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#12 - Damn son, you're one of those bad kids and you're completely unaware. 08/19/2016 on How to Tell if You Are on a... +2
#108 - She pulled off extremely complex flight maneuvers throughout t…  [+] (1 new reply) 08/12/2016 on Star Wars: Rogue One Story... 0
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#112 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
>She pulled off extremely complex flight maneuvers throughout the flight. And managed to due an extremely difficult mind trick easily.

And yet she still nearly crashed and she had to try the mind trick thing again in order to get it to work. You know who did a mind trick perfectly the first time? Luke. Through out the original trilogy, Luke never...exactly trained with that shit, he just did some PT, tried to raise an X-wing, raised a couple of rocks onto each other, lifted R2-D2, and mostly did shit with telekinesis and his lightsaber, nothing complex as using a mind trick, and for all we know what he did with Yoda in episode V could have taken a week or a month, and we know he never went back to Dagobah until Episode VI, which happens a year later.

>A good thing would have been when she comes into her force power she uses a massive force push to basically blow out her room. Allowing her to escape like we've seen in other star wars movies and games.

No, that would have been just as bad. Not to mention, it would have just gotten her killed.

>And with the fight with kylo ren it would have been much more interesting if she lost but someone saved her at the last second like poe or chewy. Or rather if she had to beat him I would have rather seen her use her newly acquired force powers to blast him back far enough to escape with finn while kylo is forced to escape because the planets imploding.

Actually I agree, it would have been neater.
#106 - Oh my god dude how are you not getting the basics here. You'v…  [+] (1 new reply) 08/12/2016 on Star Wars: Rogue One Story... +1
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#109 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
>Oh my god dude how are you not getting the basics here. You've completely missed my point. A MOVIE SHOULD NOT RELY ON A BOOK OR COMIC OUTSIDE THE MOVIE TO JUSTIFY A CHARACTER'S SKILLS. How hard is it to grasp that. Just try to imagine that only the movies exist and that's it. And you might say HURR DURR but the comics do exist. But you're missing my point the movie series is what I'm talking about and its not explained shes simply good at everything literally mary sue.

Then that's your problem. When I talk about the series, I'm not only considering the movies, I believe everything matters, which it does, regardless of your opinion.

>I bet you think the prequels were great to and Anakin wasn't completely mary sure either because of the expanded universe or some shit.

No, anakin was a mary sue, and a lot of the shit he did was bullshit as well. Especially the whole, getting into a naboo starfighter and blowing up a fucking trade federation ship thing. However I believe that's canceled out due to the fact that he ended up falling to the dark side.

>It's easy to go back and right 16 books justifying why are how a character can do something, but thats shitty writing.

I'm pretty sure the book that explained this shit, actually came out a month before the movie. Or maybe it was the day of.
#104 - You've obviously never worked in scrap have you? You don't hav…  [+] (3 new replies) 08/12/2016 on Star Wars: Rogue One Story... 0
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#107 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
She's not instantly good though. Again she nearly crashed the falcon during the escape, missed a couple of shots with the pistol Han gave her, and she failed her first mind trick attempt, hell it wasn't even really a fair fight with Kylo Ren, since the nigga got shot with a wookiee crossbow, something we've seen in the film itself to send people flying the moment they get hit with the bolt, he just murdered his father thinking it would cut his ties to the light side of the force, when it obviously didn't, and even then all she was really doing until he got her over the cliff was hold him back and even then after that she just started wailing at him like a goddamn child, grabbed his wrist and then got in a couple of lucky shots in.
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#108 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
She pulled off extremely complex flight maneuvers throughout the flight. And managed to due an extremely difficult mind trick easily. A good thing would have been when she comes into her force power she uses a massive force push to basically blow out her room. Allowing her to escape like we've seen in other star wars movies and games. That would have been interesting. And with the fight with kylo ren it would have been much more interesting if she lost but someone saved her at the last second like poe or chewy. Or rather if she had to beat him I would have rather seen her use her newly acquired force powers to blast him back far enough to escape with finn while kylo is forced to escape because the planets imploding.

Don't get me wrong there are many many more problems with the film that I could go on about, but were just talking about Rey right now.
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#112 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
>She pulled off extremely complex flight maneuvers throughout the flight. And managed to due an extremely difficult mind trick easily.

And yet she still nearly crashed and she had to try the mind trick thing again in order to get it to work. You know who did a mind trick perfectly the first time? Luke. Through out the original trilogy, Luke never...exactly trained with that shit, he just did some PT, tried to raise an X-wing, raised a couple of rocks onto each other, lifted R2-D2, and mostly did shit with telekinesis and his lightsaber, nothing complex as using a mind trick, and for all we know what he did with Yoda in episode V could have taken a week or a month, and we know he never went back to Dagobah until Episode VI, which happens a year later.

