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#120 - great point. As we get deeper into the disparities between men… 03/25/2015 on Feminism Translated 0
#72 - you didn't finish your thought in the first sentence? if i thi…  [+] (1 new reply) 03/25/2015 on Feminism Translated -2
#73 - ugoboom (03/25/2015) [-]
I used > to quote you, buddy. The first line is what you wrote.
>women get paid 20% lesss than men for the same job....not really economic equality
fucking bullshit. show me the facts. that's right, the wage gap is a lie, anything else would be illegal as shit (Equal Pay Act of 1963). You can really tell it's a lie because if I was an owner of a buisness, and I could pay women 20% less then men, then I woudn't hire men at all. It would be all women, yet we don't fucking see this ever happen. I wonder why. Pic related.
>political equality
Women vote more than men. www.cawp.rutgers.edu/fast_facts/voters/documents/genderdiff.pdf
Women time and time again pick men to represent them. This isn't a problem that can be fixed.
>social equality
men and women are men and women. We're fucking different, yet some say we should be the exact same, and that we actually are the same. It's bullshit. It's progressivist propaganda that we all took hook line and sinker.
#66 - but again, she is an example of a type of feminism that I was …  [+] (3 new replies) 03/25/2015 on Feminism Translated -2
User avatar #69 - ugoboom (03/25/2015) [-]
>And if you think females gaining economic, political...equality
They, at least in the US, got political equality with first wave feminism
They got economic equality with the second wave in the 60's/70's
And what the fuck does social equality mean?
#72 - alphahelix (03/25/2015) [-]
you didn't finish your thought in the first sentence? if i think that, then what? I'm pro-Female? lol thats basically what i'm saying anyway, since i'm advocating feminism

omic equality
women get paid 20% lesss than men for the same job....not really economic equality
>political equality
women are MAJORLY under-represented in every corner of U.S. government, from legislature, executive branch to bureaucracy
>social equality
basically its the expectation that women stereotypes won't actively affect the types of resources and oppurtunies they would receive if they were men. as a minor example, the concept that it'd be weird to even consider going out with a girl either because she is taller than you or stronger than you. of course, this goes both ways, it puts pressure on men and women. this part is more tumblr's bread and butter, and more of a cultural thing
#73 - ugoboom (03/25/2015) [-]
I used > to quote you, buddy. The first line is what you wrote.
>women get paid 20% lesss than men for the same job....not really economic equality
fucking bullshit. show me the facts. that's right, the wage gap is a lie, anything else would be illegal as shit (Equal Pay Act of 1963). You can really tell it's a lie because if I was an owner of a buisness, and I could pay women 20% less then men, then I woudn't hire men at all. It would be all women, yet we don't fucking see this ever happen. I wonder why. Pic related.
>political equality
Women vote more than men. www.cawp.rutgers.edu/fast_facts/voters/documents/genderdiff.pdf
Women time and time again pick men to represent them. This isn't a problem that can be fixed.
>social equality
men and women are men and women. We're fucking different, yet some say we should be the exact same, and that we actually are the same. It's bullshit. It's progressivist propaganda that we all took hook line and sinker.
#65 - just because you have done well for yourself, doesn't mean you…  [+] (3 new replies) 03/25/2015 on Feminism Translated 0
#68 - ugoboom (03/25/2015) [-]
what fucking problems?
boys not expressing feelings? that's a feminine trait, of course she's trying to support it
women not getting enough shit? it's all bullshit

what the fuck has she done that was even remotely meaningful and not a power grab
#71 - ugoboom (03/25/2015) [-]
yeah buddy, I already summarized that speech with those two middle lines.
her one, and only speech. something ELSE
#47 - I'm always up for a good feminazi bashing, but i don't particu…  [+] (13 new replies) 03/25/2015 on Feminism Translated +21
#102 - mustardbater (03/25/2015) [-]
That's all well and good at face value, but you actually outlined some of the main problems I have with feminism.

We're not perfect. As you stated, women are still given the sour end of the deal on many aspects of modern society. Thing is, men are given quite a few sour deals themselves. As I said, we're not perfect. Now you could do as most people and go "feminism is about equal rights for both genders!" But although they operate under that banner, and for the most part legitimately believe it, when put into action the reality is widely very different. And you specified why.

Namely, one of the core beliefs of feminism: "overall us men still have the upper hand in society... it means "Hey, help us get on the same footing guys".". This belief is why feminists can, and too often do, fight vigorously for the rectification of discrimination suffered by women, with complete disregard, disbelief, or utter apathy for the discrimination suffered by men, including the discrimination which they themselves enforce on men as a means of solving some form of discrimination suffered by women. All while doing so with whole-hearted belief that it is in the interest of "equality for both genders."

Because in their mind, the genders aren't two diverse entities that interact with eachother via a complex web of often ambiguous, two-way social stigmas, prejudices, and remnants of a chaotic past we're only ever so recently beginning to improve upon. In their mind, the genders are a black and white, two-tiered system of oppression. Men on top, liberated, privileged, and unburdened. Women on the bottom, dominated, silenced, and put upon. So in the mind of such a person, "achieving equality for both genders" wouldn't mean balancing out the privileges and discrimination experienced by both sexes to achieve equilibrium, it would mean unfairly raising women up/dragging men down to account for the perceived, non-debatable preexisting inequality, which a method we've seen used regrettably often in recent years.

