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#44 - This one hit me hard. I had 2 long term relationships (I guess…  [+] (1 new reply) 08/31/2015 on Good night, USA +9
#48 - rundas (08/31/2015) [-]
Dang man, that sucks. Know how you feel, well, not the gf thing >tfw seeing people so happy together does make me a bit sad. Hope you feel better m8
#6 - It's from the Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode "Hush". 07/24/2015 on Waiting +10
#8 - Comment deleted 07/22/2015 on (untitled) 0
#81 - How am I taking 5:17 out of context? If Jesus says that he's h…  [+] (3 new replies) 07/17/2015 on (untitled) +11
#176 - midkupficker (07/17/2015) [-]
What he means by "you've taken it out of context" is "the theology of my denomination rejects it".

User avatar #160 - kalima (07/17/2015) [-]
You've made me giggle.
#87 - anon (07/17/2015) [-]
Neat!
#87 - Looks interesting. I'll check it out when my summer class ends.  [+] (1 new reply) 07/17/2015 on History 0
#107 - ukobarrywewa (07/17/2015) [-]
**ukobarrywewa used "*roll picture*"**
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#72 - 5:17 "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the …  [+] (6 new replies) 07/17/2015 on (untitled) +8
User avatar #194 - wrpen (07/17/2015) [-]
The vast majority of old testament commands were Jewish law code, not religious command. Remember that they very nearly had an empire running before the Romans came in, so the only difference between the old testament and Justinian's or Hammurabi's is the direct control by dominant religious leaders. Not only that, but there had to be tact in Jesus' phrasing to get Christianity to spread as far as it has. If he outright alienated the entire old testament, or cherry-picked a few certain rules from it, he would have pissed off the majority of the population that enjoyed those rules, like the lower nobles, and all of Christ's teachings would've been slandered and made out to be the word of the Devil.

As for the OP, in reality, the rapist was forced to pay reparations to the family as well as be married to the woman that he had raped, thus making her a wife and, inevitably, a mother (a fairly high life goal for most women at the time). It also forced the rapist to care for the woman as a wife, up to and including raising her own social status if they weren't equal already.
#76 - anon (07/17/2015) [-]
You're taking it out of context. The old laws still apply until they are fulfilled. They are fulfilled by Jesus' death. This is how liberals twist the bible to bash Christianity. I'm not a Christian, but this kind of bullshit pisses me off. It's like taking Psalms 14:1 The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good" and putting the line “There is no God.” on something as proof that the Bible is atheist.

If you are really interested, Google how Matthew 5:17 explains the fulfillment of the new testament covenant. It's easy to find if you want a step by step IN CONTEXT answer. I'm not writing a new essay here when there are plenty at your finger tips. If you just want to troll and "prove" me wrong and that Christianity is bullshit then don't waste your time. I'm not interested in arguing with someone who isn't willing to change their opinions with new information. I' m not interested in banging my heard against the wall so I won't reply.
User avatar #81 - badgerclan (07/17/2015) [-]
How am I taking 5:17 out of context? If Jesus says that he's here to end the old laws through completing the contract why does he spend the remaining 3 verses of chapter 5 explaining that the laws will never change? The fulfilling he's talking about in 5:17 is referring to the prophecies ("the Prophets"), otherwise he's contradicting himself.

As for your second paragraph, what the fuck are you talking about? I replied to an argument to provide the next 2 verses to a dispute in interpretation of one verse and you're accusing me of trying to prove that Christianity is bullshit and not being willing to change my opinions with new information. There is no logical connection between these events.
#176 - midkupficker (07/17/2015) [-]
What he means by "you've taken it out of context" is "the theology of my denomination rejects it".

