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#38 - He is such a cool guy, this way of thinking is such a cool way…  [+] (3 replies) 11/19/2015 on Vlad -1
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#68 - failtolawl (11/19/2015) [-]
I really hope you aren't the same person who calls liberals cucks because that is exactly what you are sounding like.
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#86 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
Considering I never in my life have generalized the sympathiser of any political party, it probably wasn't me. I would also assume that someone that gives shit to liberals wouldn't say such things for Putin, considering the russian president stands for most thing liberals are against. Or you didn't get the sarcasm of my original post?
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#57 - jettom (11/19/2015) [-]
We can only hope.
#184 - Ok, not your numbers, but still true. And if you are …  [+] (10 replies) 11/18/2015 on (untitled) 0
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#185 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
no your right those who have a worth and can prove said worth can come over. as ive said. those who want to be handed things and act like little shits cant. which has been demonstrated as a majority of the refugees
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#186 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
I don't really think that most of them are demanding assholes. I mean, how can you be a demanding asshole that all your life you were barely able to demand to stay alive. They just need some control and guidance. I've never said that they will magically start being important part of society, or that it will be easy for us. What I'm saying is that we can help them become one. And I'm really glad that the current world leaders think so too.
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#187 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
i dont think its worth the risk right now. syria only popped up on our radar in the past five ten years at most it had to have been decent before then. if you want to use asia as a baseline we do exactly what we did with them tear them down and build them back up. right now they are unskilled workers flooding over into places that dont want them. many of the countries theyve ended up have said we dont want you here go back. the hungarian prime minister had a good point. theres no war in turkey, turkey is safe. theres no reason for you to keep going after that
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#188 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
Well, I think a few hundreds thousands human lives saved is worth this risk. Especially considering that the risk you are talking about is that some of them may be Isis, when the actual Isis that performed the massacre in France were already EU citizens. Or maybe we should box all the currently living in Europe muslims in camps, because history has never frowned upon such actions..
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#189 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
who cares if its frowned upon if it works
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#190 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
Because their is a reason to be frowned upon. Because it creates suffering, hate and it's worse in the long run. If we just bring back all the muslim people back in their countries to die, we are only making it easier for the jihadists to recruit, terrorize and basically win.
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#191 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
im sorry but that is pretty stupid. and anyone who would radicilize because of that deserves just as bad as the radicals. if you are told you cant come in and decide to join the reason you left in the first place you really didnt disagree with them that much did you?
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#192 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
Well, when your only hope is gone, you've given the choice - to die or to join the bad guys. Very few people will chose the death. Also, don't we have organizations like AA because some people need help to get back on the right path and become a functioning member of society?
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#193 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
i dont think alcaholics anonymous helps rapists who want to follow shiria law. and theres always the option of fighting. why not try that. why not say hey this is my home and if you want to take it im taking a few with me. if all of the syrian refugees did that isis wouldnt be much of the problem. a vast majority of refugees are men if memory serves.
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#194 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
What? Are you seriously saying that an army of thousands that had training and weapons support from America, Russia or god knows where, and is currently financing itself selling petrol, is going to be crushed by a few thousand unarmed untrained civilians with no organization and no inspiration? How would that work?
#182 - I think you gave a lot of numbers here. Seriously at…  [+] (12 replies) 11/18/2015 on (untitled) 0
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#183 - sketchE (11/18/2015) [-]
you linked me to someone elses comment you do realize that right?

and no potential economic growth by bringing in unskilled workers is not worth a single life to me. and we do need to do something about all the niggers. theyre making all the respectable black people who are doing the right thing look bad. thats not happening with the refugees. not muslims not arabs the refugees. the people who are flooding into europe and acting like a bunch of dickwaffles by every single account. you see the difference here? in WW2 we didnt deport japanese we didnt murder them at home. hell we let them join the army and go fight in europe.

your argument is speculation based on a very different culture that beleives in working hard to the point that their population is having issues. i will be the first to tell you to not underestimate a terrorists ingenuity but do not compare them to countries that have been royally fucked over their history and still have a massive power base
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#184 - dantemp (11/18/2015) [-]
Ok, not your numbers, but still true.

