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#14 - It really depends just how strong the UFC fighters are. …  [+] (26 replies) 09/22/2015 on Thing vs. Another Thing +51
#62 - anon (09/23/2015) [-]
Who told you is 1vs10? dividing the numbers doesn´t mean shit in a royal rumble gorilla battle, they goin´ to kick all those asses without givin´them a chance to even think what just happened
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#63 - captainfuckitall (09/23/2015) [-]
Then it would be 200 vs. 1 because Alpha Gorillas do not go near eachother.
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#35 - mrevitcartta (09/23/2015) [-]
consider the ufc roster isn't just gigantic muscle bound men. many of the fighters in the roster belong to the welterweight (170lb.) and smaller divisions.
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#36 - captainfuckitall (09/23/2015) [-]
That doesn't change what I've said, though.
#33 - ehwaz (09/23/2015) [-]
Something that would nearly cripple a human may not phase a silverback alpha. They are able to rip a car door off its hinges easily when in a fit of rage. So I'd imagine a full swing back hand from one would shatter ribs and smash anything under it without slowing it down at all.
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#34 - captainfuckitall (09/23/2015) [-]
You could be a literal demi-god and still require eyes to see. If someone juts them out, you're in a bad state.
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#105 - ninjaroo (09/23/2015) [-]
>>#101, ran out of space.
Humans are the exception, not the rule. We've been living in cushy little shelters for most of our species existence, using weapons that advance faster than our biology. We developed to enhance our intelligence. Gorillas, on the other hand, have been lumbering around on the ground for millennia. You clearly underestimate the gorilla skull. They don't stand up like us, and their skull is real fuckin heavy, especially with all that flesh hanging off it. They have more muscle to hold up their head than you or I do in our arms, and it attaches all the way over to the top of their head.

In short, the human skull can't house the brain and be as tough as a gorillas. The compromise just wasn't worth it.

If you intend to mortally wound a gorilla by jabbing it with a stick, I got bad news for you son. Gorilla hide is stronger than a stick, not to mention they comprehend tools. If you stab it and it hurts, it'll know to break things you have in your hand. Plus, hitting its eyes is going to be real fuckin hard with that massive ridge of bone they have protruding in front of their sockets. Ears I will grant you, but I don't think they hang off the way ours do, and isn't a fight winner anyway.

Yeah, they avoid conflict because there's nothing for them to gain in it. My point stands that a silverback gorilla knows how to fight.

I didn't say they'd team up. They're intelligent enough to stick together, and I see no reason to say they wouldn't when they already do that in the wild.
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#174 - captainfuckitall (09/23/2015) [-]
Okay.
#37 - ehwaz (09/23/2015) [-]
Assuming you can get close enough to a beast as big and fast as a silver back to get at it's eyes.
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#38 - captainfuckitall (09/23/2015) [-]
Assuming 10 people within arm's reach of something can't blind it if they try hard enough.

Come on, man. Stop sucking gorilla dick.
#39 - ehwaz (09/23/2015) [-]
>.> Their arms are as long as our legs. Animals tend to fight purely off reaction and instinct. One jumps on the back of the gorilla it starts thrashing and trying to get a hold of the human. Human struggles to hold on as a normal head lock doesn't work and either falls of or gets thrown off/slammed.
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#42 - captainfuckitall (09/23/2015) [-]
Yes, so he starts reaching for the guy on his back as NINE OTHER ATHLETES go for his eyes.

What about this are you not understanding?
#43 - ehwaz (09/23/2015) [-]
Again...assuming the gorilla is just going to sit there as something jumps on its back.

Human athletes trained to fight other athletes...going up against an untrained yet still insanely stronger and faster animal whom we have never seen at their true full strength.
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#44 - captainfuckitall (09/23/2015) [-]
It only has two eyes and lacks 360 degree vision, faggot. What, do you expect it to sixth-sense and teleport it's ass out of there? How many times have you concentrated on 9 things trying to hurt you and suddenly knew when something was behind you?

