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#147 - "When Ahmed was called out of class, he said h…  [+] (1 reply) 09/18/2015 on President's been smeckledorfed 0
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#157 - masanori (09/18/2015) [-]
One of the police officers. That doesn't imply that was the teacher's motivation. It's a totally different situation.

Yes, because you're a bomb technician. I doubt you could identify all or any of the components in there, especially before this happened, and also doubt you could identify an actual explosive element as it could be covered or contained by anything and there wouldn't have to be much of it to do a lot of damage. If I'd shown you that picture out of context you probably would have said "nice briefcase bomb." Look at any mainstream representation of that type of I.E.D. and tell me there's not a strong resemblance.

I am not going to say there is no far right negative reaction against Muslims. There is plenty of misplaced aggression that shouldn't exist being directed at people just minding their own business. That doesn't, however, change the fact that the largest extant terrorist threat to the western world is Muslim terrorism, and trying really hard to ignore that so you seem like a nice guy doesn't change it.

I do not judge people based on their race. I do maintain a realistic but unfortunate perspective and wait to see what kind of person they are before letting my gaurd down, but all the while I treat them like I would treat anyone else. Once I know a Muslim is a moderate or a black person isn't going to rob me or a white person isn't going to kill me for being an atheist and not a Christian, I forget about it entirely. My first instinct is still to associate them with the largest threats they represent in the back of my mind until I can be reasonably sure they're not part of that threat.

This isn't racism, it's realism. People who share racial characteristics probably share a common heritage and possibly a common geographical land of origin which probably means they also share similar values. These are all assumptions, however, and there are exceptions, which is why I don't treat people differently based upon them.

Humans are different, that is a fact people need to stop avoiding and accept. It's okay to be different and pretending our differences don't exist is insulting to humanity and those who are different from you because it implies you won't accept them unless they're like you. However, an unfortunate side-effect of these differences is that sometimes values collide, and many in the Muslim world share a value of anti-westernism. Pretending that threat doesn't exist is just pretentious and dangerous.

I'd have called the police to check on this thing too, not because the kid is brown, but because I'm not a bomb technician and you never know what's going through another person's head, especially a hormonal teenager.
#137 - Fair enough if its protocol, but I still believe it's overreac…  [+] (2 replies) 09/18/2015 on President's been smeckledorfed 0
#174 - anon (09/18/2015) [-]
CNN, race bait. Color me surprised.
#168 - rollfourexplain (09/18/2015) [-]
That quote is kind of out of context though.

Initially it made me think the quote was about his skin color. But I have come to think it could also mean that he was small, like the child he is.

