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#1481892 - I don't get how Doom works for demon warlocks. It's s… 08/24/2016 on Video Games 0
#167 - **Tyranitar used "*roll picture*"** **Tyranitar rolled image ** 08/24/2016 on Roll the hottest girl possible 0
#160 - I bet you weren't expectign THIS 08/24/2016 on Roll the hottest girl possible +1
#1481890 - The problem is that, in most games that utilize a tier list, c…  [+] (1 new reply) 08/24/2016 on Video Games 0
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#1481910 - eonofaeon (08/24/2016) [-]
...Most games that utilize a tier list also have multiple rounds and rules for how counter picking down (some have the winner pick first then loser, some force winner to stay on pick, etc.)

Not to mention the point is irrelevant.
1) I said 'tier lists' in OW are more to do, at the moment, with pick rates. www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/4yciha/overwatch_hero_meta_report_i_love_lucio/?st=is9fzbw8&sh=93dec457
Example.
2) To respond to 'how do you record the data'...the same way you record any other tier data. How well, in fights/compositions, does character A do against B. Find 1v1s, record team comps in full team fights n what/who changes, what the trends are for winning/losing. More work than fighting game tier lists? Yes. But hardly 'irrelevant' or 'impossible to know'.
3) Where one places on a tier directly correlates to their AVERAGE match up rating (Typically out of 10, 10 being guaranteed win if ur not retarded, 1 being better off suiciding). If marth had all 5.0 match ups, he'd be around C tier in Melee, since he's neither winning nor losing vs anyone so it all comes down to skill (in this hypothetical).
Meanwhile, say luigi has a 7.0, 2 6.5s, 3 5s, 15 4s, and 5 2s. That averages out to an average MU rating (if my math is correct here) of 4.03. Not great, but not total trash.
In a hypothetical OW tier list based on MUs, people would have to figure out formulas (or adapt them from other game tier lists) to account for fluid team dynamics, and how to factor in mathematical likelihoods of winning vs certain picks.
Probably easiest way is just 'If X on team, adjust dynamic MU to Z based on average of win %s vs current picks in enemy team comp' or something to that effect.

Make sense?
#61 - I was honestly kind of disappointed that he didn't react … 08/24/2016 on PRAISE TALOS! 0
#14 - Who says you can't wank with robot arms? You just have to keep…  [+] (1 new reply) 08/24/2016 on Penny Polendina: Cute or... 0
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#15 - Einsty (08/24/2016) [-]
software glitch
gears seize up
computer virus
a lot can go wrong

I'm not risking my dong just to fist a robot girl.
#74 - That was one of the bugs. He isn't supposed to do that. 08/24/2016 on Sad Genji +1
#64 - It's not even all nerfs. Two of them are bug fixes that Genji …  [+] (3 new replies) 08/24/2016 on Sad Genji +3
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#65 - mrmask (08/24/2016) [-]
they also removed his ability to double jump after a wall climb, so people who main Genji are salty cause he looses maneuverability, which as a flanker, is important to him
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#74 - Tyranitar (08/24/2016) [-]
That was one of the bugs. He isn't supposed to do that.
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#68 - malific (08/24/2016) [-]
That was the bug
#1481778 - Comeptitards are dragging tier lists into Overwatch now, lol …  [+] (4 new replies) 08/24/2016 on Video Games 0
#1481867 - eonofaeon (08/24/2016) [-]
Tier lists are made purely off how well/poorly a pick wins against other picks at pro level.
They aren't some fucking conspiracy by twats to be elitist for no reason.

That said, OW typically relies more on listing 'tiers' according to pick % than just saying "GENJI IS S TIER" or shit like that. They do record all data but order of prioritization is pick rate > win rate.
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#1481890 - Tyranitar (08/24/2016) [-]
The problem is that, in most games that utilize a tier list, character selection is final, and you don't ALWAYS know the picks of your opponents. In this game, you can switch freely, both before and after knowing your opponents' picks, and the characters are designed with the idea that one counters another.

So how do you record the data when you have a top-tier character who gets utterly countered by a low-tier character? Does the low one go up? High one go down?
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#1481910 - eonofaeon (08/24/2016) [-]
...Most games that utilize a tier list also have multiple rounds and rules for how counter picking down (some have the winner pick first then loser, some force winner to stay on pick, etc.)

Not to mention the point is irrelevant.
1) I said 'tier lists' in OW are more to do, at the moment, with pick rates. www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/4yciha/overwatch_hero_meta_report_i_love_lucio/?st=is9fzbw8&sh=93dec457
Example.
2) To respond to 'how do you record the data'...the same way you record any other tier data. How well, in fights/compositions, does character A do against B. Find 1v1s, record team comps in full team fights n what/who changes, what the trends are for winning/losing. More work than fighting game tier lists? Yes. But hardly 'irrelevant' or 'impossible to know'.
3) Where one places on a tier directly correlates to their AVERAGE match up rating (Typically out of 10, 10 being guaranteed win if ur not retarded, 1 being better off suiciding). If marth had all 5.0 match ups, he'd be around C tier in Melee, since he's neither winning nor losing vs anyone so it all comes down to skill (in this hypothetical).
Meanwhile, say luigi has a 7.0, 2 6.5s, 3 5s, 15 4s, and 5 2s. That averages out to an average MU rating (if my math is correct here) of 4.03. Not great, but not total trash.
In a hypothetical OW tier list based on MUs, people would have to figure out formulas (or adapt them from other game tier lists) to account for fluid team dynamics, and how to factor in mathematical likelihoods of winning vs certain picks.
Probably easiest way is just 'If X on team, adjust dynamic MU to Z based on average of win %s vs current picks in enemy team comp' or something to that effect.

Make sense?
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#1481791 - averagewhitekid (08/24/2016) [-]
Where's a posting of one of these, I'd like to get a quick laugh today
#41 - Nope, it's Yomiel  [+] (2 new replies) 08/24/2016 on Tasty Souls ! +1
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#51 - nyiagh (08/24/2016) [-]
P.S.: SPOILER didnt want to spoiler
#50 - nyiagh (08/24/2016) [-]
I'm binge listening to the game's music for weeks now. Send immediate help