You're talking as if these gorillas are hidden-super-sayin-ultimate-warlords. They're not. They're gorillas and still suffer the exact same limitations as a man. Are they stronger? Yes. Faster? Yes. Smarter? Fuck no. And yet it still only has two arms and two legs and two eyes. If it's currently doing shit with its two arms and looking at shit with its two eyes, it's not going to do a very good job noticing/fighting off someone about to jump on its back.
#46 - ehwaz (09/23/2015) [-]
When did I say it had 360 vision or the ability to teleport?

If you go back and read what I said..shit I'll put here for you!

"One jumps on the back of the gorilla it starts thrashing and trying to get a hold of the human."

Notice how I said "..jumps on the back..." That isn't implying a heightened level of shit other than reaction speed.

I just understand that a something that is far stronger than us by default even when we aim to be as strong as possible. They aren't super smart, or able to see all around them, but their size, weight, raw strength, speed, and endurance is on another level of that over a humans. Even if the fight is a ten to one the gorilla is going to easily rip apart any human that gets close to it.
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#50 - captainfuckitall (09/23/2015) [-]
To further my argument, humans have been known to lift cars right off the ground in times of duress as well.

Gods damn, we've all seen videos of people getting run over by a speeding car, and then the person (usually children, interestingly enough) get up nearly unscathed. Silverbacks don't exactly hit you at 80 MPH.
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#49 - captainfuckitall (09/23/2015) [-]
Because you're acting as if it's completely impossible for 10 different people to reach the eyes of a being with only two damn arms, including by using stealth or ambush tactics.

I think you're completely underestimating how tough a human can actually be. No, a human one on one isn't going to beat a Gorilla, but it's still going to take a few minutes to actually rip the human's limbs off. It gives plenty of time for other ambush tactics, using rocks, striking weak-points, etc...

It's as if you expect all 10 fighters to charge and instantly be downed by a single swing of their arm. Yeah, Silverbacks are strong, but not THAT strong.
#51 - ehwaz (09/23/2015) [-]
One charges in and gets either slapped away, slammed, or rushed.

Others try to surround it, some grabbing a rock others a long think branch.

First guy is either incapacitated in some way or manages to avoid the ape.

Others try to strike from multiple side, some land hits but do nothing. Others start throwing rocks. Making ape run into the brush.

Some chase after while others say stay together. A scream is heard as the ape manages to ambush the few that chase. Others come back to group.

Ape comes out either dragging the one he got or shows signs of letting some blood. This weakens the resolve of humans left standing causing fear to rise. We all know fear is a wonderful thing in a fight, even though the ape doesn't understand it at all.

Ape either beats his chest and roars or charges at the group making them scatter. In fear one or more is unable to move and gets slammed into and is either beat a few times or just knocked over as the ape goes for the biggest guy.

Need I go on...or are you going to provide something along the lines that fighters trained to fight alone some how become Spartans and know how to keep a 400 pound beast from breaking the line?
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#54 - captainfuckitall (09/23/2015) [-]
Also, your scenario is formed as if the gorilla is being charged by one fighter at a time, vs. fucking 10.

Stop being stupid.
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#53 - captainfuckitall (09/23/2015) [-]
Yes you need to go on, because this entire scenario in your head is based completely off of what you THINK might happen and how they might act, not what they'll actually do.

The scenario was 10 fighters vs. 1 ape, not 1 fighter vs. 1 ape because the rest run away due to fear. Fuck off with that shit.

There isn't a line that needs being held because none are formed. Obviously they're not going to try to tank the damn thing.

How about 2 guys each try to restrain an arm (failing, obviously), 5 throw things, and one jumps on the back to gouge out its eyes during the whole process.

I know you haven't exactly read military tactics, but it's not exactly a master plan I've come up with. Literally anyone with basic skills in anatomy and fighting knows it's good to go for the eyes.
#55 - ehwaz (09/23/2015) [-]
Sooo....what you're saying is that I need to give numbers instead of using vague terms like 'some do this thing and others do this thing'? You seem to be stuck on me thinking it's a single guy against a single ape. If you can't get past that part then I don't want to keep going with someone that has trouble reading. Have a good day/night.
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#56 - captainfuckitall (09/23/2015) [-]
That sounds like someone desperately trying to back out of an argument.

Whatever floats your boat. I'm content with winning.
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#91 - ninjaroo (09/23/2015) [-]
For one, you guys are both ignoring that it's not ten guys to one ape. It's 200+ against 20 apes. That changes the whole game.

