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#23 - Obama came into office in 2008, literally all of these started…  [+] (2 replies) 09/17/2016 on Thanks Obama +6
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#24 - airmechanic (09/17/2016) [-]
But his claim to fame is that he made it all better, which you can see, he hasn't.
#25 - coruptangel (09/17/2016) [-]
he promised change, he never specified whether it was good or not.
#10 - Why would he be disqualified? I thought it was innocent until …  [+] (68 replies) 09/14/2016 on If Hilary dies its all over +143
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#98 - alfonshister (09/15/2016) [-]
>54 replies

no thanks
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#101 - stickdick (09/15/2016) [-]
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#102 - mamenber (09/15/2016) [-]
#110 - anon (09/15/2016) [-]
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#135 - anon (09/19/2016) [-]
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#112 - mamenber (09/15/2016) [-]
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#34 - daniboyi (09/15/2016) [-]
"innocent until proven guilty."
- funnyjunk.
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#122 - mrdrprofbraeden (09/15/2016) [-]
No double think here, innocent until proven guilty only applies to the eyes of the law. If Hillary was sent to prison without a proper investigation it would be pretty unjust, but we can still be suspicious of her on personal grounds.
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#123 - daniboyi (09/15/2016) [-]
I like to think of it as a mindset as well.
Why believe someone is guilty, if it isn't proven? that is the sole reason why people who are charged with rape, despite proven innocent, faces judgement from others.
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#125 - mrdrprofbraeden (09/15/2016) [-]
yea i agree that's shitty. I thought of that argument and dismissed it because one mainly deals with taking people's word and assuming the worst in people and one takes not of an unusually high correlation between deaths and people who opposed the clintons. I don't particularly think it's conclusive evidence, and I do think people's overall dislike of hillary is clouding their judgement in this regard so you may have a point. The main reason people parrot it is because it's free meme material tho
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#127 - daniboyi (09/15/2016) [-]
Memes are a dangerous weapon one must wield carefully.
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#36 - kurbeh (09/15/2016) [-]
I get what you are saying, but there are like 50 people connected to her that died under "mysterious circumstances" or "commited suicide".
I can bet my first born that she killed atleast one of them.
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#37 - daniboyi (09/15/2016) [-]
Maybe, but innocent until proven 100 % guilty.

I remain neutral on whether she has done it or not. But as long as no one can prove it, nothing can or should be done.
#117 - arkamedies (09/15/2016) [-]
when she condemned Americans to die in Benghazi from terrorists is the day i believed she sits around a throne of her dead victims.
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#118 - daniboyi (09/15/2016) [-]
Tons of presidents have sent americans to die by pointless wars. Should we imprison every one of them?
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#119 - arkamedies (09/15/2016) [-]
tons of presidents also give the green light for reinforcements when American lives are in danger
#95 - randomzdude (09/15/2016) [-]
"The standard that must be met by the prosecution's evidence in a criminal prosecution: that no other logical explanation can be derived from the facts except that the defendant committed the crime, thereby overcoming the presumption that a person is innocent until proven guilty."
#38 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
It's not innocent until proven 100% guilty, you unbelievably dumb cunt. The judge or jury only needs to have no reasonable doubt.
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#58 - captainprincess (09/15/2016) [-]
lack of definitive proof tends to work as reasonable doubt
#59 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
If you don't see the difference between 100% certainty of guilt and guilt beyond reasonable doubt, I don't know what to do with you.
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#60 - captainprincess (09/15/2016) [-]
I didn't know you were supposed to do anything with me
I never got that memo
#61 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
Did I ever imply I was supposed to do something with you? No. I only stated that I didn't know what to do with you.

Do you have any other fucking questions, you fucking cum dumpster? If not, I'd suggest going back to disappointing your parents and loved ones some more.
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#62 - captainprincess (09/15/2016) [-]
yes you did
#63 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
When, where and how?
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#64 - captainprincess (09/15/2016) [-]
You were trying to figure out what to do with me
as I understand it you havent yet gotten any ideas
#65 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
I see. The corollary relation implied by the "if" made you think that I had some kind of preordained duty toward you.

Fucking shit. I always forget that 99.999% of FJ members (everyone except for me) are retarded. I should be more clear and less concise sometimes.

What I meant to say was:

If you think that 100% certainty of guilt is the same as guilt beyond reasonable doubt, then you are a fucking idiot.
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#66 - captainprincess (09/15/2016) [-]
Well Im certain beyond reasonable doubt so

#67 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
Great, now you need to become a judge or convince a jury of eleven other people to agree with you.

Good luck, you motherfucking idiot.
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#68 - captainprincess (09/15/2016) [-]
Did it
Your goin to jail
#69 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
There's a fucking amazing sandbox in the park right next to 212 42nd street. I fucking swear it, mate.
#70 - captainprincess (09/15/2016) [-]
look its you
#71 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
Well, there you have it. Unbelievable. That is me.
#82 - captainprincess (09/15/2016) [-]
I plan on it
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#81 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
You're a funny dude.

