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#46 - Then enjoy a future without you, or anyone like you. Where eve…  [+] (14 replies) 09/15/2016 on What a fitting "PUNISHMENT" +1
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#74 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
And my race isn't everything that's ever defined me, you should make sure race isn't the only thing that defines you, take up sports or something
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#73 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
Why does it matter so much to you that people stay white? It is after all just skin deep man. If I married a Chinese girl and had mixed race kids would you consider me a race traitor? Because I'm not going to pick and chose who I have kids with to aid the preservation of the white race, that's fucked up. I really don't care if my neighbours are black or Asian or whatever, and I don't care if my kids are half Mexican or half French just as long they're half me.

And you're not my mum, I don't care if I disappoint you mate.
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#80 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
It doesn't matter to me so much that people stay white, it's more a matter of I want people to stay anything but black. As I said before, Africans possess the dominant alleles, so eventually, given enough time and assuming no other mutations appear, we'd all look like them, and this scares me.

I'm made up of entirely recessive genes, I'm a stupidly pale Irish guy, with pale blue eyes and dirty blonde hair that becomes golden in the summer. Among other traits, I am certifiably European, and I worry that its going to die out in a a century or two. Never again will anyone look like the old Europeans, instead, we'll all be similar to Asians and Africans, and then even the Asian traits lose out.

I want to preserve what makes our world's peoples different, our different languages, cultures, phenotypes, all of it. This wave of diversity and multiculturalism threatens everyone on the planet. As we become more and more homogenous in every aspect. You can see a small effect of this now, with American music and movies being global and everyone going to see them. This doesn't really matter to me, and is an example of interculturalism, which is fine by me. Its when you're importing millions upon millions of foreigners with different beliefs,values, and phenotypical traits that threaten the host country's demographic make up and central culture that things become an issue.

Let me be clear, I don't have a problem with immigrants, I have a problem with too many of them. I have a problem with interracial marriages, but its fine on small scale as it currently is. Both of these combined means that the host country can continue to function and keep its history. People identify with people like them, which is why the founding fathers are popular with White nationalists and MLK is popular with black ones.

I'm sure the globe would have a shit fit if Japanese were being replaced with Europeans, and no one would bat an eye if they were to shut down immigration and prevent marriage, but in the west? You're not allowed to want to preserve yourself, because that's racist, and makes you Hitler, and can cost you your career and home even.

You care about true diversity, you'd be thinking like me, not the melting pot that the elite are trying to make the world. I spoke to a mixed race fella that told me why he was against it. He's got a lot of bone problems, as his teeth don't fit in jaw, his eyes don't fit in his sockets, and his joints don't line up right. His doctor had told him it was different traits from the other races being picked almost at random, so you ended up with a person who's bones didn't quite fit together, and so he speaks out against interaccial marriage. As weak of an example that is, it's all I've got.

Idk bud, if you don't care then you don't care, I can't change your mind if you don't believe me, and I can't make you believe me. Hell, I don't even want to think this way, but I just can't get it off my mind recently. As a kid I never cared, but then I got older and I started seeing a lot of things, both IRL and online, and now I'm very worried. I went to Toronto, and a lot happened to be, just for being white, I'm the new Jew in a sense, and no one wants to speak out for me, except me. And when I speak out, its always claims of racism and bigotry, I just want different peoples to have futures, I don't want us all to become one race of dark skinned people with a mix of african/asian features.
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#85 - tanditsky (09/16/2016) [-]
Okay I'm not going to do a huge reply because I don't have time and frankly your last reply made me realise how racist you are and I cba to have a rational conversation with you.
I do have a point and a question that jumped out though.
First there's nothing about mixed race that gives genetic problems, in fact being mixed race makes you much less likely to have the sorts of problems you were deacribing, think about dogs, purebreds are massively inbred with generic problems out the ass and mongrels are usually much healthier.
Second, why do you keep saying replaced? No ones getting replaced, the only thing is your grandkids and great grandkids may be a different colour, that's not replacing anyone, no one has to leave ( unless you're leaving because you don't like all the brown people, but then that's your own fault ). Just don't worry about skin colour, it doesn't matter it's only skin deep, the people are all still the same underneath man.
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#87 - carlonord (09/16/2016) [-]
I've read some things that same black and white mixed kids are around 200% more likely to have heart problems, then something else that claimed to debunk that. This is a pattern with this sort of thing, and I'm no expert so I don't like to argue the point.

And that IS repayment. You said it yourself, in the future my kids may be brown. That's the thing you see? I think my kind are unique and beautiful. That's not to say I don't say the same for other races, but mine is at the largest risk of being wiped out if things continue. Any kids who are mixed do not inherit the traits of the European, unless both parents have European ancestry. Have you seen mixed people? They look nothing like Europeans, even the ones who mix with Asians. Look at Italians, nothing like Scandinavians even. But at least it's better than totally going brown.

It's replacement because the whole of the west is importing fuck tons of people, whom threaten our demographics and even our races. Not through malice, just them being here is enough. Where are our countries? Why does European or North America do this to their people? Look at Africa, where's all their diversity? Where all of Japan's? Why are people trying to get rid of us specifically?

You could argue that people just don't have to date anyone who's different, but you can't stop people who screw anything. And you think we're all the same underneath? And that nothing will change when we become the minority? You just watch, mark my words, you watch and see what happens. My grandpa warned me, he's been pretty accurate so far.

We'll die out, our countries changed, and it'll be the fault of people like you, too apathetic to care about it, whileven every other country on earth does. It's people like you who facilitate our demise as a race, and don't give me that bullshit that it doesn't exist, how else could scientists identify the race of a man from his bones alone?
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#88 - tanditsky (09/17/2016) [-]
You seem to be arguing that people who aren't white just aren't as good people, that's what I got from the part when you talked about when whites are a minority. What exactly do you think will change? The more multicultural a society gets, the more accepting people are from every race, and if you aren't going to go so far as to not let your kids date other races and just protest other people's kids doing it, well then you're just a lazy racist, and that's the worst kind of racist.
Yeah that's the thing about grandads, their views are so often outdated, not always, there's always value to get from what your elders say, but this time the value is showing us how much our views have changed for the more tolerant since the 50s (?)
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#89 - carlonord (09/17/2016) [-]
I'm not arguing that they aren't as good as me, nor that I am better or worse than then, I'm arguing that they're different. I grew out of the supremacy shit when I got old enough to realize it was retarded and basically unprovable if it was true.

As I've said, I worry people like me will simply be overwhelmed and have no where to go to be with our own kind. Our governments push hard to incorporate every culture in the world into our countries, but this brings us into conflict with the other cultures, resulting in clashes. This is particularly dangerous in the case of religions, but I don't think you need that explained to you.

I'm sure the goal is admirable, to bring about a world of tolerance, love, and peace. Which will never succeed but points for trying I guess. But in the process, they destroy what makes us all different. That diversity thing you hear championed all the time? That won't exist if multiculturalism and globalism are allowed to continue. Cultures change, sure, but melding them all into a single one will mean we're all the same, at least culturally, and we will change with that culture. That might be inevitable though as the internet has made it very difficult to keep fads isolated. Sure, the goal is to have them all live with each other, but that won't happen, cultures assimilate, fade out, and destroy each other all the time, and have done so since recorded history.

I don't hate the other races, I don't hate the other cultures. I just think they're growing too large in Canada and the West, to the point of upsetting our political and social structure. They're not doing this on purpose, its just what happens really. Already Canada has made changes to allow Sikhs to wear their turbans in the police force, not a big deal right? Except here my grandpa was, screaming at the TV, telling me how it was gunna start with that, then they're want more, and more, and more. Give an inch, take a mile, just look at Britain or the US if you want any sort of example really. In Britain, they've got Sharia courts which are supposed to handle disputes between muslims and muslims spouses. This is so dumb that it makes the people who put this in place seem like vegetables. This directly undermines the British state and parliament, and if you speak out about it, you're a racist.

I want to preserve my people, my culture, my skin colour, my eyes, my hair, my face, my people. The governments of the world appear hell-bent on destroying me and my kind. You could argue that it destroys all races, but it doesn't. Africa is almost 100% African, Asian is almost 100% Asian, Europe is about 90% European and dropping. America in 65% European and dropping, Canada is 80% European and dropping. Where will we have left? The percentages of Africans are going up in their own countries, the percentages of Asians are staying the same as their people protest against immigration. But if you protest against immigration here? Racist.

I don't want to die out, and what there to be a place for people like me in the future, I want a place for everyone in the future. We don't need to destroy what makes us different to do that. Variety is the spice of life, no? I would argue the same point if these other peoples were dying out, and I argue the same for the American Indian.
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#90 - tanditsky (09/17/2016) [-]
You won't die out man, you're skin colour won't change don't worry
What is it exactly that makes you want to be around white people so much? I've never heard of anyone want to be around people the same colour as them so much.
Whats wrong with Sikh police wearing turbans? The slippery slope argument is retarded, you can justify anything with it. (E.g. blacks marrying whites? What's next, Asians marrying rocks???)
That Sharia court thing is just untrue, read less daily mail
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#91 - carlonord (09/18/2016) [-]
I won't, my kind/phenotype may, that worries me. Evolution is one thing, extinction or inbreeding is another.

Its not that I want to be surrounded by only white people, its that that's what I expect when I go to Canada, the states, or Europe. I don't go to India to find Russians, or China to find Arabs. Like I said, I don't have a problem with these people, I have a problem with too many. Even the Dali Lama knows this, he's spoken out at the muslims in India, Burma, and Tibet. He has spoken about Germany and Europe, how they're taking in too many migrants, and how they must not allow their countries to become islamic. The modern Gandhi himself has said this.

I don't particularly have a problem with it, but I certainly see the logic there, especially as the resident minority groups start clamour for more rights and power. Muslims in Toronto tried petitioning for Sharia courts, mayor told them to fuck off. A muslim political figure/VIP in Quebec told a female politician that he will make sure that she will be will be wearing a burka in the future.

Seen it more places than Daily mail, had it confirmed by people I know in the UK too.
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#92 - tanditsky (09/18/2016) [-]
Inbreeding? You're worried that Muslims will inbreed white people out of the country?

What does the Dali lama have to do with this? He's pretty left wing so I reckon I could find a few quotes you would fervently disagree with that he's said. Also who are you calling the modern ghandi?

Well I don't know about those cases, based off your record of facts from Britain though I'm a bit suspicious about their validity, the point is when a group is underrepresented, they're going to want more power in the government. This is fair. All citizens from a country should be represented, that's the politicians job.

Well let me just put that to bed now, it is 100% bollocks
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#94 - carlonord (09/19/2016) [-]
Not muslims, everyone. Asians, Indians, you name it, then make us become a minority in the country our ancestors founded and made. Though that may not even apply to me, since as far as I know, my families came over around the time of the potato famine, maybe a bit later or earlier. Hard to pin down really, since I'm so mixed. Irish, Swedish, Scottish, German, and possibly some French, makes it hard to track. Muslims, in particular Arabs and Middle Easterners have their homeland, I'm under threat of losing mine. The best I've got is to go back to Europe, to Ireland most likely, but I'm not sure. And even then, I've found hat there's a good chance that in many countries, among them Britain, Germany, Sweden, and France, that the natives are set to be minorities in their own countries in less than 50 years. That's fucked up, and don't tell me they'll assimilate, you know full well they won't. The Polish in Britain haven't even assimilated, and they're European!

I don't care what "wing" someone is, its only as good as a stereotype really. Its that he came out at said that Germany and Europe need to start turning away refugees, deporting the troublemakers, and making preparations to house real refugees until the problem has been resolved. I probably would disagree with him in some places, as I disagree with many historical and political figures, but I'm not afraid to say someone is right when they're right, or are in my opinion at least. And I call him the modern Gandhi because that's the impression I get from him, perhaps I'm wrong.

