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#8 - Well, since he was totally ridden with the effects of inbreedi…  [+] (3 new replies) 10/21/2014 on How to use tinder +3
#14 - Womens Study Major (10/22/2014) [-]
lol wtf. Of all the diseases and things to die of in the ancient world, and with all the pampering he would get, how did a pharaoh break his femur?
#35 - Womens Study Major (10/22/2014) [-]
We don''t really know for sure. One answer is possible assassination, er'ebody was killing er'ebody back then to try and get their shot at being pharoah. Another answer is shit happens.
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#104 - Easy: 1. Yes they do, but are so inconsistent, in-congruen…  [+] (1 new reply) 10/20/2014 on Redneck Retriever 0
User avatar #113 - lolzordz (10/20/2014) [-]
flying space geneticists lol. youre acting like there could be no such thing as technologically advanced aliens.. look at us, were nearly there and it only took us like 20,000 years after coming down from them trees.



#99 - That's super neat; I wish him all the best, especially in a no…  [+] (1 new reply) 10/20/2014 on Redneck Retriever 0
User avatar #102 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
hes actually doing just fine but thank you. for a man with 20% bone marrow hes happy and dedicated to his studies. hes at school at the moment or i would be able to answer questions with more accuracy.
i also wish you the best. genetics are so vast and different its obviously not an easy study.
#97 - Oh, you're so cool. Read the rest of what I said; my issue is …  [+] (1 new reply) 10/20/2014 on Redneck Retriever -1
#98 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
I can't hear you over how wrong you are.
#83 - Presently I'm in Microbiology, but my courses are fairly divid…  [+] (5 new replies) 10/20/2014 on Redneck Retriever -1
#89 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #106 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
Canidae
Animal
The Canidae are the biological family of carnivorans that includes domestic dogs, wolves, foxes, jackals, coyotes, and many other lesser known extant and extinct dog-like mammals. A member of this family is called a canid. Wikipedia
but that doesnt make a fox a dog. foxes are vulpes dogs are canis.
User avatar #86 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
lol honestly i dont. i mean hes told me but the names are so long i get mixed up. i remember him mentioning microbiology. i think he wants to research auto immune deficiencies since he has a-plastic anemia so he wants to be able to help people in the future
User avatar #99 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
That's super neat; I wish him all the best, especially in a noble endeavour such as combating auto-immunity. She's a fickle bitch, I'll give her that.
User avatar #102 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
hes actually doing just fine but thank you. for a man with 20% bone marrow hes happy and dedicated to his studies. hes at school at the moment or i would be able to answer questions with more accuracy.
i also wish you the best. genetics are so vast and different its obviously not an easy study.
#78 - No, it can't be logical because it doesn't explain the gradual…  [+] (4 new replies) 10/20/2014 on Redneck Retriever +1
#93 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #84 - lolzordz (10/20/2014) [-]
many religions speak of higher beings. its the main reason i even consider aliens.

The newly modified ape wouldnt suddenly know how to make a car engine but they certainly had the capacity to all of a sudden. the learning curve was sharp. especially in comparison to other animals. why?

our development of ethics is, as said before, on a completely different level than that of the next species down the chain. why why why

not evolution. something a bit more.


User avatar #104 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
Easy:
1. Yes they do, but are so inconsistent, in-congruent and flat out contradictory that taking any sagely advice from any is a very poor idea. Plus, what is more likely; ancient peoples seeking answers for the unanswerable, or flying space geneticists?
2. The learning curve wasn't sharp; it was exponential, ergo it multiplied upon itself due to the basis it provided. We have a very good catalogue of all the achievements that lead to the combustion engine. We call it the history of science.
3. It is, but also very well documented and thought out. Not exactly a mystery.

4. Yes evolution; it's the only way to derive complexity from simplicity.
User avatar #113 - lolzordz (10/20/2014) [-]
flying space geneticists lol. youre acting like there could be no such thing as technologically advanced aliens.. look at us, were nearly there and it only took us like 20,000 years after coming down from them trees.



