fanxxx (09/21/2014) [-]
aeronautics engineer master race
User avatar #13 - MrMustacho (09/21/2014) [-]
hmm hmm that's is very interesting, that'll be one million dollars
see you next week
#365 - exotic (09/21/2014) [-]
User avatar #319 - Sethorein (09/21/2014) [-]
psych major =/= therapist. :I
User avatar #14 - nyuORlucy (09/21/2014) [-]
if only it worked like that
#15 - niceeeeee 09/03/2014 on 6 years in the making +7
#109 - The "can't forget anything" thing is called Hypermne… 08/26/2014 on Weird People 0
#1074 - I think I'll do just fine. 08/06/2014 on Roll your shit 0
#1068 - **darthtiberius rolls 31**  [+] (1 new reply) 08/06/2014 on Roll your shit 0
#1074 - darthtiberius (08/06/2014) [-]
I think I'll do just fine.
#38 - Then i am wrong. Alas  [+] (2 new replies) 08/04/2014 on i heard smooth things are in +5
#53 - Jctomlinson (08/04/2014) [-]
I literally did not read any of the conversation prior to this comment. This comment alone earns you a thumb.
Gif unrelated.
#41 - blueninja (08/04/2014) [-]
bravo
#35 - Crazy fact? if Earth was that size, it would be smoother. The …  [+] (9 new replies) 08/04/2014 on i heard smooth things are in +2
#49 - xxxsonic fanxxx (08/04/2014) [-]
the sphere is actually smoother, if it were the earths size the highest peak and the deepest crevice would be about 14m apart

source: www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZMByI4s-D-Y
#46 - jtblip (08/04/2014) [-]
Not true. "If this were the earth then the highest mountain and the lowest valley would be about 14 meters apart."

Sauce:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMByI4s-D-Y

1:02 seconds in.
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#40 - skatin (08/04/2014) [-]
Crazy fact: If earth was that size, humans would be much smaller.
User avatar #43 - swimmingprodigy (08/04/2014) [-]
Thank you Based Black Science Man
User avatar #36 - afrodemon (08/04/2014) [-]
actually that is wrong, if that ball was as big as earth, the distance between the tallest mountain and the lowest valley would be 14 meters
User avatar #38 - darthtiberius (08/04/2014) [-]
Then i am wrong. Alas
#53 - Jctomlinson (08/04/2014) [-]
I literally did not read any of the conversation prior to this comment. This comment alone earns you a thumb.
Gif unrelated.
#41 - blueninja (08/04/2014) [-]
bravo
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#3 - Tortellini (04/28/2011) [-]
I think it might be a fail post though :/
User avatar #4 to #3 - darthtiberius (04/28/2011) [-]
lol its cool. everyone has bad posts. just learn from them :p
#2 - Tortellini (04/28/2011) [-]
Hey it's me Torin. It's cool to find you on FJ. I finally made a post. Are you happy now?
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