I apologize, I can't seem to find the video I had seen that had the muslim man saying that. I have this; www.torontosun.com/2016/01/09/pro-sharia-group-in-canada-is-political-party but its the equivalent of of saying look at these nutters I suppose. I've seen videos of muslims in Toronto saying that Canada's age of consent means nothing because the Koran says its ok (I can't find this one either, I'm serious I've seen this shit), I've experienced myself firsthand what happens when groups like them start to take over. When I was in Toronto, I got taken in by my college for racist remarks, asked a chinese guy I met if he spoke mandarin, cause he was sunburned orange. While I was there, I asked the lady what I should do if I hear someone call me a cracker or of the sort, and that I had already been called that. She told me to just put up with it, because I'm white, and they're minorities. Those were her words, and had I recorded that I would've sued them to death. And true, all citizens should be represented, but I don't want them to be here in the first place, because they grow, gain power, and that's the end of it. Happened to the French in Quebec too, when the Irish and British started coming over. We took over, they got stuck in that province.

I'll take your word for now, heard people say Daily is bad news, but not sure what to say about the guys who told me.

At the end of the day, its a war on our homogeneity, our people, under the flag of tolerance and love. People think its harmless and fine, but here's the thing. There's a lot of them, and less of us each year. Where is our home? Where do we go to be with our own kind? If I was Chinese, I could go to China, I could go to the homeland, be with people who might not think the same or act the same, but I wouldn't stand out. IF I was. I want to have a homeland, for me and my people, not every bastard on the globe to come and claim. Its mine, for me and my kids. How bout we open up the floodgates to Japan for millions of Africans? Could you imagine the shitstorm?
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#68 - tanuith (09/15/2016) [-]
I am unsure as to why people have a problem with nationalism. I live in Canada a country comprised of various immigrants from various places but in order for the multiculturalism of north america to exist there has to be countries to give the stock peoples. If you go ahead and murica up Europe then there will be no European nationalities to draw the diversity from and thus these actions will end up harming the diversity that the left cares for so dearly. Only regressive cultists of the extreme left think actually replacing any white people is a good idea, the other liberal governments and organizations just seem to be ignorant of the issues their actions can cause. Although I have seen both current leaders of Canada and the USA give support to the cult mentality in spoken word so fuck humanity in the ass i guess welcome to your living hell.
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#71 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
Feminist Trudeau grilled after sexsegregated mosque visit I had a chat with my prof about the migrant crisis. He said the west wouldn't be having the problems its having if the population wasn't in decline. That's very worrying for me. Basically, have kids, or the government will import people to replace you, with no shits given in regards to the people, just gotta keep the economy going.

Day in and day out, I hear of more groups cropping up across the west, spouting nationalism, with more flocking to the "Alt-Right" by the day, while the media tries to blast it. I read that the number of KKK chapters in the states has tripled in the last year alone, which is both worrying and giving me hope for different reasons.

I don't want to support these sort of things, but self preservation and the preservation of Europeans and their descendants tells me its the only way. I just hope it doesn't fly off the deep end and end up in shower camps, but there's not many other options to reverse demographic change. I suppose you could give tax incentives and cash benefits to white families that have 2 or more kids, as racists as that is, but it needs to be done for preservation. Or you could go with mass deportations, but that's very difficult.

Either way, I've come to the conclusion that diversity is only good in moderation, and multiculturalism is a self defeating policy. At least it would seem that people are wisening up, do you have any idea how hard it is to find someone who actually supports Trudeau, and I'm in Sudbury ffs! European and Anglo-Sphere Nationalism is the way forward, and we're gunna have to toughen up and offend some people if we want to keep the diversity that the left hold in such high regard. Big changes are coming, at least I hope.
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#82 - tanuith (09/16/2016) [-]
Trudeau only got in cause people thought that nobody could be as bad as Harper. well we traded one kind of horrible for another it seems. The ndp might have been more insane if they got in but they're more about the people in general unlike Trudeau or Harper. Yeah the population decline is an issue, the sad thing is the minorities are celebrating it as if its a good thing. (mainly in the US) I get that the companies need workers but in order to keep things running you have to support the nations citizenry which seems to be lacking in a lot of governments these days. Despite being liberal and slightly socialist I support trump because he appears to (Could be a ruse) care about the common worker. whereas Hillary cares about the cult like Obama before her. Honestly I just hope that Europe sees the value in experienced labor as compared to mass labor imports.
#44 - So, you're fine with that, ancestral homeland, and you're fine…  [+] (16 replies) 09/15/2016 on What a fitting "PUNISHMENT" 0
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#45 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
What do you even mean by identity? How far about are you looking? Exactly how long do families have to live in a country before they meet your standards? This country belongs to anyone who lives here, doesn't matter what their race or religion is. No ones history is being destroyed, it's history, can't change. Places evolve and develop over time, and I'm a firm believer that it doesn't matter who your mother or father were, everyone should be able to live here they want, do what they want, and have the same rights as anyone else.
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#46 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
Then enjoy a future without you, or anyone like you. Where everyone is brown with slightly squinty eyes, with dark hair and brown eyes, fat lips and wide noses.

Don't want to defend your people? Then prepare to lose anything that ever defined you or anyone like you. We'll all be the same, because every other race except the blacks are made of recessive traits. But who cares if we all die out, as long as we're not racist right? You disappoint me deeply, and just plain make me sad.

Africans will always have Africa, and there will always be Africans, but I suppose its natural selection if everyone else just wants to give up and die off.
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#74 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
And my race isn't everything that's ever defined me, you should make sure race isn't the only thing that defines you, take up sports or something
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#73 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
Why does it matter so much to you that people stay white? It is after all just skin deep man. If I married a Chinese girl and had mixed race kids would you consider me a race traitor? Because I'm not going to pick and chose who I have kids with to aid the preservation of the white race, that's fucked up. I really don't care if my neighbours are black or Asian or whatever, and I don't care if my kids are half Mexican or half French just as long they're half me.

And you're not my mum, I don't care if I disappoint you mate.
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#80 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
It doesn't matter to me so much that people stay white, it's more a matter of I want people to stay anything but black. As I said before, Africans possess the dominant alleles, so eventually, given enough time and assuming no other mutations appear, we'd all look like them, and this scares me.

I'm made up of entirely recessive genes, I'm a stupidly pale Irish guy, with pale blue eyes and dirty blonde hair that becomes golden in the summer. Among other traits, I am certifiably European, and I worry that its going to die out in a a century or two. Never again will anyone look like the old Europeans, instead, we'll all be similar to Asians and Africans, and then even the Asian traits lose out.

I want to preserve what makes our world's peoples different, our different languages, cultures, phenotypes, all of it. This wave of diversity and multiculturalism threatens everyone on the planet. As we become more and more homogenous in every aspect. You can see a small effect of this now, with American music and movies being global and everyone going to see them. This doesn't really matter to me, and is an example of interculturalism, which is fine by me. Its when you're importing millions upon millions of foreigners with different beliefs,values, and phenotypical traits that threaten the host country's demographic make up and central culture that things become an issue.

Let me be clear, I don't have a problem with immigrants, I have a problem with too many of them. I have a problem with interracial marriages, but its fine on small scale as it currently is. Both of these combined means that the host country can continue to function and keep its history. People identify with people like them, which is why the founding fathers are popular with White nationalists and MLK is popular with black ones.

I'm sure the globe would have a shit fit if Japanese were being replaced with Europeans, and no one would bat an eye if they were to shut down immigration and prevent marriage, but in the west? You're not allowed to want to preserve yourself, because that's racist, and makes you Hitler, and can cost you your career and home even.

You care about true diversity, you'd be thinking like me, not the melting pot that the elite are trying to make the world. I spoke to a mixed race fella that told me why he was against it. He's got a lot of bone problems, as his teeth don't fit in jaw, his eyes don't fit in his sockets, and his joints don't line up right. His doctor had told him it was different traits from the other races being picked almost at random, so you ended up with a person who's bones didn't quite fit together, and so he speaks out against interaccial marriage. As weak of an example that is, it's all I've got.

Idk bud, if you don't care then you don't care, I can't change your mind if you don't believe me, and I can't make you believe me. Hell, I don't even want to think this way, but I just can't get it off my mind recently. As a kid I never cared, but then I got older and I started seeing a lot of things, both IRL and online, and now I'm very worried. I went to Toronto, and a lot happened to be, just for being white, I'm the new Jew in a sense, and no one wants to speak out for me, except me. And when I speak out, its always claims of racism and bigotry, I just want different peoples to have futures, I don't want us all to become one race of dark skinned people with a mix of african/asian features.
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#85 - tanditsky (09/16/2016) [-]
Okay I'm not going to do a huge reply because I don't have time and frankly your last reply made me realise how racist you are and I cba to have a rational conversation with you.
I do have a point and a question that jumped out though.
First there's nothing about mixed race that gives genetic problems, in fact being mixed race makes you much less likely to have the sorts of problems you were deacribing, think about dogs, purebreds are massively inbred with generic problems out the ass and mongrels are usually much healthier.
Second, why do you keep saying replaced? No ones getting replaced, the only thing is your grandkids and great grandkids may be a different colour, that's not replacing anyone, no one has to leave ( unless you're leaving because you don't like all the brown people, but then that's your own fault ). Just don't worry about skin colour, it doesn't matter it's only skin deep, the people are all still the same underneath man.
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#87 - carlonord (09/16/2016) [-]
I've read some things that same black and white mixed kids are around 200% more likely to have heart problems, then something else that claimed to debunk that. This is a pattern with this sort of thing, and I'm no expert so I don't like to argue the point.

And that IS repayment. You said it yourself, in the future my kids may be brown. That's the thing you see? I think my kind are unique and beautiful. That's not to say I don't say the same for other races, but mine is at the largest risk of being wiped out if things continue. Any kids who are mixed do not inherit the traits of the European, unless both parents have European ancestry. Have you seen mixed people? They look nothing like Europeans, even the ones who mix with Asians. Look at Italians, nothing like Scandinavians even. But at least it's better than totally going brown.

It's replacement because the whole of the west is importing fuck tons of people, whom threaten our demographics and even our races. Not through malice, just them being here is enough. Where are our countries? Why does European or North America do this to their people? Look at Africa, where's all their diversity? Where all of Japan's? Why are people trying to get rid of us specifically?

You could argue that people just don't have to date anyone who's different, but you can't stop people who screw anything. And you think we're all the same underneath? And that nothing will change when we become the minority? You just watch, mark my words, you watch and see what happens. My grandpa warned me, he's been pretty accurate so far.

We'll die out, our countries changed, and it'll be the fault of people like you, too apathetic to care about it, whileven every other country on earth does. It's people like you who facilitate our demise as a race, and don't give me that bullshit that it doesn't exist, how else could scientists identify the race of a man from his bones alone?
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#88 - tanditsky (09/17/2016) [-]
You seem to be arguing that people who aren't white just aren't as good people, that's what I got from the part when you talked about when whites are a minority. What exactly do you think will change? The more multicultural a society gets, the more accepting people are from every race, and if you aren't going to go so far as to not let your kids date other races and just protest other people's kids doing it, well then you're just a lazy racist, and that's the worst kind of racist.
Yeah that's the thing about grandads, their views are so often outdated, not always, there's always value to get from what your elders say, but this time the value is showing us how much our views have changed for the more tolerant since the 50s (?)
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#89 - carlonord (09/17/2016) [-]
I'm not arguing that they aren't as good as me, nor that I am better or worse than then, I'm arguing that they're different. I grew out of the supremacy shit when I got old enough to realize it was retarded and basically unprovable if it was true.

As I've said, I worry people like me will simply be overwhelmed and have no where to go to be with our own kind. Our governments push hard to incorporate every culture in the world into our countries, but this brings us into conflict with the other cultures, resulting in clashes. This is particularly dangerous in the case of religions, but I don't think you need that explained to you.