If the gorillas are aware they're being attacked, and for whatever reason know they're on the same side, they'll group together. I know, that's a big ask for an apex gorilla, but if it's anything else it's not "Fighters vs gorillas", it's "Fighters vs gorilla vs gorilla (x20)", which isn't what was asked.

So now you have a small wall of angry gorilla. Comparing any healthy gorilla to any healthy human is no contest, gorillas have incomprehensible muscle/mass ratios and are larger than us. Without weapons, the gorillas simply outgun the fighters.

Here's my guess for what'd happen. The two teams would begin their bout, before realizing how dangerous shit is and trying to group up. Small losses on fighters side, minimal (if any) losses on the gorillas side. Fighters would try to outsmart the gorillas, with whatever footwork and teamwork they can come up with, and promplty get their arms torn off when they get within reach of the gorilla, which is definitely not within reach of the fighter. That's a big thing - There is a point of time where the gorilla can attack and the fighter can't. Any teamwork will be met with the gorillas usual response to multiple threats, from what I can tell. Duck their massive heads in, charge to relative safety while nothing vulnerable is exposed, ramming and tossing whatever they can along the way, all the while backed up by their friends.

My opinion, gorillas. Remember, they're apex gorillas. It's not like they've never fought anything before.
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#96 - captainfuckitall (09/23/2015) [-]
You're also speaking as if humans cannot pick up stones or logs. While Gorillas are tough, it's not as if they're impenetrable; a few good clobs with a stone would give them a dent to their head as it would any other. They can be hurt quite easily, much like any animal.

While I will be the first to admit that there comes a point where intelligence is moot in a fight, part of being intelligent is KNOWING that just charging in does nothing. The best bet would either be by ambush, sneak-attacks, surrounding, or isolating; all of which can be done because Gorillas aren't the smartest of animals.

Who the winner is at the end of the day heavily depends upon two things:

The environment (as humans would be relatively unable to beat or suffocate a gorilla to death. They WOULD, however, be able to bash it to death. Since Gorillas are native to the Jungle, I would assume the fight takes place there). And if the apes are together, in which case, I would say no, they're not. Gorillas are not smart, and being the 'alpha' they like to be alone and being near anyone else they perceive as a threat to their hierarchy, they would attack, resulting in infighting and severe losses.
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#98 - ninjaroo (09/23/2015) [-]
I'm not convinced a human arm with a stone would overcome a gorilla skull. Their skulls are built to take a direct hit from another gorillas fist, plus they have all that muscle to hold such a heavy skull up. They can be hurt, certainly, but we're talking about the biggest and strongest examples of apes in a situation where the majority of human advantage is mitigated in some way.

Further, gorillas aren't ignorant of the tactics you're suggesting. They are nowhere near as smart as us, true, but they have to deal with a variety of other predators, I would imagine including pack hunters. They're fighters, strong enough to defend an entire pack against all outside threats, they know the game.

And I've already addressed that. The question isn't "What would happen if you put all these things in a room", it's "UFC fighters vs 20 apex gorillas." Regardless of the fact that it wouldn't naturally happen, the question is specifically a Team A vs Team B scenario, ignoring that is ignoring the question. That's why I'm assuming they're somehow aware of the team thing. I'm not granting them a further intelligence beyond that to comprehend team tactics or anything.
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#101 - captainfuckitall (09/23/2015) [-]
No they're not. It's made to house the brain. That's like saying a human skull is made to take a direct hit when it's not either, otherwise it would be far thicker than it is.

Heads, or the top of them rather, don't really have muscle; but nerves.

And also the best trained fighting humans. I'm not saying they could easily win or ninja kick the damn Gorilla, 9 out of 10 of the fighters would be slaughtered, but in that time, I'm sure one could at least mortally wound the gorilla through a weak spot (such as ears, jabbing a sharp stick into it, eyes, same deal, yadda yadda).

Except they're not that either. Most Gorillas avoid conflict unless they feel threatened, and even then the entire tribe is mobile for that very reason. I'm not saying a Gorilla doesn't fight, I'm just saying it doesn't fight every single day.