#72 - ... You literally misinterpreted or flat out ignored everythin…  [+] (9 new replies) 10/20/2014 on Redneck Retriever -1
User avatar #133 - biporch (10/21/2014) [-]
lol
#88 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #77 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
you are arguing with a guy who thinks foxes are canis and who uses caps and insults to get his point across. i think its safe to say hes just not knowledgeable on the subject and were probably wasting our time.
so how long did it take you to study genetics. my husband is working towards a phD in something a long those lines and im just curious. i dont know if hes going to do research in genetics but i know hes really interested in them.
User avatar #83 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
Presently I'm in Microbiology, but my courses are fairly divided between many biological doctrines, and genetics is one of the major ones, probably on par with my micro. I'm presently on my third year of studies for my undergrad, but will be jumping straight into my master's program afterwards.
Generally, a science program looks like this: 4-5 years undergrad, 2-4 years masters (can be up to 6), about 2-3 for a PhD then 2-4 years Post-Doc. It's looking like a goddamn climb, but I'm pretty thrilled to be doing it.
He couldn't have chosen a better time though; we are in the midst of a beautiful renaissance in biological sciences, and genetics is accelerating so quickly it's hard to say even how far we've come since even the 90's as the jump in knowledge is fantastically huge. Do you know what "kind" of genetics or organisms he's interested in?
#89 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #106 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
Canidae
Animal
The Canidae are the biological family of carnivorans that includes domestic dogs, wolves, foxes, jackals, coyotes, and many other lesser known extant and extinct dog-like mammals. A member of this family is called a canid. Wikipedia
but that doesnt make a fox a dog. foxes are vulpes dogs are canis.
User avatar #86 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
lol honestly i dont. i mean hes told me but the names are so long i get mixed up. i remember him mentioning microbiology. i think he wants to research auto immune deficiencies since he has a-plastic anemia so he wants to be able to help people in the future
User avatar #99 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
That's super neat; I wish him all the best, especially in a noble endeavour such as combating auto-immunity. She's a fickle bitch, I'll give her that.
User avatar #102 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
hes actually doing just fine but thank you. for a man with 20% bone marrow hes happy and dedicated to his studies. hes at school at the moment or i would be able to answer questions with more accuracy.
i also wish you the best. genetics are so vast and different its obviously not an easy study.
#67 - All I ask for is evidence. If it so happened that intelligent …  [+] (7 new replies) 10/20/2014 on Redneck Retriever 0
#92 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #75 - lolzordz (10/20/2014) [-]
i already explained how it could still be logical in spite of archaeological findings. but you seem way too arrogant to explore possibilities with a 'below average intelligence layman'
User avatar #78 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
No, it can't be logical because it doesn't explain the gradual improvement of tools over periods of time which had aliens been involved, we would have seen a fantastic vault , complete absence of meaningful similarity between folk religions which would be present, as even simple people would all have stories regarding such an event , or the development of intelligent ethics which would have been a fairly major oversight in any intelligently influenced system .
Also, I didn't say that; what I said was is that the issue isn't with average intelligence, but that evolution is a tricky subject to approach at first because it doesn't agree with our presupposed notions, despite being true.
I do know one thing now, though; you're not even really reading any of the comments against your position, or you wouldn't have quote-mined me. I do implore you to look into anthropology though, because the answers it'll provide will be infinitely more satisfying than aliens, I swear.
#93 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #84 - lolzordz (10/20/2014) [-]
many religions speak of higher beings. its the main reason i even consider aliens.

The newly modified ape wouldnt suddenly know how to make a car engine but they certainly had the capacity to all of a sudden. the learning curve was sharp. especially in comparison to other animals. why?

our development of ethics is, as said before, on a completely different level than that of the next species down the chain. why why why

not evolution. something a bit more.


User avatar #104 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
Easy:
1. Yes they do, but are so inconsistent, in-congruent and flat out contradictory that taking any sagely advice from any is a very poor idea. Plus, what is more likely; ancient peoples seeking answers for the unanswerable, or flying space geneticists?
2. The learning curve wasn't sharp; it was exponential, ergo it multiplied upon itself due to the basis it provided. We have a very good catalogue of all the achievements that lead to the combustion engine. We call it the history of science.
3. It is, but also very well documented and thought out. Not exactly a mystery.

