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#66 - oh my ******* god yeah we know that the fact they are not docu…  [+] (38 replies) 06/21/2016 on Illegal -1
#166 - anon (06/22/2016) [-]
but enough of them are to be a problem. besides, I didn't want to live in mexico, with mexicans, so I won't move there. they should give the same consideration to americans.
#145 - deutschblut (06/22/2016) [-]
Los Dindo Nuffiños?

They are breaking the law.

That is what a criminal is.

How do they live here?

Where do they get ID to rent an apartment? Loan to buy a car? How do they work with no ID or SSN? All of those, by stealing identities, committing fraud, dodging taxes, and so on.

And we need to END jus soli.

You are not American unless your parents are. I don't give a fuck if you were born here by being spit out over the border, as a welfare prize.
#77 - epicbanjoman (06/21/2016) [-]
But they are all criminals. Hence illegal immigrants. The extent of their crime may be different, but they all share the same crime of entering this country illegally.
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#311 - guillem (06/22/2016) [-]
I don't know how it goes in the US, but in my country being a criminal means you've carried out a behaviour that is punished by Criminal Law. Being an inmigrant is an administrative infraction, which means it can't be formally labelled "a crime", therefore rendering this post incorrect. The press and mainstream society use "illegal" because they mostly know nothing about Law.
#317 - epicbanjoman (06/22/2016) [-]
Welcome to American Law, faggot.
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#320 - guillem (06/22/2016) [-]
So, what is illegal is trying to enter through an unofficial channel, right? Then the illegality isn't really about being in the country but rather trying to enter it through an unauthorized way. Therefore, if someone enters say via a tourism visa (legal way to enter into the country) and stays there after it expires, technicslly they are not criminals, right? I am trying to understand it.

There is no need for downthumbing nor being an asshole, friend
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#324 - epicbanjoman (06/22/2016) [-]
I also apologize for being an asshole. I hate arguing with people and the discussion on this thread has got me annoyed with everybody,
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#323 - epicbanjoman (06/22/2016) [-]
Essentially, entering the country under illegal channels is a crime. Entering the country through channels of tourism requires a Visa Passport. I used to work at a passport erminal for a cruise line. If anyone was visiting my country as a tourist, they were required to show me their passport and their Travelling Visa. Their Visa has an expiration date. If they remain in the country after their expiration date, I imagine they need to renew it or they would be deported immediately. Imagine you're having a party at your house. Imagine you invited only a group of specific people. Now, imagine some random person sneaks into your party and starts drinking. That's illegally entering the country. Now imagine that the party ends and some random guy doesn't leave and just remains in your house for days. That's remaining in the country after your visa expires. Hopefully, I explained it easily. If there's something that you still don't understand or just want more explanations on, I'll see if I can help.
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#147 - deutschblut (06/22/2016) [-]
There is no such thing as an illegal immigrant.

All immigrants have a right to live in America forever.