Then they wouldn't attack eachother, but that doesn't necessarily mean teaming up. No non-ant animal beats humans in Teamwork.
#13 - I mean, compared to other heroes. No average fighter …  [+] (26 replies) 09/22/2015 on yey +3
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#51 - serotonin (09/22/2015) [-]
If you are looking at street level guys he is near the top. Gambit in one of older comics states that he (DP) is one of most dangerous super humans that he knows of.
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#32 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
deadpool has defeaten taskmaster.

cap has a few victories.

spiderman is also another one, but he usually wins thanks to his combat skills added to his super strength,speed,reaction time, precognition and such...



also deadpool is: superhumanly strong,fast and durable(just under caps level) he can also teleport,is completely immune to being mindcontrolled,has heightened awarness,senses and spacial awarness..
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#70 - angelusprimus (09/22/2015) [-]
Immunity to mind control depends on how much of his brain is tumor at the time.
His body is constantly shifting.
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#71 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
no it doesnt.

his immunity to mind control comes from his brain constantly fixing itself. "regenerating" if you will.
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#73 - angelusprimus (09/22/2015) [-]
yeah but if there is not much tumor already in it, its not regenerating.
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#75 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
its constantly regenerating not only because of the cancer but because of deadpools innate insanity and heightened aware on cosmic scale.

trying to "fix the wrongs" if you will.
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#57 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
Not exactly immune to mind control...

I remember in Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe, in the beginning, someone attempted to brain-wash him, but instead it made another voice which basically killed the other two in his head and made him go on a murderous rampage to destroy the universe(s) and Creation itself.

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#58 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
dedpool kills marvel universe is an elsewhere comic.

or non canon as they like to call it.
#79 - anon (09/22/2015) [-]
Mhm, this comic is completely overlooked, as it was just a fantasy piece. Anyone hardcore into it already knows deadpool is cool edgy and all, but can't actually kill other heroes. One of his sychosis's keeps him from doing so, even if he tried. That, and death would never let him hear the end of it, literally.
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#80 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
plus he really doesnt have the fire power or skills to bring down peeps like thor, ff,or spiderman..let alone hulk or well...a lot of the folks...


still. suspension of disbelief and all..
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#59 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
True....However, Deadpools 616 universe does get involved....
Eh I guess.
It's kind of like Marvel's INJUSTICE
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#60 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
it is indeed like injustice...except its actually a quality comic parring few idiot ball moments..
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#61 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
Mhmm
you have no idea how fucking frustrated I am with Injustice

like ffs, Superman would never fucking kill Mogo, confused about what to do or not.
YOU LITERALLY JUST KILLED THE INTERGALACTIC CENTER FOR PROTECTION
And he says he's just trying to protect people.
Fucking hell, what a backwards-ass logic, can't even keep up with his reasoning.
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#63 - comicexplain (09/22/2015) [-]
And Superman is insane, by that point! Just doesn't know it yet.
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#66 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
He's insane yet he regrets killing Connor, and Green Arrow?
If anything I'd think he was trying to justify his actions by constantly trying to frame his actions around his "I'm the good guy, so my decisions are right." card.

It feels like throughout the entire comic, he's being convince and corrupted by the people he should obviously see as not trust-worthy, however, he's so blind with hurt and loss that he's desperate to make a world where nobody has to be hurt any longer..he'd do anything..
The same mind-set can be applied to his followers. Shazam is a good example, since he was heavily influenced by Superman's presence as a child. He's thinking the same thing "If superman is good, everything he's doing must be right" (and I think he actually says it at one point in the comics).

It's really just this Bataan Death March of misunderstanding and revenge mixed in with a lot of tensions being broken and/or used to advance or subjugate.