4. Yes evolution; it's the only way to derive complexity from simplicity.
User avatar #113 - lolzordz (10/20/2014) [-]
flying space geneticists lol. youre acting like there could be no such thing as technologically advanced aliens.. look at us, were nearly there and it only took us like 20,000 years after coming down from them trees.



#65 - Words are our slaves, not our masters; in original Latin it ce…  [+] (12 new replies) 10/20/2014 on Redneck Retriever -1
#87 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
#68 - goodhomer (10/20/2014) [-]
So, let me get this straight.

You are trying to argue that Dogs are not Dogs because you say so?

It doesn't fucking matter what the biology of the situation is. Period. The fact is that word CANIS means DOG and all of the family of CANIDAE is a DOG even if they are not genetically the same.

The argument was never "They are the same thing" the argument was "They are ALL FUCKING DOGS" and they are and always will be until someone CHANGES that classification.

That is how words work. For ever and ever and ever.

You can't say that "Well they are CALLED dogs and they are NAMED dogs and they are CLASSIFIED as dogs, but really they aren't 'DOGS'" because then you are being a PEDANTIC SHITHEAD.

The fucking term 'Domesticated Dog' comes from the fact that they are part of the CANIDAE family.

Otherwise we would call them "Domesticated WOLVES"
User avatar #72 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
... You literally misinterpreted or flat out ignored everything I made mention of on the matter. You're literally arguing semantics, and trying to tell someone who's graduate studies will be in genetics that somehow words are more important than genes.
Now you can call me a shithead, or pedantic, or an idiot, or whatever. That doesn't bother me, because that doesn't impact my 3.5GPA, or the wealth of knowledge I've accrued over a (so far) successful academic career, or what I simply know as facts from critically accessing the experiments that gave rise to them.
You want to make this about personal arguments? Please do; only one of us will actually make a legitimate contribution to science, and it isn't the person getting hung up on what we subjectively name an animal.
User avatar #133 - biporch (10/21/2014) [-]
lol
#88 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #77 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
you are arguing with a guy who thinks foxes are canis and who uses caps and insults to get his point across. i think its safe to say hes just not knowledgeable on the subject and were probably wasting our time.
so how long did it take you to study genetics. my husband is working towards a phD in something a long those lines and im just curious. i dont know if hes going to do research in genetics but i know hes really interested in them.
User avatar #83 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
Presently I'm in Microbiology, but my courses are fairly divided between many biological doctrines, and genetics is one of the major ones, probably on par with my micro. I'm presently on my third year of studies for my undergrad, but will be jumping straight into my master's program afterwards.
Generally, a science program looks like this: 4-5 years undergrad, 2-4 years masters (can be up to 6), about 2-3 for a PhD then 2-4 years Post-Doc. It's looking like a goddamn climb, but I'm pretty thrilled to be doing it.
He couldn't have chosen a better time though; we are in the midst of a beautiful renaissance in biological sciences, and genetics is accelerating so quickly it's hard to say even how far we've come since even the 90's as the jump in knowledge is fantastically huge. Do you know what "kind" of genetics or organisms he's interested in?
#89 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #106 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
Canidae
Animal
The Canidae are the biological family of carnivorans that includes domestic dogs, wolves, foxes, jackals, coyotes, and many other lesser known extant and extinct dog-like mammals. A member of this family is called a canid. Wikipedia
but that doesnt make a fox a dog. foxes are vulpes dogs are canis.
User avatar #86 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
lol honestly i dont. i mean hes told me but the names are so long i get mixed up. i remember him mentioning microbiology. i think he wants to research auto immune deficiencies since he has a-plastic anemia so he wants to be able to help people in the future
User avatar #99 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
That's super neat; I wish him all the best, especially in a noble endeavour such as combating auto-immunity. She's a fickle bitch, I'll give her that.
User avatar #102 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
hes actually doing just fine but thank you. for a man with 20% bone marrow hes happy and dedicated to his studies. hes at school at the moment or i would be able to answer questions with more accuracy.
i also wish you the best. genetics are so vast and different its obviously not an easy study.
#61 - That's anthropocentrism talking, and unfortunately I don't hav…  [+] (18 new replies) 10/20/2014 on Redneck Retriever -1
#85 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #97 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
Oh, you're so cool. Read the rest of what I said; my issue is not about the etymology, but the biology (ergo, the part that matters)
Enjoy the block.

