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#174 - Well since you stuck my comment on the content and it is the f…  [+] (1 new reply) 03/15/2014 on Abortion -6
#261 - anonymous (03/15/2014) [-]
That is the dumbest excuse I have ever heard with the logic on par with congress and a CEO
#169 - Is it? Enlighten me, please, how are they different? What woul…  [+] (2 new replies) 03/15/2014 on Abortion -5
User avatar #177 - harshy (03/15/2014) [-]
Would you honestly force a baby to live that would suffer the short time it would be alive?
User avatar #175 - harshy (03/15/2014) [-]
birth defects can easily be caused by the parents, so for them keeping the child is very hypocritical
#165 - You must not be a parent, What he is trying to say is tha…  [+] (1 new reply) 03/15/2014 on Abortion 0
User avatar #167 - breymac (03/15/2014) [-]
I understand how hard it must be, but, as of now, not being a parent or ever going to be one that has to deal with that, it seems logical, but sad that parents will take that gamble.
#139 - I'm sorry I am naive and do not get it. The mercy is in the pa…  [+] (8 new replies) 03/15/2014 on Abortion -36
User avatar #311 - hellsjester (03/15/2014) [-]
i take it you have never suffered agonizing or debilitating problems have you? until you do sorry you have no room to talk. if you want to imagine what it is like to be that baby in the example try this. roll your lips back and somehow keep them there. put something on your tongue so that it fills up you mouth so you have little to no space in your mouth. blindfold yourself to pitch black. make your nasal cavity blocked. get a tracheotomy so you can breath. lower your immune system. make yourself practically def. final step give yourself severe chemical and/or regular burns all over your body to simulate pain. then if you feel ever second your alive and tell me your being merciful then.
User avatar #245 - chrispoot (03/15/2014) [-]
Sir! Move your perspective from the parent's viewpoint to the children's viewpoint. If you were born blind, deaf and mute, with severe muscle function problems, would you really enjoy that life, not understanding shit of what's going on around you? No, I don't think anyone would like that, at all, keeping the life of such a poor child is as TwiztidNinja said, Inhumane and cruel.
User avatar #392 - finni (03/15/2014) [-]
You actually make a valid point there. I don't know if it's ethical to abort in all handicapped cases, but this is surly a time where it's okay.
User avatar #189 - TwiztidNinja (03/15/2014) [-]
A loving and caring parent would know that ending their pain or preventing it in the first place is the right thing to do in a situation where all you are doing by "Helping" is prolonging their suffering.
If your cat was run over with ribs sticking out the side of its chest and the vet said "There is a 5% chance he will live" would you do the right thing end help the poor cunt sleep?
It is sounding to me like you would selfishly try to save the cat because of your own bullshit issues with letting go, or is it only people, Children and infants you want to hear crying in agony?
User avatar #166 - harshy (03/15/2014) [-]
a disease is totally different than a child born with the conditions that OP described
User avatar #169 - breadnsteak (03/15/2014) [-]
Is it? Enlighten me, please, how are they different? What would cause the conditions if not a disease?
User avatar #177 - harshy (03/15/2014) [-]
Would you honestly force a baby to live that would suffer the short time it would be alive?
User avatar #175 - harshy (03/15/2014) [-]
birth defects can easily be caused by the parents, so for them keeping the child is very hypocritical
#122 - So does OP want to kill all people with physical and mental im…  [+] (60 new replies) 03/15/2014 on Abortion -253
#407 - anonymous (03/15/2014) [-]
You're an idiot.

They aren't talking about handicapped people. They're talking about SEVERELY handicapped people will little to no chance of a normal, functional life.

Think of all those kids who are 17 but with a mentality of a 4 year old, constantly peeling skin, feeding tubes and stunted mental capabilities.

Do you think you're doing them ANY favors by keeping them alive?
#396 - kalimah (03/15/2014) [-]
>Comparing autism with anencephaly
#394 - anonymous (03/15/2014) [-]
I've said it tons'o'times before. If you can't heal it, kill it, analyze it, get result, try to heal the same case again. No lives wasted, humane mercy in the name of science and humanity. Some of the people here got a point, a life full of suffering isn't life at all, not for a baby or for a grown person for that matter. Showing mercy and love in death is what makes us natural.
User avatar #376 - noodlelover (03/15/2014) [-]
I think you are right in a way but I think OP meant people with so many defects that it's past the point of no return.... ya just gotta put that one out man
#375 - singsing (03/15/2014) [-]
This is quite literally the most idiotic argument I have ever read..

