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#33 - Yeah, okay. If your race is your only source of pride and acco…  [+] (1 new reply) 08/29/2015 on How to BJ 0
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#34 - dinonator (08/29/2015) [-]
tell me something i dont know
#229 - Yeah, how about just make college free like every other major …  [+] (7 new replies) 08/29/2015 on $33 0
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#244 - insanemanoo (09/01/2015) [-]
Okay firstly, can we agree that college is considered "higher education", meaning that it is above average? Now I don't know where you're from, but I'd wager it's somewhere where you have to pay extra for something "above average". You can have a $50 suit from Walmart, or, you have the freedom to choose a nice $650 Tommy Hilfiger suit if you so choose. Your argument is the equivalent of saying "Since the Walmart suit is $50, the Tommy Hilfiger suit should be $50 as well". The bottom line is that a HIGHER education is not a right, it is a privilege and an investment, and making it a standard will only devalue its demonstration of educational superiority. A standard 12 year, high school education is a right. And don't even start with that "Other country's have done it" argument. America is different and unique in the fact that what works in these other country's won't work in America due to our Constitution.
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#245 - alltimetens (09/01/2015) [-]
Sweden and Denmark are doing exceptionally well. We're both democratic. We both operate in similar fashions. I get the "devaluing" part. But I'd rather have a devalued college degree than none at all.

As a matter of fact, your whole view on this is wrong. To you, it may be an investment. But to millions of other people, college is just part of the "12 years." It's to become educated and to be a more well-rounded human being. I believe that education is a right.

And for the record, simply having a degree is not the whole picture. People will also look at your grades and participation in college activities.
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#246 - insanemanoo (09/01/2015) [-]
I'm saying you can have a fully valued college degree if you're willing to work for it in the form of jobs and scholarships rather than complaining about how expensive it is.

And college IS an investment. Its a priced education beyond the 12 years to give you an edge up in the job market. Up through high school is a standard education, going beyond that costs money. You have the right to a standard education, not a higher one. Once you're out of high school, you have the freedom to pay for a higher education if you believe the benefits outweigh the costs or the freedom not to if you so choose. Saying that everyone has the right to higher education is a completely moot point because everyone in America DOES have access to higher education and many choose not to do it. No college turns people away for any reason other than a lack of educational aptitude. The cost is not a factor in this because of the safety nets which already exist...like jobs....scholarships....grants....federal aid.....loans.
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#247 - alltimetens (09/01/2015) [-]
Are you serious? I'm sure if it was such an easy task to "work" for it and obtain scholarships then we wouldn't be trillions of dollars in student loan debt.

You're sounding very naive at this point.
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#248 - insanemanoo (09/01/2015) [-]
No, the reason that people generate student debts is because they take out loans which they don't have to put any work towards and have to pay back rather than a scholarship which requires more work to get, but doesn't require being paid back. I'm a member of a website that's pretty much a database of scholarships and let's me know what I can apply for and I have over $600,000 worth of eligible scholarships. That's enough for a full ride to Harvard if I wanted to go there, but instead, I'm going to a roughly $40k per year university absolutely free because of scholarships. Like I said, the money is there, you just have to be willing to work for it. Saying I want money for college, but I don't want to have to work for it is one of the most immature arguments I've ever heard.
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#249 - alltimetens (09/02/2015) [-]
It isn't immature because college shouldn't force you to scavenge for scholarships. More people having a degree doesn't mean that its value will decrease because academic performance and extracurriculars will still be major factors. In addition, a lot of people will choose not to go to college either way. Lastly, you can still obtain higher degrees. We're not changing the difficulty of achieving a college degree. People will still need to insert countless hours into their work.

Like I said, not everyone can be covered by scholarships. It isn't that simple.
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#250 - insanemanoo (09/02/2015) [-]
Colleges don't force you to scavenge for scholarships. They offer you a service, at a price. If you don't like the price, you can offset the cost by other means, find that service elsewhere, or go without it. No one's forcing anyone to do anything. You act like colleges are here for you. They're a business. Their goal is to make money by offering higher education. And more people having degrees also means more people in extracurricular activities as well, which will also devalue the achievement of taking the time to do those. You just don't seem to grasp the concept that the more plentiful something is, the less its worth both intrinsically and monetarily. This applies to any good or service, college included. The fact that there are many ways to help offset college costs should be more than enough for people, but I guess people like you won't be happy until your degree and dream career offer is handed to you on a silver platter. Also, making it government controlled through government funding WILL make the curricula less advanced. Its the same thing that happened when high school began being overseen by the government. Its why private high schools are considered better educational institutions than public high schools.