And if you are able to differentiate "niggers" from "respectable black people" please do that for the refugees. Because it's exactly the same thing - people of a certain group getting a real bad name because of the bad apples among them. If it's that easy, go win a nobel prize, I'd be first in line to bring flowers.
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#185 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
no your right those who have a worth and can prove said worth can come over. as ive said. those who want to be handed things and act like little shits cant. which has been demonstrated as a majority of the refugees
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#186 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
I don't really think that most of them are demanding assholes. I mean, how can you be a demanding asshole that all your life you were barely able to demand to stay alive. They just need some control and guidance. I've never said that they will magically start being important part of society, or that it will be easy for us. What I'm saying is that we can help them become one. And I'm really glad that the current world leaders think so too.
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#187 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
i dont think its worth the risk right now. syria only popped up on our radar in the past five ten years at most it had to have been decent before then. if you want to use asia as a baseline we do exactly what we did with them tear them down and build them back up. right now they are unskilled workers flooding over into places that dont want them. many of the countries theyve ended up have said we dont want you here go back. the hungarian prime minister had a good point. theres no war in turkey, turkey is safe. theres no reason for you to keep going after that
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#188 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
Well, I think a few hundreds thousands human lives saved is worth this risk. Especially considering that the risk you are talking about is that some of them may be Isis, when the actual Isis that performed the massacre in France were already EU citizens. Or maybe we should box all the currently living in Europe muslims in camps, because history has never frowned upon such actions..
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#189 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
who cares if its frowned upon if it works
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#190 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
Because their is a reason to be frowned upon. Because it creates suffering, hate and it's worse in the long run. If we just bring back all the muslim people back in their countries to die, we are only making it easier for the jihadists to recruit, terrorize and basically win.
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#191 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
im sorry but that is pretty stupid. and anyone who would radicilize because of that deserves just as bad as the radicals. if you are told you cant come in and decide to join the reason you left in the first place you really didnt disagree with them that much did you?
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#192 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
Well, when your only hope is gone, you've given the choice - to die or to join the bad guys. Very few people will chose the death. Also, don't we have organizations like AA because some people need help to get back on the right path and become a functioning member of society?
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#193 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
i dont think alcaholics anonymous helps rapists who want to follow shiria law. and theres always the option of fighting. why not try that. why not say hey this is my home and if you want to take it im taking a few with me. if all of the syrian refugees did that isis wouldnt be much of the problem. a vast majority of refugees are men if memory serves.
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#194 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
What? Are you seriously saying that an army of thousands that had training and weapons support from America, Russia or god knows where, and is currently financing itself selling petrol, is going to be crushed by a few thousand unarmed untrained civilians with no organization and no inspiration? How would that work?
#180 - First of all, Snowden being a traitor is an unpopular opinion,…  [+] (14 replies) 11/18/2015 on (untitled) 0
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#181 - sketchE (11/18/2015) [-]
um i didnt actually give any numbers. do you have any idea what youre talking about? seriously defend your point instead of trying to shoot holes in mine.

my argument is during WW2 we didnt treat the japanese very well. we treated them better after. that is what i expect to happen to muslims and arabs. the government will treat them like people but will keep a closer eye
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#182 - dantemp (11/18/2015) [-]
/Untitled/funny-pictures/5742863/170#170

I think you gave a lot of numbers here. Seriously at least remember what you've said.
And all the bad treatment of the Japanese during WWII is seriously looked down upon. Imagine how many bright minds didn't come to America because of it. And this specific argument is very easy - more people means more workers, inventors, entrepreneurs. Some people are joking that the current attacks in Europe are actually against the German National Team because of the devastation against Brazil recently. If Hitler had his way stars like Khedira, Özil and Boateng would never helped them. And the argument against that would probably be "but we are just talking about the muslims now". But the problems is once you decide to isolate a large group of people because there are small percentage of bad people among them, where do you stop? When will someone say "Wait, why are we so tolerant to the fucking niggers, they commit most of the crimes, let's just kick them out". If you consider yourself one of the good guys, you always do the right thing, not only when it's convenient to you. Shutting off thousands of people because of a few dozens terrorist is wrong.
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#183 - sketchE (11/18/2015) [-]
you linked me to someone elses comment you do realize that right?

and no potential economic growth by bringing in unskilled workers is not worth a single life to me. and we do need to do something about all the niggers. theyre making all the respectable black people who are doing the right thing look bad. thats not happening with the refugees. not muslims not arabs the refugees. the people who are flooding into europe and acting like a bunch of dickwaffles by every single account. you see the difference here? in WW2 we didnt deport japanese we didnt murder them at home. hell we let them join the army and go fight in europe.

your argument is speculation based on a very different culture that beleives in working hard to the point that their population is having issues. i will be the first to tell you to not underestimate a terrorists ingenuity but do not compare them to countries that have been royally fucked over their history and still have a massive power base
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#184 - dantemp (11/18/2015) [-]
Ok, not your numbers, but still true.

