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Insensitive, but I somehow doubt you meant it to be.
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User avatar #375 - forbesydemon (07/31/2014) [-]
As note to number 3 Hitler was also voted in, let us not forget that. Being voted in at the start doesn't mean you're incapable of being a dictator later. Hitler did use a whole lot of sketchy tactics to get into power but so have many past leaders.
But otherwise I agree with your points.
User avatar #348 - garymotherfingoak (07/31/2014) [-]
me too endophinsrage
#54 - endorphinsrage (07/30/2014) [-]
I like this guy
#53 - comradewinter (07/30/2014) [-]
You are still fairly wrong here:

1. Woodrow Wilson made assuring bulletins that made the Germans think they would get away easily. The Americans did everything they could to reconciliate, as they lost very few troops and saw massive trading opportunities with the Germans. So no, it wasn't just the Americans, it wasn't the Americans at all. The French, however, saw a good chance to break Germany for good.

2. You don't consider Barbarossa a success if you know anything about war. You can be in the lead in a football game until the last few minutes. You blow it, you lose. A war is determined by who wins in the end, and if an invasion fails, it remains a failure. Especially when you don't have sufficient countermeasures. Stalingrad was also important as it would secure their flanks. Because of the failed attempt to capture it, the Germans were swarmed from different angles.

3. There were also elections in the Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea and so forth. They do elect their leaders. Problem is, the leaders tend to do what they want. The South was mostly run by old mafia, so Syngman Rhee could do what he wanted. Hence why there was an uproar in 1960 to get rid of him for his autocratic regime and corruption. Russia today is far more democratic than South Korea was.

I misread the last bit, somehow. But yes, I agree on that. It was purely ideological. But that doesn't change the fact that they were wars. And no matter what reason you have to fight a war, it remains a war.
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User avatar #514 - cantexplain (07/31/2014) [-]
You forgot to add that America is not secluded on an island. It's called a continent and is much bigger than Europe
User avatar #361 - Agnotizer (07/31/2014) [-]
Damn. Part of the alphabet just kicked that guy's ass.
#329 - anonymous (07/31/2014) [-]
also truman banned total war in both the vietnam and korean wars. if america had wanted, they could have burned them to the ground, or turned them into nuclear craters. McArthur was technically fired because he wanted total war and truman didn't.
#241 - anonymous (07/30/2014) [-]
Kind of a side note but Korea is still a bit of a conflict, the U.S. Still mans the dmz in Korea and are still prepared for further fighting
#240 - sinclairr (07/30/2014) [-]
South Korea wasn't a democracy

Blasphemy, Heresy; Syngman Rhee was not a democratic leader
#125 - anonymous (07/30/2014) [-]
>WW1 raging on
>Continuous stalemate
>Merica enters war
>War over few months later
>profit?????
User avatar #570 - serotonin (07/31/2014) [-]
actually WW1 was pretty much over once Thessaly front (in Greece) was breach by allies (and USA had little to nothing to do with it)
#186 - anonymous (07/30/2014) [-]
I don't think you understand how the ???? profit thing works.

I believe it started with south park when a plan is made by some gnomes or some shit...they explain a process like this:

Step 1. Collect underpants.
Step 2. ????????
Step 3. PROFIT
The ????? is supposed to be a key step that makes what you said make sense. Without it you have no fucking idea how you profit out of collecting underpants. If what you said makes sense without that ????? then you are using it wrong, and if you use it after the word profit then you are just fucking retarded.

User avatar #109 - wotterpatch (07/30/2014) [-]
To be fair, what combat the Americans did see during world war one showed them sweeping the floor for the most part
User avatar #84 - masdercheef (07/30/2014) [-]
Just wanted to add, something else that the US provided for the First World War was aircraft. A fuckload of aircraft, if my memory serves me correctly.
User avatar #107 - wotterpatch (07/30/2014) [-]
In world war one? Fuck, America didn't even produce aircraft for their own fliers in world war one, let alone everyone elses
User avatar #110 - masdercheef (07/30/2014) [-]
Ahhh. I think I may have mixed things up - the US provided pilots, not the planes?
User avatar #111 - wotterpatch (07/30/2014) [-]
Yes. The french had entire squadrons of american volunteers, flying french spads
User avatar #115 - masdercheef (07/30/2014) [-]
Alright, yeah. That sounds right, now. Thanks for helping by correcting what I said, I hate to get things wrong that I know I should get right - after all, I just spent the better part of a year learning US military aviation.
User avatar #77 - serotonin (07/30/2014) [-]
2) you forgot sweden, switzerland, Ireland (and bunch of axis)
#32 - comradewinter (07/30/2014) [-]
Also:

United States Air Force: 5600 Aircraft
United States Navy: 3700 Aircraft
Russian Air Force: 3500 Aircraft

www.flightglobal.com/airspace/media/reports_pdf/world-air-forces-2014-108161.aspx
#28 - comradewinter (07/30/2014) [-]
1) Everyone was tired of the war, and the fresh reinforcements made the German government reconsider their chances of winning the war. There are also Woodrow Wilson's 10 bulletins, which persuaded them into thinking the war reparations would be just, which didn't happen. It was purely psychological, but if you know there is no chance of winning, you take what you can get.

2) They invaded knowing that if they spent more than 6 months from Stalingrad to Moscow, they would face the cold, harsh winter. If they had waited until the middle of January, they would be fighting in much better conditions. A war was inevitable, but stretching their soldiers thin on every line meant they couldn't win either.

3) War declaration is just words written on a piece of paper. When you invade another country, you are at war. Hence why they're called The Vietnam War and The Korean War rather than The Vietnam Scuffle and The Korean Barfight.

Also, South Vietnam and South Korea were both run by dictators. Communism is not a contradiction to democracy, it's the opposite of capitalism, which is what the US fought for. It's true that the wars were purely inspired by ideology, but then again, the rivalry between Nazi Germany and The Soviet Union were the same. Wars can happen for any reason. It's like saying The Crusades don't count as wars because they were inspired by religion.

So no, you're pretty off the bat, here.
#295 - confusedasian (07/31/2014) [-]
South Vietnam was never ran by a dictator, neither was the north. The north had a communist leader, the leader of the south was put in place by Americans.

#298 - comradewinter (07/31/2014) [-]
They were. Military Junta in the South, Ho Chi Minh to the North.
#306 - confusedasian (07/31/2014) [-]
Hi Chi Minh was loved by us. He was a great man that fought for Vietnamese independence. He fought the Chinese, French, and Americans. Though he turned to communism. Ngo Dinh Diem was a corrupt asshat. If it were a fair election people would have voted Ho Chi Minh in a landslide, but he was pro communisism and the US at the time was afraid of the domino effect. Ho and his supporters moved north. Americans placed Ngo as south leader. Even the anti communist south hated him and would have voted Minh.
#314 - comradewinter (07/31/2014) [-]
Ho Chi Minh was a dictator, but a fair one. Instead of turning to Stalinism as Kim Il-Sung and Mao did, he was a firm supporter of the original Leninist movement. Dictator doesn't constitute unjust actions. It's not uncommon during war times to place power within the hands of a few trusted people, because democracy is slow, albeit stable. I don't criticize autocratic governments, but it doesn't change the fact that dictators were in both states. Hence there wasn't a discussion about democracy or not, it was communism or capitalism.
#325 - confusedasian (07/31/2014) [-]
Dictator is single person. Communism is a single party of people. That's who he was. He was like Saddam Hussein of Vietnam. General asshole, but good at coming off as a good man. He wasn't ruling on his own he had a group/ party with him.
#331 - comradewinter (07/31/2014) [-]
It's impossible to be a dictator, and there has never been any true dictatorships in the world. Dictatorship basically means you have the power to make a decree and it will be followed with no questions asked. A state is still run on its own, but if the dictator decides that something should be done, it will be done. The Stalin era in the USSR was run after Stalin's wish, but it still had roads built and so forth without consulting the mustacheman. It's impossible to decide everything on your own.
#344 - confusedasian (07/31/2014) [-]
"Ho Chi Minh was a dictator, but a fair one"

