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Now what you're counting on by not pulling is that the blue guy also didn't pull because you want the best outcome of your choice no matter what choice that is. Self preservation is a massive benefit sure but if we are assuming that we are dealing with two rational people they will want to save themselves and the maximum amount of bystanders.
This incidentally is where the chicken dilemma differs the most from the prisoners dilemma because the prisoners dilemma is pretty much the choice between self preservation and group preservation but this dilemma makes it group V.S. group it's two people who want to save themselves and the maximum amount of people.
I feel like given the fact that I couldn't entirely understand your argument and that I am thinking of the question more philosophically and you're thinking of it more from a mathematical standpoint that you probably won.
In prisoners Dilemma we assume the people are rational agents, would self preservation not be considered rational?
What if we switch this to values, where each stranger had a value of (1), negated if killed, but the rational agent had a value (5) to themselves , negated if they are killed, and a (1), negated if the other agent kills them.
Referring to the fancily drawn pic related, the best option is both pull, however, with each rational agent valuing their life more than the negative they'd take if they both pulled (5>4), they will both not pull.
I admit, it's a bit of a stretch now that i think about it, but i still think it fits.
Also, forgive me, it's been a while since i took my Game Theory class.
Now what you're counting on by not pulling is that the blue guy also didn't pull because you want the best outcome of your choice no matter what choice that is. Self preservation is a massive benefit sure but if we are assuming that we are dealing with two rational people they will want to save themselves and the maximum amount of bystanders.
This incidentally is where the chicken dilemma differs the most from the prisoners dilemma because the prisoners dilemma is pretty much the choice between self preservation and group preservation but this dilemma makes it group V.S. group it's two people who want to save themselves and the maximum amount of people.
I feel like given the fact that I couldn't entirely understand your argument and that I am thinking of the question more philosophically and you're thinking of it more from a mathematical standpoint that you probably won.
Why is Zero Escape not more popular?
I guess what I'm trying to say is that throughout the whole series, everything is right in your face, and you don't realize it until they tie everything together, and ZTD is no different. I'd argue that they did it as well, if not better than VLR. It had a spectacular story that managed to tie in both 999 and VLR. While the overall conclusion wasn't "perfect", it was more than enough to leave me satisfied.
Also, Junpei and Akane actually got together in this new timeline, so that's pretty neat.
Speaking of which, I hated Junpei in the beginning cause he turned into such a fucking asshole, even more than when he was an old man. He started softening up again and I liked him. My friend and I actually had a joke where when Team D was in the shower to press the button, Sigma would just say, "Fuck Junpei." and press the button. I also found the "DO NOT PRESS" scene pretty hilarious.
I'm still not sure how to feel about Delta... It was such a huge surprise... Reading about it online he was HEAVILY foreshadowed but it still felt like it came out of complete left field. Of all things in the Zero Escape franchise I think they explained Delta the worst. I understand his motivation, but how did he get this motivation? Unless he read the mind of Sigma and Diana when he was born then how did he know anything in order to set up this elaborate game? How did he know that 8 billion people were going to die to a terrorist attack, so he organised the death of 6 billion in order to save the final 2 billion? Not knowing the answer to these questions are what make me feel unsure about the conclusion of Zero Escape.