And if you are able to differentiate "niggers" from "respectable black people" please do that for the refugees. Because it's exactly the same thing - people of a certain group getting a real bad name because of the bad apples among them. If it's that easy, go win a nobel prize, I'd be first in line to bring flowers.
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#185 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
no your right those who have a worth and can prove said worth can come over. as ive said. those who want to be handed things and act like little shits cant. which has been demonstrated as a majority of the refugees
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#186 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
I don't really think that most of them are demanding assholes. I mean, how can you be a demanding asshole that all your life you were barely able to demand to stay alive. They just need some control and guidance. I've never said that they will magically start being important part of society, or that it will be easy for us. What I'm saying is that we can help them become one. And I'm really glad that the current world leaders think so too.
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#187 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
i dont think its worth the risk right now. syria only popped up on our radar in the past five ten years at most it had to have been decent before then. if you want to use asia as a baseline we do exactly what we did with them tear them down and build them back up. right now they are unskilled workers flooding over into places that dont want them. many of the countries theyve ended up have said we dont want you here go back. the hungarian prime minister had a good point. theres no war in turkey, turkey is safe. theres no reason for you to keep going after that
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#188 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
Well, I think a few hundreds thousands human lives saved is worth this risk. Especially considering that the risk you are talking about is that some of them may be Isis, when the actual Isis that performed the massacre in France were already EU citizens. Or maybe we should box all the currently living in Europe muslims in camps, because history has never frowned upon such actions..
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#189 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
who cares if its frowned upon if it works
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#190 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
Because their is a reason to be frowned upon. Because it creates suffering, hate and it's worse in the long run. If we just bring back all the muslim people back in their countries to die, we are only making it easier for the jihadists to recruit, terrorize and basically win.
User avatar
#191 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
im sorry but that is pretty stupid. and anyone who would radicilize because of that deserves just as bad as the radicals. if you are told you cant come in and decide to join the reason you left in the first place you really didnt disagree with them that much did you?
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#192 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
Well, when your only hope is gone, you've given the choice - to die or to join the bad guys. Very few people will chose the death. Also, don't we have organizations like AA because some people need help to get back on the right path and become a functioning member of society?
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#193 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
i dont think alcaholics anonymous helps rapists who want to follow shiria law. and theres always the option of fighting. why not try that. why not say hey this is my home and if you want to take it im taking a few with me. if all of the syrian refugees did that isis wouldnt be much of the problem. a vast majority of refugees are men if memory serves.
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#194 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
What? Are you seriously saying that an army of thousands that had training and weapons support from America, Russia or god knows where, and is currently financing itself selling petrol, is going to be crushed by a few thousand unarmed untrained civilians with no organization and no inspiration? How would that work?
#178 - ... wait, is it not evident what they will provide for us? I t…  [+] (16 replies) 11/17/2015 on (untitled) 0
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#179 - sketchE (11/18/2015) [-]
bruh, snowdens a traitor. you dont even know my argument and have made no attempt to back up your own. and the numbers i gave you were innocents killed and if the only thing they can provide is more dead innocents then yes i dont want them here
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#180 - dantemp (11/18/2015) [-]
First of all, Snowden being a traitor is an unpopular opinion, the same way "fuck the refugees" is the popular one.
Second of all, I was talking about the numbers you gave me of foreign born american scientists.
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#181 - sketchE (11/18/2015) [-]
um i didnt actually give any numbers. do you have any idea what youre talking about? seriously defend your point instead of trying to shoot holes in mine.

my argument is during WW2 we didnt treat the japanese very well. we treated them better after. that is what i expect to happen to muslims and arabs. the government will treat them like people but will keep a closer eye
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#182 - dantemp (11/18/2015) [-]
/Untitled/funny-pictures/5742863/170#170