I think you means "illegal migrants" Or invading armies?
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#79 - adrilazzaro (06/21/2016) [-]
Yeah we've already established that, I'm not arguing that it is technically crime but you're purposefully ignoring what Bakagaijin meant. I've already spelled it out for you. You're just a prick who can't see past laws, i guess every single person who's ever smoked weed should be incarcerated as well since they're all criminals
#149 - anon (06/22/2016) [-]
I hope your criminal scumbag worthless ass is not in my fucking country.
#102 - bakagaijin (06/22/2016) [-]
**bakagaijin used "*roll picture*"**
**bakagaijin rolled image** It's technically not a crime if a child crosses with their parent illegally... as in no crime has been committed... if the child stays in the country and doesn't go through with the legalization process before they can legally be deported, then it becomes a crime.... if they become a lawful resident before the age of when they can be legally deported, then no immigration crime has been committed by said person... although their parents might open themselves up to human trafficking of a minor chargers... so it's a double edged sword
#84 - epicbanjoman (06/21/2016) [-]
Well fuck you too. And no, I don't want every guy who smokes weed to be arrested, but what does that matter to you. All you care about is being right and anyone who dare state a fact is an asshole. Also, pic related. Its you.
#151 - anon (06/22/2016) [-]
People who smoke pot should be in prison. It is a fucking CRIME.
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#87 - adrilazzaro (06/21/2016) [-]
No it's not your facts that make you an asshole right now it's your hypocrisy. All illegal immigrants are criminals so they should be deported, following this logic all pot smokers are criminals and should be arrested. Why can't you follow your own jurisdictions? My point is that some laws might technically make you a criminal but it doesn't mean you're a bad person or that legal action should be taken against you. You seem to only agree with that when it fits your bigoted agenda.
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#89 - epicbanjoman (06/21/2016) [-]
Marijuana laws are changing. Some states are legalizing it. Illegal immigration and a changing law are too different things bud, But hey, its okay. Go be mad at me. If it makes you feel better and superior, go right ahead.
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#152 - deutschblut (06/22/2016) [-]
States cannot make marijuana legal.

It's illegal in America.
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#96 - adrilazzaro (06/21/2016) [-]
They've changed in all but 3 states, and as of right now it's still federally illegal across the nation. But you seem to understand that it shouldn't be illegal. I'm willing to bet even 5 years ago when it was still illegal everywhere and not looking good that you still thought it was a stupid law, both laws incriminate nonviolent offenders, the crime doesn't hurt anyone but you're alright with one of them...
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#97 - epicbanjoman (06/21/2016) [-]
One involves a US citizen and another involves someone who is not document and entered this country illegally. This comparison goes only to the point where you say "well I bet you want all of them deported asshole." Go read my other conversation with the other person who made this argument, you fucking dip.
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#99 - adrilazzaro (06/21/2016) [-]
Forgive me for not reading all of your other previous conversations so that i might have a better understanding of your standing on all issues. /s

So would you agree most issues with immigrants would be resolved if the path to legal residence was easier and they could pay all those taxes (I'm assuming that's your issue) and live a normal life like they want to.
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#154 - deutschblut (06/22/2016) [-]
Why make residence easier?

We need to make it harder.

America needs valuable people, not deadbeat, uneducated criminal foreigners.
#265 - bakagaijin (06/22/2016) [-]
Why make residence easier? to keep the ones who actually came here for a better life... that and the boatloads of taxes that come with them

We need to make it harder. making residence harder is a reallllllyyyyy bad idea... make residency harder would just lead more people to enter illegally and make the coyotes filthy rich... same point can be said for firearms... restrict firearms sales and you will just make it harder for those with good intentions and those with legitimate reasons to get one, that would just flood the black market with illegal guns and make it easier for criminals to rob homes/commit armed robberies because they won't need to worry as much since the chances that the person he's robbing won't be armed

America needs valuable people, not deadbeat, uneducated criminal foreigners. citation heavily needed... not all illegal immigrants are criminals ( some are, some are not) and not all illegal aliens are uneducated criminals either (again... some are, some are not and you also have to account that the American public educational system is in the stoneage compared to other countries) lots of them actually have degrees (I met a fucking doctor in a supermarket for crying out loud... working in the produce department) and are skilled laborers (construction, welding, electrical... you know... the type of work you pick them up for in front of home depot) I have no idea where you get the impression that they are criminals (I'm assuming you mean crimes that matter, not trespassing or jaywalking or open fires on the beach) but if I was an illegal alien, the last thing I would want to do is Rob someone at gunpoint, or get into fights with people, or destroy cars and loot stores during riots, most of the illegal immigrants I see are either working or looking for work..and if you look at the statistics, you would see that most violent crimes are committed against whites and Hispanics by blacks....
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#300 - deutschblut (06/22/2016) [-]
No one is this stupid.

