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Who the fuck are the cops fighting for? The State? The People? Definitely not the latter because the just shot the dude for stealing COUGH SYRUP. Police are people when they go home but while they're on duty there supposed to be peace-KEEPERS not peace-MAKERS.
Teen gets shot and all of a sudden everyone and their mother is playing devil's advocate for a murder. IDGAF about his race, if a fully-trained ADULT cop doesn't know how to end the situation in anyway that DOES NOT involve killing a minor, I'm baffled to be honest.
Cops have to think on their feet most of the time but that doesn't automatically mean they become judge jury and executioner. USE A TASER FFS THEY GIVE IT TO YOU FOR A REASON.
I don't see how this is defendable, cops are to be held to a higher standard because any mistake they make can lead to unnecessary suffering. jfc
You are getting too deep into holistics here. It's actually pretty simple.
The reason he got shot is because he played a very dangerous gambit where he pretended to have a gun and was betting the cop would pussy out. He lost and got shot.
The police officer had no intention of dying that day and responded in a way every single one of us would have; When the chips fall and shit hits the fan shoot first and ask questions later.
tl;dr - It's the suspects fault he was shot
You dumb faggot. If the nigga actually had a gun and killed the cop, would you be this angry or just some libtard spouting some BS from a bandwagon you hopped on?
>some libtard spouting some BS from a bandwagon you hopped on?
>having this little self-awareness
When will you wake up to the idea that it's not the people vs each other but us vs. the state? Your government doesn't care for you. But you will get on your knees for them because ruh-roh the darkies are being violent again. Please, wake the fuck up your being manipulated by fear.
...You should move to Congo... Youd be happy there ... No police, no real laws. Only militia! Heaven on earth for little anarchist like yourself ...
Way to dodge my question, queermosexual.
Get off the board, you're making Canadians look bad.
>shot the dude for stealing COUGH SYRUP
No they didn't, they shot him because he tricked them into thinking he had a gun and was split-seconds away from killing the cop. So the cop shot first because he doesn't want to die. Same can't be said for the moron. If he didn't want to die he wouldn't have pretended to have a gun, nor would he have made the motion to shoot the cop.
Are you a sociopath, because your complete lack of ability to see things from the cop's perspective is astounding.
Your a sociopath for believing this is justified.
NEWSFLASH: They always have to think on their feet.
You do a job day in and day out knowing it could be you last so what do you do?
Always come prepared to de-escalate? No.
How about draw your weapon that's supposed to be used as a LAST RESORT? Yes, apparently.
>beligerant maniac draws his gun on you and is less than a second away from shooting you dead
Please explain how to de-escalate the situation from that point.
He had a choice to draw either but whoop-de-doo he chose the latter because cops have the full legal support of the state on thier side vs. us plebian workers
Not all cops carry tasers, and he's clearly not holding a taser in the video, so how do you expect him to put away his gun and draw a taser and fire it in less than 0.5 seconds?
Keep in mind that tasers also don't instantly incapacitate; if someone's about shoot you, using a taser is a gamble with the odds stacked in their favour. Taser effectiveness is also decreased if the target is hopped up on drugs, which is what you expect the criminal to be when they think drawing a gun on you is a good idea.
On the other hand the impact of a bullet typically staggers the target enough that if you've shot first, you'll remain safe.
Also let's not get away from the root of the issue, and that is that the criminal pretended he had a gun and tried to shoot the cop. I don't understand how you can possibly try to defend this behaviour and be over the age of twelve. If you try to shoot someone else, you're ready to die. As far as the cop knew, that moron was ready to shoot him.
How do i expect him to put away his gun and draw his taser? You should be asking yourself why a man in blue, whose supposed to be our guardians, drew a lethal weapon above the safer alternative in the first place. Does he value his life more than the people he protects? That would seem to be the case.
White teen-> gets uppity with cop-> charges him-> gets shot to death.
What was this cop afraid of? His life, so he shot a youth in cold blood. ffs they're supposed to be protecting US the people but in reality, most cops only look out for each other. That's the mentality soldiers have in foreign territory i don't want that for my domestic task force.
I'm not defending someone who acts brash with the law, I take issue with how the inference is dealt with. Making a bold move with a cop is stupid and inexcusable, but death shouldn't be the default punishment .
>whose supposed to be our guardians
So a guy with a gun who's resisting arrest isn't a threat to public safety? Are you serious dude?
And the video you posted, how in god's name do you figure that the cop is at fault there? The teen refused to comply with the officer endlessly, and then attacked the officer. The taser LITERALLY DID NOT WORK in that situation, and if you watch the whole video, you see the bleeding on the cop's face and the paramedic mentions an injury on the back of his head too. Was the cop just supposed to let the teen murder him there on the side of the highway, or was he going to defend his life by taking the life of a violent criminal? The cop 100% made the right decision in both of these scenarios.