I think you gave a lot of numbers here. Seriously at least remember what you've said.
And all the bad treatment of the Japanese during WWII is seriously looked down upon. Imagine how many bright minds didn't come to America because of it. And this specific argument is very easy - more people means more workers, inventors, entrepreneurs. Some people are joking that the current attacks in Europe are actually against the German National Team because of the devastation against Brazil recently. If Hitler had his way stars like Khedira, Özil and Boateng would never helped them. And the argument against that would probably be "but we are just talking about the muslims now". But the problems is once you decide to isolate a large group of people because there are small percentage of bad people among them, where do you stop? When will someone say "Wait, why are we so tolerant to the fucking niggers, they commit most of the crimes, let's just kick them out". If you consider yourself one of the good guys, you always do the right thing, not only when it's convenient to you. Shutting off thousands of people because of a few dozens terrorist is wrong.
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#183 - sketchE (11/18/2015) [-]
you linked me to someone elses comment you do realize that right?

and no potential economic growth by bringing in unskilled workers is not worth a single life to me. and we do need to do something about all the niggers. theyre making all the respectable black people who are doing the right thing look bad. thats not happening with the refugees. not muslims not arabs the refugees. the people who are flooding into europe and acting like a bunch of dickwaffles by every single account. you see the difference here? in WW2 we didnt deport japanese we didnt murder them at home. hell we let them join the army and go fight in europe.

your argument is speculation based on a very different culture that beleives in working hard to the point that their population is having issues. i will be the first to tell you to not underestimate a terrorists ingenuity but do not compare them to countries that have been royally fucked over their history and still have a massive power base
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#184 - dantemp (11/18/2015) [-]
Ok, not your numbers, but still true.

And if you are able to differentiate "niggers" from "respectable black people" please do that for the refugees. Because it's exactly the same thing - people of a certain group getting a real bad name because of the bad apples among them. If it's that easy, go win a nobel prize, I'd be first in line to bring flowers.
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#185 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
no your right those who have a worth and can prove said worth can come over. as ive said. those who want to be handed things and act like little shits cant. which has been demonstrated as a majority of the refugees
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#186 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
I don't really think that most of them are demanding assholes. I mean, how can you be a demanding asshole that all your life you were barely able to demand to stay alive. They just need some control and guidance. I've never said that they will magically start being important part of society, or that it will be easy for us. What I'm saying is that we can help them become one. And I'm really glad that the current world leaders think so too.
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#187 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
i dont think its worth the risk right now. syria only popped up on our radar in the past five ten years at most it had to have been decent before then. if you want to use asia as a baseline we do exactly what we did with them tear them down and build them back up. right now they are unskilled workers flooding over into places that dont want them. many of the countries theyve ended up have said we dont want you here go back. the hungarian prime minister had a good point. theres no war in turkey, turkey is safe. theres no reason for you to keep going after that
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#188 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
Well, I think a few hundreds thousands human lives saved is worth this risk. Especially considering that the risk you are talking about is that some of them may be Isis, when the actual Isis that performed the massacre in France were already EU citizens. Or maybe we should box all the currently living in Europe muslims in camps, because history has never frowned upon such actions..
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#189 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
who cares if its frowned upon if it works
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#190 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
Because their is a reason to be frowned upon. Because it creates suffering, hate and it's worse in the long run. If we just bring back all the muslim people back in their countries to die, we are only making it easier for the jihadists to recruit, terrorize and basically win.
User avatar
#191 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
im sorry but that is pretty stupid. and anyone who would radicilize because of that deserves just as bad as the radicals. if you are told you cant come in and decide to join the reason you left in the first place you really didnt disagree with them that much did you?
User avatar
#192 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
Well, when your only hope is gone, you've given the choice - to die or to join the bad guys. Very few people will chose the death. Also, don't we have organizations like AA because some people need help to get back on the right path and become a functioning member of society?
User avatar
#193 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
i dont think alcaholics anonymous helps rapists who want to follow shiria law. and theres always the option of fighting. why not try that. why not say hey this is my home and if you want to take it im taking a few with me. if all of the syrian refugees did that isis wouldnt be much of the problem. a vast majority of refugees are men if memory serves.
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#194 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
What? Are you seriously saying that an army of thousands that had training and weapons support from America, Russia or god knows where, and is currently financing itself selling petrol, is going to be crushed by a few thousand unarmed untrained civilians with no organization and no inspiration? How would that work?
#174 - These numbers are astronomical, and are not even including fir…  [+] (2 replies) 11/17/2015 on (untitled) 0
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#175 - akkere (11/17/2015) [-]
I never suggested oversaturation was a bad thing. I suggested oversaturation implies the research laboratories wouldn't be empty because we don't have foreign labor in the science departments, when we have a clear proportion of graduate students who are US born here that would easily claim those jobs.