Interesting...but the comic is inconsistent to some degree with it.
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#62 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
everybody is like that in it...comicexplain defended it by saying its still a decent comic book if you recognize them as not the canon versions and blaa blaa blaa..but the art work is still wonky,there is still a lot of awkward dialogue and the character motivations are just...poorly made for most parts.not to mention the idiot ball moments they have
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#64 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
Tis true, if anything I do love Batman's commitment. Everyone else is just straight up idiotic and or taking action only by their pride or honor.
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#65 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
batman is the one character i do have grief with..he is so...hypocritical....


he chastises superman for accidentally torturing him..then he lets the sidekick of one of the most dangerous lunatics torture his good friend.

he doesnt like supermans treatment of humans. yet he has on several occasions used his own allies in this comic as disposable tools.

he complains about superman costing lives. but until batman started messing with him supes actually saved more than he killed...heck actually just about all the deaths on supermans belt were caused by batman antagonizing him...



weirdly tho. the one character i DO love more than their mainstream(well current mainstream) incarnation in this comic was john constantine...he just acted so much more like the original one rather than the annoying thing we have in n52...
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#67 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
Constantine was just fucking perfect. And he takes his leave in the exact way he should have. I think the writers just didn't know what to do when Injustice took the magic arc, and just handed the wheel to Constantine's writers for a while.

Best part of the comic by far, it really felt like detective-trained-heroes versus super-powered-gods
That's what Injustice should've been throughout.
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#68 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
constantines arc felt like it was written by alan himself...well not as good dialogue..but by god it was overall just so well done!


and he did it the way he is supposed to do things. he used barely any magic, he had other people do all the hard stuff for him. and he outplayed EVERYBODY. THAT is the way constantine should be.,in current n52 comics he just shoots magic and rarely ever does any actual witty stuff. the new hellblazer series looks promising but even that looks like its going to be just flanderization of the character rather than a series continuity of the series...


also. outside of superman: wonder woman and green lantern were the characters that were handled the worst... specially wonder woman.
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#69 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
WW pisses me off with her fucking house-wifeness
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#72 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
ww is supposed to be the being that "most encompassed love" out of everybody on earth,.


yet here the writers...they just seem to hate her...even more than superman and rest of the super powered heroes...
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#74 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
ya gotta admit though.

that judgement by combat scene was fucking satisfying to see
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#76 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
hmm...which scene is that? i cant recall...
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#77 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
it starts at the end of the previous comic, but this one im linking is the actual fight and reaction
viewcomic.com/injustice-gods-among-us-year-4-four-008-2015/
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#78 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
more superman is just a brute bs....other than that...it was...well it didnt have anything too bad going for it
#8 - The game itself is fine. It's really not that good, m…  [+] (7 replies) 09/22/2015 on When someone says darksouls... -3
#9 - anythingoes (09/22/2015) [-]
Yeah. Even the game design is made only to frustrate.

>Careful with those traps bro. Oh, whoops, you just got hit by that hidden trap that you have no way of knowing it's there unless you spring it. You are now dead. Have fun going through that gauntlet of enemies you just got through. Exciting combat? Oh no, just roll and stab.

>Look past that doorway, it's a thin path that leads to a death drop. Just go ahead and- oh, looks like there was an enemy behind the doorway, and he just killed you. Are you having fun yet?

>Ok, this one is easy, the roof tops are kinda narrow, yes, and there are a few archers using spears as arrows, of course, all you have to do is use invincibility frames to get through their arrows, time it according to them, check you stamina bar, and don't veer to much to the side. And remember, if you die, you just have to spend 10 more minutes getting back in here. Because making you do the same challenges again and again so that you can try the one you failed before is fun, right?

Challenging, threatening, not holding your hand, a community that doesn't shit all over itself on min maxing or metagaming bullshit... If onle there ever was a game like that... Oh right, monster hunter

Dying in dark souls "Wait. What? Where the fuck? What the hell just happened? The fuck was that?"..... 2º try "OH! There is! Oh. Ok. I see. There's XXX there. Right..."

Dying in monster hunter "OH MOTHERFU-- Shit. Ok, goddamnit, I knew it was going to do that. Ok, paying more attention, let's go again! Just don't let it happen again, let's not make this whole affair a waste of time."
#21 - ohhitheree (09/22/2015) [-]
Doesn't matter if you thumb me down, I'm still right.
#17 - ohhitheree (09/22/2015) [-]
Ok, no. Those traps that you can't possible see coming? They are visible. If you actually bother looking, then you can see the traps even before they are set off. Every. Single. Trap. Hell, I didn't even set off most of the traps cause I fucking saw them. It's not the game's fault that you don't pay attention.
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#12 - theimmortalbeaver (09/22/2015) [-]
I can't speak to Monster Hunter (never played it), but I agree on Dark Souls. I only got so far in because I didn't feel like I was learning how to play, I was just memorizing the maps. Death would regularly come no matter how prepared I was, and then it was a repetitive slog to get past everything I had already cleared to try to get to the difficult spot and try over and over. I could do it and I made progress. I just didn't find it even remotely fun.