An aside: Dictionary staff frequently disagree and contradict on definitions; which is why we use science instead.
#98 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
I can't hear you over how wrong you are.
#62 - goodhomer (10/20/2014) [-]
THE FUCKING WORD CANIS MEANS DOG.

At what point did you decide to just completely ignore the fucking words you use? Are you so retarded with stupidity that you have no idea how SPEAKING works?
User avatar #76 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
the word canis means dog. foxes are not canis lupis. they are vulpes. so no and let me do this in the way you seem to like
NO FOXES ARE NOT DOGS IN ANY SORT OF WAY
User avatar #65 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
Words are our slaves, not our masters; in original Latin it certainly does, but that's not actually what's occurring here; the name was selected because these related animals have a close resemblance to a species humans have spent a large amount of time coexisting with, and as such we (incorrectly) assigned the term Canis to the genera of animals most closely related to dogs.
Genetically and evolutionarily (the only aspects of this silly argument that matters), wolves, jackals and foxes are not dogs. Dogs are dogs. Words do not make fact; the natural world does, and the natural world says (genetically) that wolves are not dogs.
#87 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
#68 - goodhomer (10/20/2014) [-]
So, let me get this straight.

You are trying to argue that Dogs are not Dogs because you say so?

It doesn't fucking matter what the biology of the situation is. Period. The fact is that word CANIS means DOG and all of the family of CANIDAE is a DOG even if they are not genetically the same.

The argument was never "They are the same thing" the argument was "They are ALL FUCKING DOGS" and they are and always will be until someone CHANGES that classification.

That is how words work. For ever and ever and ever.

You can't say that "Well they are CALLED dogs and they are NAMED dogs and they are CLASSIFIED as dogs, but really they aren't 'DOGS'" because then you are being a PEDANTIC SHITHEAD.

The fucking term 'Domesticated Dog' comes from the fact that they are part of the CANIDAE family.

Otherwise we would call them "Domesticated WOLVES"
User avatar #72 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
... You literally misinterpreted or flat out ignored everything I made mention of on the matter. You're literally arguing semantics, and trying to tell someone who's graduate studies will be in genetics that somehow words are more important than genes.
Now you can call me a shithead, or pedantic, or an idiot, or whatever. That doesn't bother me, because that doesn't impact my 3.5GPA, or the wealth of knowledge I've accrued over a (so far) successful academic career, or what I simply know as facts from critically accessing the experiments that gave rise to them.
You want to make this about personal arguments? Please do; only one of us will actually make a legitimate contribution to science, and it isn't the person getting hung up on what we subjectively name an animal.
User avatar #133 - biporch (10/21/2014) [-]
lol
#88 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #77 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
you are arguing with a guy who thinks foxes are canis and who uses caps and insults to get his point across. i think its safe to say hes just not knowledgeable on the subject and were probably wasting our time.
so how long did it take you to study genetics. my husband is working towards a phD in something a long those lines and im just curious. i dont know if hes going to do research in genetics but i know hes really interested in them.
User avatar #83 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
Presently I'm in Microbiology, but my courses are fairly divided between many biological doctrines, and genetics is one of the major ones, probably on par with my micro. I'm presently on my third year of studies for my undergrad, but will be jumping straight into my master's program afterwards.
Generally, a science program looks like this: 4-5 years undergrad, 2-4 years masters (can be up to 6), about 2-3 for a PhD then 2-4 years Post-Doc. It's looking like a goddamn climb, but I'm pretty thrilled to be doing it.
He couldn't have chosen a better time though; we are in the midst of a beautiful renaissance in biological sciences, and genetics is accelerating so quickly it's hard to say even how far we've come since even the 90's as the jump in knowledge is fantastically huge. Do you know what "kind" of genetics or organisms he's interested in?
#89 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #106 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
Canidae
Animal
The Canidae are the biological family of carnivorans that includes domestic dogs, wolves, foxes, jackals, coyotes, and many other lesser known extant and extinct dog-like mammals. A member of this family is called a canid. Wikipedia
but that doesnt make a fox a dog. foxes are vulpes dogs are canis.
User avatar #86 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
lol honestly i dont. i mean hes told me but the names are so long i get mixed up. i remember him mentioning microbiology. i think he wants to research auto immune deficiencies since he has a-plastic anemia so he wants to be able to help people in the future
User avatar #99 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
That's super neat; I wish him all the best, especially in a noble endeavour such as combating auto-immunity. She's a fickle bitch, I'll give her that.
User avatar #102 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
hes actually doing just fine but thank you. for a man with 20% bone marrow hes happy and dedicated to his studies. hes at school at the moment or i would be able to answer questions with more accuracy.
i also wish you the best. genetics are so vast and different its obviously not an easy study.
#54 - No, he doesn't. He just understands there's a model we can exp…  [+] (11 new replies) 10/20/2014 on Redneck Retriever 0
User avatar #152 - sciencexplain (10/21/2014) [-]
I want to have your babies. They will be geniuses.
#91 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #64 - lolzordz (10/20/2014) [-]
*copied and pasted from my reply to scienceexplain*
I know im no genius but it doesnt take a genius to consider the possibilities. The future of mankind, having left earth already because we ran out of resources. we make radical advancements in order to survive just that. many years onwards we come up with the technology to make bluetooth look like childsplay. how hard is it to imagine? why do i seem radical?