I'm sure the goal is admirable, to bring about a world of tolerance, love, and peace. Which will never succeed but points for trying I guess. But in the process, they destroy what makes us all different. That diversity thing you hear championed all the time? That won't exist if multiculturalism and globalism are allowed to continue. Cultures change, sure, but melding them all into a single one will mean we're all the same, at least culturally, and we will change with that culture. That might be inevitable though as the internet has made it very difficult to keep fads isolated. Sure, the goal is to have them all live with each other, but that won't happen, cultures assimilate, fade out, and destroy each other all the time, and have done so since recorded history.

I don't hate the other races, I don't hate the other cultures. I just think they're growing too large in Canada and the West, to the point of upsetting our political and social structure. They're not doing this on purpose, its just what happens really. Already Canada has made changes to allow Sikhs to wear their turbans in the police force, not a big deal right? Except here my grandpa was, screaming at the TV, telling me how it was gunna start with that, then they're want more, and more, and more. Give an inch, take a mile, just look at Britain or the US if you want any sort of example really. In Britain, they've got Sharia courts which are supposed to handle disputes between muslims and muslims spouses. This is so dumb that it makes the people who put this in place seem like vegetables. This directly undermines the British state and parliament, and if you speak out about it, you're a racist.

I want to preserve my people, my culture, my skin colour, my eyes, my hair, my face, my people. The governments of the world appear hell-bent on destroying me and my kind. You could argue that it destroys all races, but it doesn't. Africa is almost 100% African, Asian is almost 100% Asian, Europe is about 90% European and dropping. America in 65% European and dropping, Canada is 80% European and dropping. Where will we have left? The percentages of Africans are going up in their own countries, the percentages of Asians are staying the same as their people protest against immigration. But if you protest against immigration here? Racist.

I don't want to die out, and what there to be a place for people like me in the future, I want a place for everyone in the future. We don't need to destroy what makes us different to do that. Variety is the spice of life, no? I would argue the same point if these other peoples were dying out, and I argue the same for the American Indian.
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#90 - tanditsky (09/17/2016) [-]
You won't die out man, you're skin colour won't change don't worry
What is it exactly that makes you want to be around white people so much? I've never heard of anyone want to be around people the same colour as them so much.
Whats wrong with Sikh police wearing turbans? The slippery slope argument is retarded, you can justify anything with it. (E.g. blacks marrying whites? What's next, Asians marrying rocks???)
That Sharia court thing is just untrue, read less daily mail
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#91 - carlonord (09/18/2016) [-]
I won't, my kind/phenotype may, that worries me. Evolution is one thing, extinction or inbreeding is another.

Its not that I want to be surrounded by only white people, its that that's what I expect when I go to Canada, the states, or Europe. I don't go to India to find Russians, or China to find Arabs. Like I said, I don't have a problem with these people, I have a problem with too many. Even the Dali Lama knows this, he's spoken out at the muslims in India, Burma, and Tibet. He has spoken about Germany and Europe, how they're taking in too many migrants, and how they must not allow their countries to become islamic. The modern Gandhi himself has said this.

I don't particularly have a problem with it, but I certainly see the logic there, especially as the resident minority groups start clamour for more rights and power. Muslims in Toronto tried petitioning for Sharia courts, mayor told them to fuck off. A muslim political figure/VIP in Quebec told a female politician that he will make sure that she will be will be wearing a burka in the future.

Seen it more places than Daily mail, had it confirmed by people I know in the UK too.
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#92 - tanditsky (09/18/2016) [-]
Inbreeding? You're worried that Muslims will inbreed white people out of the country?

What does the Dali lama have to do with this? He's pretty left wing so I reckon I could find a few quotes you would fervently disagree with that he's said. Also who are you calling the modern ghandi?

Well I don't know about those cases, based off your record of facts from Britain though I'm a bit suspicious about their validity, the point is when a group is underrepresented, they're going to want more power in the government. This is fair. All citizens from a country should be represented, that's the politicians job.

Well let me just put that to bed now, it is 100% bollocks
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#94 - carlonord (09/19/2016) [-]
Not muslims, everyone. Asians, Indians, you name it, then make us become a minority in the country our ancestors founded and made. Though that may not even apply to me, since as far as I know, my families came over around the time of the potato famine, maybe a bit later or earlier. Hard to pin down really, since I'm so mixed. Irish, Swedish, Scottish, German, and possibly some French, makes it hard to track. Muslims, in particular Arabs and Middle Easterners have their homeland, I'm under threat of losing mine. The best I've got is to go back to Europe, to Ireland most likely, but I'm not sure. And even then, I've found hat there's a good chance that in many countries, among them Britain, Germany, Sweden, and France, that the natives are set to be minorities in their own countries in less than 50 years. That's fucked up, and don't tell me they'll assimilate, you know full well they won't. The Polish in Britain haven't even assimilated, and they're European!

I don't care what "wing" someone is, its only as good as a stereotype really. Its that he came out at said that Germany and Europe need to start turning away refugees, deporting the troublemakers, and making preparations to house real refugees until the problem has been resolved. I probably would disagree with him in some places, as I disagree with many historical and political figures, but I'm not afraid to say someone is right when they're right, or are in my opinion at least. And I call him the modern Gandhi because that's the impression I get from him, perhaps I'm wrong.

I apologize, I can't seem to find the video I had seen that had the muslim man saying that. I have this; www.torontosun.com/2016/01/09/pro-sharia-group-in-canada-is-political-party but its the equivalent of of saying look at these nutters I suppose. I've seen videos of muslims in Toronto saying that Canada's age of consent means nothing because the Koran says its ok (I can't find this one either, I'm serious I've seen this shit), I've experienced myself firsthand what happens when groups like them start to take over. When I was in Toronto, I got taken in by my college for racist remarks, asked a chinese guy I met if he spoke mandarin, cause he was sunburned orange. While I was there, I asked the lady what I should do if I hear someone call me a cracker or of the sort, and that I had already been called that. She told me to just put up with it, because I'm white, and they're minorities. Those were her words, and had I recorded that I would've sued them to death. And true, all citizens should be represented, but I don't want them to be here in the first place, because they grow, gain power, and that's the end of it. Happened to the French in Quebec too, when the Irish and British started coming over. We took over, they got stuck in that province.

I'll take your word for now, heard people say Daily is bad news, but not sure what to say about the guys who told me.

At the end of the day, its a war on our homogeneity, our people, under the flag of tolerance and love. People think its harmless and fine, but here's the thing. There's a lot of them, and less of us each year. Where is our home? Where do we go to be with our own kind? If I was Chinese, I could go to China, I could go to the homeland, be with people who might not think the same or act the same, but I wouldn't stand out. IF I was. I want to have a homeland, for me and my people, not every bastard on the globe to come and claim. Its mine, for me and my kids. How bout we open up the floodgates to Japan for millions of Africans? Could you imagine the shitstorm?
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#68 - tanuith (09/15/2016) [-]
I am unsure as to why people have a problem with nationalism. I live in Canada a country comprised of various immigrants from various places but in order for the multiculturalism of north america to exist there has to be countries to give the stock peoples. If you go ahead and murica up Europe then there will be no European nationalities to draw the diversity from and thus these actions will end up harming the diversity that the left cares for so dearly. Only regressive cultists of the extreme left think actually replacing any white people is a good idea, the other liberal governments and organizations just seem to be ignorant of the issues their actions can cause. Although I have seen both current leaders of Canada and the USA give support to the cult mentality in spoken word so fuck humanity in the ass i guess welcome to your living hell.
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#71 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
Feminist Trudeau grilled after sexsegregated mosque visit I had a chat with my prof about the migrant crisis. He said the west wouldn't be having the problems its having if the population wasn't in decline. That's very worrying for me. Basically, have kids, or the government will import people to replace you, with no shits given in regards to the people, just gotta keep the economy going.

Day in and day out, I hear of more groups cropping up across the west, spouting nationalism, with more flocking to the "Alt-Right" by the day, while the media tries to blast it. I read that the number of KKK chapters in the states has tripled in the last year alone, which is both worrying and giving me hope for different reasons.

I don't want to support these sort of things, but self preservation and the preservation of Europeans and their descendants tells me its the only way. I just hope it doesn't fly off the deep end and end up in shower camps, but there's not many other options to reverse demographic change. I suppose you could give tax incentives and cash benefits to white families that have 2 or more kids, as racists as that is, but it needs to be done for preservation. Or you could go with mass deportations, but that's very difficult.

Either way, I've come to the conclusion that diversity is only good in moderation, and multiculturalism is a self defeating policy. At least it would seem that people are wisening up, do you have any idea how hard it is to find someone who actually supports Trudeau, and I'm in Sudbury ffs! European and Anglo-Sphere Nationalism is the way forward, and we're gunna have to toughen up and offend some people if we want to keep the diversity that the left hold in such high regard. Big changes are coming, at least I hope.
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#82 - tanuith (09/16/2016) [-]
Trudeau only got in cause people thought that nobody could be as bad as Harper. well we traded one kind of horrible for another it seems. The ndp might have been more insane if they got in but they're more about the people in general unlike Trudeau or Harper. Yeah the population decline is an issue, the sad thing is the minorities are celebrating it as if its a good thing. (mainly in the US) I get that the companies need workers but in order to keep things running you have to support the nations citizenry which seems to be lacking in a lot of governments these days. Despite being liberal and slightly socialist I support trump because he appears to (Could be a ruse) care about the common worker. whereas Hillary cares about the cult like Obama before her. Honestly I just hope that Europe sees the value in experienced labor as compared to mass labor imports.
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#33 - tanditsky (09/14/2016) [-]
Well for me it was pretty clear we should stay because, as a resident one of the least white cities, we have no problem with immigration, it was just all daily mail hate mongering. The more improtant point were the trade and funding we're now going to lose from the EU that's going to just fuck us. The EU funded a huge referb on a major road that's given thousand of people jobs over the last 6 years, as well as massively reducing the amount of time it takes for someone to get from the north of England to the south of wales.
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#58 - Shramin (09/15/2016) [-]
The uk primarily trades with Asia and America, EU trade is maybe 10% and due to the share importance of the uk trade hub the EU will not drop that. From a buisness standpoint the uk only stands to gain from this.
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#72 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
Maybe the UK in general, but lots of small businesses rely on trade from Europe to restock, and they're going to get majorly fucked by this because it'll make everything so much more hard for no gain.
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#75 - Shramin (09/15/2016) [-]
Only in the regard that there will now be border taxes, EU cannot afford a total loss of trade revenue with the UK, the small businesses will be fine.

I am uncertain what you mean no gain, the UK's major issue with the EU was that its initial agreement was broken by the EU, since the UK wasn't allowed to dictate its own growth but was supposed to. The UK was one of the primary sources of money for the EU and it was costly, so what they have to gain now is a lot of that money for self growth instead of dumped into a system that is unwilling to be strict on countries not following the system (see Greece as an example).

EU needs to grow a backbone, it didn't and that is why the UK left.
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#77 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
But we won't have more money to spend, the leave campaign has already admitted they lied about the amount of money we would save from leaving, in fact in was the major talking point in the week after we left when the economy took a massive fall. The EU was mutually beneficial, everyone who was educated about the EU knew that, that's why almost every MP was in favour of remaining.

My major grievance with the Brexit campaign is that it was fought on immigration issues, with Farage and the leave vote constantly talking about stopping immigration to the point where people voted just purely off that one fact. This is so much the case that people around the world, like that carlonord, think that it's only an immigration issue. This ignorance surrounding the whole debate is caused by an over zealous, racist, leave vote and a terribly organised remain.
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#81 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
Don't call me ignorant, I'm aware that there's more too Brexit than that, I just think that in today's world, that's the most pressing issue. I'd live in a shanty town as long as I wasn't going to be replaced, because the economy can always recover, or adjust to the number of people it has. The west doesn't need immigrants, they need the west.
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#78 - Shramin (09/15/2016) [-]
They did not, one guy stated that it would not all go to the nhs as promised which is likely true. You also cannot look at earnings or spending as if things stay the same, keep in mind all the spending practises forced on the uk by the EU which can now be changed to be more local oriented and less costly.

