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#31499 - You can do bodyweight each day. The reason you should only exe… 05/22/2015 on Fitness - muscle and... +1
#31496 - You can try DNP but that ****** illegal.  [+] (1 new reply) 05/22/2015 on Fitness - muscle and... 0
User avatar #31511 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
Or it'll kill you.
#31494 - They consist of mostly sugar so watch out. They're a good sour…  [+] (2 new replies) 05/22/2015 on Fitness - muscle and... 0
User avatar #31508 - insertclevernames (05/22/2015) [-]
isnt it different from regular suger? like fructose or something? all ive been eating is grilled chicken, brown rice, and salad. lol. im looking for new shit to fill me up
User avatar #31510 - beatmasterz (05/22/2015) [-]
I'd go for complex carbs, they provide more energy over a longer time because they take longer to break down.

http://examples.yourdictionary . com/examples-of-complex-carbohydrates.html

The fruit in that list is approved but it doesn't really matter, as long as you eat at a deficit your weight loss shouldn't be in jeopardy.
#31493 - What about them?  [+] (21 new replies) 05/22/2015 on Fitness - muscle and... +1
User avatar #31495 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
I have a workout routine of push ups sit ups squats etc that I've intended to do every day and gradually increase reps
But apparently I should only be doing them 2-3 times per week?
And are they good enough for fat burning and muscle building or should I also look into weight lifting?
User avatar #31499 - beatmasterz (05/22/2015) [-]
You can do bodyweight each day. The reason you should only exercises a few times a week is because your body needs to recover. But bodyweight isn't very taxing on the body. So for fat loss and building muscle they're... alright. It's a good start but after a certain time there's no point in doing them anymore and you should move on to lifting. As for fat burning what you do doesn't really matter.

If I'm wrong then anybody correct me.
User avatar #31497 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
Weight lifting. Bodyweight exercises are fine for being in decent shape, but for building size and losing fat its bad.
User avatar #31500 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
So should I just cut out the body weight exercises?
Because I'm one of those spaghetti lords that hate doing things in public and going to a gym is terrifying to me
User avatar #31503 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
Bodyweight movements have their purposes, I do them. But you don't need them for size. Find a program like stronglifts 5x5, starting strength, or some other super reputable starter program. Follow it, improve every workout, rest enough. and eat enough decent food and then you'll see quality size gains, it's that simple, everything else is just complicating things at your stage. Being a beginner is easy.
User avatar #31507 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
Eating big and lifting*
User avatar #31506 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
About diet
I'm of the skinnyfat variety and my plan right now is to cut my calories to get rid of bellyfat
Should I just skip dieting and start eating big to bulk up or do I need to get rid of the fat first
User avatar #31509 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
It's a lot easier to lose fat when you have some muscle mass. When you are skinny fat you have an excess of fat but not much muscle mass, which means your metabolism is slow and you don't burn many calories unless you are exercising. Muscle burns a ton of calories at rest so try putting on 15-20 pounds of muscle first, then decide whether to cut or continue a bulk after that.
User avatar #31512 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
And that would take months, right?
Also as a hypothetical question what would happen if I started lifting but kept my low calorie diet? I've found a diet I quite like and having to replan it all would be a real pain
beatmasterz I like second opinions
User avatar #31535 - beatmasterz (05/23/2015) [-]
As a very beginner you can gain muscle on a low cal diet but after a month or two, you'll need to start bulking.
User avatar #31513 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
It would take a couple months at least either way. I just think you'd be better off in the long run cutting later.

And hypothetically, you'd lose weight and maybe gain a little muscle depending on your specific genetics and diet. You'd gain noticeable definition, but almost negligible size gains. So then you'd just look like a sort-of athletic spooky skeleton.
User avatar #31514 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
What about visible abs? Where does that work into all this
User avatar #31515 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
You'd probably get visible abs. Although being super skinny with visible abs isn't really considered impressive.

Abs are nice, yes, but if size is your ultimate goal I don't know if it is, you haven't specified , abs come second. I used to have super ridiculous abs when I was 145 pounds. But now that I'm 200 with great abs I feel much more proud of them.
User avatar #31517 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
I guess I don't really want to get too big, just fairly ripped so I can have my shirt off without being embarrassed
And what I've been stuck on for the past 45 minutes are 3 things
First is going to a gym and exercising in public which for some reason is terrifying to me
Second is figuring out what exactly to do at the gym
And third is figuring out a way to pack so many healthy calories into my gut
All of these things are shit I either need to work out by myself or do some quick google searches on
So thanks for all your help, man
I might still have some questions that I'll remember later...
User avatar #31518 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
Don't worry about getting "too big". It took me 18 months to gain 60 pounds of healthy weight, which is really fast compared to usual progress. So one thing at a time.

