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#9 - Great response, however she didn't even address the actual que…  [+] (21 replies) 09/27/2016 on SJW Muslim Girl Get's REKT'D +71
#131 - raunchyftw (09/28/2016) [-]
Unpopular opinion:

We are overpopulated already and the growth rate is just slowly decreasing. Somebody should start a mass genocide.
#140 - anon (09/28/2016) [-]
I propose genocide of all people who respond with anime girls.

I volunteer to take the reins as this fourth reich's new Hitler
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#129 - freestyleristaken (09/28/2016) [-]
That was a legit question, though she didn't have to say the bs before that.
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#123 - zombifier (09/28/2016) [-]
I don't know why people only focus on ISIS now. There are 82 more recognized groups that number around 300 million.
Why only focus on 1 group? What about the rest?
#112 - anon (09/28/2016) [-]
Education, the one step to ideological annihilation, Otherwose it is impossible.
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#82 - ieatbengay (09/28/2016) [-]
rinse and repeat my nigga
#56 - anon (09/28/2016) [-]
For the US?
A couple nukes were pretty effective against their last suicide soldiers.
Honor means nothing when everything you know is vaporized.
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#48 - clannadqs (09/28/2016) [-]
I've gone from one of the most liberal humans I've been around to being incredibly racist and right winged in a matter of years all due to recent events. I used to be so "open minded" about matters, but everything I stood for I threw out the door. There is just no point in keeping that facade going on any more. I'm just getting tired of everyone feeling like they should be entitled to everything just because they are human. If the majority, or even 30%, of your ideology commits atrocious acts I would have no regrets just wiping it off the face of the Earth. Why are we such fucking pussies that we allow this shit to go on? It hurts the progress of mankind and puts us all at risk. For what? Just because we want other humans to feel they are free and equal? Fuck that. They weren't born Muslim. They chose that route. Why should we continually allow such a massive hoax as Islam spread and bring the death of millions every year for decades? Just because we should treat humans equally? I don't know about you guys, but if something as stupid as a religion like Islam puts a huge amount of humans at risk that are innocent, I could care fucking less about what happens to any of them. Once more, they chose that ideology so man up and accept the repercussions for its actions/systems. And don't bring in the fact that most are peaceful. That is a load of utter bullshit. Being in the military I hear of stories all of the time about how shitty the people are over there (came in too late to deploy with my unit. Second rotation to the Stan got called off). They legit don't give a shit about Americans or the west and once more most don't give a shit about the terrorists in the region. There are THOUSANDS of videos out there pointing this out. Ranging from GoPro footage from thousands of soldiers, documentaries, movies, etc. They literally don't give a shit. If they honestly cared about bringing peace to the world and wanted to show how helpful and loving they are they would take matters into their own hands. Guess what? They fucking don't. Many of the rich nations actually have ties to funding terrorist organizations in the middle east such as Saudi Arabia. The majority of them are utter pieces of shit. Sorry if this offended you, but it's my trigger. Kind of tired of seeing millions die every year due to this retarded backwards ideology that has no factual basis in our reality just because we're too SJW to do anything about it. Trump showed some amazing hope for me when he mentioned just killing their family as well. It's honestly the best thing I've heard in years. These families know what their kids are doing. Hold them to the same standard. Their actions lead to the possible death of innocents. Who fucking cares if they die? Hell, a good ole 1940 carpet bombing would solve issues as well. Literally every time a terrorist is tied back to a specific city in the Middle East (relations to teachers there, ties with groups, family, vacation to there, etc) just carpet bomb the entire city for a few days and see how fast shit like this stops.
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#170 - NinjaHermit (09/28/2016) [-]
So, you're advocating warcrimes and religious genocide? ...Blowing cities off the map, and massacring men, women, and children would kinda, y'know, make us terrorists, too.

> just carpet bomb the entire city for a few days and see how fast shit like this stops
No. Nothing unities a people quicker than a foreign invader. Anti-Western sentiments would rapidly swell, and the number of radicals would increase exponentially.
Don't people realize the number of radicals has only increased since Bush, Cheney, and Co. started this whole "war on terror"?

Unfortunately, you can't simply bomb terrorism out of existence. This isn't the type of war that one can win through simple force of arms.