does my theory seem as illogical to you as mobile phones may have seemed to someone 2 thousand years ago?
User avatar #67 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
All I ask for is evidence. If it so happened that intelligent alien life somehow gave rise to human beings which it didn't, by the way; strong migratory ability plus fire gave us that , then please, bring the facts and information relevant to the table. You'd revolutionize our perspective of humankind overnight.
Except you can't, and couldn't. Archaeological finds firmly place early humans in Africa, and a project run by the National Geographic Foundation mapped the routes our ancestors took out of the continent across the globe, by following bones and settlements and the evidence left behind. So yes, it is illogical, because it conflicts with the actual logic that follows from the information that we know.
Now, if you are deeply passionate about this sort of thing, I suggest a career in archaeological or biological anthropology. Or at least a book on the subject, of which I can't suggest as I study microbiology.
#92 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #75 - lolzordz (10/20/2014) [-]
i already explained how it could still be logical in spite of archaeological findings. but you seem way too arrogant to explore possibilities with a 'below average intelligence layman'
User avatar #78 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
No, it can't be logical because it doesn't explain the gradual improvement of tools over periods of time which had aliens been involved, we would have seen a fantastic vault , complete absence of meaningful similarity between folk religions which would be present, as even simple people would all have stories regarding such an event , or the development of intelligent ethics which would have been a fairly major oversight in any intelligently influenced system .
Also, I didn't say that; what I said was is that the issue isn't with average intelligence, but that evolution is a tricky subject to approach at first because it doesn't agree with our presupposed notions, despite being true.
I do know one thing now, though; you're not even really reading any of the comments against your position, or you wouldn't have quote-mined me. I do implore you to look into anthropology though, because the answers it'll provide will be infinitely more satisfying than aliens, I swear.
#93 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #84 - lolzordz (10/20/2014) [-]
many religions speak of higher beings. its the main reason i even consider aliens.

The newly modified ape wouldnt suddenly know how to make a car engine but they certainly had the capacity to all of a sudden. the learning curve was sharp. especially in comparison to other animals. why?

our development of ethics is, as said before, on a completely different level than that of the next species down the chain. why why why

not evolution. something a bit more.