You're probably scared because it's a new environment you're unfamiliar with, you think people will judge and ridicule you because you are unsure of what you're doing. Truth is, most people are rooting for you and will cheer you on and help you.

Also there's tons of tricks to pick up on eating more.
User avatar #31519 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
Okay and just to make 200% certain so I can go back to the drawing board with good info
Lifting weights will definitely burn fat and build muscle at the same time?
User avatar #31526 - marinepenguin (05/23/2015) [-]
Sounds okay to me.
User avatar #31522 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
Beginners have an easier time of it, and being overweight may allow it sometimes as well, but otherwise unless you are taking strict supplementation with a great diet it's very hard. Plus it's slow progress.

Like I said, if you cut now, you'd lose a lot of fat and gain a little muscle maybe. It's not guarantee. Which is why I advised a bulk first.
User avatar #31524 - acroneos (05/23/2015) [-]
Well it sounds to me like I'll need to diet at some point anyways to get rid of this fat so I might as well do it now while I know what I'm doing
And while I'm dieting I'll figure out my next move in terms of working out and eating
Does anything sound particularly catastrophic in that plan?
User avatar #31520 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
No guarantee.
User avatar #31521 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
Even if I do it properly with a good routine/diet?
#31491 - Like what?  [+] (23 new replies) 05/22/2015 on Fitness - muscle and... +1
User avatar #31492 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
Bodyweight exercises
User avatar #31493 - beatmasterz (05/22/2015) [-]
What about them?
User avatar #31495 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
I have a workout routine of push ups sit ups squats etc that I've intended to do every day and gradually increase reps
But apparently I should only be doing them 2-3 times per week?
And are they good enough for fat burning and muscle building or should I also look into weight lifting?
User avatar #31499 - beatmasterz (05/22/2015) [-]
You can do bodyweight each day. The reason you should only exercises a few times a week is because your body needs to recover. But bodyweight isn't very taxing on the body. So for fat loss and building muscle they're... alright. It's a good start but after a certain time there's no point in doing them anymore and you should move on to lifting. As for fat burning what you do doesn't really matter.

If I'm wrong then anybody correct me.
User avatar #31497 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
Weight lifting. Bodyweight exercises are fine for being in decent shape, but for building size and losing fat its bad.
User avatar #31500 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
So should I just cut out the body weight exercises?
Because I'm one of those spaghetti lords that hate doing things in public and going to a gym is terrifying to me
User avatar #31503 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
Bodyweight movements have their purposes, I do them. But you don't need them for size. Find a program like stronglifts 5x5, starting strength, or some other super reputable starter program. Follow it, improve every workout, rest enough. and eat enough decent food and then you'll see quality size gains, it's that simple, everything else is just complicating things at your stage. Being a beginner is easy.
User avatar #31507 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
Eating big and lifting*
User avatar #31506 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
About diet
I'm of the skinnyfat variety and my plan right now is to cut my calories to get rid of bellyfat
Should I just skip dieting and start eating big to bulk up or do I need to get rid of the fat first
User avatar #31509 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
It's a lot easier to lose fat when you have some muscle mass. When you are skinny fat you have an excess of fat but not much muscle mass, which means your metabolism is slow and you don't burn many calories unless you are exercising. Muscle burns a ton of calories at rest so try putting on 15-20 pounds of muscle first, then decide whether to cut or continue a bulk after that.
User avatar #31512 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
And that would take months, right?
Also as a hypothetical question what would happen if I started lifting but kept my low calorie diet? I've found a diet I quite like and having to replan it all would be a real pain
beatmasterz I like second opinions
User avatar #31535 - beatmasterz (05/23/2015) [-]
As a very beginner you can gain muscle on a low cal diet but after a month or two, you'll need to start bulking.
User avatar #31513 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
It would take a couple months at least either way. I just think you'd be better off in the long run cutting later.

And hypothetically, you'd lose weight and maybe gain a little muscle depending on your specific genetics and diet. You'd gain noticeable definition, but almost negligible size gains. So then you'd just look like a sort-of athletic spooky skeleton.
User avatar #31514 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
What about visible abs? Where does that work into all this
User avatar #31515 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
You'd probably get visible abs. Although being super skinny with visible abs isn't really considered impressive.

Abs are nice, yes, but if size is your ultimate goal I don't know if it is, you haven't specified , abs come second. I used to have super ridiculous abs when I was 145 pounds. But now that I'm 200 with great abs I feel much more proud of them.
User avatar #31517 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
I guess I don't really want to get too big, just fairly ripped so I can have my shirt off without being embarrassed
And what I've been stuck on for the past 45 minutes are 3 things
First is going to a gym and exercising in public which for some reason is terrifying to me
Second is figuring out what exactly to do at the gym
And third is figuring out a way to pack so many healthy calories into my gut
All of these things are shit I either need to work out by myself or do some quick google searches on
So thanks for all your help, man
I might still have some questions that I'll remember later...
User avatar #31518 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
Don't worry about getting "too big". It took me 18 months to gain 60 pounds of healthy weight, which is really fast compared to usual progress. So one thing at a time.

