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#17 - forge of souls final boss 06/15/2016 on Unecebtiaaaaable +2
#420 - and being a moderate muslim is in no way a result of islam?? … 06/14/2016 on All is not lost... 0
#138 - 50 killed by ONE GUY, we don't know in what mental state he wa…  [+] (3 new replies) 06/13/2016 on All is not lost... -2
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#173 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
Eh, replied to the wrong thread, but whatever. It would still be going to you.
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#172 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
Islam Does Not Permit Homosexuality There's this too, he explains it pretty well. This isn't a radical idea within Islam, it's orthodox.
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#139 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
He was angry at seeing two men kissing because it was against Islam, so he killed them. This from his own father. We know his reasons and motivations.
#137 - if he's a muslim, and the crime was indeed was motivated by an… 06/13/2016 on All is not lost... -2
#125 - ok i'll stick to islam. if everyone who abided by thi…  [+] (1 new reply) 06/13/2016 on All is not lost... -2
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#145 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
It does happen frequently in those countries, but because it is punishable by DEATH they tend not to let it show. This is the same thing that happened before, when homosexuality was illegal in the western world. The difference is that there wasn't a death penalty for it here.

So let's take a look at the laws in the countries you mentioned, to see if they follow these hadiths.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Libya
>Penalty: Death
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2238812/Twelve-men-face-execution-Libyan-militia-allegedly-gay.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia
>Penalty: Fines, floggings, prison time up to life, torture, chemical castrations, whipping torture, and/or Death penalty on first offense. If convicted twice, you will be executed. Vigilante executions are very common as well, especially by families who want to "save face". The police participate in executions/torture or turn a blind eye to it.Islamic Sharia law is strictly and emphatically applied.
www.washingtonblade.com/2016/03/28/report-saudi-authorities-seek-death-penalty-for-coming-out/

It's legal in Lebanon, because it's not an Islamic theocracy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Morocco
>Penalty:6 months to 3 years imprisonment, fine
So no executions, but plenty of people imprisoned for it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates
>Penalty: Death penalty. Life imprisonment prison time; to small prison sentences, fines, chemical castrations, and deportation for foreigners.
No recent executions, but all that means is nobody has been caught.

In all countries there is rampant Muslim vigilantism against homosexuals as well. These gangs usually torture the victims to death. These aren't state-sanctioned, of course, so I can't technically use them as examples of legal repercussions, but most police look the other way.
#121 - we are on the topic of religion and a crime motivated by relig…  [+] (3 new replies) 06/13/2016 on All is not lost... 0
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#122 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
No, the topic, according to what you said in >>#68, is "was this attack religiously motivated, and was the religion Islam". The answer to that, irrefutably, is yes.
#125 - abdullahmag (06/13/2016) [-]
ok i'll stick to islam.

if everyone who abided by this Hadith, wouldn't there be a lot more homosexuals killed in muslim countries??, cuz i've been to saudi arabia, i've been to libya, i've been to emirates, i've been to morocco, i've been to lebanon, and not once have i seen or heard about a homosexual being executed or killed or fall victim to any religious punishment.

explain to me why it is so?

i'll explain, it's because not everyone is a fucking uncivilized twat, and in these countries are pretty religious.
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#145 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
It does happen frequently in those countries, but because it is punishable by DEATH they tend not to let it show. This is the same thing that happened before, when homosexuality was illegal in the western world. The difference is that there wasn't a death penalty for it here.

So let's take a look at the laws in the countries you mentioned, to see if they follow these hadiths.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Libya
>Penalty: Death
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2238812/Twelve-men-face-execution-Libyan-militia-allegedly-gay.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia
>Penalty: Fines, floggings, prison time up to life, torture, chemical castrations, whipping torture, and/or Death penalty on first offense. If convicted twice, you will be executed. Vigilante executions are very common as well, especially by families who want to "save face". The police participate in executions/torture or turn a blind eye to it.Islamic Sharia law is strictly and emphatically applied.
www.washingtonblade.com/2016/03/28/report-saudi-authorities-seek-death-penalty-for-coming-out/

It's legal in Lebanon, because it's not an Islamic theocracy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Morocco
>Penalty:6 months to 3 years imprisonment, fine
So no executions, but plenty of people imprisoned for it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates
>Penalty: Death penalty. Life imprisonment prison time; to small prison sentences, fines, chemical castrations, and deportation for foreigners.
No recent executions, but all that means is nobody has been caught.

