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#15 - what's the point? there is no point in destroying, won't give …  [+] (3 replies) 09/08/2016 on brutal 0
#16 - kiema (09/08/2016) [-]
that guys not special he wont be doing anything that someone else cant do, hes shown that he can do something unspeakable. i dont think that eye for an eye is useful in anyway and i agree he could just be executed but theres no loss for making him suffer/handicapped. if it makes that women feel even slighty better than its completly worth it in my mind.
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#18 - chusmimax (09/08/2016) [-]
i guess it's a valid point. But the search of vengeance won't give in fact anything for anyone, just more pain. I'm not saying she should pardon him, but she should focus her energy in something more rewarding.

Her vision is gone, it's something awful, he was the reason, but it is one of those things that will get worse the more you think about it. It is in fact difficult, but she should focus her energy in something more rewarding.

Also, i don't feel really confident about giving goverment the right to kill, after all, not always do goverments use rightfully their powers (a goverment can always corrupt itself)
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#27 - ciacheczko (09/08/2016) [-]
Mate, it's not just the vision. A pretty-looking blind chick can have a good life and find someone to love her no probs. But she is disfigured beyond recognition and will never be herself again. I am willing to guess she's having that overwhelming conflict inside her - wondering if she'd even want to have her sight back, because that would mean having the ability to look in the mirror and see what's become of her.

Plus, you seem to omit the fact that this was a middle-eastern setting. These are areas, the uncultured "cultures" to say, that consider pouring acid over a girl, burning her alive, honor killing, and everything else, to be an okay thing to do just because it's a girl. Because she was born with a vagina. They treat women like lesser human beings.

Now, this is a precedence, where a man is having done to him, what he's done to a woman. Which means his penalty is equal to the crime he has done. Which means the woman he hurt is equal to him. Do you even understand what kind of message it gives out? The importance of it? A government has spoken out and acknowledged equal treatment to a man and a woman. That's big. That's fucking gargantuic. And I hope to see more of it.
#12 - in false acusations, the acused would be permantly harmed unti…  [+] (10 replies) 09/08/2016 on brutal +21
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#145 - levonmazode (09/08/2016) [-]
but if he had acid in his eyes, he'll probably miss the next time he tries it cuz he'll be blind
#92 - anon (09/08/2016) [-]
By taking someone's freedom away you are also harming the criminal, so should jail time not exist? Justice certainly needs an element of punishment and by locking people up you are helping the victims of the perpetrator's crimes and also society as a whole. If you had a daughter that got raped would you not want the person responsible to be in jail or should he be sent to a comfortable -- comfort enhances to the learning experience --- teaching facility where he is taught to not rape people in group therapy sessions and when the teachers/therapists are happy with his progress he will be just let go? If you truly believe justice is about getting the criminal to be rehabilitated then jail time will get in its way, so you'd choose the second option.

Are you by any chance from a feminized country like Sweden where the justice system is set up to view criminals almost purely as victims of their circumstances? Rehabilitation is great and all, but this should not serve as the main focus of sentencing people to jail. Rehabilitation should be initiated from the person responsible themselves anyway and jails should only have to give assistance to those who are prepared to confront their own wrong doings.
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#100 - chusmimax (09/08/2016) [-]
jail is preventive, the person is dangerous, should not be allowed to make crime again.

i don't want people to be jailed 10 years if after that he will be dangerous again, other measures have to be taken.

And no, i'm not talking about comfortable rooming, he should not be allowed more luxuries than the ones who aren't jailed, i'm talking about rehabilitation as a man, not reintegration in the society.
#126 - anon (09/08/2016) [-]
Jail is not merely to prevent people from causing harm and not all people in jail are necessarily dangerous. I was just stating that punishment is a primary factor in society's need to lock people up and forfeiting their right to freedom.

The meaning of the word rehabilitation in this context means "to return someone to normal life after serving time in jail" i.e. reintegration into society.

But let's say that someone who is jailed for 20 years. If this person rehabilitates himself as a man and doesn't pose any more danger to society within the first 10 years, should this person be let out? Him being in jail doesn't prevent him committing crime, it may even lead to undermining his growth as a person.

On the comfort part, a lot of western jails are set up to facilitate the wishes of its inhabitants as much as possible and this is the direct result from the viewpoint that they are merely victims of their circumstances and should be placed in a nurturing environment which allows them to rehabilitate.
#14 - kiema (09/08/2016) [-]
i hear this argument a lot but i really dont think criminals in principle deserve to be rehabilitate in every single case, sometimes they deserve to have theyre lives ruined, in this case he deserves it
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#43 - smartythechicken (09/08/2016) [-]
i dont really feel like reading this whole convo, so instead i'll add something to the table:

you know the women that claim rape and get away with it? yeaaahhh.....
then yoiu have to think of the future. what if the guy who was killed was actually good, and had good genes, but the laws were shitty?

people can be good but break the law, and the law can also be in the favor of bad people.
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#15 - chusmimax (09/08/2016) [-]
what's the point? there is no point in destroying, won't give anything back.

I can accept death penalty altough i'm not in favor, but making someones live miserable is pointless and inhumane. They did something inhumane, and that's why they are paying.

If he has done something so evil, take away his live, there is no point in torture, if not, try to make that person half decent so it don't cause much more trouble
#16 - kiema (09/08/2016) [-]
that guys not special he wont be doing anything that someone else cant do, hes shown that he can do something unspeakable. i dont think that eye for an eye is useful in anyway and i agree he could just be executed but theres no loss for making him suffer/handicapped. if it makes that women feel even slighty better than its completly worth it in my mind.
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#18 - chusmimax (09/08/2016) [-]
i guess it's a valid point. But the search of vengeance won't give in fact anything for anyone, just more pain. I'm not saying she should pardon him, but she should focus her energy in something more rewarding.

Her vision is gone, it's something awful, he was the reason, but it is one of those things that will get worse the more you think about it. It is in fact difficult, but she should focus her energy in something more rewarding.

Also, i don't feel really confident about giving goverment the right to kill, after all, not always do goverments use rightfully their powers (a goverment can always corrupt itself)
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#27 - ciacheczko (09/08/2016) [-]
Mate, it's not just the vision. A pretty-looking blind chick can have a good life and find someone to love her no probs. But she is disfigured beyond recognition and will never be herself again. I am willing to guess she's having that overwhelming conflict inside her - wondering if she'd even want to have her sight back, because that would mean having the ability to look in the mirror and see what's become of her.

Plus, you seem to omit the fact that this was a middle-eastern setting. These are areas, the uncultured "cultures" to say, that consider pouring acid over a girl, burning her alive, honor killing, and everything else, to be an okay thing to do just because it's a girl. Because she was born with a vagina. They treat women like lesser human beings.

Now, this is a precedence, where a man is having done to him, what he's done to a woman. Which means his penalty is equal to the crime he has done. Which means the woman he hurt is equal to him. Do you even understand what kind of message it gives out? The importance of it? A government has spoken out and acknowledged equal treatment to a man and a woman. That's big. That's fucking gargantuic. And I hope to see more of it.
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#32 - manimator (09/08/2016) [-]
It's a joke, not bait
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#7 - dirtydollar (09/08/2016) [-]
Aww dang.