Stay cool, princess.
#78 - captainprincess (09/15/2016) [-]
#79 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
Better luck next time.

#76 - captainprincess (09/15/2016) [-]
those are just cardboard boxes dude

haha what a moron
#77 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
Fuck you, man. You were tricking me this whole time.

I actually knew they were cardboard boxes. I was just pretending to be retarded.
#74 - captainprincess (09/15/2016) [-]
ive never been to jail
#75 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
No, but your gay baby cats and parrot have.
#72 - captainprincess (09/15/2016) [-]
Dont be sad
look you get a window
#73 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]

Those are your personal pictures, aren't they?
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#39 - daniboyi (09/15/2016) [-]
That kind of thinking ends with people going to prison even if they are innocent.
Like people being accused of rape and people 'are sure he did it'.

Innocent until proven (and proven does not mean 'I am 75 % sure.') guilty. Any other way will end in problems.
#40 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
Yes. The system sometimes makes innocent people go to jail without them having committed a crime. If there is not one iota of reasonable doubt that they've committed a crime, I'm not sure what else could be done if they are truly innocent.

We try to imprison innocent people as little as possible, but in the end we are human and the legal system is a system designed by humans--not as flawed as humans, but not flawless still.
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#41 - daniboyi (09/15/2016) [-]
And we should try to get rid of those flaws.
Just being ok with flaws is not how humans improve. we should seek to improve faults and flaws in the system.
Especially when it comes to the freedom of people. The judge and jury should always be 100 % sure a person did it, before sending him/her to prison for many years.

As the quote goes "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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#120 - manimator (09/15/2016) [-]
I don't think you can realistically get rid of those flaws without having some sort of God-like omniscience. The only other potentially better system would be something that tests biological changes in a person when they lie about a crime but that is also extremely flawed. Lie detectors can be fooled, people can be coerced or brainwashed or under the influence of substances that prevent them from knowing/remembering, etc. Sometimes you can prove 100% that a person is guilty but those are extremely rare and if you set those standards for everyone you will let a huge amount of violent and potentially violent people roam around to continue their deeds to prevent the roughly 0.1% of wrong convictions.
#54 - skebaba (09/15/2016) [-]
Do you know the biggest flaw you should get rid off first? Private prisons. This leads to insanely harsh punishments for petty crimes and innocent people being sentenced, because they get the more monies the more people are sent there. Thus they befriend judges etc. Justice can NOT happen unless everything is public.
#42 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
Wait... You must be retarded.

You can never prove that a person is 100% guilty. You will always have a certain portion of doubt, no matter how slim. Even if the commission is filmed and the criminal pleads guilty on all accounts, won't a reasonable person still have doubts as to not being privy to the whole story (which could possibly affect what in law is called the principle of causation, and thus shift responsibility either slightly or to a great extent)?

Our system works as perfectly as it can. You are just too ignorant to understand it.

The court starts out with doubt (this in legal term is a corollary of the "habeas corpus")--a prohibited consequence must be presented for the trial to begin, actually. Then, causation must be shown between the actions of the accused and the prohibited consequences (actus reus). Then, the mens rea must be demonstrated--which is extremely difficult, since it is in essence the intention(s) of the accused, which is highly subjective. Finally, if these two (the actus reus and the mens rea), in the absence of other defenses, do not provide the judge and jury with reasonable doubt as to the defendant's guilty, in that case, they are said to have been proven guilty "beyond reasonable doubt".

Do you understand?

The prosecutor has accomplished what was imposed upon them by this incredible standard of burden of proof. In what way is this a flawed system?

The quote that you posted does not apply in this case. Ask any neuro-typical person "Would you rather have criminals who have been investigated and declared guilty beyond reasonable doubt by a jury of their peers to go to jail, or would you rather have everyone who hasn't been proven 100% guilty (everyone, including the worst kind of psychopathic serial killer) to roam the streets?"

I'll bet you a dollar they'll go for the latter.
#55 - skebaba (09/15/2016) [-]
Yes you can. That's why I'm in favor of having CCTV cameras covering every inch. This way you can always prove whether someone did or didn't do something. This will drop false accusations to 0%.
#56 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
Yeah. That's not insane at all.
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#44 - daniboyi (09/15/2016) [-]
Nice going with the insults. Real mature.

And the system does not work perfectly, because innocent people are still sent to prison for crimes they had not committed. Any system that allows this shit to happen is far from perfect and needs to go through change to prevent robbing innocent people from their freedom. So yes, it is a flawed system. It is the best we can have so far, but it still needs improvement and ignoring this is just plain wrong, both logically and morally.

also "declared guilty beyond resonable doubt." because people in the Jury are never biased and will vote with 100 % logic and reasonable thinking.