And yes, the cops are going to protect their own lives from violent criminals rather than give their lives so that someone gets away with murder and runs free, possibly putting more lives in danger. That makes sense, good point.
Cops should just ALLOW for criminals to kill them! Of course!
There are such things as threats to public safety, a murderer, a kidnapper, a rapist, but two teens committing petty crimes is NOT one of them, so why are they dealt with in the same fashion?
The taser didn't work as the video explains because the cop was too close, how a trained officer would not be taught this in training is beyond me but nevertheless, you are insisting that an angsty teen vs a fully- grown adult poses any serious threat to his safety? Policemen are taught how to restrict a suspect in various holds for varying situations but once again the poorly trained officer callously resorts to his gun after only one attempt to safely disengage the situation.
>Cops should just ALLOW for criminals to kill them! Of course!
They are teens for the last time, what are they gonna do? sissy-slap them to death? One has months of training on the other in hand-to-hand combat like that will ever happen.
In the real world, violence confrontations can go in literally any direction, REGARDLESS of skill, size, or power. As you see in that video, the teen got the jump on the officer and caused serious injuries to his head. All it takes is for one idiot to get lucky with where is fist lands and the bigger, more skilled combatant could die, and that's the end of it.
And as already established in regards to the first video in the content, as far the cop knew, the guy had a gun. No, he was not going to sissy-slap the cop to death, he was going to shoot the cop to death. Why the fuck would the cop not shoot him first?
I'd also like to point out that "ooh but they're just teens" literally has no bearing on the argument, as puberty is finished by about age 16 at the latest. I highly doubt the 17-year-old is still going through the growth period from child to adult. Physically, the "kid" is an adult.
You keep pointing to the officers wounds as justification but they were very superficial "small abrasion to the back of the head" AKA a scratch. His employers have to transport him to the hospital regardless if a band-aid would do because hey might as well not be sued.
I'm not sure where you're getting the idea puberty ends in boys at 16, "16yr old beats up 25yr old" that's pretty likely to never happen.
Once again, my entire argument is that if cops can't de-escalate a situation as simple as this then we either need to provide more thorough training for them or up the standards for admission into the academy in the first place. Your Canadian too so you should see the difference we have vs the states. I once toured a police station as a kid with my dad. They said guns are a last resort. I don't see this mirrored in the real world more often then not, and it's sad.
>"16yr old beats up 25yr old" that's pretty likely to never happen.
I just did a google search of "teen kills adult" and randomly picked some stuff off of the first page of results. Reality check.
"small abrasion tot he back of the head" doesn't account for internal damage, and you're intentionally ignoring the large amount of blood on his face.
Once again, my entire argument is that HOW THE FUCK YOU EXPECT SOMEONE TO DEESCELATE A SITUATION FROM "I'm half a second away from getting shot" OR "there's a guy on top of me beating the shit out of my face"?
Guns are a last resort, but because of sensationalized media, nobody's reporting on police confrontations that are de-escalated properly and have a peaceful resolution, because that doesn't bring revenue to the news companies. FAR more police encounters are resolved peacefully, otherwise the streets all over the world would be literally covered in dead bodies because each cop stops multiple people per day. If every one of those encounters ended violently, THEN we'd have a problem, but we're nowhere close to that point being even so much as even a far-off dream as it is.
The age discrepancies in those links are pretty large, in the cases where a weapon wasn't used the victims were as old as 60yrs old, the younger person has the advantage in those specific instances. I'm talking about situations more in tune with the two cases we were talking about, adult cop mid-20s to early 30's against an assailant as old as 19. A cop has more training combat-oriented training than a Utah staff member would obviously.
>How do you expect someone to de-escalate a situation from "I'm half a second away from getting shot" OR "there's a guy on top of me beating the shit out of my face"?
>FAR more police encounters are resolved peacefully, otherwise the streets all over the world would be literally covered in dead bodies because each cop stops multiple people per day.
haha I agree with both those on some degree. I think ultimately our difference of opinion is in our outlook, should cop killings be treated as an unavoidable accident or with a zero-tolerance policy? I'm for the latter, Because there is always something that could be improved on, or to learn from. In the first case I really do believe reaching for the taser would have worked, he clearly had enough time to draw it judging by how he enters frame with the weapon fully drawn out at arms length.
This is all moot anyways because I'm seeing a lot of people implying the first kid was trying to commit suicide by cop, which seems likely by how he walks towards the cop so deliberately.
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