Although, there are two sides to everything. I know several kids with diseases such as down syndrome who are totally ignorant to a point of absolute happiness in life, but for the most part kids with these diseases actually do have some clue that they are different, and more often than not, it really hurts them. Also, think about the mother..do you really think that the mother is aborting that baby for selfish reasons? That baby came from the mother and father, and, more often than not, those parents would not allow that child to conduct that existence because they would not only feel so guilty for bringing him/her into the world, but they feel that his/her life would not be worth living.

tl;dr Parents who go through this shit do not make this decision lightly or selfishly(most of the time)
#369 - anonymous (03/15/2014) [-]
Wonderfully brilliant strawman argument there my friend, but do us all a favor and shut the fuck up with your stupidity. It kills.
#364 - lookatmyhouseofwax (03/15/2014) [-]
User avatar #358 - sociocat (03/15/2014) [-]
i think you misunderstood at a very high level because OP wants people with a ton of birth defects and will never be able to walk or communicate to just die
#339 - superduperpuper (03/15/2014) [-]
I think you confuse common physical/mental illnesses/retardation with some pretty unimaginable hardcore shit. A baby like mentioned by OP will never be able to do anything alone (and no I don't mean it cant go inline skating alone, I mean it cant piss/shit/breathe alone). If you come to "life" and you don't know who or what you are, you can't see, you can't breathe and the only thing you feel is pain... well then it's probably mor humane to take a normal baby and cut off a few off its limbs and burn its eyes out (to say it drastical... don't cut off babylimbs...)



User avatar #334 - matakeshi (03/15/2014) [-]
yes, lets torture the baby and keep it alive. Life will be pure torture for the baby you fucking sow
#332 - iamstoopid (03/15/2014) [-]
its not about people deserving to live, its because it would be a financial burden on the parents to keep them alive and running well and hard on the child having to go through hardship like pain from what they have and being harshly judged from others, having no friends
#330 - Denmarrk (03/15/2014) [-]
I think you forgot to be aborted.
#342 - gigamuffin (03/15/2014) [-]
#328 - robertelee (03/15/2014) [-]
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what he is saying is if i can be determined that the child will have absolutely no quality of life than you should not be selfish enough to torture "GIFT" of life
#327 - anonymous (03/15/2014) [-]
You are one of those who should have been aborted.
#323 - mohawkwarrior (03/15/2014) [-]
You are kind of an idiot,and you apparently didn't read the entire post.
#316 - givememoarpony (03/15/2014) [-]
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User avatar #360 - dehnoobshow (03/15/2014) [-]
Don't care. FULL FUCKING FURY
User avatar #314 - stilch (03/15/2014) [-]
You know what, I'm not OP and I have had enough of your kind to make a point. No one is trying to play god. I won't run around killing people with mental deformities such as assburgers or Down syndrome, they can still, as OP put it, *live*. And I agree one hundred percent with op. If you are so fucked up in the head to think that you have the right to criticize someone who is trying to defend this thing, (is something that can't communicate, comprehend anything, walk, and eat really human?) from a horrible life then you don't deserve to have an opinion. You know what I think? I think you can go fuck yourself. If you can't accept that this "human" should just die because not only nature demands, but also out of common courtesy to put it out of its misery, then maybe you are more fucked up than anyone on this site. Just my two cents.
User avatar #310 - hellsjester (03/15/2014) [-]
I am sorry but, if it is that severe that cannot function without assistance from others or the ability to take care of itself it should be culled. Nature does this in all species, but humans. while other species are eliminating severe genetic disorders we a literally spreading it. do you see the problem with this logic?
User avatar #292 - imagnetsux (03/15/2014) [-]
the light is blinding. it's so cold. you hear voices, but you do not understand. breathing is hard. so hard. it has been ever since you were thrown into this cold world. the person in front of you in contorting her face and making noises and you do not understand. you are scared. always scared. scared of knowing, scared of not knowing, scared of the way the world changes in your distorted vision when you turn your head, scared of the horrible things you see and hear every day that no one else is afraid of. scared of the beeping and buzzing of the machine attached to your stomach. you have always been a prisoner of this machine, controlling your every heartbeat. all you want is to climb that thing over there, but the machine will never allow it. and neither will your arms and legs. you try and try to move them properly but they always go off to the side, knocking things over. your mouth opens and food goes in but most of it falls out of your mouth and you almost choke on the rest of it. your mouth pesters you for food and water but won't accept it without being forced. nothing is yours, even as it sits at your feet or in your own mouth. but it wouldn't matter if you could grasp something because you could not understand it. you do not understand anything. why you were taken from the warm place, why you are attached to the machine, why it hurts so much, who this terrifying person with her arms around you is, why the noise never stops, or why they won't let you leave. why won't they let you sleep?
#409 - anonymous (03/15/2014) [-]
THIS is what the argument is trying to say. Thank you.