> Many of the rich nations actually have ties to funding terrorist organizations in the middle east such as Saudi Arabia
You're right about this. I cannot claim a solution to the ideological disputes between Islam and the West. However, it would go a considerable way toward deescalating the military conflicts if the U.S. (and others) would actually stop funding and arming the very groups they're purportedly fighting against... unfortunately, it probably won't happen. War is profitable for the elite... Never mind that the Saudis are currently bombing hospitals and orphanages in Yemen, we want their money and oil. It's repugnant.
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#182 - clannadqs (09/28/2016) [-]
Already knew this would be an argument from someone who thinks in hypothetical situations. I honestly think you should work on your reading comprehension because I highlighted what you are trying to argue right now. They are already united. Sure a few villages here and there don't like what radicals are doing, but that's a minority. We're not talking about westernized Muslims here. We're talking about those that actually live in these nations. As I said numerous times, they don't give a shit about the radicals being around them. They would EASILY side with the radicals if it was a nation other than the US involved over there. Hell, they do it now even with the US involved I'm saying if some shitty ass military was involved over there the people wouldn't be as scared to get involved. The only reason the majority of them keep their distance from radicals is because of US involvement, not due to the lack of it. . If they actually cared they would try to fight them themselves, but this doesn't happen and when it does it's just another group that contains radicals with other views that will always come back and bite the US in the ass. These people aren't humans like you know it. Sorry you live in a bubble where your "muslim" buddies converted at 19 years old and have lived in the States their entire life. These people CONSTANTLY give positions of US troops away, stab US troops in the back, help radicals out with escaping capture, etc. There are hundreds to thousands of tunnels dug around Afghanistan around villages for the sole reason of escaping from invading forces. Guess who dug them.

What I'm getting at is the fact that they already don't condemn radicals. They just aren't involved in direct conflict. This doesn't mean they aren't pieces of shit and still breed future generations of radicals. They do and will continually do this until we take a stand against it or they come to their sense (which won't happen for well over 100-200 years). Bro, Afghan police commanders would literally inject heroin before going on patrols, lead US troops into ambushes, etc. It's not humans like you know it in your white secluded nation that pumps billions to trillions into security to protect you from the harsh realities of the outside world. These people will continually do nothing about radicals in their nation and it's already proven 20-35% of all Muslims are radicals. The other 50-80% don't give a shit about them. It's a horrible combination. Hell, go look at the HUNDREDS of videos of "moderate" muslims stoning females to death just for being involved with US troops. Hell, a video just came out of the "moderate" muslims in Syria yelling at US special forces to leave their nation because they don't want the white devil in their country. They almost all hate the west, just a few actually take action.

With all of this in mind, why would you oppose just carpet bombing problematic areas? You think doing this would increase their numbers? So fucking what? What are they going to do with that random farmer that has a barely functioning AK handed down by his father? They are already trying to get into western nations and you are seeing how little they are able to achieve this especially with our security being upped recently. The only attacks that have gone through in the US are from people that already lived here. Hell, they should just add in torturing the fuck out of someone who is caught alive committing an act of terror like the recent fucktard. Wiping out problematic areas will probably bring more radicals out and into action, but who fucking cares? It would be like if you put 1000 ants in a huge Tupperware container and stirred them up by killing 100 of them. What are they going to do? Somehow get out of that container and attack you? No, they will just be agitated in their own little shitty container.
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#187 - NinjaHermit (19 hours ago) [-]
>Already knew this would be an argument
Eh. Don't think of it as an argument. I'm not angry. Are you angry?

Well, anyway, maybe "united" was the wrong word, on my part. For sure, there are many non-radicals in the Middle East that do indirectly (or sometimes directly) support the radical groups. A lot of people dislike/hate Western nations, not just in the Middle East, there's no denying that. I never contradicted you there.
I was just stating that all our efforts thus far have only increased the number of radicals, and escalating the war will almost definitely cause an even greater surge of radicalism/anti-West sentiments than there already is. Though, you apparently don't see that as an issue, hah... But do want to always be carpet bombing someone new every week? Because there'll always be radicals that hate you and me for one reason or another, of course, but this warhawk-ish way of thinking only serves to consistently multiply their numbers and fuel their rage at us.

