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|#13 - yes but this graph still holds some merit of truth in the way … [+] (11 new replies)||05/11/2012 on Christian Dark Ages||-2|
#18 - tolikbro (05/11/2012) [-]
My issue with this picture is not that people are hating on Christianity - that is your right and decision. It is that nobody bothers to check their facts before coming to a conclusion. It is well known that many great minds were some kind of christian therefore belief in God does not equal lack of scientific progress. Also, a simple google search will show that during the times during which there was no progress, 500 AD through 1500 AD, there were plenty of scientific discoveries and progress.
#19 - Thescottman (05/11/2012) [-]
as you said read
"there was next to or no scientific progress"
and from the picture we are talking about Christian maybe only Anglo saxon or any other cultures that they may have been in contact with namely the crusades 11th 12th 13th (minus 11th century as none of the findings actually come during or after the crusades) century so taken that i cut anything that actually had a name that was not of Anglo Saxon heritage before that time and here are the things they learnt:
1121 – Al-Khazini: variation of gravitation and gravitational potential energy at a distance; the decrease of air density with altitude
Ibn Bajjah (Avempace): discovery of reaction (precursor to Newton's third law of motion)
Hibat Allah Abu'l-Barakat al-Baghdaadi (Nathanel): relationship between force and acceleration (a vague foreshadowing of a fundamental law of classical mechanics and a precursor to Newton's second law of motion)
Averroes: relationship between force, work and kinetic energy
1220–1235 – Robert Grosseteste: rudimentals of the scientific method (see also: Roger Bacon)
1242 – Ibn al-Nafis: pulmonary circulation and circulatory system
Theodoric of Freiberg: correct explanation of rainbow phenomenon
William of Saint-Cloud: pioneering use of camera obscura to view solar eclipsesBefore 1327 – William of Ockham: Occam's Razor
Oxford Calculators: the mean speed theorem
Jean Buridan: theory of impetus
Nicole Oresme: discovery of the curvature of light through atmospheric refraction1494 - Luca Pacioli: first codification of the Double-entry bookkeeping system, which slowly developed in previous centuries
from that they learnt but they didn't expand which is actually said in the graph where it doesn't just have a gap within history saying absolutely nothing was learnt
#34 - 2scared2login (05/11/2012) [-]
I didn't read that, but it looked real smart, so I'll thumb it up.
#22 - tolikbro (05/11/2012) [-]
I disagree. I would also like to point out that with science, certain discoveries aren't possible without others coming first. For example, we could not advance quantum theory without first realizing that there exist atomic and subatomic particles. So saying that progress before the dark ages was at a higher level and then dropped down is wrong. It would be more accurate to say that progress stagnated during that time, but that wasn't the case.
#55 - 2scared2login (05/11/2012) [-]
The reason why that graph is made that way is due to the Christian Churches. They would, in fact, scorn many scientific discoveries and attempt to prevent them.
This lead to loss of knowledge, and science development actually decreasing at certain points. Quite a trick to pull off.
Of course, some did advance later on. But at first, it was brought down by the churches. Questioning God back then was a sin punishable by death.
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