User avatar #104 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
Easy:
1. Yes they do, but are so inconsistent, in-congruent and flat out contradictory that taking any sagely advice from any is a very poor idea. Plus, what is more likely; ancient peoples seeking answers for the unanswerable, or flying space geneticists?
2. The learning curve wasn't sharp; it was exponential, ergo it multiplied upon itself due to the basis it provided. We have a very good catalogue of all the achievements that lead to the combustion engine. We call it the history of science.
3. It is, but also very well documented and thought out. Not exactly a mystery.

4. Yes evolution; it's the only way to derive complexity from simplicity.
User avatar #113 - lolzordz (10/20/2014) [-]
flying space geneticists lol. youre acting like there could be no such thing as technologically advanced aliens.. look at us, were nearly there and it only took us like 20,000 years after coming down from them trees.



#52 - I'm sorry, you're just.... wrong. Dog is a reference to the do…  [+] (23 new replies) 10/20/2014 on Redneck Retriever -1
#94 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
#56 - goodhomer (10/20/2014) [-]
No, YOU are fucking wrong.

The word Dog DOES NOT ONLY APPLY TO DOMESTICATED DOGS.

DOG IS THE WORD FOR ALL CANIDAE.

God fucking damn ALL OF THEM. I don't give a shit if you don't like that it is EXACTLY what the fucking word means.

DOMESTICATED DOGS are called DOGS because they are the DOMESTIC form of CANIDAE.

Get it?
User avatar #100 - opticmonkey (10/20/2014) [-]
I don't understand why you're the one getting thumbed up, you're wrong. Dogs are by definition domesticated animals, there is no distinction between domesticated dogs and wild dogs. Colloquially we call all canines dogs the same way we call felines cats, but technically yes, the word dog does only apply to domesticated dogs.
User avatar #129 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
hes referring the word canis but really canis means canine if im not mistaken and if i am then im sorry. but he still thinks that foxes are dogs. and for some reason hes being thumbed up for that. and its really bothering me lol.
User avatar #61 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
That's anthropocentrism talking, and unfortunately I don't have time for nutters who have never opened a biology textbook. Have a nice day.

Actually, a side note: "Dog" isn't actually a scientific term, hence why we use Latin Binomenclature to differentiate different species; it helps standardize and organize the extensive evolutionary tree. So, in essence, you're literally talking nonsense.

I wouldn't be so blithely arrogant if I were you, especially when attempting to discuss scientific matters with people in the Faculty of Science.
#85 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #97 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
Oh, you're so cool. Read the rest of what I said; my issue is not about the etymology, but the biology (ergo, the part that matters)
Enjoy the block.

An aside: Dictionary staff frequently disagree and contradict on definitions; which is why we use science instead.
#98 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
I can't hear you over how wrong you are.
#62 - goodhomer (10/20/2014) [-]
THE FUCKING WORD CANIS MEANS DOG.

At what point did you decide to just completely ignore the fucking words you use? Are you so retarded with stupidity that you have no idea how SPEAKING works?
User avatar #76 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
the word canis means dog. foxes are not canis lupis. they are vulpes. so no and let me do this in the way you seem to like
NO FOXES ARE NOT DOGS IN ANY SORT OF WAY
User avatar #65 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
Words are our slaves, not our masters; in original Latin it certainly does, but that's not actually what's occurring here; the name was selected because these related animals have a close resemblance to a species humans have spent a large amount of time coexisting with, and as such we (incorrectly) assigned the term Canis to the genera of animals most closely related to dogs.
Genetically and evolutionarily (the only aspects of this silly argument that matters), wolves, jackals and foxes are not dogs. Dogs are dogs. Words do not make fact; the natural world does, and the natural world says (genetically) that wolves are not dogs.
#87 - haus (10/20/2014) [-]
#68 - goodhomer (10/20/2014) [-]
So, let me get this straight.

You are trying to argue that Dogs are not Dogs because you say so?

It doesn't fucking matter what the biology of the situation is. Period. The fact is that word CANIS means DOG and all of the family of CANIDAE is a DOG even if they are not genetically the same.

The argument was never "They are the same thing" the argument was "They are ALL FUCKING DOGS" and they are and always will be until someone CHANGES that classification.

That is how words work. For ever and ever and ever.