Go troll somewhere else you retard.
#312 - bakagaijin (06/22/2016) [-]
Why don't you explain how I'm wrong instead of calling me a troll and playing the "no you're stupid" defense?
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#319 - deutschblut (06/22/2016) [-]
Trolls are worthless and do not deserve the time and attention.

If you are serious, than you are not even a human, and do not deserve the time of day.
#327 - bakagaijin (06/23/2016) [-]
**bakagaijin used "*roll picture*"**
**bakagaijin rolled image** I gave you precise and coherent rebuttals, all you can do is stuck your fingers in your ears and say "lalalalalala, I can't hear you" ..... hummmm.... you make a compelling case
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#337 - deutschblut (06/23/2016) [-]
For some reason I cannot reply to your other posts, it is locked out...

Probably so I can't refute your anti-American propaganda.

OK, I do not give a shit about the economy of Mexico. It has nothing to do with the discussion. Mexico's economy is not OUR responsibility!

And to everything else, if you think it is perfectly fine to break scores of laws, you are worthless criminal scum. Yes, I follow the law. I am American. That is what we do. Unless your lawless Mexico scum nation where you are from.

And finally, we get it. You hate America. You hate Americans. You hate the law. So what? Do you think that posting that shit on a comedic website for people with autism is going to destroy America and make us eat burritos?

Fuck off back to wetback land!
#338 - anon (06/23/2016) [-]
hey deutschblut, yeah we hit max reply First of all, I never said I was pro mexican
Second off, I never said I hate america
Do I hate the path that America is heading down? Yes I do, do I believe that jumping the border illegally is a crime when committed by an uncoerced consenting adult? Yes I do (its a misdemeanor but still illegal, I agree...) but saying that these people are all criminal scum and deserve nothing less than working to the bone in prison camps is like saying someone was trying to shoot up a school by bitting a pop tart in the shape of a gun... and this xenophobic standpoint that you have is counterproductive to your point... by closing off immigration you just force those who would have made it into this country through legal means take less legal approaches... and if you think that a wall will keep them out, then you have are naiive in thinking patrols cannot be bribed and tunnels do not exist...

And blocking me just because you don't like to hear what I said? That's petty and immature... whatever happened to your love of the constitution? Freedom of speech is right up there buddy
#330 - deutschblut (06/23/2016) [-]
"Not all illegal immigrants are criminals".

For one, all immigrants are here legally. I never said anything ill about immigrants.

As for the "illegal aliens", 100% of them are criminals.

Skills in construction work, welding, babysitting, and toilet cleaning are NOT skills desirable to America. We do not need low-level trade skills. We have plenty of that in America that Citizens and immigrants cannot find work in those fields.

Very few developed nations desire these skills. In fact, New Zealand is the only developed nation that I can think of off the top of my head that needs these skills.

"Crimes that matter"

ALL crimes matter.

"I don't know where you get the impression that the illegals are criminals"

Well, the fact that they are illegal for one. They are violating immigration laws. Putting America at risk of dangerous diseases. Hiding their identities and whereabouts. Working illegally. Taking jobs from Americans. Stealing identities. Dodging taxes. Credit fraud. Using drugs. Dealing drugs. Selling child sex slaves. Murder. Rape. Abducting American women and children as sex slaves.

"Most crimes are committed against whites and Hispanics are by blacks"

Firstly, most Hispanics are white. That is like saying "the best culture is white and French culture".

Additionally, since when did America have a major issue with illegal migrants from Africa?