You're probably scared because it's a new environment you're unfamiliar with, you think people will judge and ridicule you because you are unsure of what you're doing. Truth is, most people are rooting for you and will cheer you on and help you.

Also there's tons of tricks to pick up on eating more.
User avatar #31519 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
Okay and just to make 200% certain so I can go back to the drawing board with good info
Lifting weights will definitely burn fat and build muscle at the same time?
User avatar #31526 - marinepenguin (05/23/2015) [-]
Sounds okay to me.
User avatar #31522 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
Beginners have an easier time of it, and being overweight may allow it sometimes as well, but otherwise unless you are taking strict supplementation with a great diet it's very hard. Plus it's slow progress.

Like I said, if you cut now, you'd lose a lot of fat and gain a little muscle maybe. It's not guarantee. Which is why I advised a bulk first.
User avatar #31524 - acroneos (05/23/2015) [-]
Well it sounds to me like I'll need to diet at some point anyways to get rid of this fat so I might as well do it now while I know what I'm doing
And while I'm dieting I'll figure out my next move in terms of working out and eating
Does anything sound particularly catastrophic in that plan?
User avatar #31520 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
No guarantee.
User avatar #31521 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
Even if I do it properly with a good routine/diet?
#31489 - http://liamrosen . com/fitness.html there it is  [+] (25 new replies) 05/22/2015 on Fitness - muscle and... +1
User avatar #31490 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
I've already read that I still have questions
User avatar #31491 - beatmasterz (05/22/2015) [-]
Like what?
User avatar #31492 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
Bodyweight exercises
User avatar #31493 - beatmasterz (05/22/2015) [-]
What about them?
User avatar #31495 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
I have a workout routine of push ups sit ups squats etc that I've intended to do every day and gradually increase reps
But apparently I should only be doing them 2-3 times per week?
And are they good enough for fat burning and muscle building or should I also look into weight lifting?
User avatar #31499 - beatmasterz (05/22/2015) [-]
You can do bodyweight each day. The reason you should only exercises a few times a week is because your body needs to recover. But bodyweight isn't very taxing on the body. So for fat loss and building muscle they're... alright. It's a good start but after a certain time there's no point in doing them anymore and you should move on to lifting. As for fat burning what you do doesn't really matter.

If I'm wrong then anybody correct me.
User avatar #31497 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
Weight lifting. Bodyweight exercises are fine for being in decent shape, but for building size and losing fat its bad.
User avatar #31500 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
So should I just cut out the body weight exercises?
Because I'm one of those spaghetti lords that hate doing things in public and going to a gym is terrifying to me
User avatar #31503 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
Bodyweight movements have their purposes, I do them. But you don't need them for size. Find a program like stronglifts 5x5, starting strength, or some other super reputable starter program. Follow it, improve every workout, rest enough. and eat enough decent food and then you'll see quality size gains, it's that simple, everything else is just complicating things at your stage. Being a beginner is easy.
User avatar #31507 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
Eating big and lifting*
User avatar #31506 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
About diet
I'm of the skinnyfat variety and my plan right now is to cut my calories to get rid of bellyfat
Should I just skip dieting and start eating big to bulk up or do I need to get rid of the fat first
User avatar #31509 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
It's a lot easier to lose fat when you have some muscle mass. When you are skinny fat you have an excess of fat but not much muscle mass, which means your metabolism is slow and you don't burn many calories unless you are exercising. Muscle burns a ton of calories at rest so try putting on 15-20 pounds of muscle first, then decide whether to cut or continue a bulk after that.
User avatar #31512 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
And that would take months, right?
Also as a hypothetical question what would happen if I started lifting but kept my low calorie diet? I've found a diet I quite like and having to replan it all would be a real pain
beatmasterz I like second opinions
User avatar #31535 - beatmasterz (05/23/2015) [-]
As a very beginner you can gain muscle on a low cal diet but after a month or two, you'll need to start bulking.
User avatar #31513 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
It would take a couple months at least either way. I just think you'd be better off in the long run cutting later.

And hypothetically, you'd lose weight and maybe gain a little muscle depending on your specific genetics and diet. You'd gain noticeable definition, but almost negligible size gains. So then you'd just look like a sort-of athletic spooky skeleton.
User avatar #31514 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
What about visible abs? Where does that work into all this
User avatar #31515 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
You'd probably get visible abs. Although being super skinny with visible abs isn't really considered impressive.