Uk will be fine. Don't fall for the scare tactics.
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#44 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
So, you're fine with that, ancestral homeland, and you're fine with it being taken over by immigrants.

I don't particularly care about economy, I care about the people, the EU could've made every last person rich and was in the middle of sending us to another solar system, and I'd still say countries should get out because they're undermining your identity and replacing your population.
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#45 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
What do you even mean by identity? How far about are you looking? Exactly how long do families have to live in a country before they meet your standards? This country belongs to anyone who lives here, doesn't matter what their race or religion is. No ones history is being destroyed, it's history, can't change. Places evolve and develop over time, and I'm a firm believer that it doesn't matter who your mother or father were, everyone should be able to live here they want, do what they want, and have the same rights as anyone else.
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#46 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
Then enjoy a future without you, or anyone like you. Where everyone is brown with slightly squinty eyes, with dark hair and brown eyes, fat lips and wide noses.

Don't want to defend your people? Then prepare to lose anything that ever defined you or anyone like you. We'll all be the same, because every other race except the blacks are made of recessive traits. But who cares if we all die out, as long as we're not racist right? You disappoint me deeply, and just plain make me sad.

Africans will always have Africa, and there will always be Africans, but I suppose its natural selection if everyone else just wants to give up and die off.
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#74 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
And my race isn't everything that's ever defined me, you should make sure race isn't the only thing that defines you, take up sports or something
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#73 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
Why does it matter so much to you that people stay white? It is after all just skin deep man. If I married a Chinese girl and had mixed race kids would you consider me a race traitor? Because I'm not going to pick and chose who I have kids with to aid the preservation of the white race, that's fucked up. I really don't care if my neighbours are black or Asian or whatever, and I don't care if my kids are half Mexican or half French just as long they're half me.

And you're not my mum, I don't care if I disappoint you mate.
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#80 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
It doesn't matter to me so much that people stay white, it's more a matter of I want people to stay anything but black. As I said before, Africans possess the dominant alleles, so eventually, given enough time and assuming no other mutations appear, we'd all look like them, and this scares me.

I'm made up of entirely recessive genes, I'm a stupidly pale Irish guy, with pale blue eyes and dirty blonde hair that becomes golden in the summer. Among other traits, I am certifiably European, and I worry that its going to die out in a a century or two. Never again will anyone look like the old Europeans, instead, we'll all be similar to Asians and Africans, and then even the Asian traits lose out.

I want to preserve what makes our world's peoples different, our different languages, cultures, phenotypes, all of it. This wave of diversity and multiculturalism threatens everyone on the planet. As we become more and more homogenous in every aspect. You can see a small effect of this now, with American music and movies being global and everyone going to see them. This doesn't really matter to me, and is an example of interculturalism, which is fine by me. Its when you're importing millions upon millions of foreigners with different beliefs,values, and phenotypical traits that threaten the host country's demographic make up and central culture that things become an issue.

Let me be clear, I don't have a problem with immigrants, I have a problem with too many of them. I have a problem with interracial marriages, but its fine on small scale as it currently is. Both of these combined means that the host country can continue to function and keep its history. People identify with people like them, which is why the founding fathers are popular with White nationalists and MLK is popular with black ones.

I'm sure the globe would have a shit fit if Japanese were being replaced with Europeans, and no one would bat an eye if they were to shut down immigration and prevent marriage, but in the west? You're not allowed to want to preserve yourself, because that's racist, and makes you Hitler, and can cost you your career and home even.

You care about true diversity, you'd be thinking like me, not the melting pot that the elite are trying to make the world. I spoke to a mixed race fella that told me why he was against it. He's got a lot of bone problems, as his teeth don't fit in jaw, his eyes don't fit in his sockets, and his joints don't line up right. His doctor had told him it was different traits from the other races being picked almost at random, so you ended up with a person who's bones didn't quite fit together, and so he speaks out against interaccial marriage. As weak of an example that is, it's all I've got.

Idk bud, if you don't care then you don't care, I can't change your mind if you don't believe me, and I can't make you believe me. Hell, I don't even want to think this way, but I just can't get it off my mind recently. As a kid I never cared, but then I got older and I started seeing a lot of things, both IRL and online, and now I'm very worried. I went to Toronto, and a lot happened to be, just for being white, I'm the new Jew in a sense, and no one wants to speak out for me, except me. And when I speak out, its always claims of racism and bigotry, I just want different peoples to have futures, I don't want us all to become one race of dark skinned people with a mix of african/asian features.
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#85 - tanditsky (09/16/2016) [-]
Okay I'm not going to do a huge reply because I don't have time and frankly your last reply made me realise how racist you are and I cba to have a rational conversation with you.
I do have a point and a question that jumped out though.
First there's nothing about mixed race that gives genetic problems, in fact being mixed race makes you much less likely to have the sorts of problems you were deacribing, think about dogs, purebreds are massively inbred with generic problems out the ass and mongrels are usually much healthier.
Second, why do you keep saying replaced? No ones getting replaced, the only thing is your grandkids and great grandkids may be a different colour, that's not replacing anyone, no one has to leave ( unless you're leaving because you don't like all the brown people, but then that's your own fault ). Just don't worry about skin colour, it doesn't matter it's only skin deep, the people are all still the same underneath man.
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#87 - carlonord (09/16/2016) [-]
I've read some things that same black and white mixed kids are around 200% more likely to have heart problems, then something else that claimed to debunk that. This is a pattern with this sort of thing, and I'm no expert so I don't like to argue the point.

And that IS repayment. You said it yourself, in the future my kids may be brown. That's the thing you see? I think my kind are unique and beautiful. That's not to say I don't say the same for other races, but mine is at the largest risk of being wiped out if things continue. Any kids who are mixed do not inherit the traits of the European, unless both parents have European ancestry. Have you seen mixed people? They look nothing like Europeans, even the ones who mix with Asians. Look at Italians, nothing like Scandinavians even. But at least it's better than totally going brown.

It's replacement because the whole of the west is importing fuck tons of people, whom threaten our demographics and even our races. Not through malice, just them being here is enough. Where are our countries? Why does European or North America do this to their people? Look at Africa, where's all their diversity? Where all of Japan's? Why are people trying to get rid of us specifically?

You could argue that people just don't have to date anyone who's different, but you can't stop people who screw anything. And you think we're all the same underneath? And that nothing will change when we become the minority? You just watch, mark my words, you watch and see what happens. My grandpa warned me, he's been pretty accurate so far.

We'll die out, our countries changed, and it'll be the fault of people like you, too apathetic to care about it, whileven every other country on earth does. It's people like you who facilitate our demise as a race, and don't give me that bullshit that it doesn't exist, how else could scientists identify the race of a man from his bones alone?
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#88 - tanditsky (09/17/2016) [-]
You seem to be arguing that people who aren't white just aren't as good people, that's what I got from the part when you talked about when whites are a minority. What exactly do you think will change? The more multicultural a society gets, the more accepting people are from every race, and if you aren't going to go so far as to not let your kids date other races and just protest other people's kids doing it, well then you're just a lazy racist, and that's the worst kind of racist.
Yeah that's the thing about grandads, their views are so often outdated, not always, there's always value to get from what your elders say, but this time the value is showing us how much our views have changed for the more tolerant since the 50s (?)
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#89 - carlonord (09/17/2016) [-]
I'm not arguing that they aren't as good as me, nor that I am better or worse than then, I'm arguing that they're different. I grew out of the supremacy shit when I got old enough to realize it was retarded and basically unprovable if it was true.

As I've said, I worry people like me will simply be overwhelmed and have no where to go to be with our own kind. Our governments push hard to incorporate every culture in the world into our countries, but this brings us into conflict with the other cultures, resulting in clashes. This is particularly dangerous in the case of religions, but I don't think you need that explained to you.

I'm sure the goal is admirable, to bring about a world of tolerance, love, and peace. Which will never succeed but points for trying I guess. But in the process, they destroy what makes us all different. That diversity thing you hear championed all the time? That won't exist if multiculturalism and globalism are allowed to continue. Cultures change, sure, but melding them all into a single one will mean we're all the same, at least culturally, and we will change with that culture. That might be inevitable though as the internet has made it very difficult to keep fads isolated. Sure, the goal is to have them all live with each other, but that won't happen, cultures assimilate, fade out, and destroy each other all the time, and have done so since recorded history.

I don't hate the other races, I don't hate the other cultures. I just think they're growing too large in Canada and the West, to the point of upsetting our political and social structure. They're not doing this on purpose, its just what happens really. Already Canada has made changes to allow Sikhs to wear their turbans in the police force, not a big deal right? Except here my grandpa was, screaming at the TV, telling me how it was gunna start with that, then they're want more, and more, and more. Give an inch, take a mile, just look at Britain or the US if you want any sort of example really. In Britain, they've got Sharia courts which are supposed to handle disputes between muslims and muslims spouses. This is so dumb that it makes the people who put this in place seem like vegetables. This directly undermines the British state and parliament, and if you speak out about it, you're a racist.

I want to preserve my people, my culture, my skin colour, my eyes, my hair, my face, my people. The governments of the world appear hell-bent on destroying me and my kind. You could argue that it destroys all races, but it doesn't. Africa is almost 100% African, Asian is almost 100% Asian, Europe is about 90% European and dropping. America in 65% European and dropping, Canada is 80% European and dropping. Where will we have left? The percentages of Africans are going up in their own countries, the percentages of Asians are staying the same as their people protest against immigration. But if you protest against immigration here? Racist.

I don't want to die out, and what there to be a place for people like me in the future, I want a place for everyone in the future. We don't need to destroy what makes us different to do that. Variety is the spice of life, no? I would argue the same point if these other peoples were dying out, and I argue the same for the American Indian.
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#90 - tanditsky (09/17/2016) [-]
You won't die out man, you're skin colour won't change don't worry
What is it exactly that makes you want to be around white people so much? I've never heard of anyone want to be around people the same colour as them so much.
Whats wrong with Sikh police wearing turbans? The slippery slope argument is retarded, you can justify anything with it. (E.g. blacks marrying whites? What's next, Asians marrying rocks???)
That Sharia court thing is just untrue, read less daily mail
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#91 - carlonord (09/18/2016) [-]
I won't, my kind/phenotype may, that worries me. Evolution is one thing, extinction or inbreeding is another.

Its not that I want to be surrounded by only white people, its that that's what I expect when I go to Canada, the states, or Europe. I don't go to India to find Russians, or China to find Arabs. Like I said, I don't have a problem with these people, I have a problem with too many. Even the Dali Lama knows this, he's spoken out at the muslims in India, Burma, and Tibet. He has spoken about Germany and Europe, how they're taking in too many migrants, and how they must not allow their countries to become islamic. The modern Gandhi himself has said this.

I don't particularly have a problem with it, but I certainly see the logic there, especially as the resident minority groups start clamour for more rights and power. Muslims in Toronto tried petitioning for Sharia courts, mayor told them to fuck off. A muslim political figure/VIP in Quebec told a female politician that he will make sure that she will be will be wearing a burka in the future.

Seen it more places than Daily mail, had it confirmed by people I know in the UK too.
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#92 - tanditsky (09/18/2016) [-]
Inbreeding? You're worried that Muslims will inbreed white people out of the country?

What does the Dali lama have to do with this? He's pretty left wing so I reckon I could find a few quotes you would fervently disagree with that he's said. Also who are you calling the modern ghandi?

Well I don't know about those cases, based off your record of facts from Britain though I'm a bit suspicious about their validity, the point is when a group is underrepresented, they're going to want more power in the government. This is fair. All citizens from a country should be represented, that's the politicians job.