>With all of this in mind, why would you oppose just carpet bombing problematic areas?
It's more than just the strong likelihood of increasing the numbers of radicals... Carpet bombing cities is war-crime, under the Geneva Convention. We would be no better than the people we're slaughtering.
Also, take a look at history, though. During the "Secret War", which was a part of the Laotian Civil War and the Vietnam War, the U.S. bombed the ever loving shit out of Laos between 64'-73'. For all the good it did us, we dropped roughly 260 million cluster bombs – about 2 million tons of munitions – on Laos over the course of 500,000+ bombing missions; that's a more ordinance than the entirety of WWII. We still lost the war, communism is still a thing, and now there's tens of millions of undetonated bombs littered throughout the country, and people are still being killed by them.

To be clear, though, lest you misinterpret me, some force is necessary. The likes of ISIS, al-Queda, etc. aren't the type of enemies you can reason with, as you surely know. We (that is, the civilized world) absolutely need to defend ourselves from them.
However, I hate blind hatred (which exists on both sides), and policies and ideologies that only serve to escalate a conflict without doing anything to end it. If the US was serious about stopping the spread of radical Islam, we wouldn't be training "moderate" rebels (who then turn around and pledge themselves to al-Nusra) or making billion dollar weapon deals with Saudi Arabia.

>Sorry you live in a bubble where your "muslim" buddies converted at 19 years old and have lived in the States their entire life.
I can't really say that I have any Muslims "buddies". However, my town did take in refugees, some time ago. It has yet to implode or convert to Sharia...

>your white secluded nation
Bruh, I'm a broke-ass cracker, from a broke-ass family. For most of my life, I've lived in poorer Black/Hispanic neighborhoods.

>These people aren't humans like you know it
I think this is probably the crux our differing outlooks. I can hate the beliefs of radical Islam without hating Muslims themselves. No matter their beliefs, Muslims are still human. They love, laugh, feel, and bleed just like me and you.
Whereas, in your case, it's much easier to justify murder and torture if you've already dehumanized them. You do realize your attitude and support of wiping them out is more or less the same as the people you're so eager to condemn, yes?
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#76 - camzore (09/28/2016) [-]
put some paragraphs in there next time my man, its hard as fuck to read like that
#44 - anon (09/28/2016) [-]
educating people.

...which is kinda hard lol. but it's possible, i guess.

people used to believe zeus, but hardly anyone does nowadays. so obviously, it's definitely possible to destroy ideologies.
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#84 - Funnel (09/28/2016) [-]
People don't believe in Zeus anymore because the christians killed those who refused to convert to christianity..
#115 - anon (09/28/2016) [-]
That's not it. They had all their gods on a tall mountain and everything defied modern understanding on biology. It's hard to get someone to believe it was the truth.
#17 - anon (09/28/2016) [-]
Not letting those who share that ideology into your country in the millions would probably help.
#14 - justtocomment (09/28/2016) [-]
Her point is you have to fight this group as we've fought similar groups throughout history.
Socialist groups have arrived since the Nazis. Japanese national pride is still a thing.
You don't have to fight an ideology because the vast majority of people of this ideology are peaceful and normal humans. What you're fighting is violent extremists and their forces - people who have made the decision to take up arms for the cause.
You can use propoganda and community relief efforts (which we do, with varied degrees of success), but ultimately you need to topple their group and end their campaign - regardless of what ideology they follow.
#13 - imona (09/27/2016) [-]
she didn't address the question as it had nothing to do with the debate, the reason why they were there, and chose to lecture an ignorant woman on her ways..

as far as i could tell...
#11 - anon (09/27/2016) [-]
You fight it by getting those peaceful Muslims on your side.

Radicalism like that can only be snuffed out by their own populace.
#142 - anon (09/28/2016) [-]
Actually both Nazism in Germany, fascism in Italy and Japan ended by bombing and killing them until they changed their ways.

Same can be said for those states which converted to communism after WWII. The threat of being massacred by the Soviet Union did change their willingness to become good communists.

Do study history, and you will be amazed by how often threats of imminent death makes whole nations change their religion.
#55 - anon (09/28/2016) [-]
That was... actually kinda deep, I'm surprised.
#12 - I don't get what the issue is, seems pretty simple to me. Inst…  [+] (1 reply) 03/04/2016 on Language for refugees 0
#24 - anon (03/04/2016) [-]
yeah it's simple but it seems weird to some people and there are quite a few homonyms which make some sentences weird like valta tuntuu valtavalta power feels enormous (though its not really a homonym since the words are valta and valtava

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