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#92 - Comment deleted 07/19/2016 on logic 0
#89 - "Strawman" refers to presenting an opposing argument…  [+] (7 replies) 07/19/2016 on logic 0
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#91 - titanfallshill (07/19/2016) [-]
What part of what I said is a strawman? Thanks, I will read these later and compare it to other information I have, see how it all fits. Be sure to always read beyond the abstract!
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#93 - charredenay (07/19/2016) [-]
"to pretend there isn't a race issue in this country us absurd. It's a thing I have experienced first hand"
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#95 - titanfallshill (07/19/2016) [-]
It is indeed something I have experienced first hand, and there is indeed a strife between races in this country, one with muddied causes but still real. Reading over the first source you provided and Richmond Virginia doesn't seem to be a good sample size compared to vast demographics between towns and cities. It would be far more interesting if the study was broader and also looked at cities with historically more racial tension, though I am still early into the paper. I read slow.
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#96 - charredenay (07/19/2016) [-]
I've not made myself clear. Racism DOES still exist. NO ONE is denying that. THAT is the strawman. In other words....
"RACISM IS NO LONGER A THING" = a thing no one has said = a strawman
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#98 - titanfallshill (07/19/2016) [-]
Duly noted, thanks for being clear.
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#94 - charredenay (07/19/2016) [-]
No one was pretending racism is not an issue we're still dealing with
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#80 - Nice strawman there. Is racism still an issue? Yes, of course.…  [+] (11 replies) 07/19/2016 on logic 0
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#86 - titanfallshill (07/19/2016) [-]
Also, what strawman, my own personal experience being profiled?
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#89 - charredenay (07/19/2016) [-]
"Strawman" refers to presenting an opposing argument that never existed, usually an opposing argument ridiculous enough to be dismissed offhand without further consideration.

As for those sources you asked for:

pqx.sagepub.com/content/4/1/4.short

This article seems to say that the problem lies with police training:

books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=VKqgBgAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA149&dq=police+brutality+stats+across+race&ots=6zToHwGfiU&sig=LQ6MrsVAQRvAeMk411ZbIqDIlDY#v=onepage&q&f=false

This authors seems to think that perception of police force differs between demographics.

cjb.sagepub.com/content/28/1/3.short

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#91 - titanfallshill (07/19/2016) [-]
What part of what I said is a strawman? Thanks, I will read these later and compare it to other information I have, see how it all fits. Be sure to always read beyond the abstract!
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#93 - charredenay (07/19/2016) [-]
"to pretend there isn't a race issue in this country us absurd. It's a thing I have experienced first hand"
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#95 - titanfallshill (07/19/2016) [-]
It is indeed something I have experienced first hand, and there is indeed a strife between races in this country, one with muddied causes but still real. Reading over the first source you provided and Richmond Virginia doesn't seem to be a good sample size compared to vast demographics between towns and cities. It would be far more interesting if the study was broader and also looked at cities with historically more racial tension, though I am still early into the paper. I read slow.
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#96 - charredenay (07/19/2016) [-]
I've not made myself clear. Racism DOES still exist. NO ONE is denying that. THAT is the strawman. In other words....
"RACISM IS NO LONGER A THING" = a thing no one has said = a strawman
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#98 - titanfallshill (07/19/2016) [-]
Duly noted, thanks for being clear.
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#94 - charredenay (07/19/2016) [-]
No one was pretending racism is not an issue we're still dealing with
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#84 - titanfallshill (07/19/2016) [-]
Police brutality is still an issue, one we should directly face. Thanks for the statistics, could you send me sources for future reference?
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#90 - charredenay (07/19/2016) [-]
Yes police brutality is still an issue, but it is not a racial one.
#40 - This hurts me. 07/15/2016 on Ana 0