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#122 - lordraine (07/11/2014) [-]
I'm not upset at all. I'm always happy to have a civil exchange.
Tom was able to handle the One Ring without being affected by it's power. What's more, he was even able to wear it, and the ring not only held no sway over him, but it did not alert Sauron when he put it on.
Tom Mastered the One Ring. He forced it to obey him, in defiance of the Ring's own nature, and in defiance of Sauron's power. Even Aragorn could not have done that.
Because of that, the list of things he 'could' be is incredibly short. Pretty much any spiritual being that isn't a Valar or Illuvatar himself is automatically disqualified, simply because spiritual beings are more vulnerable to the corruption of the Ring, not less so. This is why the eagles couldn't simply fly them to Mordor. They are Spirits of the Wind, and would be unable to resist the call of the Ring.
The only way Tom could have done what he did is if he either wasn't a spirit at all (which is extremely improbable, as you probably well know), or if he outranked Sauron in terms of power, which means Tom must be be greater than the Maiar. That means he must be one of the Valar, if he isn't Illuvatar.
My theory is that he is Aulë. Aulë was one of the Valar, and the Lord of the Forge. He is the Master of the Earth and All Things Within It, and his domain extends to all things that are forged by working hands.
#123 - lordraine (07/11/2014) [-]
Aulë is the strongest candidate for three reasons. The first is the absolute mastery he showed over the One Ring. It held no power over him whatsoever. It did not even tempt him. If he was Aulë, this makes perfect sense. The One Ring was forged and crafted, and is made from the metals of the Earth. Not only would it hold no power over him whatsoever, but he would hold absolute power over it, superseding any claim Sauron had.
The second reason is his own words. He cared nothing for owning the ring. This mirrors Aulë's own words at the Dawn. Aulë cares nothing for ownership or possession of objects: only the making of them. This is a virtue that did not extend to the race Aulë created, the dwarves, and remains to this day arguably their greatest weakness: they lust and covet material wealth above all other things.
The third and final reason is Goldberry. Of the Valar Lords and the Valar Queens, only two sets of couples are known to exist. The first is Manwe, King of the Valar, and his bride Varda, Queen of the Stars. The second is Aulë, Lord of the Forge, and his beloved wife Yavanna, Giver of Fruits.
Now, an argument could be made that Tom was Manwe. While Aulë has a powerful connection to Arda and an explicit connection to all crafted things and the materials that come from the earth, it could not be denied that Manwe could likely dominate the One Ring with ease. His power is truly great.
However, Goldberry changes the game. When the Hobbits leave Tom's abode, they see Goldberry's outline shiver and fade away. Her hair becomes like the gold of wheat, and her eyes and lips become like ripened fruits. For a moment, they see her not as a human, but as a personification of the harvest and bounty of the land.
This sort of appearance and description would never apply to Varda. She is the Queen of the Stars, the Highest Holies of the Elven peoples. She would appear as terrible light and piercing song.
But that description would certainly apply to Yavanna.
#124 - lordraine (07/11/2014) [-]
Thus I conclude that the most probable identity of Tom Bombadil is Aulë, Lord of the Forge, and that Goldberry, Tom's wife, is none other than Yavanna, Giver of Fruits. It explains everything. Tom's casual mastery of the One Ring, the presence and nature of Yavanna. Even why he would want to see the Hobbits off is explained by this: Sauron, before being corrupted by Melkor, was one of Aulë's Maiar, and Curumo, otherwise known as Saruman, was also one of the Maiar beneath Aulë's banner.
Both Sauron and Saruman represent the corrupting powers that can be derived from industry and the works wrought by reaching hands. They are the wickedness of industry, in contrast to Aulë, who holds pure the ideal of creating things for creation's own sake, seeking not to own the land or the works of his hands, but to give them away, to teach and protect.
Sauron and Saruman are both, in a way, Aulë's responsibility. So even though, in being a Valar, his own hands are tied, it makes sense that he would take interest in any endeavors made that were cast against their wickedness.
Thus, the reason for Tom being there to help the Hobbits in a time of need and wish them well on their journey makes perfect sense. He knows that Sauron and Saruman are the ultimate foes they must face, and he wants to wish them well and give them his blessing in their quest.
That's why I believe that Tom is a Valar. I think Tom Bombadil is Aulë, and Goldberry is Yavanna.
#125 - beerterror (07/11/2014) [-]
That's astoundingly far-fetched, yet even more surprisingly well-grounded theory. I concur that it is possible for Tom and Goldberry to be in fact Aule and Yavanna, though we can't assume it to be true without any literal statements from the Source (or Logoz perhaps?) - I mean Christopher.
Still, let me present my argument. I can't spend too much time making such an elaborate response, so it would be much more crude. My trail of thought goes like this:
One Ring is a part of Sauron's essence --> Sauron is a Maia of Ainur --> the power differs in magnitude but not in nature among the Ainur --> Morgoth was unable to control Ungoliant (who was obviously weaker than him, even after feasting on Trees and Varda's Wells) ---> Tom could be somehow similar in nature to Ungoliant, who was always described to something entirely different to Maia.
Also, someway among the Council in Rivendell was asked whether Tom controls the Ring, and I think Gandalf answered that no, the Ring doesn't control Tom. So in my opinion it's more of incompatibility in origins of their power than to difference of magnitude.
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