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#67 - timezones. 09/26/2016 on Thank you 0
#89 - Because the paperwork is so much more important than the *****…  [+] (14 replies) 09/26/2016 on COPS vs BIKER WITH A GUN!!! +13
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#108 - Airmanator (09/26/2016) [-]
IamWhoIam / kwanzalord / missilekid

I'll go down with my thumbs, but I do not believe in police being able to disarm the citizenry. In my state, to open carry a handgun signifies that you have the paperwork for it and you're not required to show such information anyways. The police have to respect your person, but that's not to say they always do.

I hate the BLM, but also the overreach of the police.
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#127 - IamWhoIam (09/26/2016) [-]
The cops literally say "I'm glad you're carrying, you should" they disarmed him for the safety of everyone. They gave it back. No problems. I'd rather not get shot because I refuse to let an officer disarm me. Also in my state you ARE required to show such information if they ASK which they DID.
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#131 - Airmanator (09/26/2016) [-]
I'm sorry, but I don't panic when I see a firearm. I understand the police officers must be cautious because when dealing with the public, a minority of the population will cause trouble. However disarming a citizen to be sure they're not up to no good on the assumption they may be up to no good doesn't sit right with me.


I see that I was wrong and my information was out of date; you would have to provide a license if you open carried in my state. However, taking a citizen's firearm is still detainment/seizure, albeit only temporarily until returned. But....You've already made up your mind and I've already made up mine.
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#136 - IamWhoIam (09/26/2016) [-]
I also don't panic, but other people do. If I see another person with a weapon I don't give it a second thought. If anything I'd try to strike up a conservation with it about them, how they like it, what it fires, stuff like that. But stereotypical soccer moms? They freak out, and we both know it. People freaking out about weapons escalates the situation because suddenly everyone around realizes you have a tool that could end their life at the squeeze of a finger.

I'm OK with open carrying handguns, but if you need to go to McDonalds with your AR 15 slung you might have a bit of a problem. I personally conceal, because then people only need to know I have a weapon if they have to. Also if (rarely) I encounter an officer when I'm carrying I make sure to make it known that I'm armed, so they can go about making sure everything's good. If they need want to disarm me for both of our safety for the duration of the stop that's fine. I can see why people like you don't like that, but to me it makes me feel more safe knowing I wont catch one for reaching into my pocket, having my watch catch my shirt, and they see that I have a handgun right next to my hand.

That's the thing about firearm rights too, it should be our choice. If you don't want to be disarmed during a traffic stop don't make it known, they only need to see your information if you make it known or if they see it (at least in my state.)

Now that I've said what I needed to, what do you everyday carry?
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#143 - Airmanator (09/26/2016) [-]
I wouldn't say I carry, though I do keep a P-64 for accessibility in places for reasons.

Though I'm a member of the GoA so my stance on gun rights is pretty much "Leave me alone, mind your own business." I understand if that makes many people uncomfortable.
#178 - IamWhoIam (09/26/2016) [-]
I carry a P320 Compact almost daily. I'm also not a member of the GoA or NRA.
#179 - Airmanator (09/26/2016) [-]
That's fine.

I mention I'm in the GoA to explain my position on the subject but I understand if you disagree.
#182 - IamWhoIam (09/27/2016) [-]
Totally understand, but like I said it should be personal choice. I chose to let them know I have a weapon for my own safety.

I should probably join the NRA and GoA, I probably will this summer. I'm also looking at getting an M1 Garand from the CMP.
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#184 - Airmanator (09/27/2016) [-]
Oh certainly, it's fair to announce that you have a firearm, its location and not to make any moves for it. That we can agree on.
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#125 - kwanzalord (09/26/2016) [-]
Literally everything you wrote is stereotypical "I HATE THE GOVERNNMENT!" redneck talk.

Like how you squeezed in BLM in there...for absolutely no reason. I don't understand how BLM fits the topic what so ever.

Next, I am pro-gun. I think that everyone should own one, be able use it for self defense, and use it should the government become so corrupt that overthrowing it is the only means of restoring some order.

Now, let's get to why your comment is a bit ridiculous.
So let's say you're out walking in the woods (just making a scenario where you're alone). So some guy comes up to you, and he's visibly carrying a gun. The thing is, you have no idea if he's carrying that gun legally or illegally. He claims he's out for a stroll but you don't know if he's an every day citizen or he's a criminal. You wouldn't be care free, you'd be cautious. And that's exactly what the police officer did.

There is literally ONLY ONE REASON in which you should fight police form disarming you. And that's if you are trying to over throw your government. This is also the only real reason why we have the right to bear arms.

One last thing. Your argument is "but the law says" or "that's against the law".
Yes, it's against the law for criminals to own guns. By law you need paperwork to have a gun. Just because someone carries a handgun, it does not mean that they have the paper work or that they are legally holding it.

#126 - Airmanator (09/26/2016) [-]
"Like how you squeezed in BLM in there...for absolutely no reason. I don't understand how BLM fits the topic what so ever. "

A poster responded that he was disarmed because he was black, and the content is referenced the shooting in North Carolina of which the BLM is protesting. If there's anyone stupid here, it's you. I'm just stating that the man has rights regardless of his skin color.

Beyond that, you're free to disagree. I see men with sidearms displayed on their belt of carrying concealed and I'm not the least bit worried, because in my area that's common. However if a police officer has to disarm you in order to deal with you, that doesn't sit well with me. You DO NOT need paperwork to own a gun in all states,a nd in my state it is IMPLIED that if you are open carrying, you have a concealed carry permit, and do not have to show an officer if they ask for it.

I most certainly do not hate the government, but I don't implicitly trust every facet of it.
#174 - kwanzalord (09/26/2016) [-]
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#176 - Airmanator (09/26/2016) [-]
It depends on jurisdiction. Typically, cops disarm you because "officer safety" with or without cause, and the courts don't care because officer safety > your constitutional rights.

You're free to disagree but understand that not everyone enjoys a good dicking from authoritarianism. I'm not arduing FIGHTING the police, but merely standing up for yourself. Disarming a citizen only shows that the person you're supposed to rely on, doesn't have any trust.
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#86 - Oh ****, I made that Pepe! Someone's using my Pepe!  [+] (3 replies) 09/26/2016 on COPS vs BIKER WITH A GUN!!! +8
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#180 - nerozerohero (09/26/2016) [-]
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#80 - I'm guessing Mr. Meaty It was Nickelodeon for a short time…  [+] (1 reply) 09/25/2016 on TOP impressions +2
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#94 - xxvampirepriestxx (09/25/2016) [-]
I remember Mr. Meaty. All too well. I always wondered even as a child who the fuck gave that show the green light.
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