Well let me just put that to bed now, it is 100% bollocks
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#94 - carlonord (09/19/2016) [-]
Not muslims, everyone. Asians, Indians, you name it, then make us become a minority in the country our ancestors founded and made. Though that may not even apply to me, since as far as I know, my families came over around the time of the potato famine, maybe a bit later or earlier. Hard to pin down really, since I'm so mixed. Irish, Swedish, Scottish, German, and possibly some French, makes it hard to track. Muslims, in particular Arabs and Middle Easterners have their homeland, I'm under threat of losing mine. The best I've got is to go back to Europe, to Ireland most likely, but I'm not sure. And even then, I've found hat there's a good chance that in many countries, among them Britain, Germany, Sweden, and France, that the natives are set to be minorities in their own countries in less than 50 years. That's fucked up, and don't tell me they'll assimilate, you know full well they won't. The Polish in Britain haven't even assimilated, and they're European!

I don't care what "wing" someone is, its only as good as a stereotype really. Its that he came out at said that Germany and Europe need to start turning away refugees, deporting the troublemakers, and making preparations to house real refugees until the problem has been resolved. I probably would disagree with him in some places, as I disagree with many historical and political figures, but I'm not afraid to say someone is right when they're right, or are in my opinion at least. And I call him the modern Gandhi because that's the impression I get from him, perhaps I'm wrong.

I apologize, I can't seem to find the video I had seen that had the muslim man saying that. I have this; www.torontosun.com/2016/01/09/pro-sharia-group-in-canada-is-political-party but its the equivalent of of saying look at these nutters I suppose. I've seen videos of muslims in Toronto saying that Canada's age of consent means nothing because the Koran says its ok (I can't find this one either, I'm serious I've seen this shit), I've experienced myself firsthand what happens when groups like them start to take over. When I was in Toronto, I got taken in by my college for racist remarks, asked a chinese guy I met if he spoke mandarin, cause he was sunburned orange. While I was there, I asked the lady what I should do if I hear someone call me a cracker or of the sort, and that I had already been called that. She told me to just put up with it, because I'm white, and they're minorities. Those were her words, and had I recorded that I would've sued them to death. And true, all citizens should be represented, but I don't want them to be here in the first place, because they grow, gain power, and that's the end of it. Happened to the French in Quebec too, when the Irish and British started coming over. We took over, they got stuck in that province.

I'll take your word for now, heard people say Daily is bad news, but not sure what to say about the guys who told me.

At the end of the day, its a war on our homogeneity, our people, under the flag of tolerance and love. People think its harmless and fine, but here's the thing. There's a lot of them, and less of us each year. Where is our home? Where do we go to be with our own kind? If I was Chinese, I could go to China, I could go to the homeland, be with people who might not think the same or act the same, but I wouldn't stand out. IF I was. I want to have a homeland, for me and my people, not every bastard on the globe to come and claim. Its mine, for me and my kids. How bout we open up the floodgates to Japan for millions of Africans? Could you imagine the shitstorm?
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#68 - tanuith (09/15/2016) [-]
I am unsure as to why people have a problem with nationalism. I live in Canada a country comprised of various immigrants from various places but in order for the multiculturalism of north america to exist there has to be countries to give the stock peoples. If you go ahead and murica up Europe then there will be no European nationalities to draw the diversity from and thus these actions will end up harming the diversity that the left cares for so dearly. Only regressive cultists of the extreme left think actually replacing any white people is a good idea, the other liberal governments and organizations just seem to be ignorant of the issues their actions can cause. Although I have seen both current leaders of Canada and the USA give support to the cult mentality in spoken word so fuck humanity in the ass i guess welcome to your living hell.
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#71 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
Feminist Trudeau grilled after sexsegregated mosque visit I had a chat with my prof about the migrant crisis. He said the west wouldn't be having the problems its having if the population wasn't in decline. That's very worrying for me. Basically, have kids, or the government will import people to replace you, with no shits given in regards to the people, just gotta keep the economy going.

Day in and day out, I hear of more groups cropping up across the west, spouting nationalism, with more flocking to the "Alt-Right" by the day, while the media tries to blast it. I read that the number of KKK chapters in the states has tripled in the last year alone, which is both worrying and giving me hope for different reasons.

I don't want to support these sort of things, but self preservation and the preservation of Europeans and their descendants tells me its the only way. I just hope it doesn't fly off the deep end and end up in shower camps, but there's not many other options to reverse demographic change. I suppose you could give tax incentives and cash benefits to white families that have 2 or more kids, as racists as that is, but it needs to be done for preservation. Or you could go with mass deportations, but that's very difficult.

Either way, I've come to the conclusion that diversity is only good in moderation, and multiculturalism is a self defeating policy. At least it would seem that people are wisening up, do you have any idea how hard it is to find someone who actually supports Trudeau, and I'm in Sudbury ffs! European and Anglo-Sphere Nationalism is the way forward, and we're gunna have to toughen up and offend some people if we want to keep the diversity that the left hold in such high regard. Big changes are coming, at least I hope.
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#82 - tanuith (09/16/2016) [-]
Trudeau only got in cause people thought that nobody could be as bad as Harper. well we traded one kind of horrible for another it seems. The ndp might have been more insane if they got in but they're more about the people in general unlike Trudeau or Harper. Yeah the population decline is an issue, the sad thing is the minorities are celebrating it as if its a good thing. (mainly in the US) I get that the companies need workers but in order to keep things running you have to support the nations citizenry which seems to be lacking in a lot of governments these days. Despite being liberal and slightly socialist I support trump because he appears to (Could be a ruse) care about the common worker. whereas Hillary cares about the cult like Obama before her. Honestly I just hope that Europe sees the value in experienced labor as compared to mass labor imports.
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#27 - tanditsky (09/14/2016) [-]
It's not about being true, it was a complex issue that had points on both sides. Voting a certain way didn't mean you were any less or more a part of the country
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#28 - carlonord (09/14/2016) [-]
"I like to think" is the key phrase there.

Idk bud, it was a complex issue, for me it was pretty cut and dry that Leave needed to win. If for no other reason, than to have a chance of preventing native British from becoming minorities in their own country.
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#33 - tanditsky (09/14/2016) [-]
Well for me it was pretty clear we should stay because, as a resident one of the least white cities, we have no problem with immigration, it was just all daily mail hate mongering. The more improtant point were the trade and funding we're now going to lose from the EU that's going to just fuck us. The EU funded a huge referb on a major road that's given thousand of people jobs over the last 6 years, as well as massively reducing the amount of time it takes for someone to get from the north of England to the south of wales.
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#58 - Shramin (09/15/2016) [-]
The uk primarily trades with Asia and America, EU trade is maybe 10% and due to the share importance of the uk trade hub the EU will not drop that. From a buisness standpoint the uk only stands to gain from this.
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#72 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
Maybe the UK in general, but lots of small businesses rely on trade from Europe to restock, and they're going to get majorly fucked by this because it'll make everything so much more hard for no gain.
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#75 - Shramin (09/15/2016) [-]
Only in the regard that there will now be border taxes, EU cannot afford a total loss of trade revenue with the UK, the small businesses will be fine.

I am uncertain what you mean no gain, the UK's major issue with the EU was that its initial agreement was broken by the EU, since the UK wasn't allowed to dictate its own growth but was supposed to. The UK was one of the primary sources of money for the EU and it was costly, so what they have to gain now is a lot of that money for self growth instead of dumped into a system that is unwilling to be strict on countries not following the system (see Greece as an example).

EU needs to grow a backbone, it didn't and that is why the UK left.
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#77 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
But we won't have more money to spend, the leave campaign has already admitted they lied about the amount of money we would save from leaving, in fact in was the major talking point in the week after we left when the economy took a massive fall. The EU was mutually beneficial, everyone who was educated about the EU knew that, that's why almost every MP was in favour of remaining.

My major grievance with the Brexit campaign is that it was fought on immigration issues, with Farage and the leave vote constantly talking about stopping immigration to the point where people voted just purely off that one fact. This is so much the case that people around the world, like that carlonord, think that it's only an immigration issue. This ignorance surrounding the whole debate is caused by an over zealous, racist, leave vote and a terribly organised remain.
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#81 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
Don't call me ignorant, I'm aware that there's more too Brexit than that, I just think that in today's world, that's the most pressing issue. I'd live in a shanty town as long as I wasn't going to be replaced, because the economy can always recover, or adjust to the number of people it has. The west doesn't need immigrants, they need the west.
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#78 - Shramin (09/15/2016) [-]
They did not, one guy stated that it would not all go to the nhs as promised which is likely true. You also cannot look at earnings or spending as if things stay the same, keep in mind all the spending practises forced on the uk by the EU which can now be changed to be more local oriented and less costly.

Uk will be fine. Don't fall for the scare tactics.
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#44 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
So, you're fine with that, ancestral homeland, and you're fine with it being taken over by immigrants.

I don't particularly care about economy, I care about the people, the EU could've made every last person rich and was in the middle of sending us to another solar system, and I'd still say countries should get out because they're undermining your identity and replacing your population.
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#45 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
What do you even mean by identity? How far about are you looking? Exactly how long do families have to live in a country before they meet your standards? This country belongs to anyone who lives here, doesn't matter what their race or religion is. No ones history is being destroyed, it's history, can't change. Places evolve and develop over time, and I'm a firm believer that it doesn't matter who your mother or father were, everyone should be able to live here they want, do what they want, and have the same rights as anyone else.
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#46 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
Then enjoy a future without you, or anyone like you. Where everyone is brown with slightly squinty eyes, with dark hair and brown eyes, fat lips and wide noses.

Don't want to defend your people? Then prepare to lose anything that ever defined you or anyone like you. We'll all be the same, because every other race except the blacks are made of recessive traits. But who cares if we all die out, as long as we're not racist right? You disappoint me deeply, and just plain make me sad.

Africans will always have Africa, and there will always be Africans, but I suppose its natural selection if everyone else just wants to give up and die off.
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#74 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
And my race isn't everything that's ever defined me, you should make sure race isn't the only thing that defines you, take up sports or something
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#73 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
Why does it matter so much to you that people stay white? It is after all just skin deep man. If I married a Chinese girl and had mixed race kids would you consider me a race traitor? Because I'm not going to pick and chose who I have kids with to aid the preservation of the white race, that's fucked up. I really don't care if my neighbours are black or Asian or whatever, and I don't care if my kids are half Mexican or half French just as long they're half me.

And you're not my mum, I don't care if I disappoint you mate.
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#80 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
It doesn't matter to me so much that people stay white, it's more a matter of I want people to stay anything but black. As I said before, Africans possess the dominant alleles, so eventually, given enough time and assuming no other mutations appear, we'd all look like them, and this scares me.

I'm made up of entirely recessive genes, I'm a stupidly pale Irish guy, with pale blue eyes and dirty blonde hair that becomes golden in the summer. Among other traits, I am certifiably European, and I worry that its going to die out in a a century or two. Never again will anyone look like the old Europeans, instead, we'll all be similar to Asians and Africans, and then even the Asian traits lose out.

I want to preserve what makes our world's peoples different, our different languages, cultures, phenotypes, all of it. This wave of diversity and multiculturalism threatens everyone on the planet. As we become more and more homogenous in every aspect. You can see a small effect of this now, with American music and movies being global and everyone going to see them. This doesn't really matter to me, and is an example of interculturalism, which is fine by me. Its when you're importing millions upon millions of foreigners with different beliefs,values, and phenotypical traits that threaten the host country's demographic make up and central culture that things become an issue.

Let me be clear, I don't have a problem with immigrants, I have a problem with too many of them. I have a problem with interracial marriages, but its fine on small scale as it currently is. Both of these combined means that the host country can continue to function and keep its history. People identify with people like them, which is why the founding fathers are popular with White nationalists and MLK is popular with black ones.