If they could talk, if they could understand, they wouldn't want to exist like that.

To everyone else: Do YOU want to exist as a drooling baby with a lack of motor and mental skills and be fed with a tube for your entire life?

SAY YES. I DARE YOU.
#397 - moggycore (03/15/2014) [-]
Dude, the feel that's inside me now hurts so much
User avatar #284 - sciencexplain (03/15/2014) [-]
You are the dumbest fuck I have ever had the misfortune of witnessing in my pathetic lifetime. I pray to God you don't reproduce, or if you do, it will teach you how fucking retarded you are being.
#270 - earlploddington (03/15/2014) [-]
"So does OP want to kill all people with physical and mental imperfections?"

no

#267 - elaxx (03/15/2014) [-]
Love overall is a quite selfish thing from a certain point of view. Although it is considered to be a nice thing, doing everything for the person you love, just seeing them happy, being with them, caring for them etc. etc., people usually do that because it makes them feel "good", happy, satisfied. Otherwise they most probably wouldn't do it. So if a said mother wanted her kid to live because of her love towards it, which is absolutely natural, she wouldn't consider how the baby itself feels, she gives it no choice on the matter whatsoever.

So yea no, It is selfish from parents' point of view.

Mind it that we are talking about the worst possible cases when the chances of the baby to have a normal life are non-existent
#266 - anonymous (03/15/2014) [-]
In extremely bad health conditions this is better for the child.
#265 - anonymous (03/15/2014) [-]
People love bait so much, they KNOW its bait, but some pretend they don't so they can argue and leave a good impression of themselves, and for well.. themselves, because none of us gives a fuck DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
User avatar #262 - europe (03/15/2014) [-]
There's a difference between a minor physical or mental imperfection
OP isn't being bloody hitler here, aiming for genetic perfection, because what's going to be born there isn't really going to affect the human gene pool anyway because odds are it won't ever get to procreate since it will probably die in a very short time, in a very painful way
#259 - canyou (03/15/2014) [-]
I thumbed you up.

It's not that I necessarily agree with you, but I do find it a bit unfair that your comment was stickied by a butthurt OP to get raped with red thumbs from every FunnyJunker ready to jump on a bandwagon. I just wanted to even you out.

Don't worry about my opinion.
#256 - ximik (03/15/2014) [-]
Except autism and severe birth defects inhibiting basic life functions are different things. Idjit.
#251 - amuzen (03/15/2014) [-]
she's not saying they will never be loved, she's saying that when someone has no chance of ever understanding what's happening around them and lives every moment of their short life feeling nothing but incredible agony they should be allowed to just die regardless of whether someone loves them or not without being forcibly attached to life.

she's also not saying they should kill the just that they shouldn't keep them alive in such an extreme scenario as she posted.
User avatar #246 - cumbersome (03/15/2014) [-]
The funny thing is, back before medicine those physically undeveloped children would have died, either because they simply weren't fit to live on their own, or because they were abandoned as a mouth to feed that couldn't carry its own weight. Besides, if the child is so severely disabled that they aren't able to consciously process or experience anything, they really aren't getting anything out of life, are they?
User avatar #239 - anonrandom (03/15/2014) [-]
A return to the Spartan way of dealing with it could be beneficial for the species.
#220 - fafafreedom (03/15/2014) [-]
you know what, if not for your use of OP like you know something. I might have sided with you, just for shits and grins, but since you decided to use OP...eh enjoy the red...didn't even finish the rant.
#219 - Deanoss (03/15/2014) [-]
except the point hes trying to make isnt something as selfish as how it will affect them, its about the hardships and painful surgeries/disabilities the child would have to face from the moment theyre born.
#217 - therealsupanova (03/15/2014) [-]
DAT FIRST SENTENCE STRAWMAN DOE!

