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#18404 - marinepenguin (09/26/2014) [-]
Steroids get a bad rap, a ton of bodybuilders cycle steroids correctly like they should and see amazing results with no side effects. The guys you see that are all pimply and angry either reacted really badly to steroids and shouldn't take them, or they abuse them heavily and use them improperly.
Creatine isn't a steroid either, it's actually used and created in your body naturally.
#18421 - jokerjack (09/26/2014) [-]
You're on about the steroids. When done absolutely perfectly and well informed, people can get major results with very little if any side effects. But the risks of a non-expert using them are astronomical to the point that if a person is asking a question about them on a site like this it's better off to tell them they'll just get kidney failure and stomach ulcers, which is the most likely outcome of a person without essentially a mentor taking them
And creatine isn't actually made in the body. It's found in red meat (and some fish species) and used very effectively inside the body. But a person would have to eat something like 2-2.5 pounds of red meat a day to get creatine in the levels the body uses optimally, so you may as well just take a 5 gram supplement
In conclusion, it's a naturally occurring compound, but in such small amounts that supplementation to the diet is often needed.
#18422 - marinepenguin (09/26/2014) [-]
Well I just hate how everyone believes that doing steroids will shrink your junk, make you angry, give you pimples, and build mountains of muscle with no effort. When that is not how it works in any shape or form. It's just because of the anti-juicing campaigns of the 90's and early 00's that everyone believes they're horrible.
And really? I have done my fair share of research so I'm not sure how I came to that conclusion. I knew that it was found in red meats, and I know how it works, I had just assumed that we created a small amount on our own. It's still just a natural compound that our bodies interact with even without any supplementation, and it's amazing how many people believe that it's truly a steroid.
I've really considered taking it, but I'm honestly not trying to build as much mass at this current moment.
#18605 - jokerjack (09/29/2014) [-]
Really? Mind sending me the source? I googled quick to double that check my assumption was right before I replied to you the first time and I just found a lot of stuff about red meat (although this was when I learned about certain fish as well). Would like to know if I was off. Thanks
And yeah, I knew about the ATP. A few small sample size studies without a placebo showed a slight increase in power and stamina during fasted lifting when the body had been taking creatine for over a week, nothing confirmed by any means but that on top of the known repair aspects was what led me to start taking it when I was lifting early before work and dropping 15 pounds at the beginning of last summer.
Oh yep. Just found it by searching a few different terms. My mistake marinepenguin, thank you. Here's a nice overview of it from University of Maryland's medical center
Although the loading aspect they have in there I have seen debunked by a few other studies. Can re-dig those up if you'd like. The loading type dates back to other "research" funded by the supplement companies also talking about how getting protein within 30 mins of working out was crucial in gains. They just get to sell more product this way.
#18612 - jokerjack (09/29/2014) [-]
No no no. I didn't take that as belitting at all. I learned something today. Thank you. Any blame is placed on me for correcting you when I was infact wrong, and then starting off my message as a little skeptical but still open in my phrasing. You were right, I was wrong. Thanks. Now I'm curious as to what comparable dietary gram amount the body can produce. May do a little digging after I get this damn essay written
#18615 - jokerjack (09/29/2014) [-]
"Really? Mind sending me the source?" <- in hindsight that sounds like me being a total dick, ready to rip into you for being wrong but not quite yet unless you can validate your stance. Haha
I play the "prove it" card too often when someone has an opinion or observation online about something
#18581 - marinepenguin (09/29/2014) [-]
Well, not true. Creatine is used to help turn ADP back into ATP so that you have more energy during your workouts. It also helps flood your muscles with water, allowing them to have more tension and lift more weight. Lifting more weights during your workouts creates a higher stress on your body, which forces your body to adapt more quickly to those stresses. It doesn't help repair the fibers or aid recovery (at least to my knowledge), but it helps you push your muscles beyond what they could normally do.
#18430 - jokerjack (09/27/2014) [-]
yeah. It's just something found in natural foods, but in too small of amounts (as compared to what our bodies can handle) so we supplement. I think most view it like whey protein or any of the athelete vitamin packs. Creatine just increases the amount of water flowing into the muscles, and therefore the nurtients, which helps recovery and lets you workout a little more without being quite so tired. I've actually had better results with it keeping energy and lifts up while eating at a deficit to burn fat. I really think it helped out my doms in the weight room I was getting from not eating as much as my body wanted me to.