Abs are nice, yes, but if size is your ultimate goal I don't know if it is, you haven't specified , abs come second. I used to have super ridiculous abs when I was 145 pounds. But now that I'm 200 with great abs I feel much more proud of them.
User avatar #31517 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
I guess I don't really want to get too big, just fairly ripped so I can have my shirt off without being embarrassed
And what I've been stuck on for the past 45 minutes are 3 things
First is going to a gym and exercising in public which for some reason is terrifying to me
Second is figuring out what exactly to do at the gym
And third is figuring out a way to pack so many healthy calories into my gut
All of these things are shit I either need to work out by myself or do some quick google searches on
So thanks for all your help, man
I might still have some questions that I'll remember later...
User avatar #31518 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
Don't worry about getting "too big". It took me 18 months to gain 60 pounds of healthy weight, which is really fast compared to usual progress. So one thing at a time.

You're probably scared because it's a new environment you're unfamiliar with, you think people will judge and ridicule you because you are unsure of what you're doing. Truth is, most people are rooting for you and will cheer you on and help you.

Also there's tons of tricks to pick up on eating more.
User avatar #31519 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
Okay and just to make 200% certain so I can go back to the drawing board with good info
Lifting weights will definitely burn fat and build muscle at the same time?
User avatar #31526 - marinepenguin (05/23/2015) [-]
Sounds okay to me.
User avatar #31522 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
Beginners have an easier time of it, and being overweight may allow it sometimes as well, but otherwise unless you are taking strict supplementation with a great diet it's very hard. Plus it's slow progress.

Like I said, if you cut now, you'd lose a lot of fat and gain a little muscle maybe. It's not guarantee. Which is why I advised a bulk first.
User avatar #31524 - acroneos (05/23/2015) [-]
Well it sounds to me like I'll need to diet at some point anyways to get rid of this fat so I might as well do it now while I know what I'm doing
And while I'm dieting I'll figure out my next move in terms of working out and eating
Does anything sound particularly catastrophic in that plan?
User avatar #31520 - marinepenguin (05/22/2015) [-]
No guarantee.
User avatar #31521 - acroneos (05/22/2015) [-]
Even if I do it properly with a good routine/diet?
#31488 - Read the sticky on /fit/. It has all the basic information tha… 05/22/2015 on Fitness - muscle and... +1
#131 - xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 05/22/2015 on asdasdasda -4
#110 - Same with the "hitler being alright" meme. The other…  [+] (7 new replies) 05/22/2015 on asdasdasda +4
User avatar #170 - lucariopwnz (05/22/2015) [-]
To be fair they weren't actually praising his actions during WWII. They were praising the years that came before it. He was the leader of Germany for several years before WW2 and had that not come to pass he would be considered one of the best leaders of the modern world. His actions and beliefs may not have been the best choices morally, but that doesn't change the fact that he was after all an accomplished leader. He pulled germany out of a pretty rough slump if I remember right.
#167 - trollmobile (05/22/2015) [-]
"any group that gets their laughs pretending to be idiots, will eventually be overrun by actual idiots that think they are in good company" - some guy from the 1800s that i forgot the name of
this is why i'm against jokes like that being overused
like it or not, "hitler did nothing wrong" has made people like hitler more
"jet fuel can't melt steel beams" has created more 9/11 conspiracy nuts
"all muslims are terrorists" has increased islam hate, though as someone that isn't exactly a fan of the islamic ideology, i personally don't mind that much.
User avatar #215 - beams (05/22/2015) [-]
All muslims are terrorists. False. All terrorists are communists? Yes.
User avatar #162 - aldothenazi (05/22/2015) [-]
Wait, wait, wait. Praising Hitler is wrong? I actually think he was decent fellow, pushed to extreme measures by them filthy jews.
User avatar #135 - rockamekishiko (05/22/2015) [-]
if it makes you feel better, those people will never step outside to even make a difference
#129 - anon (05/22/2015) [-]
User avatar #131 - beatmasterz (05/22/2015) [-]
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
#285 - don't hate the playa, hate the game 05/22/2015 on The straight talk express +2
#14 - The captions look like a mom made them up. 05/22/2015 on let me in 0
#49 - True scotsman fallacy 05/22/2015 on Important things Tumblr... -1
#161 - Unattractive people are attracted to other unattractive people.  [+] (2 new replies) 05/22/2015 on The straight talk express +4
#241 - denniswilles (05/22/2015) [-]
User avatar #285 - beatmasterz (05/22/2015) [-]
don't hate the playa, hate the game
#362 - **** off schnizel  [+] (1 new reply) 05/22/2015 on hitlers speech still haunts me 0
#363 - schnizel (05/22/2015) [-]
No.
#361 - ***** that's just your opinion 05/22/2015 on hitlers speech still haunts me 0
#301 - Yeah dude I know all those things. Thing is though, everyone h…  [+] (1 new reply) 05/21/2015 on hitlers speech still haunts me 0
#313 - anon (05/21/2015) [-]
Pretty sure people are saying they'd vote for Hitler minus the genocide part. Nobody here is agreeing with genocide.
#68 - I would **** her senseless  [+] (2 new replies) 05/21/2015 on This woman was batshit crazy -3
User avatar #79 - commencingfailure (05/21/2015) [-]
but she is already senseless
#94 - funpunk (05/21/2015) [-]
I was going to make that joke myself, but I decided to take the high road. Good job taking the opportunity, now take my thumb.
#213 - source needed.  [+] (3 new replies) 05/21/2015 on hitlers speech still haunts me 0
#276 - edgecutter (05/21/2015) [-]
(I'm not the anon, but I'll butt in anyway)
I'm currently a bit too lazy to look up sources.
I'll however put a few words out there which are pretty common knowledge.
Hitler did try to get into an art academy, but was turned down because his art pieces lacked "life" if the critics of that time are to be believed.