To wrap up, when feminists parade the ideal that feminism is movement for "achieving gender equality" I don't buy it. Ironically enough, this entire wall-o-text concludes with me desiring the same action people have been bringing up for years now, but rarely been able to fully elaborate on as to why. I think the entire concept of feminism should be scrapped, and the outdated banner that women < men in society scrapped with it. If we're going to continue to make progress, we have to reform. Replace it all with a new movement. Inclusive and representative of both genders, spearheaded by the banner that each gender, is not yet equal to the other gender. A movement dedicated to identifying points in society where either gender is being discriminated against. And proposing solutions to such problems that don't punish or demonize the opposite gender. Perhaps eventually this group could absorb movements for race-equality as well, and treat them the same way. But hey, baby steps.

As for the name, "Equalism" has been done to death. I like "Balancism".
#120 - alphahelix (03/25/2015) [-]
great point. As we get deeper into the disparities between men and women, especially socially, we realize how intertwined between the two genders are. the object should never be to hurt men, and then it become equalism or balancism. Equality for women to men means the same thing as equality for men to women, and i feel thats a big thing people forget.
Overall, we will never reach an exact equality, but we should always strive for it, i feel.
great argument.
User avatar #89 - ohhh (03/25/2015) [-]
Emma watson says her fair share of stupid shit.
User avatar #75 - thepizzadevourer (03/25/2015) [-]
I agree with you almost completely. The only sticking point for me is that a lot of people look at, say, CEO positions, see that fewer than 50% of them are held by females, and go "See, that's proof that sexism still exists". But the thing is, that's not fighting sexism, that's enforcing sameness between both sexes. Without additional information proving otherwise, it could just be that women don't *want* to be CEO's as much as men do. Kinda like how a decent portion (if not almost all) of the "wage gap" is due to the fact that women more often choose jobs that pay less.

TL;DR: I'm 100% behind gender equality, but I think it's a mistake to assume that will mean every single position in the world will have a 50/50 chance of being filled by a male or a female. That's not the freedom of equality, that's forced uniformity.
User avatar #59 - ugoboom (03/25/2015) [-]
>emma watson
yeah, when you've been a movie star and pandered to your entire life, but yet can still cry sexism, it goes to show you how entitled that movement is.
no feminism is good, know your enemy.
#66 - alphahelix (03/25/2015) [-]
but again, she is an example of a type of feminism that I was referencing. the kind of Feminism that preaches equality with men. And if you think females gaining economic, political, and social equality with men is wrong, you are purely anti-woman.
User avatar #69 - ugoboom (03/25/2015) [-]
>And if you think females gaining economic, political...equality
They, at least in the US, got political equality with first wave feminism
They got economic equality with the second wave in the 60's/70's
And what the fuck does social equality mean?
#72 - alphahelix (03/25/2015) [-]
you didn't finish your thought in the first sentence? if i think that, then what? I'm pro-Female? lol thats basically what i'm saying anyway, since i'm advocating feminism

omic equality
women get paid 20% lesss than men for the same job....not really economic equality
>political equality
women are MAJORLY under-represented in every corner of U.S. government, from legislature, executive branch to bureaucracy
>social equality
basically its the expectation that women stereotypes won't actively affect the types of resources and oppurtunies they would receive if they were men. as a minor example, the concept that it'd be weird to even consider going out with a girl either because she is taller than you or stronger than you. of course, this goes both ways, it puts pressure on men and women. this part is more tumblr's bread and butter, and more of a cultural thing
#73 - ugoboom (03/25/2015) [-]
I used > to quote you, buddy. The first line is what you wrote.
>women get paid 20% lesss than men for the same job....not really economic equality
fucking bullshit. show me the facts. that's right, the wage gap is a lie, anything else would be illegal as shit (Equal Pay Act of 1963). You can really tell it's a lie because if I was an owner of a buisness, and I could pay women 20% less then men, then I woudn't hire men at all. It would be all women, yet we don't fucking see this ever happen. I wonder why. Pic related.
>political equality
Women vote more than men. www.cawp.rutgers.edu/fast_facts/voters/documents/genderdiff.pdf
Women time and time again pick men to represent them. This isn't a problem that can be fixed.
>social equality
men and women are men and women. We're fucking different, yet some say we should be the exact same, and that we actually are the same. It's bullshit. It's progressivist propaganda that we all took hook line and sinker.
#65 - alphahelix (03/25/2015) [-]
just because you have done well for yourself, doesn't mean you can't recognize the problems that plague the rest of society
#68 - ugoboom (03/25/2015) [-]
what fucking problems?
boys not expressing feelings? that's a feminine trait, of course she's trying to support it
women not getting enough shit? it's all bullshit

what the fuck has she done that was even remotely meaningful and not a power grab
#71 - ugoboom (03/25/2015) [-]
yeah buddy, I already summarized that speech with those two middle lines.
her one, and only speech. something ELSE
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