keep it up you might start getting called piers morgan!
#216 - anonymous (03/15/2014) [-]
It's not that the parents won't love the child - of course parents love their child no matter what is wrong with him (at least most parents do). This also has nothing to do with people who lost a leg, or developed a mental illness. It has nothing to do with that. It's the fact that some babies have severe physical and/or mental problems that would leave them to have surgery and be dependent on others their entire lives. It isn't selfish to want to spare someone of a life that is painful and unfulfilling. It's selfish to put someone on this earth who will suffer their entire lives. In my eyes, the parents who choose to have babies with severe issues that they already knew about are the selfish ones - they are keeping their child with no regard as to what kind of life their child will live.
#214 - chaostian (03/15/2014) [-]
Were not talking about not being able to walk, or having a sense or two missing or some minor mental handicaps, but when you have a child who cant ever live a life with out life support, constant medical care, or the inability to function as a semi living creature. Animals who cant function correctly die off in nature, the only reason why these humans live is because we are forcing them, because our medical technology will, and can always keep them alive (most of the time). Would you want to live a life were the only thing you can do is be present? You wouldn't use a computer which didn't work, or a car that's missing structural pieces, and engine parts. Some times the human body does not form correctly... It doesn't have to be perfect but there's a difference between cruelty, and mercy killing. If its because of religion. then you saved a soul from having to endure a hardship because of your inability to accept the faults of yourself, and child. Give that soul a chance to live in a body which can be actually used...

Just remember, humans are not perfect.... but don't force one to be human in only name... Maybe int he future when all these problems can be fixed with cybernetics and such but here and now... why would you wish a life to live with out even being able to think? or move?
User avatar #208 - cazabrow (03/15/2014) [-]
If I was that baby I wouldn't want to be born.

You'd be a burden on your parents financially, time-wise and being upset over your condition constantly, you'd be miserable all the time, depressed at the fact that your going to be this way until you die at a severely reduced lifetime.

Keep in mind the only thing that keeps mothers from aborting their baby in this situation is that they think of how "he's family now I can't kill my own child" which compared to the life they KNOW he's going to have is selfish. and then go on to allow their kid to live a shit life of pain and misery
User avatar #194 - Crusader (03/15/2014) [-]
No, there is a major difference between having a child with autism, mental retardation, down's syndrome.
Those people, while leading harder lives, can still live lives independent of machines, and aren't going to be confined to a bed their entire lives.

A child with the conditions that OP has outlined will live, but not have a life. Yes, she will survive (maybe), but will she want to? Or will she grow up knowing that she cannot experience 99% of what life has to offer because of her conditions, and then eventually grow so saddened and depressed by her situation that she will cry out for death?
Request suicide, but have her requests denied?
And have her only alternative to a life not worth living be starving herself to death with an DNR, or hoping one of the staff values her free will more than their careers and make the decision to help them die?

That is the choice that a parent should be allowed to make, not because you are taking away the child's life, but because you are sparing them the agony of being forced to be alive to see the world pass them by.
#182 - anonymous (03/15/2014) [-]
uh, yeah, why not put everyone on the verge of death on life-support so they'll be biologically alive forever? humans are meant to die, especially if they cannot carry out the necessary functions of life. if nature intended them to live, they wouldnt be deformed. if you know its coming out wrong, then it should be culled. if you really love them, why would you knowingly condemn that poor soul to such a hellish, inhuman existence?
#173 - anonymous (03/15/2014) [-]
I do.
Obviously, more minor imperfections would be ignored, at least at first, but a weeding out of the "worst" of the human race will eventually lead us to a world with naturally stronger, smarter, kinder people. Although, really, it isn't necessary to kill them, I suppose merely preventing them from having children, either physically (ouch) or just by law (hey, china did it, kind of) would work as well. We could focus on known genetic defects, and with enough time eventually evolve the human race into one that has abilities far outstripping where we are today. It would have to be a global effort. People from different regions have different gene pools, different weaknesses, different strengths. By making the eradication of genetic defects our number 1 goal, we could quite possible make a future where this doesn't happen a reality. It won't be us, but maybe some hundreds of years from now that future would be the present.
User avatar #247 - cumbersome (03/15/2014) [-]
Except a lot of deformities are random mutations
#153 - anonymous (03/15/2014) [-]
but none of those are what he described.
User avatar #131 - wymlan (03/15/2014) [-]
well your point is vaild but this is the exception that is just over the edge.
User avatar #127 - normilia (03/15/2014) [-]
Before you judge me, go and read my comments.

