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- I don't get it.
- I seriously don't get the whole "out ancestors were immig…
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What theyre (I think/hope) referring to is this idea that all of a sudden you have gatekeepers who declare these people "not american"
Even the ones born on american soil
And the question then devolves into "where is the arbitrary line drawn where this many generations in the country marks you as a native vs too few generations marks you as a foreigner still"
But it only counts to those people who would declare american-born descendants of immigrants non-american, and it applies to other countries (see that one pic of an arab born in sweden versus a mouse born in a stable even though stables dont work that way) but it applies to america more because most, if not all of you, can trace your lineage back to within a century or so as coming from somewhere else, and I guess the pertinent question is by how many generations do
qualify as an american
atleast that's what I would bring that argument up for
and I typically dont so
>Dutch plundered everything not nailed down
Forgetting a pretty important part of your nation's history, are we?
- Sweden brings great shame upon itself. Its viking (in everythi…
Also, apologies for the minor rant.
The ancestors of the Swedes actually were vikings, but a large amount of them were more merchants than they were Vikings. Documents of their trading partners detail how some of them knew seven languages and traveling down to rome. They were later trained and returned with the techniques, which is why you can see roman formations towards the end of the viking age. It's rather logical as to why they favored becoming merchants, Sweden has numerous mines with high quality iron, meaning swords, lances, arrows, you name it. This meant that those that needed to plunder would either buy equipment, or buy the metal to be able to forge it themselves.
That's not to say that the swedish vikings didn't raid and plunder, they did, but they were were very planned out, as Birka, besides having more gold than the rest of the north combined, they had a flourishing slave trade, as can be see from numerous burial grounds around the town. Those were actually discovered very recently.
The way a person in the north became a viking was simple. A father of a farm would have several sons. The eldest would get the farm, some of the spots could either be filled by some of the younger brothers or everyone but the eldest would stay. The rest of them would venture out into the world and raid. However, a popular destination was to guard the trade routes, forming to so called Varangian Guard. Historical records state that so many swedes immigrated to those areas that punishments started being dished out to keep them in Sweden. One of the swedish families that moved there was the Rus family. Being successful, they made a name for themselves throughout, ending with their cheif becoming proclaimed king. That is how Russia was established.
Why birka got so rich was also easy to figure out. The danish and the norwegian would go there to buy equipment and then would return after their raid to sell what they plundered. I have no idea what you mean by "anything but name". The ancestors were vikings in every sense of the word.
As for mourning, I'd say they would feel great shame as a majority of the politicians are betraying their honor in favor of monterary gain as their countrymen suffers under their incompetence. Instead of adressing the problem, anyone who voices their discontent publicly gets fired and getting a job is extremely difficult. But hey, given a year, we will most likely turn it around, voting for SD, the only party that dares to move with logic in mind.
First of all, the Varangian Guard were the personal bodyguards of the Byzantine Emperor. Varangian being the Greek name for vikings.
As to the Rus "family", I assume you are referring to Rurik and the subsequent Rurikid dynasty, who founded the Kievan Rus'. The Rus' people in turn potentially having their named derived from Roslagen.
They didn't start as the personal guard initially though, did they? Correct me if I'm wrong. I remember they gathered there and showed their prowess in battle and was later picked up as a personal guard due to their effectiveness in battle. Because the Kievan Rus was created about 80 years later. The first instance of a viking raid was in the 8th of june in 792 where they raided the Lindisfarne monastery on the englands east coast. It would take another 20 years after the creation of the Kievan Rus for them to become an elite unit of the Byzantine Army.
As for "family". I struggled to translate the swedish word "Ätt". I suppose "Tribe" could fit, but it was more structured than a tribe and most notably, larger. But yes, I have looked through those sources previously. Many sources also state that there is an extremely high probability of the Rus family being the ones who lived in Roslagen. I've read other sources that makes the likelihood even more probabable, I'd probably spend time linking it later, because I don't remember the sources of that one at the top of my head.
I just need to get to an early meeting today and can't dedicate all that much time discussing history on the internet in favor of that. However, I do enjoy doing it, so I could potentially look up those tomorow or the day after that.
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