If I was a cynical man, I'd chalk up the series' popularity to people who are mostly just fed up with how easy most big-budget games are these days. It's not that Dark Souls' difficulty curve is good, it's just that the game doesn't follow the design philosophy that everyone should be able to finish it (which series like Assassin's Creed and even Bioshock have followed to great detriment). It seems to have primarily gained popularity from that total lack of compromise, which ironically, spawned plenty of issues on its own.
#13 - anythingoes (09/22/2015) [-]
Summing up MH

>14 different weapon types, each one feels so different from the next that each may as well as be a different game. 11 are melee, 3 are ranged. Melee weapons have a sharpness feature, having a low sharpness may make it hard to piece a monster's hide, or a certain part of it's body.

>No levels. Game has an armor skill system, combining pieces in a certain way awards you a boom bonus attack, more invencibility frames on evade, faster item consumption, weapon loses sharpness slower, etc

> Low Rank, High Rank, G Rank. Basic monsters are shared, more advanced ones are higher rank only.

> To fight monsters you're thrown in an area. There are solo hunts and online hunts, more acessible on 4 ultimate of the series

> You can take some items, potions, traps, whetstones, pickaxes to collect minerals, food to keep your stamina up. Each item takes a different time to use So you can't just spawn healing potions like in bloodborne, you have to look for a chance

>Areas are divided into zone, think of each zone as a small arena

> If a monster downs you three times, you're out, you lose the money you spent to take the quest and any items you've used. This number is shared on online hunts.

> Killed a monster? Carve it's pieces out, use those to make better armor and weapons. Hunt bigger creatures. Repeat ad infinitum.

On the most current game on the west, there are about 43 big monsters, and that's not taking into account subspecies that bumbs the number to 75 , which are pretty much pallete swaps with different behavior/techniques/elements/skills. Each with it's own armor and weapon. But wait! There's more! The game also has a feature that allows you to trade materials for the ones of monsters that are not in game, making a truly huge amount of different armors and weapons.

That's monster hunter, in a very crass cut and dry way.
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#19 - theimmortalbeaver (09/22/2015) [-]
That sounds pretty interesting. If it's ever on PC, I'll check it out.
#20 - anythingoes (09/22/2015) [-]
Don't... Count on it.

Though it's possible to use a psp emulator to play monster hunter freedom (2º generation). It's not as polished as those later in the series Some hitboxes are absolutely nightmarish, if you give it a go, plesioth will be a name you'll dread , and there are a fewer mechanics. But the game already had a cult following at the time, so it has it's merits. Heck, a new guy joined the series and been streaming that for a while and he seems to be loving it. So, I guess if you can only play on a pc and want to give it a try, that's the way to go. The game is not easy, the guy that does that stream not only acknoledged how helpful the chat was, pointing out some mechanics and general tips, but also how he had to do some side research. The game has that kind of meta gaming, you're a hunter, there are diverse monsters that are your quarry, there's no shame in researching them, though it is funny seeing someone shit themselves fighting them without knowing what they are doing for the first time.

There's also Toukiden on steam, that's obviously inspired on the series, but at the same time, seems to be very different.
#4 - Because Wade doesn't have any powers beyond practical immortal…  [+] (39 replies) 09/22/2015 on yey -1
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#55 - TheMather (09/22/2015) [-]
Actually, Deadpool is what is ranked as a "master of several forms of combat", his fighting abilities are on par with the likes of Captain America and the Punisher. He just chooses to fight like an idiot at times, probably because it makes his opponents underestimate him.
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#54 - metallus (09/22/2015) [-]
Bullshit, he's really strong and skilled. For example, when he lost his healing factor he still managed to do pretty rad things and beat asses up.
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#23 - thechosentroll (09/22/2015) [-]
And yet they have Hawkeye on the team.
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#21 - MrMustacho (09/22/2015) [-]
he did famously beat Taskmaster and hes got the better of plenty of powerful characters