In all countries there is rampant Muslim vigilantism against homosexuals as well. These gangs usually torture the victims to death. These aren't state-sanctioned, of course, so I can't technically use them as examples of legal repercussions, but most police look the other way.
#118 - i've never seen a homosexual be killed as a result of that, an…  [+] (6 new replies) 06/13/2016 on All is not lost... -2
#133 - dudulli (06/13/2016) [-]
They get killed/imprisoned by the government. Not even some random guy who takes "justice" into its own hands.
They base their laws on hadith or Quran.
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#123 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
Except 50 homosexuals were just killed because of that. So now you've seen 50 examples. It's not as common in the US because most Muslims here are the equivalent of Sunday Christians. We don't have many true believers of any religion here because of our education system. It may be lacking, but any secular education is the bane of religious extremism.
#138 - abdullahmag (06/13/2016) [-]
50 killed by ONE GUY, we don't know in what mental state he was in, or the events that lead to him deciding to do this, heck, we don't even know whether he was doing this under ISIS's orders or not.
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#173 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
Eh, replied to the wrong thread, but whatever. It would still be going to you.
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#172 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
Islam Does Not Permit Homosexuality There's this too, he explains it pretty well. This isn't a radical idea within Islam, it's orthodox.
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#139 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
He was angry at seeing two men kissing because it was against Islam, so he killed them. This from his own father. We know his reasons and motivations.
#115 - may i ask, what is this? Lev. 20:13, "If there i…  [+] (5 new replies) 06/13/2016 on All is not lost... +1
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#119 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
Yes, and Christianity is bad as well and should also be eradicated. Levitican law isn't supposed to be followed by Christians, though, and doesn't actually apply to anybody but circumcised Jews because it's part of the covenant.

We aren't discussing Christianity, though. Stay on topic or admit that you are wrong.
#121 - abdullahmag (06/13/2016) [-]
we are on the topic of religion and a crime motivated by religion (allegedly), i AM on topic.
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#122 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
No, the topic, according to what you said in >>#68, is "was this attack religiously motivated, and was the religion Islam". The answer to that, irrefutably, is yes.
#125 - abdullahmag (06/13/2016) [-]
ok i'll stick to islam.

if everyone who abided by this Hadith, wouldn't there be a lot more homosexuals killed in muslim countries??, cuz i've been to saudi arabia, i've been to libya, i've been to emirates, i've been to morocco, i've been to lebanon, and not once have i seen or heard about a homosexual being executed or killed or fall victim to any religious punishment.

explain to me why it is so?

i'll explain, it's because not everyone is a fucking uncivilized twat, and in these countries are pretty religious.
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#145 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
It does happen frequently in those countries, but because it is punishable by DEATH they tend not to let it show. This is the same thing that happened before, when homosexuality was illegal in the western world. The difference is that there wasn't a death penalty for it here.

So let's take a look at the laws in the countries you mentioned, to see if they follow these hadiths.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Libya
>Penalty: Death
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2238812/Twelve-men-face-execution-Libyan-militia-allegedly-gay.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia
>Penalty: Fines, floggings, prison time up to life, torture, chemical castrations, whipping torture, and/or Death penalty on first offense. If convicted twice, you will be executed. Vigilante executions are very common as well, especially by families who want to "save face". The police participate in executions/torture or turn a blind eye to it.Islamic Sharia law is strictly and emphatically applied.
www.washingtonblade.com/2016/03/28/report-saudi-authorities-seek-death-penalty-for-coming-out/

It's legal in Lebanon, because it's not an Islamic theocracy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Morocco
>Penalty:6 months to 3 years imprisonment, fine
So no executions, but plenty of people imprisoned for it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates
>Penalty: Death penalty. Life imprisonment prison time; to small prison sentences, fines, chemical castrations, and deportation for foreigners.
No recent executions, but all that means is nobody has been caught.