There. You have a reply. But there is no way your ridiculous posts are real. I am an ethnic German. We are too pragmatic for opinions. It is not an issue of opinion. It is an issue of you being wrong on every account.
#333 - bakagaijin (06/23/2016) [-]
Again... if you follow the law to a "t" then you would understand that a child under the age of 7 cannot legally commit a crime... ergo if they are brought in to the country by crossing the borders they are technically not committing a crime and/or not liable for prosecution of said crime... I am not arguing that the act of crossing the border is illegal, I get that... but what I am arguing is what the post is saying when referring to ALL illegal immigrants or alien are criminals. Also, like I said, the majority of them are in the manual labor department by default... some not ALL how you seem to insinuate that I mean do have skills outside of the work they chose... such as an engineer working construction, or a surgeon working as a butcher, or a restaurant owner working as a porter... you sound like you live in a city with a high south American concentration, am I right to assume this? Well I used to live in NYC, a high number of illegal immigrants are from China there... and do you have any proof that they steal any identities? Sorry to say this, but it seems like you are sourcing all of your information from an aggressive pro trump site and don't show any definitive proof and expect me to take your word for it.... raging on the keyboard and spewing opinions and personal theories is not how you counter an argument my friend and as far as them collecting proper identification and how they "get drivers license" or "rent apartments" you must remember that crossing the border illegally is a federal offense, not a state offense just how smoking weed in Colorado is permitted by the state, but not by the government so in actuality the state has nothing to do with immigration status, and will give you a driver's license as long as you can provide the 6 points of identification such as a passport, birth certificate, government assistance identification (which they can legally recieve) foreign identification/licenses and renting an apartment is not that difficult if the landlord looks the other way or doesn't verify immigration status
#329 - deutschblut (06/23/2016) [-]
You suggest that residency in America should be easier.

But America does not need sick, uneducated, unskilled, criminal workers.

"Citation heavily needed"

You are the stupid one. Go educate yourself. This is the basic principal of every nation's immigration policy, the world over.

All countries in the world only want the best foreigners. Name one nation that seeks out uneducated criminals to give them free welfare and free jobs?

"All the Mexicans I know are either working or looking for work"

Firstly, how can you say this, and then say they are not criminals??? If they are looking for work, they are BREAKING THE LAW!

Secondly, you must not know too many wetbacks, becasue most I know stay at home, sleep, drink rhum and tequila, blast music, have parties 7 days a week, and live off welfare that the Americans pay for!

And before you use the stupid lib-tard argument "how can they take all our jobs AND be lazy bums!? Hur hur hur" Easy-THERE ARE SO FUCKING MANY OF THEM!

"They came here for a better life"

You mean our welfare. Mexico, according to international law, is a fine place. There is nothing about Mexico that would warrant their people fleeing. Except to steal our welfare, identities, jobs, wallets, and so on. There are more jobs in Mexico than America. So saying they came here out of desperation for work is also idiotic. Many of them that come here, do so, becasue they cannot get hired in Mexico due to criminal records and lack of education. If they really want to live in America, they should not come here am commit a bunch of crimes. No one wants that!

You say that they should give residency to the foreign criminals here.

They should give them prison, forced labor in a factory, deportation, and/or capital punishment.

If making residency in America creates more wetbacks, though I do not see how, since they already cannot get in legally, we need to make punishment harder. Break into America? Life sentence in a prison work camp.
#336 - bakagaijin (06/23/2016) [-]
Part 2:

Money, while it cannot buy happiness, is an important means to achieving higher living standards. In Mexico, the average household net-adjusted disposable income per capita is USD 12 806 a year, less than the OECD average of USD 29 016 a year. There is a considerable gap between the richest and poorest – the top 20% of the population nearly fourteen times as much as the bottom 20%.

In terms of employment, nearly 60% of people aged 15 to 64 in Mexico have a paid job, lower than the OECD employment average of 66%. Some 78% of men are in paid work, compared with 44% of women. In Mexico, 28% of employees work very long hours, one of the highest in the OECD where the average is 13%. About 35% of men work very long hours compared with 17% of women.