but in his own words "your tendency to come back from the brink of death has nothing to do with your healing factor, your mutant power isn't regeneration, it's popularity"
deadpool is as skilled or powerful as his writer needs him to be
#36 - thechosentroll (09/22/2015) [-]
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#35 - thechosentroll (09/22/2015) [-]
To be fair, he didn't beat any of them with his strength or speed. He just outsmarted them or killed their desire to kill him. Like with Taskmaster, who's his buddy now. Also, I'm pretty sure that line was said BY Deadpool to Wolverine.
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#37 - MrMustacho (09/22/2015) [-]
smarts is a power
and i'd rate his skills/strength slightly below wolverine since wolverine usually beats him but it's usually not a easy win

and taskmaster was defeated, he didn't give up after beating deadpool to often, he got his ass kicked

also "in his own words"
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#38 - thechosentroll (09/22/2015) [-]
Fair point.
#12 - anon (09/22/2015) [-]
uhhhhh what? He is one of the best fighters/mercs around. What holds him back is not his skill, but his mental instability. No one hires him because there is no fucking clue what he is going to do, not that his skills are subpar. I remember reading a comic that goes thorugh this; he thrashes Taskmasker while having his arms tied together, then tells Taskmaser thanks for going easy on him. Taskmasker replies that he wasn't going easy, and he really is that fucking good; just unreliable as hell.
#47 - skebaba (09/22/2015) [-]
He only defeated Taskmaster, because even Deadpool himself doesn't know what he is gonna do at any given moment, thus making it impossible for the Taskmaster to copy him.
#39 - anon (09/22/2015) [-]
he has merc autismo
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#13 - captainfuckitall (09/22/2015) [-]
I mean, compared to other heroes.

No average fighter has ever beaten Taskmaster to my knowledge, simply because of his advanced skill set and abilities. He has a full 7 on the fighting-skill table. Even Hawkeye, member of the avengers, best marksman alive, and master in nearly every other style only has a 6.
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#51 - serotonin (09/22/2015) [-]
If you are looking at street level guys he is near the top. Gambit in one of older comics states that he (DP) is one of most dangerous super humans that he knows of.
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#32 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
deadpool has defeaten taskmaster.

cap has a few victories.

spiderman is also another one, but he usually wins thanks to his combat skills added to his super strength,speed,reaction time, precognition and such...



also deadpool is: superhumanly strong,fast and durable(just under caps level) he can also teleport,is completely immune to being mindcontrolled,has heightened awarness,senses and spacial awarness..
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#70 - angelusprimus (09/22/2015) [-]
Immunity to mind control depends on how much of his brain is tumor at the time.
His body is constantly shifting.
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#71 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
no it doesnt.

his immunity to mind control comes from his brain constantly fixing itself. "regenerating" if you will.
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#73 - angelusprimus (09/22/2015) [-]
yeah but if there is not much tumor already in it, its not regenerating.
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#75 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
its constantly regenerating not only because of the cancer but because of deadpools innate insanity and heightened aware on cosmic scale.

trying to "fix the wrongs" if you will.
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#57 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
Not exactly immune to mind control...

I remember in Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe, in the beginning, someone attempted to brain-wash him, but instead it made another voice which basically killed the other two in his head and made him go on a murderous rampage to destroy the universe(s) and Creation itself.

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#58 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
dedpool kills marvel universe is an elsewhere comic.

or non canon as they like to call it.
#79 - anon (09/22/2015) [-]
Mhm, this comic is completely overlooked, as it was just a fantasy piece. Anyone hardcore into it already knows deadpool is cool edgy and all, but can't actually kill other heroes. One of his sychosis's keeps him from doing so, even if he tried. That, and death would never let him hear the end of it, literally.
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#80 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
plus he really doesnt have the fire power or skills to bring down peeps like thor, ff,or spiderman..let alone hulk or well...a lot of the folks...


still. suspension of disbelief and all..
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#59 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
True....However, Deadpools 616 universe does get involved....
Eh I guess.
It's kind of like Marvel's INJUSTICE
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#60 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
it is indeed like injustice...except its actually a quality comic parring few idiot ball moments..
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#61 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
Mhmm
you have no idea how fucking frustrated I am with Injustice

like ffs, Superman would never fucking kill Mogo, confused about what to do or not.
YOU LITERALLY JUST KILLED THE INTERGALACTIC CENTER FOR PROTECTION
And he says he's just trying to protect people.
Fucking hell, what a backwards-ass logic, can't even keep up with his reasoning.
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#63 - comicexplain (09/22/2015) [-]
And Superman is insane, by that point! Just doesn't know it yet.
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#66 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
He's insane yet he regrets killing Connor, and Green Arrow?
If anything I'd think he was trying to justify his actions by constantly trying to frame his actions around his "I'm the good guy, so my decisions are right." card.