His ideologies could most likely be derived from the Nazi party's full name.
NSDAP: Nazionale Socialistische Deutsche Arbeiter's Partei
(National Socialist German Labourer's Party)

It's all on the tin, really. "Comradery" = National (of "nationalist")
"Charity", "Health", "Prosperity" = Socialist
"Hard Work" = Labourer

Now, why was Hitler actually a pretty good guy aside from the genocide thing?
First off, he managed to get a cheap car into mass production, on a scale at which every German was going to be able to afford this "Volkswagen" (Direct translation is: "The people's car").
Not only that, but Hitler sank a lot of effort and money into building up the "Autobahn" ("Highway") so that you could effectively and efficiently use the Volkswagen to travel throughout the country. Hell, we're still using Hitler's Autobahn today.
This last one is left to your own discretion.
Hitler managed to fix up the fucked up economy which was a direct consequence of WWI. Inflation was so high that paying for one piece of bread costed literally millions of "marks" (German currency at the time). Though these prices fluctuated extremely every day. One day, it'd be a normal price, the other it'd cost millions. You get the idea.

How did Hitler fix this economy? Jobs. Lots of them. The construction of the Autobahn required workers. The assembly of the Volkswagen also required workers. Building more to further the goal of "Lebensraum" ("Living Space") also required workers.
To add it all on top of that, Hitler managed to create a shit ton more jobs by sinking a lot of the unemployed into munitions factories and weapons factories. (This includes but is probably not limited to: ammo, armoured vehicles, aircraft, small arms, other conventional weaponry, etc.)

Basically, after years of the German government fucking up in leading their people, here comes an Austrian fellow named Hitler who had great ideas to solve these problems and managed to do it. To add to that, Hitler was great at unifying the Germans back under one banner.

So is it at all surprising that if he had slightly different ideals regarding the Jews and minorities thing, that anyone would vote for him?
I don't think so. If it wasn't for the genocide and (the often "unjust") discrimination towards minorities, I'd vote for Hitler.

Even then, there have been cases of German minorities in Poland being heavily discriminated against. However, I myself am holding up a [Citation required] sign on this last one.
User avatar #301 - beatmasterz (05/21/2015) [-]
Yeah dude I know all those things. Thing is though, everyone has good and bad sides and usually the good outweigh the bad but not in this case. No sir. Yes the weimar republic failed horribly due to a shitty government and the stock crash in america fucked up the dawes plan.

The tactics hitler used was to take advantage of poor and starving and angry people. Instead of telling people the lame truth, he instead fed off the unified hate the people had and he created a common enemy. Yeah he was a good public speaker but leadership requries more than that. Populistic strategies like that only work when people are unhappy and prone to manipulation so I don't think it's that impressive. To lead people who are happy and critical about their surroundings, that is very impressive.

Honestly, I've caught myself more than once comparing the "red pill" movement with nazi tactics. They both justify all the loathing and negative feelings of the people and breed a common enemy (jews/women).

See where I'm getting at?
#313 - anon (05/21/2015) [-]
Pretty sure people are saying they'd vote for Hitler minus the genocide part. Nobody here is agreeing with genocide.
#205 - That's absolute ******** . Like anon said, they WERE A F…  [+] (3 new replies) 05/21/2015 on hitlers speech still haunts me +1
User avatar #356 - schnizel (05/22/2015) [-]
They were not fasticst, but national socialists. And it was not north Korea, only the criminals and the sick feared the wrath of the righteous.
User avatar #362 - beatmasterz (05/22/2015) [-]
fuck off schnizel
#363 - schnizel (05/22/2015) [-]
No.
#124 - yeah and if you take lasagna and subtract all the dough and sa…  [+] (2 new replies) 05/21/2015 on hitlers speech still haunts me +3
User avatar #357 - pedokuma (05/22/2015) [-]
and while lasagna is terrible, ground beef is alright
User avatar #361 - beatmasterz (05/22/2015) [-]
nigga that's just your opinion
#67 - This "hitler is good" is going a little too far. Peo…  [+] (40 new replies) 05/21/2015 on hitlers speech still haunts me -8
#335 - anon (05/21/2015) [-]
But.. what's the difference between what hitler did and how america started?