User avatar #160 - kalima (07/17/2015) [-]
You've made me giggle.
#87 - anon (07/17/2015) [-]
Neat!
#80 - Sources for the Kepler's laws and calculus stuff? I was under …  [+] (8 new replies) 07/17/2015 on History +4
#101 - castlelord (07/17/2015) [-]
I see some issues here, the first is that Cosmos (Both old and new) is to be quite honest not in any way a good source on history as the shows have been found guilty of twisting points and promoting false facts (Like the first series talk about the library)

www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/201abj/carl_sagans_cosmos_and_his_history/

www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/200uo6/how_accurate_is_cosmos_story_of_giordano_bruno/

I should also mention that the "Great" Library of Alexandria was destroyed more than once as different changes in the world (such as the roman conquest of Egypt) directly impacted the library which in many ways was more of a book collection for the higher Elite greeks living in Egypt.

www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/tc0eo/historical_muslims_and_scienceknowledge_can/c4lebo8

Also, Spherical earth theory and its thoughts was not limited to Alexandria, sure the famous Eratosthenes made the now famous measurements, but people like Posidonius did the exact same thing at a later stage. Meaning the though was never lost.

It had also been surpassed as a beacon of research by about 47BC as other libraries grew past it. (Again, mostly because the library was Greek and made to cater to the greek elite of Egypt and other city states/ kingdoms)

www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1uxvuv/which_explorers_could_have_visited_the_library_of/cemsczn

On the steam engine I'd say it was never really lost through the library burning down as it was never constructed from what I can see. The Aeolipile also has the problem of little to no torque making it useless for heavy tasks.
It's also important to note that the fact that we know of it tells us it was never really lost.

Another important point here would be that Romans and Greeks most likely never saw any need for the Aeolipile or the other engineering marvels they created.
This Reddit thread further discusses my point.
www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/119wcv/why_didnt_we_get_an_industrial_revolution_during/

Once again, I'll go back to what I said in my link: The library was important to some when the Greeks were the kings of Egypt as they used it to gather information for their personal gains, but this state of being was not sturdy and the library quickly declined over the years when Egypt entered its rocky story with Rome. One should also remember that the greeks and in turn their city states had their own libraries that contained everything of importance to them as travelling to a place like Egypt would take about a week.

It's also important to note here that the library was divided into two parts (Outer area and royal library) which in turn meant that most people would only get to see the outer library unless they had a voucher from a respected scholar or thinker.

I'll finally at the end here mention that advances in science and other subjects often comes about from cumulative work, I.E good steam engines requires extensive past work and discoveries within metallurgy and mathematics. The people of the ancient world lacked a lot of technology needed to get everything going at the time and good parts of it came from well beyond the library and Europe (Such as Gunpowder from China)

Tl:dr: Cosmos is not a good source, the library's importance is not set in stone, round earth theories existed a lot of places, They had no sue for steam, advances require extensive previous knowledge.
#172 - xxmemosxx (07/17/2015) [-]
Sorry but you asked for reputable sources but then you reply with reddit pages... wtf man?
#175 - castlelord (07/17/2015) [-]
What is wrong with Reddit sources?

After all, I only posted sources from /r/Askhistorians, the strictest subreddit on the site. Its pretty hard to spread false information on such a site when 90% of all the people answering have History degrees or years spent researching their interests.

Please, read their rules page and tell me how the links I gave are bad sources.
www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/wiki/rules

If you want to learn more beyond that, their FAQ page is filled with great answers to the most frequently asked questions, such as their bit on the library of alexandria.
FAQ:
www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/wiki/faq

Library of alexandria:
www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/wiki/antiquity#wiki_library_of_alexandria

The mods on there delete everything that fails to meet their standards, the score of a comment matters nothing if it fails to answer correctly or lacks credible sources, they have one goal and that is to spread correct information. Have a look at the bottom of this thread to see how harshly they remove answers.
www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/3assdu/who_was_the_last_potus_to_be_quoted_saying_the/

Feel free to ask further questions.
#166 - anon (07/17/2015) [-]
Dude, youre awesome.
User avatar #83 - lennybrown (07/17/2015) [-]
you might like this its a movie made a few years back about the library.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agora_ (film)
User avatar #85 - lennybrown (07/17/2015) [-]
Sorry bad link, copy all the link including the (film) bit and paste.
User avatar #87 - badgerclan (07/17/2015) [-]
Looks interesting. I'll check it out when my summer class ends.
#107 - ukobarrywewa (07/17/2015) [-]
**ukobarrywewa used "*roll picture*"**
**ukobarrywewa rolled image** MFW I find a bunch of fellow history fans on an internet humor site
#44 - There's evidence that the scientists at the library were close…  [+] (10 new replies) 07/16/2015 on History +25
#45 - castlelord (07/16/2015) [-]
Do you have any reputable sources on that?