It feels like throughout the entire comic, he's being convince and corrupted by the people he should obviously see as not trust-worthy, however, he's so blind with hurt and loss that he's desperate to make a world where nobody has to be hurt any longer..he'd do anything..
The same mind-set can be applied to his followers. Shazam is a good example, since he was heavily influenced by Superman's presence as a child. He's thinking the same thing "If superman is good, everything he's doing must be right" (and I think he actually says it at one point in the comics).

It's really just this Bataan Death March of misunderstanding and revenge mixed in with a lot of tensions being broken and/or used to advance or subjugate.

Interesting...but the comic is inconsistent to some degree with it.
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#62 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
everybody is like that in it...comicexplain defended it by saying its still a decent comic book if you recognize them as not the canon versions and blaa blaa blaa..but the art work is still wonky,there is still a lot of awkward dialogue and the character motivations are just...poorly made for most parts.not to mention the idiot ball moments they have
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#64 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
Tis true, if anything I do love Batman's commitment. Everyone else is just straight up idiotic and or taking action only by their pride or honor.
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#65 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
batman is the one character i do have grief with..he is so...hypocritical....


he chastises superman for accidentally torturing him..then he lets the sidekick of one of the most dangerous lunatics torture his good friend.

he doesnt like supermans treatment of humans. yet he has on several occasions used his own allies in this comic as disposable tools.

he complains about superman costing lives. but until batman started messing with him supes actually saved more than he killed...heck actually just about all the deaths on supermans belt were caused by batman antagonizing him...



weirdly tho. the one character i DO love more than their mainstream(well current mainstream) incarnation in this comic was john constantine...he just acted so much more like the original one rather than the annoying thing we have in n52...
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#67 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
Constantine was just fucking perfect. And he takes his leave in the exact way he should have. I think the writers just didn't know what to do when Injustice took the magic arc, and just handed the wheel to Constantine's writers for a while.

Best part of the comic by far, it really felt like detective-trained-heroes versus super-powered-gods
That's what Injustice should've been throughout.
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#68 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
constantines arc felt like it was written by alan himself...well not as good dialogue..but by god it was overall just so well done!


and he did it the way he is supposed to do things. he used barely any magic, he had other people do all the hard stuff for him. and he outplayed EVERYBODY. THAT is the way constantine should be.,in current n52 comics he just shoots magic and rarely ever does any actual witty stuff. the new hellblazer series looks promising but even that looks like its going to be just flanderization of the character rather than a series continuity of the series...


also. outside of superman: wonder woman and green lantern were the characters that were handled the worst... specially wonder woman.
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#69 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
WW pisses me off with her fucking house-wifeness
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#72 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
ww is supposed to be the being that "most encompassed love" out of everybody on earth,.


yet here the writers...they just seem to hate her...even more than superman and rest of the super powered heroes...
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#74 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
ya gotta admit though.

that judgement by combat scene was fucking satisfying to see
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#76 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
hmm...which scene is that? i cant recall...
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#77 - navestotwo (09/22/2015) [-]
it starts at the end of the previous comic, but this one im linking is the actual fight and reaction
viewcomic.com/injustice-gods-among-us-year-4-four-008-2015/
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#78 - angelious (09/22/2015) [-]
more superman is just a brute bs....other than that...it was...well it didnt have anything too bad going for it
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#5 - thesupervillian (09/22/2015) [-]
Eh, it really depends on what comics you're reading. He can be pretty cool at times and his comics can be more then just one giant joke. Plus, he never technically gives up on an opportunity to become an avenger or apart of the X-Men unless he's mad or some shit and makes them beg.