hitler was just pushing his religious beliefs... yea it killed a lot of people but hey theres still a lot left in the world///
User avatar #245 - thinemother (05/21/2015) [-]
I'm very easily influenced, so if I didn't know about the whole war and holocaust thing, I probably would.
#226 - anon (05/21/2015) [-]
if Hitler never became leader there are sevral things americans would miss out on to sex dolls , the highway was inspired by the one hitler made , nazis put us on the moom , 1 anti smoking campign he did a lot of good things, etc .......... its all perspective
#188 - anon (05/21/2015) [-]
Minus the Jew thing, he was a pretty decent guy. He had a beautiful outlook on life: comradery , charity, and hard work will lead to happiness, prosperity, & health was his basic ideals. He just got really depressed, went bat shit crazy & started killing Jews. Prior to all of that he wanted to be an artist
User avatar #213 - beatmasterz (05/21/2015) [-]
source needed.
#276 - edgecutter (05/21/2015) [-]
(I'm not the anon, but I'll butt in anyway)
I'm currently a bit too lazy to look up sources.
I'll however put a few words out there which are pretty common knowledge.
Hitler did try to get into an art academy, but was turned down because his art pieces lacked "life" if the critics of that time are to be believed.

His ideologies could most likely be derived from the Nazi party's full name.
NSDAP: Nazionale Socialistische Deutsche Arbeiter's Partei
(National Socialist German Labourer's Party)

It's all on the tin, really. "Comradery" = National (of "nationalist")
"Charity", "Health", "Prosperity" = Socialist
"Hard Work" = Labourer

Now, why was Hitler actually a pretty good guy aside from the genocide thing?
First off, he managed to get a cheap car into mass production, on a scale at which every German was going to be able to afford this "Volkswagen" (Direct translation is: "The people's car").
Not only that, but Hitler sank a lot of effort and money into building up the "Autobahn" ("Highway") so that you could effectively and efficiently use the Volkswagen to travel throughout the country. Hell, we're still using Hitler's Autobahn today.
This last one is left to your own discretion.
Hitler managed to fix up the fucked up economy which was a direct consequence of WWI. Inflation was so high that paying for one piece of bread costed literally millions of "marks" (German currency at the time). Though these prices fluctuated extremely every day. One day, it'd be a normal price, the other it'd cost millions. You get the idea.

How did Hitler fix this economy? Jobs. Lots of them. The construction of the Autobahn required workers. The assembly of the Volkswagen also required workers. Building more to further the goal of "Lebensraum" ("Living Space") also required workers.
To add it all on top of that, Hitler managed to create a shit ton more jobs by sinking a lot of the unemployed into munitions factories and weapons factories. (This includes but is probably not limited to: ammo, armoured vehicles, aircraft, small arms, other conventional weaponry, etc.)

Basically, after years of the German government fucking up in leading their people, here comes an Austrian fellow named Hitler who had great ideas to solve these problems and managed to do it. To add to that, Hitler was great at unifying the Germans back under one banner.

So is it at all surprising that if he had slightly different ideals regarding the Jews and minorities thing, that anyone would vote for him?
I don't think so. If it wasn't for the genocide and (the often "unjust") discrimination towards minorities, I'd vote for Hitler.

Even then, there have been cases of German minorities in Poland being heavily discriminated against. However, I myself am holding up a [Citation required] sign on this last one.
User avatar #301 - beatmasterz (05/21/2015) [-]
Yeah dude I know all those things. Thing is though, everyone has good and bad sides and usually the good outweigh the bad but not in this case. No sir. Yes the weimar republic failed horribly due to a shitty government and the stock crash in america fucked up the dawes plan.

The tactics hitler used was to take advantage of poor and starving and angry people. Instead of telling people the lame truth, he instead fed off the unified hate the people had and he created a common enemy. Yeah he was a good public speaker but leadership requries more than that. Populistic strategies like that only work when people are unhappy and prone to manipulation so I don't think it's that impressive. To lead people who are happy and critical about their surroundings, that is very impressive.

Honestly, I've caught myself more than once comparing the "red pill" movement with nazi tactics. They both justify all the loathing and negative feelings of the people and breed a common enemy (jews/women).