What really makes me think that it was not about race was the general handling of the child. In the end they resolved everything and let him go back, no problem. There were even fewer consequences than other less serious school overreactions.
#135 - maybe, still doesn't justify being prejudice because then what…  [+] (1 reply) 09/18/2015 on President's been smeckledorfed 0
#139 - xgolgothax (09/18/2015) [-]
I think most people would agree that racism is bad, i certainly do. I just don't think that's what happened here.
I think they're playing the race card to garner sympathy and i think the media is loving every minute of it.
And i think Clinton and Obama are wrong for feeding into it.
#132 - not prejudice, not saying everyone in dallas is like that and …  [+] (1 reply) 09/18/2015 on President's been smeckledorfed -1
#133 - xgolgothax (09/18/2015) [-]
Yes, there are bigots everywhere and of all kinds.
#125 - I'm willing to bet a good portion of the people in the city ar…  [+] (6 replies) 09/18/2015 on President's been smeckledorfed 0
#128 - xgolgothax (09/18/2015) [-]
or maybe the entire city is still sensitive about that whole www.nytimes.com/2015/05/04/us/gunmen-killed-after-firing-on-anti-islam-groups-event.html?_r=0 gunmen attacking an anti islam rally.
I mean,, holy shit was everyone wrong there....group provoking muslims....muslims responding exactly like the people stereotyping them wanted them to react.....
#135 - andrewld (09/18/2015) [-]
maybe, still doesn't justify being prejudice because then what? then a muslim is going to see all the islamophobia and is going to become resentful, that's when the cycle continues, your bad experience with a person of a certain group, especially when it was intentionally instigated, doesn't excuse prejudice
#139 - xgolgothax (09/18/2015) [-]
I think most people would agree that racism is bad, i certainly do. I just don't think that's what happened here.
I think they're playing the race card to garner sympathy and i think the media is loving every minute of it.
And i think Clinton and Obama are wrong for feeding into it.
#127 - xgolgothax (09/18/2015) [-]
That kinda sounds like you're the one with the prejudice...
#132 - andrewld (09/18/2015) [-]
not prejudice, not saying everyone in dallas is like that and im not saying all people in dallas should be judged as such, but enough are like that that it's not unreasonable to assume it's what happened. it's the same as if i said that an openly gay jewish guy probably wouldn't enjoy traveling to afghanistan. not saying all people in the country are bad, just that enough people for it to be a problem
#133 - xgolgothax (09/18/2015) [-]
Yes, there are bigots everywhere and of all kinds.
#122 - the kid wasn't arrested though, and it wasn't racially motivated  [+] (7 replies) 09/18/2015 on President's been smeckledorfed -3
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#144 - masanori (09/18/2015) [-]
You seem to be missing the point everyone's making and responding with "yeah but it wasn't racially motivated" when that is exactly what they're showing you; this happens to people of all races for far less than something that does look very similar to a bomb. You're implying that just because he happens to be a certain race no one can be suspicious of him for any other reason, and I'm sorry, but that's fucking stupid. If you were to ignore something like this just to avoid the appearance of racism because he is Muslim, that is in itself racism, and it would also potentially put the school at risk.

The left are just desperate to laud their moral superiority and ability to tolerate others over the "barbaric, bigoted right" by creating racial issues where there aren't any, and everyone swallows the narrative because they don't want to be labelled a bigot. If the teacher had done nothing and it had turned out to be a credible threat, the left would be deriding the "oblivious, inbred hick school teacher who didn't recognize what was obviously a bomb because they're all so stupid."

That clock looked like a fucking bomb. They brought the kid in, questioned him, and let him go. End of story. The left are the only ones making it about him being a Muslim, which if you ask me, makes them the ones promoting segregation and compartmentalization.
#147 - andrewld (09/18/2015) [-]
www.cnn.com/2015/09/16/us/texas-student-ahmed-muslim-clock-bomb/

"When Ahmed was called out of class, he said he was brought into a room with four police officers, one of whom said, "'Yup. That's who I thought it was.'"

But no no, you're right, it wasn't racially motivated at all, im just a stupid libtard finding racism in everything, muslims actually have it going really well in conservative america, all great delusions to help you sleep at night.

also yeah it looks like a bomb, excpet it doesn't have any explosives. you know, the thing that makes a bomb a bomb?
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#157 - masanori (09/18/2015) [-]
One of the police officers. That doesn't imply that was the teacher's motivation. It's a totally different situation.

Yes, because you're a bomb technician. I doubt you could identify all or any of the components in there, especially before this happened, and also doubt you could identify an actual explosive element as it could be covered or contained by anything and there wouldn't have to be much of it to do a lot of damage. If I'd shown you that picture out of context you probably would have said "nice briefcase bomb." Look at any mainstream representation of that type of I.E.D. and tell me there's not a strong resemblance.

I am not going to say there is no far right negative reaction against Muslims. There is plenty of misplaced aggression that shouldn't exist being directed at people just minding their own business. That doesn't, however, change the fact that the largest extant terrorist threat to the western world is Muslim terrorism, and trying really hard to ignore that so you seem like a nice guy doesn't change it.