"It's impossible to be a dictator"


This conversation is over. Good night.
#349 - comradewinter (07/31/2014) [-]
He was a dictator. Like I said, it's defined by the ability of a single person to decide everything. Therefore, he was a dictator, but most of the work (menial tasks) were handled by the party.
User avatar #517 - wrocky (07/31/2014) [-]
aw man i stopped reading here.. my brain could not take too much war info in a day.. will continue scrolling down another day thanks to everyone on the upper part of the thread i loved reading you guys go back and forth it's like an orgy of ideas and opinions make my brain deliberate by itself. i love u guize
User avatar #51 - aabbccddeeffgghhii (07/30/2014) [-]
Pretty off the bat here? Fine, let me show how you are incorrect/don't change any of the points I made.

1) You are correct, everyone was tired of war and that's why the Americans were brought in. That doesn't change the fact that the Americans were there only for the man power. They were only needed for meat to be shot at by the Germans. No political, strategic or any other help provided. Also, Lloyd George wanted to be lenient with the Germans, it was the French who pushed. So It wasn't JUST the Americans.

2) No, Germany could have won.... easily. Operation Barbarossa was very successful. Blitzkrieg wasn't as successful but the only thing that stopped them was the winter, i will give you that.

HOWEVER, when they resumed the fight with operation blue the fought to within 28 miles of Moscow and the only reason Stalin didn't flea to Mongolia was because he was a stubborn bastard. So despite the winter they still gained thousands of miles.

What lost the war for the Germans on the Eastern front was the attack on Stalingrad. Hitler dedicated his entire 6th Army to take insignificant city. There was no strategic value to the City, he only tried to take it because of the name. If he skipped Stalingrad he would have taken Moscow and then, by extension, Russia quite easily.

So whether they waited until better conditions didn't matter.

3) With regards to Korea: South Korea was run by an elected leader, where as North was not. So saying they both had Dictators is not true.

Also, when did I ever say Communism was a contradiction to democracy? You are putting words in my mouth. What i did say was that The wars in Vietnam and Korea were Ideological wars With Capitalism vs Communism. So stop putting words in my mouth, thanks.

So yes, I'm pretty much on the ball with what I said. Trust me, I'm a scientist.
User avatar #375 - forbesydemon (07/31/2014) [-]
As note to number 3 Hitler was also voted in, let us not forget that. Being voted in at the start doesn't mean you're incapable of being a dictator later. Hitler did use a whole lot of sketchy tactics to get into power but so have many past leaders.
But otherwise I agree with your points.
User avatar #348 - garymotherfingoak (07/31/2014) [-]
me too endophinsrage
#54 - endorphinsrage (07/30/2014) [-]
I like this guy
#53 - comradewinter (07/30/2014) [-]
You are still fairly wrong here:

1. Woodrow Wilson made assuring bulletins that made the Germans think they would get away easily. The Americans did everything they could to reconciliate, as they lost very few troops and saw massive trading opportunities with the Germans. So no, it wasn't just the Americans, it wasn't the Americans at all. The French, however, saw a good chance to break Germany for good.

2. You don't consider Barbarossa a success if you know anything about war. You can be in the lead in a football game until the last few minutes. You blow it, you lose. A war is determined by who wins in the end, and if an invasion fails, it remains a failure. Especially when you don't have sufficient countermeasures. Stalingrad was also important as it would secure their flanks. Because of the failed attempt to capture it, the Germans were swarmed from different angles.

3. There were also elections in the Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea and so forth. They do elect their leaders. Problem is, the leaders tend to do what they want. The South was mostly run by old mafia, so Syngman Rhee could do what he wanted. Hence why there was an uproar in 1960 to get rid of him for his autocratic regime and corruption. Russia today is far more democratic than South Korea was.

I misread the last bit, somehow. But yes, I agree on that. It was purely ideological. But that doesn't change the fact that they were wars. And no matter what reason you have to fight a war, it remains a war.
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User avatar #7 - soundofwinter ONLINE (06/20/2014) [-]
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