You call me retarded, but you act like people in the system are some sort of super-logical human being that never lets emotions alter their way of thinking.

The idea of 'reasonable doubt' fails the very moment you introduce humans to make the judgement. If you want it to work, it has to be neutrally calculated by a source incapable of feeling any emotions or form an opinion on their own.
#46 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
"but it still needs improvement and ignoring this is just plain wrong, both logically and morally"

Okay, dumb ass. What is your proposition? How would you, in realistic terms, make the system better?
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#47 - daniboyi (09/15/2016) [-]
Again with the insults. Are you physically incapable of not insulting people, or is it just a bad addiction?

As for a suggestion, I am not an expert, but I still have the full right to state my opinion on the current system. I don't need to make an idea to say 'I don't like how innocent people are sent to prison by mistake, because judge and jury are biased towards certain cases'
#48 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
Yes, you can say "our system isn't perfect". That's incredibly fucking insightful of you, actually, big boy. I only said that it was as perfect as it could ever be.

Until you find a way to make it better, you haven't proven me wrong now, have you?

I earnestly think we have the best system so far. Also, I didn't notice this bit of supreme idiocy: "The idea of 'reasonable doubt' fails the very moment you introduce humans to make the judgement".

Humans are the only things in nature that are capable of making judgments--whether logical or otherwise. You are basically saying that reasonable doubt doesn't exist, when it is in reality the only viable option for a fair system.
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#49 - daniboyi (09/15/2016) [-]
Good for you, you must feel soo great about yourself.
Being the first to write to me, insulting me like some pre-teen egdy kid and then spent the next 40 min telling me 'the system is near perfect! we can never have better! Follow the government and do not argue!"

Seriously, what was your purpose for this? Because I don't see your reasoning. You act like a fedora-tipping atheist arguing about Christianity. Did you really get that big a boner telling me I am wrong?
#133 - anon (09/16/2016) [-]
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#50 - migueldecervantes (09/15/2016) [-]
"Follow the government and do not argue"

Rather, it was: follow a system devised over centuries by the principles of jurisprudence and people infinitely smarter than you, rather than your own judgment.

That was the purpose of this. You can call me a fedora-tipping atheist fag all day and accuse me of getting boners from mentally maiming tardy selection of FJ (I plead guilty as to the latter, by the way), but you still haven't provided me with a better system.

I'll be waiting, friend. I'll be waiting here for you, and for a long time at that I presume.

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#32 - frazn (09/15/2016) [-]
He wouldn't either way. The constitution provides nothing in the case that a felon runs for presidency. The reason is because it was written in a very minimalist way. Even the president himself is removed from office via impeachment/ actual conviction of a high crime.
4chan just likes to fear monger and funnyjunk likes to suck on that teet
The only thing stopping him is that people would likely not vote for him because of it.
#53 - crimsonsapphire (09/15/2016) [-]
Hey! We take what teets we can get our mouths on!
#30 - stanyyy (09/15/2016) [-]
the clintons are above the law
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#14 - biscuitsunited (09/15/2016) [-]
"Whilst investigations are conducted"
Basically, they'll accuse russia of the deed, and due to Trump's friendliness with Moscow will be considered suspect A ploy , and barred for the duration

This investigation wont be quick, it'll take years, and in that time trump will become Public enemy no'1, and obama still hasn't stepped down.
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#121 - arreatface (09/15/2016) [-]
and then everyone stood and clapped

seriously tho what you are saying is insanely stupid, IF the elections were to be suspended for whatever reason, the current president wouldnt stay in the oval office until the case is settled, an interim would be set in place

the circlejerk has gotten to your brain i think
#16 - greyblade (09/15/2016) [-]
Hillary's under investigation and hasn't been barred.
#18 - anon (09/15/2016) [-]
I don't think you understand what being the "Favored One" means.
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#13 - ninesundev (09/15/2016) [-]
By law yes, in public relations you are guilty on accusation, no matter how things turn out in the end.

Someone say you raped a little girl/have child porn on your computer? Ha! Your life is over.
#15 - nekokid (09/15/2016) [-]
except for if yoe deleted 30k emails and are involved and accused of numerous mysterious "suicides" and election frauds and ....

you get my point.
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#35 - ninesundev (09/15/2016) [-]
If you have a leverage on the media things change a bit of course.

If the bad pr doesn't make it to the people it has obviously no effect on them.
#5 - Aren't they mostly nocturnal though? so they would just stay u…  [+] (1 reply) 06/15/2016 on I want a pet raccoon 0
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#19 - phantomonkey (06/15/2016) [-]
By nature, yeah, they're nocturnal. But Nurture > Nature.

If everyone's up and moving around at day, and sleeping at night, it'll do the same.

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