See where I'm getting at?
#313 - anon (05/21/2015) [-]
Pretty sure people are saying they'd vote for Hitler minus the genocide part. Nobody here is agreeing with genocide.
#107 - wellhungmonkey (05/21/2015) [-]
Look, i'm an orthodox Jew and I can recognize why people would vote for him. He was great towards the Jews, evil, but still "great" if you know what I mean . While he was Fuhrer he temporarily fixed Germany economy wise and was a brilliant tactician. The only thing that history holds against him was that he was, aside from being the Napoleon of Germany, a genocidal leader who actually went forward with his plan of destroying his scapegoats the Jews . Heck, the scariest part about him was that, take away his vocal Jew hatred during his campaign, and any country in a bind would want him without knowing what he'd do to whatever amount of people he had killed, whether it's 2 million or 6 .
User avatar #126 - thesovereigngrave (05/21/2015) [-]
I have to disagree with you when it comes to him being a brilliant tactician and the Napoleon of Germany, simply because he fucked up the military royally in some areas. Eventually everything had to come by him, despite him not being the most knowledgeable about military matters and he didn't always listen to his subordinates. Not to mention he had the military set up in such a way that they were often times competing amongst each other instead of working together as a cohesive whole. There are people much more knowledgeable about it then I am, so I hope one of them comes by to give you some more information/examples, because when it came to the military Hitler definitely wasn't the best.
#350 - wellhungmonkey (05/22/2015) [-]
I see. Right, I forgot some of the most successful German missions were from his generals. Regardless, my point is the same. He was still a "great" leader in many ways, just had a few chips in his shoulder that some people couldn't ignore. Also, you're right, my Napoleon reference is misplaced. I merely was trying to draw a parallel to how Napoleon brought France great victory and ushered in a period of great prosperity, similar to Hitlers much shorter lived endeavor.
User avatar #359 - thesovereigngrave (05/22/2015) [-]
Fair enough, I agree with on those points. It was just the military part I disagreed with.
User avatar #97 - mexicanfood (05/21/2015) [-]
if you take out all the nazi war crimes he allowed, it can be argued he was quite possibly the greatest statesman and leader the world has ever seen
User avatar #101 - Ruspanic (05/21/2015) [-]
See, the Nazi war crimes are kind of a big deal. And "allowed" is a bit too passive, don't you think? It's not as if he had nothing to do with them.

Also, fascism is bad.
User avatar #102 - mexicanfood (05/21/2015) [-]
You're not getting it, I'm saying IF and I mean IF you decided to, in an objective manner, take out all the bad things Hitler did, he was quite possibly the bests taesman in human history.

No shit the Nazi stuff makes him horrible and I never said anything about facism
User avatar #103 - Ruspanic (05/21/2015) [-]
I meant that if you took out all the war crimes and atrocities, Hitler would still be a fascist.
User avatar #247 - hydraetis (05/21/2015) [-]
Fun fact: Hitler being fascist is one of the main reasons he was able to do what he did. You can't make major changes in a country without having total power over said country.

If you have a bad leader, a democratic-based system is best.
If you have a good leader, an authoritarian system is best.
User avatar #248 - Ruspanic (05/21/2015) [-]
The system you have should not depend on whether your leader is good or bad. A leader is just another person. He has no right to exercise his will above everyone else. Leaders must serve the people, implement their will, and be accountable to them. All totalitarian systems are illegitimate, no matter how effective they are.
User avatar #254 - hydraetis (05/21/2015) [-]
And what if the leader is pushing forward something that will really help the country but the opposition won't let them do it for the sake of being the opposition? It happened in Canada for a time where the opposition was too busy shooting down everything that the party in power was putting forward, and trying to get them out of power so that they could take the helm themselves. That went on for 4-6 years.

And besides, all the power in the country lies with the military, so as long as the military is on the side of the people there's no issue with a totalitarian government.
User avatar #264 - Ruspanic (05/21/2015) [-]
Sure, if you have opposition then it's harder to get things done. That's just something you have to live with in a democracy, or else seek ways to alleviate the problem without tearing down the system. I'd rather live in a system where power-hungry, self-interested politicians can be held accountable, and voted out or recalled when necessary.