"people wanted all asians out of America because of pearl harbo(u)r, had they done that America's position now would be that much worse"
Probably not that comparatively worse, all things considered. We would never maintain the anti-Asian sentiment because if we did, businesses that so much as touched China with a 10-foot pole would be negatively impacted by the disincentive. If that happened, China remains a much more impoverished country than it is now thanks to lack of developing industry.
Besides, it's asinine to suggest only Asians are the foreign-born minds that come here in the first place. Lots of people from the Carribean for example came here to become Engineers, Scientists, and later the platform for minority STEM education platform. Shutting out the Asians means more jobs and opportunities for them.

If you're going to keep putting your entire point on "UHH, ASIANS ARE SMART", without any substance, stop posting. You bitch to literally everyone who replied to you about not putting up substance, and now you're spouting the same hollow sense.
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#176 - dantemp (11/17/2015) [-]
If you shut off Asians because some of them are dangerous you will do the same for any other. It will be much worse. You did not made that mistake and I don't see why we (Europe) should do it now. And you can claim that my point is hollow and is based on whatever, I can ignore personal attacks and will not be the same dick to you.
#168 - Yes, I do. Because the same Asians were the same threat 50 yea…  [+] (18 replies) 11/16/2015 on (untitled) 0
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#177 - sketchE (11/17/2015) [-]
and you know what we did? we said hey were at war with you right now you cant come in. you were good to us before and you might be good after but right now we cant trust you because of the hundreds of good people there might be a few bad ones and thats not worth the risk. im not sure if you realise this but japan is still relevent today because we didnt just nuke them and leave them. and that was a country that was willing to fight to the last man woman or child.

but were not talking about asia and were not talking about immigrants. were talking about a proven method of getting isis members into what is supposed to be a safe nation. were talking about more than 100 people being killed because refugees were flooding over and not being properly screened. drop asia dude talk to me and give me one ounce of benefit these people have can or will provide us
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#178 - dantemp (11/17/2015) [-]
... wait, is it not evident what they will provide for us? I thought your argument was "whatever they do it's not worth the risk", not "there is nothing they can do for us", because if it's the latter you just look at the numbers you alone gave me.

Also, if you are saying "better to fuck some good people in order to prevent the bad ones from coming", why are you not approving that policy when it comes to you? Why is Snowden a hero? And in this case you are not even sacrificing your life, but just your privacy, in order to catch the bad people. But when it comes to you it's "whoever sacrifices his freedom for his safety deserves neither", but when it's about someone from outside it's "fuck them some of them are bad people let them all to die outside in the cold".
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#179 - sketchE (11/18/2015) [-]
bruh, snowdens a traitor. you dont even know my argument and have made no attempt to back up your own. and the numbers i gave you were innocents killed and if the only thing they can provide is more dead innocents then yes i dont want them here
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#180 - dantemp (11/18/2015) [-]
First of all, Snowden being a traitor is an unpopular opinion, the same way "fuck the refugees" is the popular one.
Second of all, I was talking about the numbers you gave me of foreign born american scientists.
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#181 - sketchE (11/18/2015) [-]
um i didnt actually give any numbers. do you have any idea what youre talking about? seriously defend your point instead of trying to shoot holes in mine.

my argument is during WW2 we didnt treat the japanese very well. we treated them better after. that is what i expect to happen to muslims and arabs. the government will treat them like people but will keep a closer eye
User avatar
#182 - dantemp (11/18/2015) [-]
/Untitled/funny-pictures/5742863/170#170