And I just said that I'm eligible for $600k in scholarships, and I'm honestly nothing special. ANYONE is eligible for some scholarships, and even if you aren't, there's grants and financial aid, which again, should be enough for people unless they want their degree handed to them without them exerting any effort.
#45 - So your solution is to only let rich kids get a college educat…  [+] (9 new replies) 08/28/2015 on $33 +5
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#60 - insanemanoo (08/28/2015) [-]
No, because if you work your ass off and apply for a ton of scholarships ANYONE can attend university for little to no cost. There's already plenty of help to get lower-income students into college (such as the FAFSA), but those who support free college are just looking for a free handout because they don't want to do the work to apply for scholarships or work an actual job.
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#229 - alltimetens (08/29/2015) [-]
Yeah, how about just make college free like every other major country on Earth? Thanks.
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#244 - insanemanoo (09/01/2015) [-]
Okay firstly, can we agree that college is considered "higher education", meaning that it is above average? Now I don't know where you're from, but I'd wager it's somewhere where you have to pay extra for something "above average". You can have a $50 suit from Walmart, or, you have the freedom to choose a nice $650 Tommy Hilfiger suit if you so choose. Your argument is the equivalent of saying "Since the Walmart suit is $50, the Tommy Hilfiger suit should be $50 as well". The bottom line is that a HIGHER education is not a right, it is a privilege and an investment, and making it a standard will only devalue its demonstration of educational superiority. A standard 12 year, high school education is a right. And don't even start with that "Other country's have done it" argument. America is different and unique in the fact that what works in these other country's won't work in America due to our Constitution.
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#245 - alltimetens (09/01/2015) [-]
Sweden and Denmark are doing exceptionally well. We're both democratic. We both operate in similar fashions. I get the "devaluing" part. But I'd rather have a devalued college degree than none at all.

As a matter of fact, your whole view on this is wrong. To you, it may be an investment. But to millions of other people, college is just part of the "12 years." It's to become educated and to be a more well-rounded human being. I believe that education is a right.

And for the record, simply having a degree is not the whole picture. People will also look at your grades and participation in college activities.
User avatar
#246 - insanemanoo (09/01/2015) [-]
I'm saying you can have a fully valued college degree if you're willing to work for it in the form of jobs and scholarships rather than complaining about how expensive it is.

And college IS an investment. Its a priced education beyond the 12 years to give you an edge up in the job market. Up through high school is a standard education, going beyond that costs money. You have the right to a standard education, not a higher one. Once you're out of high school, you have the freedom to pay for a higher education if you believe the benefits outweigh the costs or the freedom not to if you so choose. Saying that everyone has the right to higher education is a completely moot point because everyone in America DOES have access to higher education and many choose not to do it. No college turns people away for any reason other than a lack of educational aptitude. The cost is not a factor in this because of the safety nets which already exist...like jobs....scholarships....grants....federal aid.....loans.
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#247 - alltimetens (09/01/2015) [-]
Are you serious? I'm sure if it was such an easy task to "work" for it and obtain scholarships then we wouldn't be trillions of dollars in student loan debt.

You're sounding very naive at this point.
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#248 - insanemanoo (09/01/2015) [-]
No, the reason that people generate student debts is because they take out loans which they don't have to put any work towards and have to pay back rather than a scholarship which requires more work to get, but doesn't require being paid back. I'm a member of a website that's pretty much a database of scholarships and let's me know what I can apply for and I have over $600,000 worth of eligible scholarships. That's enough for a full ride to Harvard if I wanted to go there, but instead, I'm going to a roughly $40k per year university absolutely free because of scholarships. Like I said, the money is there, you just have to be willing to work for it. Saying I want money for college, but I don't want to have to work for it is one of the most immature arguments I've ever heard.
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#249 - alltimetens (09/02/2015) [-]
It isn't immature because college shouldn't force you to scavenge for scholarships. More people having a degree doesn't mean that its value will decrease because academic performance and extracurriculars will still be major factors. In addition, a lot of people will choose not to go to college either way. Lastly, you can still obtain higher degrees. We're not changing the difficulty of achieving a college degree. People will still need to insert countless hours into their work.