I'm sure the globe would have a shit fit if Japanese were being replaced with Europeans, and no one would bat an eye if they were to shut down immigration and prevent marriage, but in the west? You're not allowed to want to preserve yourself, because that's racist, and makes you Hitler, and can cost you your career and home even.

You care about true diversity, you'd be thinking like me, not the melting pot that the elite are trying to make the world. I spoke to a mixed race fella that told me why he was against it. He's got a lot of bone problems, as his teeth don't fit in jaw, his eyes don't fit in his sockets, and his joints don't line up right. His doctor had told him it was different traits from the other races being picked almost at random, so you ended up with a person who's bones didn't quite fit together, and so he speaks out against interaccial marriage. As weak of an example that is, it's all I've got.

Idk bud, if you don't care then you don't care, I can't change your mind if you don't believe me, and I can't make you believe me. Hell, I don't even want to think this way, but I just can't get it off my mind recently. As a kid I never cared, but then I got older and I started seeing a lot of things, both IRL and online, and now I'm very worried. I went to Toronto, and a lot happened to be, just for being white, I'm the new Jew in a sense, and no one wants to speak out for me, except me. And when I speak out, its always claims of racism and bigotry, I just want different peoples to have futures, I don't want us all to become one race of dark skinned people with a mix of african/asian features.
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#85 - tanditsky (09/16/2016) [-]
Okay I'm not going to do a huge reply because I don't have time and frankly your last reply made me realise how racist you are and I cba to have a rational conversation with you.
I do have a point and a question that jumped out though.
First there's nothing about mixed race that gives genetic problems, in fact being mixed race makes you much less likely to have the sorts of problems you were deacribing, think about dogs, purebreds are massively inbred with generic problems out the ass and mongrels are usually much healthier.
Second, why do you keep saying replaced? No ones getting replaced, the only thing is your grandkids and great grandkids may be a different colour, that's not replacing anyone, no one has to leave ( unless you're leaving because you don't like all the brown people, but then that's your own fault ). Just don't worry about skin colour, it doesn't matter it's only skin deep, the people are all still the same underneath man.
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#87 - carlonord (09/16/2016) [-]
I've read some things that same black and white mixed kids are around 200% more likely to have heart problems, then something else that claimed to debunk that. This is a pattern with this sort of thing, and I'm no expert so I don't like to argue the point.

And that IS repayment. You said it yourself, in the future my kids may be brown. That's the thing you see? I think my kind are unique and beautiful. That's not to say I don't say the same for other races, but mine is at the largest risk of being wiped out if things continue. Any kids who are mixed do not inherit the traits of the European, unless both parents have European ancestry. Have you seen mixed people? They look nothing like Europeans, even the ones who mix with Asians. Look at Italians, nothing like Scandinavians even. But at least it's better than totally going brown.

It's replacement because the whole of the west is importing fuck tons of people, whom threaten our demographics and even our races. Not through malice, just them being here is enough. Where are our countries? Why does European or North America do this to their people? Look at Africa, where's all their diversity? Where all of Japan's? Why are people trying to get rid of us specifically?

You could argue that people just don't have to date anyone who's different, but you can't stop people who screw anything. And you think we're all the same underneath? And that nothing will change when we become the minority? You just watch, mark my words, you watch and see what happens. My grandpa warned me, he's been pretty accurate so far.

We'll die out, our countries changed, and it'll be the fault of people like you, too apathetic to care about it, whileven every other country on earth does. It's people like you who facilitate our demise as a race, and don't give me that bullshit that it doesn't exist, how else could scientists identify the race of a man from his bones alone?
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#88 - tanditsky (09/17/2016) [-]
You seem to be arguing that people who aren't white just aren't as good people, that's what I got from the part when you talked about when whites are a minority. What exactly do you think will change? The more multicultural a society gets, the more accepting people are from every race, and if you aren't going to go so far as to not let your kids date other races and just protest other people's kids doing it, well then you're just a lazy racist, and that's the worst kind of racist.
Yeah that's the thing about grandads, their views are so often outdated, not always, there's always value to get from what your elders say, but this time the value is showing us how much our views have changed for the more tolerant since the 50s (?)
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#89 - carlonord (09/17/2016) [-]
I'm not arguing that they aren't as good as me, nor that I am better or worse than then, I'm arguing that they're different. I grew out of the supremacy shit when I got old enough to realize it was retarded and basically unprovable if it was true.

As I've said, I worry people like me will simply be overwhelmed and have no where to go to be with our own kind. Our governments push hard to incorporate every culture in the world into our countries, but this brings us into conflict with the other cultures, resulting in clashes. This is particularly dangerous in the case of religions, but I don't think you need that explained to you.

I'm sure the goal is admirable, to bring about a world of tolerance, love, and peace. Which will never succeed but points for trying I guess. But in the process, they destroy what makes us all different. That diversity thing you hear championed all the time? That won't exist if multiculturalism and globalism are allowed to continue. Cultures change, sure, but melding them all into a single one will mean we're all the same, at least culturally, and we will change with that culture. That might be inevitable though as the internet has made it very difficult to keep fads isolated. Sure, the goal is to have them all live with each other, but that won't happen, cultures assimilate, fade out, and destroy each other all the time, and have done so since recorded history.

I don't hate the other races, I don't hate the other cultures. I just think they're growing too large in Canada and the West, to the point of upsetting our political and social structure. They're not doing this on purpose, its just what happens really. Already Canada has made changes to allow Sikhs to wear their turbans in the police force, not a big deal right? Except here my grandpa was, screaming at the TV, telling me how it was gunna start with that, then they're want more, and more, and more. Give an inch, take a mile, just look at Britain or the US if you want any sort of example really. In Britain, they've got Sharia courts which are supposed to handle disputes between muslims and muslims spouses. This is so dumb that it makes the people who put this in place seem like vegetables. This directly undermines the British state and parliament, and if you speak out about it, you're a racist.

I want to preserve my people, my culture, my skin colour, my eyes, my hair, my face, my people. The governments of the world appear hell-bent on destroying me and my kind. You could argue that it destroys all races, but it doesn't. Africa is almost 100% African, Asian is almost 100% Asian, Europe is about 90% European and dropping. America in 65% European and dropping, Canada is 80% European and dropping. Where will we have left? The percentages of Africans are going up in their own countries, the percentages of Asians are staying the same as their people protest against immigration. But if you protest against immigration here? Racist.

I don't want to die out, and what there to be a place for people like me in the future, I want a place for everyone in the future. We don't need to destroy what makes us different to do that. Variety is the spice of life, no? I would argue the same point if these other peoples were dying out, and I argue the same for the American Indian.
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#90 - tanditsky (09/17/2016) [-]
You won't die out man, you're skin colour won't change don't worry
What is it exactly that makes you want to be around white people so much? I've never heard of anyone want to be around people the same colour as them so much.
Whats wrong with Sikh police wearing turbans? The slippery slope argument is retarded, you can justify anything with it. (E.g. blacks marrying whites? What's next, Asians marrying rocks???)
That Sharia court thing is just untrue, read less daily mail
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#91 - carlonord (09/18/2016) [-]
I won't, my kind/phenotype may, that worries me. Evolution is one thing, extinction or inbreeding is another.

Its not that I want to be surrounded by only white people, its that that's what I expect when I go to Canada, the states, or Europe. I don't go to India to find Russians, or China to find Arabs. Like I said, I don't have a problem with these people, I have a problem with too many. Even the Dali Lama knows this, he's spoken out at the muslims in India, Burma, and Tibet. He has spoken about Germany and Europe, how they're taking in too many migrants, and how they must not allow their countries to become islamic. The modern Gandhi himself has said this.

I don't particularly have a problem with it, but I certainly see the logic there, especially as the resident minority groups start clamour for more rights and power. Muslims in Toronto tried petitioning for Sharia courts, mayor told them to fuck off. A muslim political figure/VIP in Quebec told a female politician that he will make sure that she will be will be wearing a burka in the future.

Seen it more places than Daily mail, had it confirmed by people I know in the UK too.
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#92 - tanditsky (09/18/2016) [-]
Inbreeding? You're worried that Muslims will inbreed white people out of the country?

What does the Dali lama have to do with this? He's pretty left wing so I reckon I could find a few quotes you would fervently disagree with that he's said. Also who are you calling the modern ghandi?

Well I don't know about those cases, based off your record of facts from Britain though I'm a bit suspicious about their validity, the point is when a group is underrepresented, they're going to want more power in the government. This is fair. All citizens from a country should be represented, that's the politicians job.

Well let me just put that to bed now, it is 100% bollocks
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#94 - carlonord (09/19/2016) [-]
Not muslims, everyone. Asians, Indians, you name it, then make us become a minority in the country our ancestors founded and made. Though that may not even apply to me, since as far as I know, my families came over around the time of the potato famine, maybe a bit later or earlier. Hard to pin down really, since I'm so mixed. Irish, Swedish, Scottish, German, and possibly some French, makes it hard to track. Muslims, in particular Arabs and Middle Easterners have their homeland, I'm under threat of losing mine. The best I've got is to go back to Europe, to Ireland most likely, but I'm not sure. And even then, I've found hat there's a good chance that in many countries, among them Britain, Germany, Sweden, and France, that the natives are set to be minorities in their own countries in less than 50 years. That's fucked up, and don't tell me they'll assimilate, you know full well they won't. The Polish in Britain haven't even assimilated, and they're European!

I don't care what "wing" someone is, its only as good as a stereotype really. Its that he came out at said that Germany and Europe need to start turning away refugees, deporting the troublemakers, and making preparations to house real refugees until the problem has been resolved. I probably would disagree with him in some places, as I disagree with many historical and political figures, but I'm not afraid to say someone is right when they're right, or are in my opinion at least. And I call him the modern Gandhi because that's the impression I get from him, perhaps I'm wrong.

I apologize, I can't seem to find the video I had seen that had the muslim man saying that. I have this; www.torontosun.com/2016/01/09/pro-sharia-group-in-canada-is-political-party but its the equivalent of of saying look at these nutters I suppose. I've seen videos of muslims in Toronto saying that Canada's age of consent means nothing because the Koran says its ok (I can't find this one either, I'm serious I've seen this shit), I've experienced myself firsthand what happens when groups like them start to take over. When I was in Toronto, I got taken in by my college for racist remarks, asked a chinese guy I met if he spoke mandarin, cause he was sunburned orange. While I was there, I asked the lady what I should do if I hear someone call me a cracker or of the sort, and that I had already been called that. She told me to just put up with it, because I'm white, and they're minorities. Those were her words, and had I recorded that I would've sued them to death. And true, all citizens should be represented, but I don't want them to be here in the first place, because they grow, gain power, and that's the end of it. Happened to the French in Quebec too, when the Irish and British started coming over. We took over, they got stuck in that province.

I'll take your word for now, heard people say Daily is bad news, but not sure what to say about the guys who told me.

At the end of the day, its a war on our homogeneity, our people, under the flag of tolerance and love. People think its harmless and fine, but here's the thing. There's a lot of them, and less of us each year. Where is our home? Where do we go to be with our own kind? If I was Chinese, I could go to China, I could go to the homeland, be with people who might not think the same or act the same, but I wouldn't stand out. IF I was. I want to have a homeland, for me and my people, not every bastard on the globe to come and claim. Its mine, for me and my kids. How bout we open up the floodgates to Japan for millions of Africans? Could you imagine the shitstorm?
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#68 - tanuith (09/15/2016) [-]
I am unsure as to why people have a problem with nationalism. I live in Canada a country comprised of various immigrants from various places but in order for the multiculturalism of north america to exist there has to be countries to give the stock peoples. If you go ahead and murica up Europe then there will be no European nationalities to draw the diversity from and thus these actions will end up harming the diversity that the left cares for so dearly. Only regressive cultists of the extreme left think actually replacing any white people is a good idea, the other liberal governments and organizations just seem to be ignorant of the issues their actions can cause. Although I have seen both current leaders of Canada and the USA give support to the cult mentality in spoken word so fuck humanity in the ass i guess welcome to your living hell.
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#71 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
Feminist Trudeau grilled after sexsegregated mosque visit I had a chat with my prof about the migrant crisis. He said the west wouldn't be having the problems its having if the population wasn't in decline. That's very worrying for me. Basically, have kids, or the government will import people to replace you, with no shits given in regards to the people, just gotta keep the economy going.