I think you gave a lot of numbers here. Seriously at least remember what you've said.
And all the bad treatment of the Japanese during WWII is seriously looked down upon. Imagine how many bright minds didn't come to America because of it. And this specific argument is very easy - more people means more workers, inventors, entrepreneurs. Some people are joking that the current attacks in Europe are actually against the German National Team because of the devastation against Brazil recently. If Hitler had his way stars like Khedira, Özil and Boateng would never helped them. And the argument against that would probably be "but we are just talking about the muslims now". But the problems is once you decide to isolate a large group of people because there are small percentage of bad people among them, where do you stop? When will someone say "Wait, why are we so tolerant to the fucking niggers, they commit most of the crimes, let's just kick them out". If you consider yourself one of the good guys, you always do the right thing, not only when it's convenient to you. Shutting off thousands of people because of a few dozens terrorist is wrong.
User avatar
#183 - sketchE (11/18/2015) [-]
you linked me to someone elses comment you do realize that right?

and no potential economic growth by bringing in unskilled workers is not worth a single life to me. and we do need to do something about all the niggers. theyre making all the respectable black people who are doing the right thing look bad. thats not happening with the refugees. not muslims not arabs the refugees. the people who are flooding into europe and acting like a bunch of dickwaffles by every single account. you see the difference here? in WW2 we didnt deport japanese we didnt murder them at home. hell we let them join the army and go fight in europe.

your argument is speculation based on a very different culture that beleives in working hard to the point that their population is having issues. i will be the first to tell you to not underestimate a terrorists ingenuity but do not compare them to countries that have been royally fucked over their history and still have a massive power base
User avatar
#184 - dantemp (11/18/2015) [-]
Ok, not your numbers, but still true.

And if you are able to differentiate "niggers" from "respectable black people" please do that for the refugees. Because it's exactly the same thing - people of a certain group getting a real bad name because of the bad apples among them. If it's that easy, go win a nobel prize, I'd be first in line to bring flowers.
User avatar
#185 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
no your right those who have a worth and can prove said worth can come over. as ive said. those who want to be handed things and act like little shits cant. which has been demonstrated as a majority of the refugees
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#186 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
I don't really think that most of them are demanding assholes. I mean, how can you be a demanding asshole that all your life you were barely able to demand to stay alive. They just need some control and guidance. I've never said that they will magically start being important part of society, or that it will be easy for us. What I'm saying is that we can help them become one. And I'm really glad that the current world leaders think so too.
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#187 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
i dont think its worth the risk right now. syria only popped up on our radar in the past five ten years at most it had to have been decent before then. if you want to use asia as a baseline we do exactly what we did with them tear them down and build them back up. right now they are unskilled workers flooding over into places that dont want them. many of the countries theyve ended up have said we dont want you here go back. the hungarian prime minister had a good point. theres no war in turkey, turkey is safe. theres no reason for you to keep going after that
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#188 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
Well, I think a few hundreds thousands human lives saved is worth this risk. Especially considering that the risk you are talking about is that some of them may be Isis, when the actual Isis that performed the massacre in France were already EU citizens. Or maybe we should box all the currently living in Europe muslims in camps, because history has never frowned upon such actions..
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#189 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
who cares if its frowned upon if it works
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#190 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
Because their is a reason to be frowned upon. Because it creates suffering, hate and it's worse in the long run. If we just bring back all the muslim people back in their countries to die, we are only making it easier for the jihadists to recruit, terrorize and basically win.
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#191 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
im sorry but that is pretty stupid. and anyone who would radicilize because of that deserves just as bad as the radicals. if you are told you cant come in and decide to join the reason you left in the first place you really didnt disagree with them that much did you?
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#192 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
Well, when your only hope is gone, you've given the choice - to die or to join the bad guys. Very few people will chose the death. Also, don't we have organizations like AA because some people need help to get back on the right path and become a functioning member of society?
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#193 - sketchE (11/19/2015) [-]
i dont think alcaholics anonymous helps rapists who want to follow shiria law. and theres always the option of fighting. why not try that. why not say hey this is my home and if you want to take it im taking a few with me. if all of the syrian refugees did that isis wouldnt be much of the problem. a vast majority of refugees are men if memory serves.
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#194 - dantemp (11/19/2015) [-]
What? Are you seriously saying that an army of thousands that had training and weapons support from America, Russia or god knows where, and is currently financing itself selling petrol, is going to be crushed by a few thousand unarmed untrained civilians with no organization and no inspiration? How would that work?