The general consensus among Historians is that nothing of permanent value was lost as every single book in the library most likely existed elsewhere in the ancient world in a copied or translated form.

I've written about it all before here:
/Imagine+the+scent/funny-pictures/5358411/36#36
User avatar #80 - badgerclan (07/17/2015) [-]
Sources for the Kepler's laws and calculus stuff? I was under the impression that those things were said in Cosmos (the original series) but I just rewatched the parts that talk about the library and they weren't in there. I don't remember where I saw those so take it with a big grain of salt.

Sources for the speculation that we would be living on other planets by now? That came from me, based on what was known and being researched at the library (I can source Cosmos for that) and the history of the last 600 years, when much of the knowledge in the library was rediscovered, came into wide acceptance, and human achievement advanced in ways that have never been seen before. Was all of that directly due to the knowledge of the library? Of course not, but not having to rediscover everything 1000 years later would have been immensely helpful. If the astronomical knowledge of Alexandria (spherical Earth, the planets being other worlds and orbiting the Sun, stars being very far away) stayed known then we wouldn't have wasted so much time having to rediscover it. The Americas could have been discovered sooner knowing that. Also steam powered machinery had been constructed (although nothing with worthwhile applications was made yet) before the library was destroyed. If that line of research had continued, do you think it would have taken until 1698 to have steam engines? The industrial revolution could have started centuries earlier. Just the fact that so much science was being done there means that it would have stayed useful for as long as it was in operation.

Some notes on what you said in your linked comment:

You say that the library burned under Julius Cesar, and the fact that Rome kept expanding meant that the knowledge was widespread and/or unimportant. There are several problems with this. The first is that the library burned for the first time under Cesar, but wasn't destroyed. It was instead rebuilt and was a major research center for centuries after. Rome was already in a period of expansion through conquest at the time of that fire, and a library at one end of the empire burning doesn't stop the economic prosperity that comes from conquering places hundreds of miles away. It is true that much of the information in the library came from other places, mostly from Greece, and that these places had their own thinkers. The benefit of the library of Alexandria is that so much information is concentrated in one place. It's much easier to catalog and expand on knowledge when you don't have to travel to a dozen libraries in all parts of an empire to get the base knowledge.

Tl;dr the benefit of the library surviving isn't limited to whatever knowledge they had at the point when it was historically destroyed. An additional 1500 years or so of science from a well equipped research institute, in addition to the survival of the knowledge and scholastic tradition of 3 other advanced civilizations as I said in my last comment would certainly have drastically increased how far along humanity could have advanced.
#101 - castlelord (07/17/2015) [-]
I see some issues here, the first is that Cosmos (Both old and new) is to be quite honest not in any way a good source on history as the shows have been found guilty of twisting points and promoting false facts (Like the first series talk about the library)

www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/201abj/carl_sagans_cosmos_and_his_history/

www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/200uo6/how_accurate_is_cosmos_story_of_giordano_bruno/

I should also mention that the "Great" Library of Alexandria was destroyed more than once as different changes in the world (such as the roman conquest of Egypt) directly impacted the library which in many ways was more of a book collection for the higher Elite greeks living in Egypt.

www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/tc0eo/historical_muslims_and_scienceknowledge_can/c4lebo8

Also, Spherical earth theory and its thoughts was not limited to Alexandria, sure the famous Eratosthenes made the now famous measurements, but people like Posidonius did the exact same thing at a later stage. Meaning the though was never lost.