In all countries there is rampant Muslim vigilantism against homosexuals as well. These gangs usually torture the victims to death. These aren't state-sanctioned, of course, so I can't technically use them as examples of legal repercussions, but most police look the other way.
#107 - enlighten me, where does it say "kill the homos"?  [+] (8 new replies) 06/13/2016 on All is not lost... -2
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#116 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
www.missionislam.com/knowledge/homosexuality.htm

(1) The Prophet (saws) said: (1) "Kill the one who sodomizes and the one who lets if be done to him." (Tirmidhi, a sahih (authentic) hadith)

(2) "May Allah curse him who does that Lot's people did." (Ibn Hibban, sahih (authentic))

(3) "Lesbianism by women is adultery between them." (Tabarani, sahih)"

This is all mainstream Islam. Different sects have different punishments, but it is universally punishable and most use death.
#118 - abdullahmag (06/13/2016) [-]
i've never seen a homosexual be killed as a result of that, and i've seen plenty.
#133 - dudulli (06/13/2016) [-]
They get killed/imprisoned by the government. Not even some random guy who takes "justice" into its own hands.
They base their laws on hadith or Quran.
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#123 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
Except 50 homosexuals were just killed because of that. So now you've seen 50 examples. It's not as common in the US because most Muslims here are the equivalent of Sunday Christians. We don't have many true believers of any religion here because of our education system. It may be lacking, but any secular education is the bane of religious extremism.
#138 - abdullahmag (06/13/2016) [-]
50 killed by ONE GUY, we don't know in what mental state he was in, or the events that lead to him deciding to do this, heck, we don't even know whether he was doing this under ISIS's orders or not.
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#173 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
Eh, replied to the wrong thread, but whatever. It would still be going to you.
User avatar
#172 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
Islam Does Not Permit Homosexuality There's this too, he explains it pretty well. This isn't a radical idea within Islam, it's orthodox.
User avatar
#139 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
He was angry at seeing two men kissing because it was against Islam, so he killed them. This from his own father. We know his reasons and motivations.
#103 - if i told you "you can't have candy, candy is bad for you…  [+] (7 new replies) 06/13/2016 on All is not lost... -4
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#109 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
No, it's not, because Islam specifically says to kill gays. It doesn't mince words about it, either.
#115 - abdullahmag (06/13/2016) [-]
may i ask, what is this?

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."
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#119 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
Yes, and Christianity is bad as well and should also be eradicated. Levitican law isn't supposed to be followed by Christians, though, and doesn't actually apply to anybody but circumcised Jews because it's part of the covenant.

We aren't discussing Christianity, though. Stay on topic or admit that you are wrong.
#121 - abdullahmag (06/13/2016) [-]
we are on the topic of religion and a crime motivated by religion (allegedly), i AM on topic.
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#122 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
No, the topic, according to what you said in >>#68, is "was this attack religiously motivated, and was the religion Islam". The answer to that, irrefutably, is yes.
#125 - abdullahmag (06/13/2016) [-]
ok i'll stick to islam.

if everyone who abided by this Hadith, wouldn't there be a lot more homosexuals killed in muslim countries??, cuz i've been to saudi arabia, i've been to libya, i've been to emirates, i've been to morocco, i've been to lebanon, and not once have i seen or heard about a homosexual being executed or killed or fall victim to any religious punishment.

explain to me why it is so?

i'll explain, it's because not everyone is a fucking uncivilized twat, and in these countries are pretty religious.
User avatar
#145 - iamkagji (06/13/2016) [-]
It does happen frequently in those countries, but because it is punishable by DEATH they tend not to let it show. This is the same thing that happened before, when homosexuality was illegal in the western world. The difference is that there wasn't a death penalty for it here.

So let's take a look at the laws in the countries you mentioned, to see if they follow these hadiths.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Libya
>Penalty: Death
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2238812/Twelve-men-face-execution-Libyan-militia-allegedly-gay.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia
>Penalty: Fines, floggings, prison time up to life, torture, chemical castrations, whipping torture, and/or Death penalty on first offense. If convicted twice, you will be executed. Vigilante executions are very common as well, especially by families who want to "save face". The police participate in executions/torture or turn a blind eye to it.Islamic Sharia law is strictly and emphatically applied.
www.washingtonblade.com/2016/03/28/report-saudi-authorities-seek-death-penalty-for-coming-out/

It's legal in Lebanon, because it's not an Islamic theocracy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Morocco
>Penalty:6 months to 3 years imprisonment, fine
So no executions, but plenty of people imprisoned for it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates
>Penalty: Death penalty. Life imprisonment prison time; to small prison sentences, fines, chemical castrations, and deportation for foreigners.
No recent executions, but all that means is nobody has been caught.

In all countries there is rampant Muslim vigilantism against homosexuals as well. These gangs usually torture the victims to death. These aren't state-sanctioned, of course, so I can't technically use them as examples of legal repercussions, but most police look the other way.