Day in and day out, I hear of more groups cropping up across the west, spouting nationalism, with more flocking to the "Alt-Right" by the day, while the media tries to blast it. I read that the number of KKK chapters in the states has tripled in the last year alone, which is both worrying and giving me hope for different reasons.

I don't want to support these sort of things, but self preservation and the preservation of Europeans and their descendants tells me its the only way. I just hope it doesn't fly off the deep end and end up in shower camps, but there's not many other options to reverse demographic change. I suppose you could give tax incentives and cash benefits to white families that have 2 or more kids, as racists as that is, but it needs to be done for preservation. Or you could go with mass deportations, but that's very difficult.

Either way, I've come to the conclusion that diversity is only good in moderation, and multiculturalism is a self defeating policy. At least it would seem that people are wisening up, do you have any idea how hard it is to find someone who actually supports Trudeau, and I'm in Sudbury ffs! European and Anglo-Sphere Nationalism is the way forward, and we're gunna have to toughen up and offend some people if we want to keep the diversity that the left hold in such high regard. Big changes are coming, at least I hope.
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#82 - tanuith (09/16/2016) [-]
Trudeau only got in cause people thought that nobody could be as bad as Harper. well we traded one kind of horrible for another it seems. The ndp might have been more insane if they got in but they're more about the people in general unlike Trudeau or Harper. Yeah the population decline is an issue, the sad thing is the minorities are celebrating it as if its a good thing. (mainly in the US) I get that the companies need workers but in order to keep things running you have to support the nations citizenry which seems to be lacking in a lot of governments these days. Despite being liberal and slightly socialist I support trump because he appears to (Could be a ruse) care about the common worker. whereas Hillary cares about the cult like Obama before her. Honestly I just hope that Europe sees the value in experienced labor as compared to mass labor imports.
#24 - The EU REALLLLLYYYYY didn't want them to leave.  [+] (28 replies) 09/14/2016 on What a fitting "PUNISHMENT" +5
#25 - dudulli (09/14/2016) [-]
That's true but it "only" took a referendum to leave (in the future).
The real fight was getting that and "winning" it, which was internal UK business.
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#26 - carlonord (09/14/2016) [-]
True, I'll give ya that. I like to think of it as a matter of fighting between the EU and true sovereign Brits.
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#27 - tanditsky (09/14/2016) [-]
It's not about being true, it was a complex issue that had points on both sides. Voting a certain way didn't mean you were any less or more a part of the country
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#28 - carlonord (09/14/2016) [-]
"I like to think" is the key phrase there.

Idk bud, it was a complex issue, for me it was pretty cut and dry that Leave needed to win. If for no other reason, than to have a chance of preventing native British from becoming minorities in their own country.
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#33 - tanditsky (09/14/2016) [-]
Well for me it was pretty clear we should stay because, as a resident one of the least white cities, we have no problem with immigration, it was just all daily mail hate mongering. The more improtant point were the trade and funding we're now going to lose from the EU that's going to just fuck us. The EU funded a huge referb on a major road that's given thousand of people jobs over the last 6 years, as well as massively reducing the amount of time it takes for someone to get from the north of England to the south of wales.
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#58 - Shramin (09/15/2016) [-]
The uk primarily trades with Asia and America, EU trade is maybe 10% and due to the share importance of the uk trade hub the EU will not drop that. From a buisness standpoint the uk only stands to gain from this.
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#72 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
Maybe the UK in general, but lots of small businesses rely on trade from Europe to restock, and they're going to get majorly fucked by this because it'll make everything so much more hard for no gain.
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#75 - Shramin (09/15/2016) [-]
Only in the regard that there will now be border taxes, EU cannot afford a total loss of trade revenue with the UK, the small businesses will be fine.

I am uncertain what you mean no gain, the UK's major issue with the EU was that its initial agreement was broken by the EU, since the UK wasn't allowed to dictate its own growth but was supposed to. The UK was one of the primary sources of money for the EU and it was costly, so what they have to gain now is a lot of that money for self growth instead of dumped into a system that is unwilling to be strict on countries not following the system (see Greece as an example).

EU needs to grow a backbone, it didn't and that is why the UK left.
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#77 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
But we won't have more money to spend, the leave campaign has already admitted they lied about the amount of money we would save from leaving, in fact in was the major talking point in the week after we left when the economy took a massive fall. The EU was mutually beneficial, everyone who was educated about the EU knew that, that's why almost every MP was in favour of remaining.

My major grievance with the Brexit campaign is that it was fought on immigration issues, with Farage and the leave vote constantly talking about stopping immigration to the point where people voted just purely off that one fact. This is so much the case that people around the world, like that carlonord, think that it's only an immigration issue. This ignorance surrounding the whole debate is caused by an over zealous, racist, leave vote and a terribly organised remain.
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#81 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
Don't call me ignorant, I'm aware that there's more too Brexit than that, I just think that in today's world, that's the most pressing issue. I'd live in a shanty town as long as I wasn't going to be replaced, because the economy can always recover, or adjust to the number of people it has. The west doesn't need immigrants, they need the west.
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#78 - Shramin (09/15/2016) [-]
They did not, one guy stated that it would not all go to the nhs as promised which is likely true. You also cannot look at earnings or spending as if things stay the same, keep in mind all the spending practises forced on the uk by the EU which can now be changed to be more local oriented and less costly.

Uk will be fine. Don't fall for the scare tactics.
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#44 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
So, you're fine with that, ancestral homeland, and you're fine with it being taken over by immigrants.

I don't particularly care about economy, I care about the people, the EU could've made every last person rich and was in the middle of sending us to another solar system, and I'd still say countries should get out because they're undermining your identity and replacing your population.
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#45 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
What do you even mean by identity? How far about are you looking? Exactly how long do families have to live in a country before they meet your standards? This country belongs to anyone who lives here, doesn't matter what their race or religion is. No ones history is being destroyed, it's history, can't change. Places evolve and develop over time, and I'm a firm believer that it doesn't matter who your mother or father were, everyone should be able to live here they want, do what they want, and have the same rights as anyone else.
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#46 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
Then enjoy a future without you, or anyone like you. Where everyone is brown with slightly squinty eyes, with dark hair and brown eyes, fat lips and wide noses.

Don't want to defend your people? Then prepare to lose anything that ever defined you or anyone like you. We'll all be the same, because every other race except the blacks are made of recessive traits. But who cares if we all die out, as long as we're not racist right? You disappoint me deeply, and just plain make me sad.

Africans will always have Africa, and there will always be Africans, but I suppose its natural selection if everyone else just wants to give up and die off.
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#74 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
And my race isn't everything that's ever defined me, you should make sure race isn't the only thing that defines you, take up sports or something
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#73 - tanditsky (09/15/2016) [-]
Why does it matter so much to you that people stay white? It is after all just skin deep man. If I married a Chinese girl and had mixed race kids would you consider me a race traitor? Because I'm not going to pick and chose who I have kids with to aid the preservation of the white race, that's fucked up. I really don't care if my neighbours are black or Asian or whatever, and I don't care if my kids are half Mexican or half French just as long they're half me.

And you're not my mum, I don't care if I disappoint you mate.
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#80 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
It doesn't matter to me so much that people stay white, it's more a matter of I want people to stay anything but black. As I said before, Africans possess the dominant alleles, so eventually, given enough time and assuming no other mutations appear, we'd all look like them, and this scares me.

I'm made up of entirely recessive genes, I'm a stupidly pale Irish guy, with pale blue eyes and dirty blonde hair that becomes golden in the summer. Among other traits, I am certifiably European, and I worry that its going to die out in a a century or two. Never again will anyone look like the old Europeans, instead, we'll all be similar to Asians and Africans, and then even the Asian traits lose out.

I want to preserve what makes our world's peoples different, our different languages, cultures, phenotypes, all of it. This wave of diversity and multiculturalism threatens everyone on the planet. As we become more and more homogenous in every aspect. You can see a small effect of this now, with American music and movies being global and everyone going to see them. This doesn't really matter to me, and is an example of interculturalism, which is fine by me. Its when you're importing millions upon millions of foreigners with different beliefs,values, and phenotypical traits that threaten the host country's demographic make up and central culture that things become an issue.

Let me be clear, I don't have a problem with immigrants, I have a problem with too many of them. I have a problem with interracial marriages, but its fine on small scale as it currently is. Both of these combined means that the host country can continue to function and keep its history. People identify with people like them, which is why the founding fathers are popular with White nationalists and MLK is popular with black ones.

I'm sure the globe would have a shit fit if Japanese were being replaced with Europeans, and no one would bat an eye if they were to shut down immigration and prevent marriage, but in the west? You're not allowed to want to preserve yourself, because that's racist, and makes you Hitler, and can cost you your career and home even.

You care about true diversity, you'd be thinking like me, not the melting pot that the elite are trying to make the world. I spoke to a mixed race fella that told me why he was against it. He's got a lot of bone problems, as his teeth don't fit in jaw, his eyes don't fit in his sockets, and his joints don't line up right. His doctor had told him it was different traits from the other races being picked almost at random, so you ended up with a person who's bones didn't quite fit together, and so he speaks out against interaccial marriage. As weak of an example that is, it's all I've got.

Idk bud, if you don't care then you don't care, I can't change your mind if you don't believe me, and I can't make you believe me. Hell, I don't even want to think this way, but I just can't get it off my mind recently. As a kid I never cared, but then I got older and I started seeing a lot of things, both IRL and online, and now I'm very worried. I went to Toronto, and a lot happened to be, just for being white, I'm the new Jew in a sense, and no one wants to speak out for me, except me. And when I speak out, its always claims of racism and bigotry, I just want different peoples to have futures, I don't want us all to become one race of dark skinned people with a mix of african/asian features.
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#85 - tanditsky (09/16/2016) [-]
Okay I'm not going to do a huge reply because I don't have time and frankly your last reply made me realise how racist you are and I cba to have a rational conversation with you.
I do have a point and a question that jumped out though.
First there's nothing about mixed race that gives genetic problems, in fact being mixed race makes you much less likely to have the sorts of problems you were deacribing, think about dogs, purebreds are massively inbred with generic problems out the ass and mongrels are usually much healthier.
Second, why do you keep saying replaced? No ones getting replaced, the only thing is your grandkids and great grandkids may be a different colour, that's not replacing anyone, no one has to leave ( unless you're leaving because you don't like all the brown people, but then that's your own fault ). Just don't worry about skin colour, it doesn't matter it's only skin deep, the people are all still the same underneath man.
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#87 - carlonord (09/16/2016) [-]
I've read some things that same black and white mixed kids are around 200% more likely to have heart problems, then something else that claimed to debunk that. This is a pattern with this sort of thing, and I'm no expert so I don't like to argue the point.

And that IS repayment. You said it yourself, in the future my kids may be brown. That's the thing you see? I think my kind are unique and beautiful. That's not to say I don't say the same for other races, but mine is at the largest risk of being wiped out if things continue. Any kids who are mixed do not inherit the traits of the European, unless both parents have European ancestry. Have you seen mixed people? They look nothing like Europeans, even the ones who mix with Asians. Look at Italians, nothing like Scandinavians even. But at least it's better than totally going brown.

It's replacement because the whole of the west is importing fuck tons of people, whom threaten our demographics and even our races. Not through malice, just them being here is enough. Where are our countries? Why does European or North America do this to their people? Look at Africa, where's all their diversity? Where all of Japan's? Why are people trying to get rid of us specifically?