It had also been surpassed as a beacon of research by about 47BC as other libraries grew past it. (Again, mostly because the library was Greek and made to cater to the greek elite of Egypt and other city states/ kingdoms)

www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1uxvuv/which_explorers_could_have_visited_the_library_of/cemsczn

On the steam engine I'd say it was never really lost through the library burning down as it was never constructed from what I can see. The Aeolipile also has the problem of little to no torque making it useless for heavy tasks.
It's also important to note that the fact that we know of it tells us it was never really lost.

Another important point here would be that Romans and Greeks most likely never saw any need for the Aeolipile or the other engineering marvels they created.
This Reddit thread further discusses my point.
www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/119wcv/why_didnt_we_get_an_industrial_revolution_during/

Once again, I'll go back to what I said in my link: The library was important to some when the Greeks were the kings of Egypt as they used it to gather information for their personal gains, but this state of being was not sturdy and the library quickly declined over the years when Egypt entered its rocky story with Rome. One should also remember that the greeks and in turn their city states had their own libraries that contained everything of importance to them as travelling to a place like Egypt would take about a week.

It's also important to note here that the library was divided into two parts (Outer area and royal library) which in turn meant that most people would only get to see the outer library unless they had a voucher from a respected scholar or thinker.

I'll finally at the end here mention that advances in science and other subjects often comes about from cumulative work, I.E good steam engines requires extensive past work and discoveries within metallurgy and mathematics. The people of the ancient world lacked a lot of technology needed to get everything going at the time and good parts of it came from well beyond the library and Europe (Such as Gunpowder from China)

Tl:dr: Cosmos is not a good source, the library's importance is not set in stone, round earth theories existed a lot of places, They had no sue for steam, advances require extensive previous knowledge.
#172 - xxmemosxx (07/17/2015) [-]
Sorry but you asked for reputable sources but then you reply with reddit pages... wtf man?
#175 - castlelord (07/17/2015) [-]
What is wrong with Reddit sources?

After all, I only posted sources from /r/Askhistorians, the strictest subreddit on the site. Its pretty hard to spread false information on such a site when 90% of all the people answering have History degrees or years spent researching their interests.

Please, read their rules page and tell me how the links I gave are bad sources.
www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/wiki/rules

If you want to learn more beyond that, their FAQ page is filled with great answers to the most frequently asked questions, such as their bit on the library of alexandria.
FAQ:
www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/wiki/faq

Library of alexandria:
www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/wiki/antiquity#wiki_library_of_alexandria

The mods on there delete everything that fails to meet their standards, the score of a comment matters nothing if it fails to answer correctly or lacks credible sources, they have one goal and that is to spread correct information. Have a look at the bottom of this thread to see how harshly they remove answers.
www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/3assdu/who_was_the_last_potus_to_be_quoted_saying_the/

Feel free to ask further questions.
#166 - anon (07/17/2015) [-]
Dude, youre awesome.
User avatar #83 - lennybrown (07/17/2015) [-]
you might like this its a movie made a few years back about the library.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agora_ (film)
User avatar #85 - lennybrown (07/17/2015) [-]
Sorry bad link, copy all the link including the (film) bit and paste.
User avatar #87 - badgerclan (07/17/2015) [-]
Looks interesting. I'll check it out when my summer class ends.
#107 - ukobarrywewa (07/17/2015) [-]
**ukobarrywewa used "*roll picture*"**
**ukobarrywewa rolled image** MFW I find a bunch of fellow history fans on an internet humor site
#13 - There was no need to; you already had. 06/30/2015 on This is true in many ways 0
#11 - I posted something along those lines the last time I saw this …  [+] (2 new replies) 06/30/2015 on This is true in many ways +1
User avatar #12 - Awesomenessniss (06/30/2015) [-]
Looks like you were afraid to try again.
User avatar #13 - badgerclan (06/30/2015) [-]
There was no need to; you already had.

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