Like I said, not everyone can be covered by scholarships. It isn't that simple.
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#250 - insanemanoo (09/02/2015) [-]
Colleges don't force you to scavenge for scholarships. They offer you a service, at a price. If you don't like the price, you can offset the cost by other means, find that service elsewhere, or go without it. No one's forcing anyone to do anything. You act like colleges are here for you. They're a business. Their goal is to make money by offering higher education. And more people having degrees also means more people in extracurricular activities as well, which will also devalue the achievement of taking the time to do those. You just don't seem to grasp the concept that the more plentiful something is, the less its worth both intrinsically and monetarily. This applies to any good or service, college included. The fact that there are many ways to help offset college costs should be more than enough for people, but I guess people like you won't be happy until your degree and dream career offer is handed to you on a silver platter. Also, making it government controlled through government funding WILL make the curricula less advanced. Its the same thing that happened when high school began being overseen by the government. Its why private high schools are considered better educational institutions than public high schools.

And I just said that I'm eligible for $600k in scholarships, and I'm honestly nothing special. ANYONE is eligible for some scholarships, and even if you aren't, there's grants and financial aid, which again, should be enough for people unless they want their degree handed to them without them exerting any effort.
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#76 - anon (08/27/2015) [-]
Look at the Mayfairs, it's in England, that's £5.20, so around $8.
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#64 - Okay. Sure. We are all retarded and you are the only smart per…  [+] (1 new reply) 08/27/2015 on Space Travel 0
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#65 - icedcarbon (08/27/2015) [-]
Why do you all just persist on replying with nothing but fillers. How about telling me exactly what's wrong?

Did I offend you with something? Unlike you lot who just start calling others uneducated, stupid, dumb or whatever for no reason.
#61 - Read what you said. You just sound so stupid holy ****. And I'…  [+] (3 new replies) 08/27/2015 on Space Travel 0
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#63 - icedcarbon (08/27/2015) [-]
It seems some of the stuff doesn't look "formally" phrased, but maybe I should have, because retards like you can't seem to understand it. I'll go with my version... I said nothing wrong. You simply can't point out what I was wrong about cuz I wans't wrong. Just stay out of it.
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#64 - alltimetens (08/27/2015) [-]
Okay. Sure. We are all retarded and you are the only smart person in the universe. Good day.
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#65 - icedcarbon (08/27/2015) [-]
Why do you all just persist on replying with nothing but fillers. How about telling me exactly what's wrong?

Did I offend you with something? Unlike you lot who just start calling others uneducated, stupid, dumb or whatever for no reason.
#59 - Dude. Just shut up. You lost the debate. Stop trying to drag *…  [+] (5 new replies) 08/27/2015 on Space Travel +1
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#60 - icedcarbon (08/27/2015) [-]
Wow, that was 5 hours ago. There was no debate and even if there was, I wouldn't have it lost. All I said was true. Where exactly was I uninformed? Stubborn I am, but ignorant, I sure am not. You on the other hand...
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#61 - alltimetens (08/27/2015) [-]
Read what you said. You just sound so stupid holy fuck. And I'm not on my computer so i can't be bothered to explain what you're dumb about.

Reread the comments til you get it.
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#63 - icedcarbon (08/27/2015) [-]
It seems some of the stuff doesn't look "formally" phrased, but maybe I should have, because retards like you can't seem to understand it. I'll go with my version... I said nothing wrong. You simply can't point out what I was wrong about cuz I wans't wrong. Just stay out of it.
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#64 - alltimetens (08/27/2015) [-]
Okay. Sure. We are all retarded and you are the only smart person in the universe. Good day.
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#65 - icedcarbon (08/27/2015) [-]
Why do you all just persist on replying with nothing but fillers. How about telling me exactly what's wrong?

Did I offend you with something? Unlike you lot who just start calling others uneducated, stupid, dumb or whatever for no reason.
#26 - As if any of your opinions matter. You're both gonna claim tha…  [+] (4 new replies) 08/26/2015 on How to BJ +1
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#32 - dinonator (08/29/2015) [-]
im lazy you got that right, for the rest im better then u bae
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#33 - alltimetens (08/29/2015) [-]
Yeah, okay. If your race is your only source of pride and accomplishment, then you are an utter waste of space.
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#34 - dinonator (08/29/2015) [-]
tell me something i dont know
#27 - anon (08/26/2015) [-]
They have nothing else.