I do not judge people based on their race. I do maintain a realistic but unfortunate perspective and wait to see what kind of person they are before letting my gaurd down, but all the while I treat them like I would treat anyone else. Once I know a Muslim is a moderate or a black person isn't going to rob me or a white person isn't going to kill me for being an atheist and not a Christian, I forget about it entirely. My first instinct is still to associate them with the largest threats they represent in the back of my mind until I can be reasonably sure they're not part of that threat.

This isn't racism, it's realism. People who share racial characteristics probably share a common heritage and possibly a common geographical land of origin which probably means they also share similar values. These are all assumptions, however, and there are exceptions, which is why I don't treat people differently based upon them.

Humans are different, that is a fact people need to stop avoiding and accept. It's okay to be different and pretending our differences don't exist is insulting to humanity and those who are different from you because it implies you won't accept them unless they're like you. However, an unfortunate side-effect of these differences is that sometimes values collide, and many in the Muslim world share a value of anti-westernism. Pretending that threat doesn't exist is just pretentious and dangerous.

I'd have called the police to check on this thing too, not because the kid is brown, but because I'm not a bomb technician and you never know what's going through another person's head, especially a hormonal teenager.
#124 - xgolgothax (09/18/2015) [-]
The kid that built this clock was released to his parents at the detention center. As I've said in other posts, in my area that was common protocol. If the police were called, you were going with them..no ifs, ands, or buts about it. They didn't want parents creating more of a scene at the school itself. Perhaps thats not the policy in all areas though, i'm not sure about Dallas. I don't think it was an overreaction to remove him from the school to release him to his parents. Now if they had actually pressed charges, then I would have wanted to see some evidence of intent about it being a deliberate hoax.
#137 - andrewld (09/18/2015) [-]
Fair enough if its protocol, but I still believe it's overreacting, and it still doesn't change the fact that it was racially motivated

www.cnn.com/2015/09/16/us/texas-student-ahmed-muslim-clock-bomb/

"When Ahmed was called out of class, he said he was brought into a room with four police officers, one of whom said, "'Yup. That's who I thought it was.'"
#174 - anon (09/18/2015) [-]
CNN, race bait. Color me surprised.
#168 - rollfourexplain (09/18/2015) [-]
That quote is kind of out of context though.

Initially it made me think the quote was about his skin color. But I have come to think it could also mean that he was small, like the child he is.

What really makes me think that it was not about race was the general handling of the child. In the end they resolved everything and let him go back, no problem. There were even fewer consequences than other less serious school overreactions.
#120 - he was also arrested too  [+] (1 reply) 09/18/2015 on President's been smeckledorfed -1
#123 - xgolgothax (09/18/2015) [-]
No charges were ever pressed. He was released to his parents at the detention center. In my area that was common protocol. If the police had to be called, then they took you and either detained your or released you to your parents. This was done to prevent parents from coming to the school itself and causing a scene.
#9 - Yeah the poptart thing was ridiculous, not saying this country…  [+] (1 reply) 09/18/2015 on This is a clock 0
#10 - tapeboy (09/18/2015) [-]
i personally think its a zero tolerance thing. kids get suspended and arrested for stupid fucking shit every day. the media outrage was a race thing.
#6 - never said it couldn't happen just that it wouldn't have happe…  [+] (3 replies) 09/18/2015 on This is a clock 0
#7 - tapeboy (09/18/2015) [-]
the kid that made the poptart gun got arrested at first as well. and you are right it doesn't happen the same way this kid got a free ride to just about any college he could want a free trip to the white house and everything else because of racial sensitivity in this fucked up PC world.
#9 - andrewld (09/18/2015) [-]
Yeah the poptart thing was ridiculous, not saying this country doesn't overreact to stuff like this but it's rarely not this extreme, the reason why this is different from the poptart incident though is because of the fact that it was most likely racial, I don't think in this case it's a matter of racial sensitivity due to the fact that this happened in texas, one of the most conservative states in the country, and yeah the trip to the white house and everything was kinda ridiculous
#10 - tapeboy (09/18/2015) [-]
i personally think its a zero tolerance thing. kids get suspended and arrested for stupid fucking shit every day. the media outrage was a race thing.