The military of a country is generally under the government's control.
User avatar #105 - mexicanfood (05/21/2015) [-]
I'm a firm believer that a degree of fascism is required to run a country successfully, thats just my opinion though, I may be wrong but whatever
#148 - anon (05/21/2015) [-]
You are correct. Fascism, like most ideologies has degrees. Fascism isn't necessarily racial purity. It's the effort to achieve and maintain A purity. Grammar Fascism for example, with a decent degree of it, would see people saying things like, "That was hilarious!" instead of "LOL". Social Fascism to a degree would see people who stir the shit pot on purpose to achieve some sort of personal gain, told off for it and stripped of all respect in the community. Fascism should not be practiced shallowly or in haste. It should always be careful, methodical and with a healthy dose of reality. Humans have the capability of doing great things, those who would do great dark things bring others down and should be barred from doing so.
User avatar #201 - rockamekishiko (05/21/2015) [-]
Fascism: " a form of reactionary authoritarian nationalism"
authoritarian rule
User avatar #77 - Mr Ronok (05/21/2015) [-]
you are aware that Hitler was actually a really good leader right?. he was in power for 5-6 years before world war 2 broke out and was rated as one of the best world leaders for his time
#300 - presidentsloth (05/21/2015) [-]
He was a "good" leader because he borrowed money that he never gave back and he dispossessed property from jews and his enemies. This gave him a few good years but he had to conquer countries so germany wouldnt go broke.
User avatar #205 - beatmasterz (05/21/2015) [-]
That's absolute bullshit. Like anon said, they WERE A FASCIST REGIME. Good leader my ass. He ruled through fear and intimidation.
User avatar #356 - schnizel (05/22/2015) [-]
They were not fasticst, but national socialists. And it was not north Korea, only the criminals and the sick feared the wrath of the righteous.
User avatar #362 - beatmasterz (05/22/2015) [-]
fuck off schnizel
#363 - schnizel (05/22/2015) [-]
No.
#153 - anon (05/21/2015) [-]
He is actually right. This is going too far, seeing as most commenting haven't exactly qualified for judging the Third Reich on its merits.
They developed a medical approach to policy, in which only the clean and healthy would survive. They experimented on children, ruined universities, destroyed decades of art and imprisoned lots of good men.
You have no idea what you are talking about when you're saying he was well-ranked. If you serve the short-time wishes of a nasty, barbaric crowd, you will get good ratings too.
#112 - sylaz (05/21/2015) [-]
You should really read up on your history.
Cause Hitler was by no means a good leader.
The only reason for him running the country those 6 years before WW2.
Was owed to propogangda and his brown shirts(SA) which crushed all opposition.
Not to mention a whole fuckload of Germans were under the impression that they were stabbed in the back, by the Weimar Republic(The successor to the German Empire). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_myth
#136 - docbraun (05/21/2015) [-]
Took a country that was devastated from WW1 and paying for all of it. Turned it into a mighty super-power that scared the shit out of the rest of Europe (including those who ended up defeating him). That right there deserves respect.
#169 - sylaz (05/21/2015) [-]
He dind't pay at all, he just refused to pay. And seeing as both Britian and France had no way of enforcing it, as they lacked manpower to do so. They just overlooked it.
Also Germany has ALWAYS been a super power, so you can't credit Hilter with that fact. If you don't believe me, look up the Holy Roman Empire.

The only thing Hilter deserves respect for is his abillity for making speechs and his Handwriting.
#170 - docbraun (05/21/2015) [-]
Of course he refused to pay, he needed to rebuild his country. And no, Germany hasn't always been a super power. U clearly missed the whole part where I said "devastated from WW1". They didn't lose a football match and find themselves morally devastated. Their infrastructure was destroyed, their economy was destroyed, they had no army, etc. Read about the Weimar Republic and the consequences of WW1 for Germany.
#210 - sylaz (05/21/2015) [-]
It's ironic, how you reference the Weimar Republic, but yet still state that Hitler had to rebuild the country. As the Weimar Republic had already done a ton of work, by the time Hitler had taken office in 1933.
Germany has always been a super power, seeing as they were one of the biggest countries in EU and had a bigger man power pool then the British. Just because they were defeated in WW1 dind't make them any less of a superpower.
Their infracstructure wasn't destroyed, infact most of it were still perfectly working.
Hyper infalation, just makes everything shit.
Also they had a army, called the Reichswehr with 115.000 men.
Maybe you take your own advice and read up on exactly those things


#341 - docbraun (05/22/2015) [-]
Dude, the Weimar Republic sucked. Obviously I'm simplifying and generalizing. Glad we mostly agree on the shit economy.

Saying that they had an army bc they had like 100K infantrymen is like saying u're going armed into the ghetto bc u carry a pocket knife. The German army had over 700K ppl before WW1 and the peace treaty just didn't allow them to have any more than what u mention. They didn't even have tanks or an air force. Meanwhile, the French and British did have their full-sized and fully-equipped armies. In the modern world, Brazil and Pakistan have some of the largest populations in the world. Would u consider those to be super powers?
User avatar #73 - pedokuma (05/21/2015) [-]
if he did not start WWII, all the anti-jew propaganda, aryan superiority, etc. he'd be considered as a prominent politician/head of state in the 40's.

Not saying he's a good person, he did a lot of atrocious shit, but that doesn't make him pure evil or something, nor does it mean he always had twisted views ever since
User avatar #124 - beatmasterz (05/21/2015) [-]
yeah and if you take lasagna and subtract all the dough and sauce you have ground beef.
User avatar #357 - pedokuma (05/22/2015) [-]
and while lasagna is terrible, ground beef is alright
User avatar #361 - beatmasterz (05/22/2015) [-]
nigga that's just your opinion
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