You could argue that people just don't have to date anyone who's different, but you can't stop people who screw anything. And you think we're all the same underneath? And that nothing will change when we become the minority? You just watch, mark my words, you watch and see what happens. My grandpa warned me, he's been pretty accurate so far.

We'll die out, our countries changed, and it'll be the fault of people like you, too apathetic to care about it, whileven every other country on earth does. It's people like you who facilitate our demise as a race, and don't give me that bullshit that it doesn't exist, how else could scientists identify the race of a man from his bones alone?
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#88 - tanditsky (09/17/2016) [-]
You seem to be arguing that people who aren't white just aren't as good people, that's what I got from the part when you talked about when whites are a minority. What exactly do you think will change? The more multicultural a society gets, the more accepting people are from every race, and if you aren't going to go so far as to not let your kids date other races and just protest other people's kids doing it, well then you're just a lazy racist, and that's the worst kind of racist.
Yeah that's the thing about grandads, their views are so often outdated, not always, there's always value to get from what your elders say, but this time the value is showing us how much our views have changed for the more tolerant since the 50s (?)
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#89 - carlonord (09/17/2016) [-]
I'm not arguing that they aren't as good as me, nor that I am better or worse than then, I'm arguing that they're different. I grew out of the supremacy shit when I got old enough to realize it was retarded and basically unprovable if it was true.

As I've said, I worry people like me will simply be overwhelmed and have no where to go to be with our own kind. Our governments push hard to incorporate every culture in the world into our countries, but this brings us into conflict with the other cultures, resulting in clashes. This is particularly dangerous in the case of religions, but I don't think you need that explained to you.

I'm sure the goal is admirable, to bring about a world of tolerance, love, and peace. Which will never succeed but points for trying I guess. But in the process, they destroy what makes us all different. That diversity thing you hear championed all the time? That won't exist if multiculturalism and globalism are allowed to continue. Cultures change, sure, but melding them all into a single one will mean we're all the same, at least culturally, and we will change with that culture. That might be inevitable though as the internet has made it very difficult to keep fads isolated. Sure, the goal is to have them all live with each other, but that won't happen, cultures assimilate, fade out, and destroy each other all the time, and have done so since recorded history.

I don't hate the other races, I don't hate the other cultures. I just think they're growing too large in Canada and the West, to the point of upsetting our political and social structure. They're not doing this on purpose, its just what happens really. Already Canada has made changes to allow Sikhs to wear their turbans in the police force, not a big deal right? Except here my grandpa was, screaming at the TV, telling me how it was gunna start with that, then they're want more, and more, and more. Give an inch, take a mile, just look at Britain or the US if you want any sort of example really. In Britain, they've got Sharia courts which are supposed to handle disputes between muslims and muslims spouses. This is so dumb that it makes the people who put this in place seem like vegetables. This directly undermines the British state and parliament, and if you speak out about it, you're a racist.

I want to preserve my people, my culture, my skin colour, my eyes, my hair, my face, my people. The governments of the world appear hell-bent on destroying me and my kind. You could argue that it destroys all races, but it doesn't. Africa is almost 100% African, Asian is almost 100% Asian, Europe is about 90% European and dropping. America in 65% European and dropping, Canada is 80% European and dropping. Where will we have left? The percentages of Africans are going up in their own countries, the percentages of Asians are staying the same as their people protest against immigration. But if you protest against immigration here? Racist.

I don't want to die out, and what there to be a place for people like me in the future, I want a place for everyone in the future. We don't need to destroy what makes us different to do that. Variety is the spice of life, no? I would argue the same point if these other peoples were dying out, and I argue the same for the American Indian.
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#90 - tanditsky (09/17/2016) [-]
You won't die out man, you're skin colour won't change don't worry
What is it exactly that makes you want to be around white people so much? I've never heard of anyone want to be around people the same colour as them so much.
Whats wrong with Sikh police wearing turbans? The slippery slope argument is retarded, you can justify anything with it. (E.g. blacks marrying whites? What's next, Asians marrying rocks???)
That Sharia court thing is just untrue, read less daily mail
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#91 - carlonord (09/18/2016) [-]
I won't, my kind/phenotype may, that worries me. Evolution is one thing, extinction or inbreeding is another.

Its not that I want to be surrounded by only white people, its that that's what I expect when I go to Canada, the states, or Europe. I don't go to India to find Russians, or China to find Arabs. Like I said, I don't have a problem with these people, I have a problem with too many. Even the Dali Lama knows this, he's spoken out at the muslims in India, Burma, and Tibet. He has spoken about Germany and Europe, how they're taking in too many migrants, and how they must not allow their countries to become islamic. The modern Gandhi himself has said this.

I don't particularly have a problem with it, but I certainly see the logic there, especially as the resident minority groups start clamour for more rights and power. Muslims in Toronto tried petitioning for Sharia courts, mayor told them to fuck off. A muslim political figure/VIP in Quebec told a female politician that he will make sure that she will be will be wearing a burka in the future.

Seen it more places than Daily mail, had it confirmed by people I know in the UK too.
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#92 - tanditsky (09/18/2016) [-]
Inbreeding? You're worried that Muslims will inbreed white people out of the country?

What does the Dali lama have to do with this? He's pretty left wing so I reckon I could find a few quotes you would fervently disagree with that he's said. Also who are you calling the modern ghandi?

Well I don't know about those cases, based off your record of facts from Britain though I'm a bit suspicious about their validity, the point is when a group is underrepresented, they're going to want more power in the government. This is fair. All citizens from a country should be represented, that's the politicians job.

Well let me just put that to bed now, it is 100% bollocks
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#94 - carlonord (09/19/2016) [-]
Not muslims, everyone. Asians, Indians, you name it, then make us become a minority in the country our ancestors founded and made. Though that may not even apply to me, since as far as I know, my families came over around the time of the potato famine, maybe a bit later or earlier. Hard to pin down really, since I'm so mixed. Irish, Swedish, Scottish, German, and possibly some French, makes it hard to track. Muslims, in particular Arabs and Middle Easterners have their homeland, I'm under threat of losing mine. The best I've got is to go back to Europe, to Ireland most likely, but I'm not sure. And even then, I've found hat there's a good chance that in many countries, among them Britain, Germany, Sweden, and France, that the natives are set to be minorities in their own countries in less than 50 years. That's fucked up, and don't tell me they'll assimilate, you know full well they won't. The Polish in Britain haven't even assimilated, and they're European!

I don't care what "wing" someone is, its only as good as a stereotype really. Its that he came out at said that Germany and Europe need to start turning away refugees, deporting the troublemakers, and making preparations to house real refugees until the problem has been resolved. I probably would disagree with him in some places, as I disagree with many historical and political figures, but I'm not afraid to say someone is right when they're right, or are in my opinion at least. And I call him the modern Gandhi because that's the impression I get from him, perhaps I'm wrong.

I apologize, I can't seem to find the video I had seen that had the muslim man saying that. I have this; www.torontosun.com/2016/01/09/pro-sharia-group-in-canada-is-political-party but its the equivalent of of saying look at these nutters I suppose. I've seen videos of muslims in Toronto saying that Canada's age of consent means nothing because the Koran says its ok (I can't find this one either, I'm serious I've seen this shit), I've experienced myself firsthand what happens when groups like them start to take over. When I was in Toronto, I got taken in by my college for racist remarks, asked a chinese guy I met if he spoke mandarin, cause he was sunburned orange. While I was there, I asked the lady what I should do if I hear someone call me a cracker or of the sort, and that I had already been called that. She told me to just put up with it, because I'm white, and they're minorities. Those were her words, and had I recorded that I would've sued them to death. And true, all citizens should be represented, but I don't want them to be here in the first place, because they grow, gain power, and that's the end of it. Happened to the French in Quebec too, when the Irish and British started coming over. We took over, they got stuck in that province.

I'll take your word for now, heard people say Daily is bad news, but not sure what to say about the guys who told me.

At the end of the day, its a war on our homogeneity, our people, under the flag of tolerance and love. People think its harmless and fine, but here's the thing. There's a lot of them, and less of us each year. Where is our home? Where do we go to be with our own kind? If I was Chinese, I could go to China, I could go to the homeland, be with people who might not think the same or act the same, but I wouldn't stand out. IF I was. I want to have a homeland, for me and my people, not every bastard on the globe to come and claim. Its mine, for me and my kids. How bout we open up the floodgates to Japan for millions of Africans? Could you imagine the shitstorm?
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#68 - tanuith (09/15/2016) [-]
I am unsure as to why people have a problem with nationalism. I live in Canada a country comprised of various immigrants from various places but in order for the multiculturalism of north america to exist there has to be countries to give the stock peoples. If you go ahead and murica up Europe then there will be no European nationalities to draw the diversity from and thus these actions will end up harming the diversity that the left cares for so dearly. Only regressive cultists of the extreme left think actually replacing any white people is a good idea, the other liberal governments and organizations just seem to be ignorant of the issues their actions can cause. Although I have seen both current leaders of Canada and the USA give support to the cult mentality in spoken word so fuck humanity in the ass i guess welcome to your living hell.
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#71 - carlonord (09/15/2016) [-]
Feminist Trudeau grilled after sexsegregated mosque visit I had a chat with my prof about the migrant crisis. He said the west wouldn't be having the problems its having if the population wasn't in decline. That's very worrying for me. Basically, have kids, or the government will import people to replace you, with no shits given in regards to the people, just gotta keep the economy going.

Day in and day out, I hear of more groups cropping up across the west, spouting nationalism, with more flocking to the "Alt-Right" by the day, while the media tries to blast it. I read that the number of KKK chapters in the states has tripled in the last year alone, which is both worrying and giving me hope for different reasons.

I don't want to support these sort of things, but self preservation and the preservation of Europeans and their descendants tells me its the only way. I just hope it doesn't fly off the deep end and end up in shower camps, but there's not many other options to reverse demographic change. I suppose you could give tax incentives and cash benefits to white families that have 2 or more kids, as racists as that is, but it needs to be done for preservation. Or you could go with mass deportations, but that's very difficult.

Either way, I've come to the conclusion that diversity is only good in moderation, and multiculturalism is a self defeating policy. At least it would seem that people are wisening up, do you have any idea how hard it is to find someone who actually supports Trudeau, and I'm in Sudbury ffs! European and Anglo-Sphere Nationalism is the way forward, and we're gunna have to toughen up and offend some people if we want to keep the diversity that the left hold in such high regard. Big changes are coming, at least I hope.
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#82 - tanuith (09/16/2016) [-]
Trudeau only got in cause people thought that nobody could be as bad as Harper. well we traded one kind of horrible for another it seems. The ndp might have been more insane if they got in but they're more about the people in general unlike Trudeau or Harper. Yeah the population decline is an issue, the sad thing is the minorities are celebrating it as if its a good thing. (mainly in the US) I get that the companies need workers but in order to keep things running you have to support the nations citizenry which seems to be lacking in a lot of governments these days. Despite being liberal and slightly socialist I support trump because he appears to (Could be a ruse) care about the common worker. whereas Hillary cares about the cult like Obama before her. Honestly I just hope that Europe sees the value in experienced labor as compared to mass labor imports.
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#143 - vilobikee (09/14/2016) [-]
im not salty though i just said the meta is around the level he is sorry if what i said looked salty
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#22 - skebaba (09/14/2016) [-]
Beerhouse uprising?
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#14 - ivanthesronk (09/14/2016) [-]
You are doing stuff for a cause that you believe in, I respect that. Also thanks for the good advice. I also for some reason want to retake Constantinople (Istanbul) and return Hagia Sofia to a orthodox church.
#13 - austinrocket (09/14/2016) [-]
Sounds like you're making stuff happen! We need more people like you to show that the situation really can be reversed here.