No one else mad this a personal attack so you can bugger off.
User avatar #174 - breadnsteak (03/15/2014) [-]
Well since you stuck my comment on the content and it is the first comment everyone sees it added fuel to the fire. I attacked you because you posted it, making you OP. Therefore, since you are OP, you are the one responsible for it being on here and rubbing me the wrong way, and becoming enraged, causing me to lash and and since, as stated above, you are OP I blame you for pissing me off
#261 - anonymous (03/15/2014) [-]
That is the dumbest excuse I have ever heard with the logic on par with congress and a CEO
User avatar #124 - TwiztidNinja (03/15/2014) [-]
No you unbelievable twit, People who are going to do nothing but burden others and suffer.
Keeping a child like the one OP has mentioned alive is just cruel, Bringing a life into the world so it can experience a few short years of agony before death is inhuman.
Where is the mercy?
All i see is selfishness and greed.
Still do not get it?
< This kind of shit, that poor fucking kid should have never been allowed to leave the womb, poor cunt went on to suffer like that for 2 years before dying because of arse holes like you.
weird alien baby
#234 - skybluetroll (03/15/2014) [-]
Harlequin-type ichthyosis

This is where you took me. That video, to a google search, to fucking nightmares. thanks man.
User avatar #139 - breadnsteak (03/15/2014) [-]
I'm sorry I am naive and do not get it. The mercy is in the parents for giving it a chance, it is on the family for taking a gamble and having the child and putting their faith in science and medicine to help their child live. The mercy is seen in the people who accept the sick and dying and comfort them even though they have a slim chance of living, but at least had given them the chance. I do not understand how one is selfish and greedy by putting all their care into their child's life and health, I do not see and understand how it is greedy to have to sacrifice your social life so something that you created can feel a loving and caring parent. A parent that has gone all in by putting their child before themselves and giving them the chance to live.
Have you personally knew a parent that had a child with an illness? They would say it gets stressful and becomes a hassle at times but I had never heard a parent say they suffered or their child was a burden. Maybe there are some who would say that but for the parents who gave their child the chance and fought against the odds, even though losing them, they were happier with themselves. I suggest to volunteering at funeral homes and/or churches (if you have the chance to) where you have the opportunity to talk with parents who lost their children via disease. It will open your eyes to a new perspective of life and how much people will give for others.
User avatar #311 - hellsjester (03/15/2014) [-]
i take it you have never suffered agonizing or debilitating problems have you? until you do sorry you have no room to talk. if you want to imagine what it is like to be that baby in the example try this. roll your lips back and somehow keep them there. put something on your tongue so that it fills up you mouth so you have little to no space in your mouth. blindfold yourself to pitch black. make your nasal cavity blocked. get a tracheotomy so you can breath. lower your immune system. make yourself practically def. final step give yourself severe chemical and/or regular burns all over your body to simulate pain. then if you feel ever second your alive and tell me your being merciful then.
User avatar #245 - chrispoot (03/15/2014) [-]
Sir! Move your perspective from the parent's viewpoint to the children's viewpoint. If you were born blind, deaf and mute, with severe muscle function problems, would you really enjoy that life, not understanding shit of what's going on around you? No, I don't think anyone would like that, at all, keeping the life of such a poor child is as TwiztidNinja said, Inhumane and cruel.
User avatar #392 - finni (03/15/2014) [-]
You actually make a valid point there. I don't know if it's ethical to abort in all handicapped cases, but this is surly a time where it's okay.
User avatar #189 - TwiztidNinja (03/15/2014) [-]
A loving and caring parent would know that ending their pain or preventing it in the first place is the right thing to do in a situation where all you are doing by "Helping" is prolonging their suffering.
If your cat was run over with ribs sticking out the side of its chest and the vet said "There is a 5% chance he will live" would you do the right thing end help the poor cunt sleep?
It is sounding to me like you would selfishly try to save the cat because of your own bullshit issues with letting go, or is it only people, Children and infants you want to hear crying in agony?
User avatar #166 - harshy (03/15/2014) [-]
a disease is totally different than a child born with the conditions that OP described
User avatar #169 - breadnsteak (03/15/2014) [-]
Is it? Enlighten me, please, how are they different? What would cause the conditions if not a disease?
User avatar #177 - harshy (03/15/2014) [-]
Would you honestly force a baby to live that would suffer the short time it would be alive?
User avatar #175 - harshy (03/15/2014) [-]
birth defects can easily be caused by the parents, so for them keeping the child is very hypocritical
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