You can't say that "Well they are CALLED dogs and they are NAMED dogs and they are CLASSIFIED as dogs, but really they aren't 'DOGS'" because then you are being a PEDANTIC SHITHEAD.

The fucking term 'Domesticated Dog' comes from the fact that they are part of the CANIDAE family.

Otherwise we would call them "Domesticated WOLVES"
User avatar #72 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
... You literally misinterpreted or flat out ignored everything I made mention of on the matter. You're literally arguing semantics, and trying to tell someone who's graduate studies will be in genetics that somehow words are more important than genes.
Now you can call me a shithead, or pedantic, or an idiot, or whatever. That doesn't bother me, because that doesn't impact my 3.5GPA, or the wealth of knowledge I've accrued over a (so far) successful academic career, or what I simply know as facts from critically accessing the experiments that gave rise to them.
You want to make this about personal arguments? Please do; only one of us will actually make a legitimate contribution to science, and it isn't the person getting hung up on what we subjectively name an animal.
User avatar #133 - biporch (10/21/2014) [-]
lol
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User avatar #77 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
you are arguing with a guy who thinks foxes are canis and who uses caps and insults to get his point across. i think its safe to say hes just not knowledgeable on the subject and were probably wasting our time.
so how long did it take you to study genetics. my husband is working towards a phD in something a long those lines and im just curious. i dont know if hes going to do research in genetics but i know hes really interested in them.
User avatar #83 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
Presently I'm in Microbiology, but my courses are fairly divided between many biological doctrines, and genetics is one of the major ones, probably on par with my micro. I'm presently on my third year of studies for my undergrad, but will be jumping straight into my master's program afterwards.
Generally, a science program looks like this: 4-5 years undergrad, 2-4 years masters (can be up to 6), about 2-3 for a PhD then 2-4 years Post-Doc. It's looking like a goddamn climb, but I'm pretty thrilled to be doing it.
He couldn't have chosen a better time though; we are in the midst of a beautiful renaissance in biological sciences, and genetics is accelerating so quickly it's hard to say even how far we've come since even the 90's as the jump in knowledge is fantastically huge. Do you know what "kind" of genetics or organisms he's interested in?
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User avatar #106 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
Canidae
Animal
The Canidae are the biological family of carnivorans that includes domestic dogs, wolves, foxes, jackals, coyotes, and many other lesser known extant and extinct dog-like mammals. A member of this family is called a canid. Wikipedia
but that doesnt make a fox a dog. foxes are vulpes dogs are canis.
User avatar #86 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
lol honestly i dont. i mean hes told me but the names are so long i get mixed up. i remember him mentioning microbiology. i think he wants to research auto immune deficiencies since he has a-plastic anemia so he wants to be able to help people in the future
User avatar #99 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
That's super neat; I wish him all the best, especially in a noble endeavour such as combating auto-immunity. She's a fickle bitch, I'll give her that.
User avatar #102 - littleliz (10/20/2014) [-]
hes actually doing just fine but thank you. for a man with 20% bone marrow hes happy and dedicated to his studies. hes at school at the moment or i would be able to answer questions with more accuracy.
i also wish you the best. genetics are so vast and different its obviously not an easy study.
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User avatar #47 - sciencexplain (10/20/2014) [-]
Well, I try. It's always a battle between saying it simply and saying it right, and I often make mistakes in my writing, but I do try and help those who want to understand it. Just nice to be appreciated for once.
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User avatar #93 - heartlessrobot (10/20/2014) [-]
A little too much body hair for his build, in my opinion.
User avatar #95 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
Don't you dare Hassel the Hoff.
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User avatar #90 - heartlessrobot (10/20/2014) [-]
What if it's break-even?
Or I was unconscious/asleep for some of the orgy.
User avatar #91 - bokkos (10/20/2014) [-]
Well, being at an orgy would place you under "Fornicators", so you'd be doomed either way. If it's break even, I guess they flash a picture of David Hasselhoff at the pearly gates, judge the speed of the ensuing erection, then damn you accordingly.
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User avatar #93 - heartlessrobot (10/20/2014) [-]
A little too much body hair for his build, in my opinion.
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Don't you dare Hassel the Hoff.
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