Good education and skills are important requisites for finding a job. In Mexico, 34% of adults aged 25-64 have completed upper secondary education" if you'd like, you can continue reading here www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/countries/mexico/ and you also have to account for the cartel controlling many parts of Mexico and large part of the the government

I'm not saying to give all the illegal immigrants not just Mexicans, since you seem to have a personal grudge against them specifically a visa, I'm saying to weed out the few bad seeds and keep the ones that do believe that America is the country for them.... who knows... without the fear of deportation, they might try to make better of themselves, and if you don't want them here? They might even move back to their home Country while paying their civic duties.
#335 - bakagaijin (06/23/2016) [-]
All countries in the world only want the best foreigners. Name one nation that seeks out uneducated criminals to give them free welfare and free jobs?

Have you seen Europe lately?

I know plenty of Mexicans and most of them are documented... undocumented immigrants usually stick to themselves and are scared to death of attracting any attention to themselves by blasting music 7 days a week and collecting welfare checks so they can stay at home drinking *rum and tequila

You mean our welfare. Mexico, according to international law, is a fine place. There is nothing about Mexico that would warrant their people fleeing. Except to steal our welfare, identities, jobs, wallets, and so on. There are more jobs in Mexico than America. So saying they came here out of desperation for work is also idiotic. Many of them that come here, do so, becasue they cannot get hired in Mexico due to criminal records and lack of education. If they really want to live in America, they should not come here am commit a bunch of crimes. No one wants that!

Again... "according to international law" is a very vague term... what law? Because according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) (French: Organisation de coopération et de développement économiques, OCDE) is an international economic organisation of 34 countries, founded in 1961 to stimulate economic progress and world trade. It is a forum of countries describing themselves as committed to democracy and the market economy, providing a platform to compare policy experiences, seeking answers to common problems, identify good practices and coordinate domestic and international policies of its members. they state that:

"Mexico has made tremendous progress over the last decade in terms of improving the quality of life of its citizens, especially in the areas of education, health and jobs. Notwithstanding, Mexico performs well in only a few measures of well-being relative to most other countries in the Better Life Index. Mexico ranks above average in civic engagement, but below average in the dimensions of jobs and earnings, health status, environmental quality, housing, income and wealth, social connections, work-life balance, personal security, subjective well-being, and education and skills.

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#105 - epicbanjoman (06/22/2016) [-]
Sure. That's what I think is the solution. Mass deporting them would only waste money and create conflict. Ignoring it would only create more problems. I think what I said is the best solution, but I don't know everything. Someone else might come up with a better solution.
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#110 - adrilazzaro (06/22/2016) [-]
Well finger my asshole and call me Shirley we've been unknowingly agreeing this whole time. I guess i sorta assumed you were a right wing racist that wanted all immigrants gone from the tone i was getting, sorry about that
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#111 - epicbanjoman (06/22/2016) [-]
Strange world we live in. Its alright, man. I'm sorry for the derogatory comments as well.
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#5 - well i mean if you kept the phone there forever i guess  [+] (1 reply) 06/05/2016 on Shower time 0
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#6 - muffincannibal (06/05/2016) [-]
I'm thinking in the audio jack port. And charging port.
#3 - not if you have a shatterproof, waterproof phone. like me heh  [+] (3 replies) 06/05/2016 on Shower time 0
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#4 - muffincannibal (06/05/2016) [-]
Might still get mold on it.
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#5 - adrilazzaro (06/05/2016) [-]
well i mean if you kept the phone there forever i guess
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#6 - muffincannibal (06/05/2016) [-]
I'm thinking in the audio jack port. And charging port.
#103 - you're probably bad at it  [+] (1 reply) 06/03/2016 on I bet they're from the... 0
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#104 - manofparody (06/03/2016) [-]
Except it's what I also hear from people who have been in relationships awhile, too.

It's not a single instance. The "Women want it more" thing is a fairy tale of what I've seen.
#16 - I bet your fat ass drinks alcohol and smokes cigarettes  [+] (2 replies) 05/30/2016 on Couch 0
#37 - darksideofthebeast (05/30/2016) [-]
Those aren't drugs though, bro.
#70 - anon (05/30/2016) [-]
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I was about to correct you like an autist b4 I noticed "/s...".