>A good thing would have been when she comes into her force power she uses a massive force push to basically blow out her room. Allowing her to escape like we've seen in other star wars movies and games.

No, that would have been just as bad. Not to mention, it would have just gotten her killed.

>And with the fight with kylo ren it would have been much more interesting if she lost but someone saved her at the last second like poe or chewy. Or rather if she had to beat him I would have rather seen her use her newly acquired force powers to blast him back far enough to escape with finn while kylo is forced to escape because the planets imploding.

Actually I agree, it would have been neater.
#103 - Think about it this way, the Lord of Rings movies function as…  [+] (3 new replies) 08/12/2016 on Star Wars: Rogue One Story... +1
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#105 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
Okay, but star wars isn't a closed series, as far as I know. Every thing you're bitching about is explained in the canon and you're sitting here arguing with me about how she's a mary sue and how the writers somehow fucked up because they didn't spoon-feed you the character's backstory and explain why she's able to do all this shit. Hell, despite the flight simulation crap, she still nearly crashed the falcon multiple times during that escape scene, It's not exactly a perfect escape.
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#106 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
Oh my god dude how are you not getting the basics here. You've completely missed my point. A MOVIE SHOULD NOT RELY ON A BOOK OR COMIC OUTSIDE THE MOVIE TO JUSTIFY A CHARACTER'S SKILLS. How hard is it to grasp that. Just try to imagine that only the movies exist and that's it. And you might say HURR DURR but the comics do exist. But you're missing my point the movie series is what I'm talking about and its not explained shes simply good at everything literally mary sue.

I bet you think the prequels were great to and Anakin wasn't completely mary sure either because of the expanded universe or some shit.

It's easy to go back and right 16 books justifying why are how a character can do something, but thats shitty writing.
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#109 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
>Oh my god dude how are you not getting the basics here. You've completely missed my point. A MOVIE SHOULD NOT RELY ON A BOOK OR COMIC OUTSIDE THE MOVIE TO JUSTIFY A CHARACTER'S SKILLS. How hard is it to grasp that. Just try to imagine that only the movies exist and that's it. And you might say HURR DURR but the comics do exist. But you're missing my point the movie series is what I'm talking about and its not explained shes simply good at everything literally mary sue.

Then that's your problem. When I talk about the series, I'm not only considering the movies, I believe everything matters, which it does, regardless of your opinion.

>I bet you think the prequels were great to and Anakin wasn't completely mary sure either because of the expanded universe or some shit.

No, anakin was a mary sue, and a lot of the shit he did was bullshit as well. Especially the whole, getting into a naboo starfighter and blowing up a fucking trade federation ship thing. However I believe that's canceled out due to the fact that he ended up falling to the dark side.

>It's easy to go back and right 16 books justifying why are how a character can do something, but thats shitty writing.

I'm pretty sure the book that explained this shit, actually came out a month before the movie. Or maybe it was the day of.
#99 - It's called a character arc, having a scene or two devoted to …  [+] (5 new replies) 08/12/2016 on Star Wars: Rogue One Story... +1
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#102 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
And that's where we get the scene where finn picks up many little components while she's in the floor trying to fix something and she has to point it out multiple times.

Logically speaking if a scavenger's working with mechanical parts, chances are that scavenger probably knows how they work. But no, everything has to be spoonfed to the audience within two hours, no?
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#104 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
You've obviously never worked in scrap have you? You don't have to know how a piece of machinery works in order to grasp that it could be valuable. For example I could see a v8 engine and assume its worth money, doesn't mean I know how to fix and assembly a fucking engine.

Its not spoonfeeding, its developing a character and a backstory, but no lets just have all our characters instantly good at everything they do and never have any short comings or character. Ha characters without character. That soounds an awful lot like the chosen one, no?
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#107 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
She's not instantly good though. Again she nearly crashed the falcon during the escape, missed a couple of shots with the pistol Han gave her, and she failed her first mind trick attempt, hell it wasn't even really a fair fight with Kylo Ren, since the nigga got shot with a wookiee crossbow, something we've seen in the film itself to send people flying the moment they get hit with the bolt, he just murdered his father thinking it would cut his ties to the light side of the force, when it obviously didn't, and even then all she was really doing until he got her over the cliff was hold him back and even then after that she just started wailing at him like a goddamn child, grabbed his wrist and then got in a couple of lucky shots in.
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#108 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
She pulled off extremely complex flight maneuvers throughout the flight. And managed to due an extremely difficult mind trick easily. A good thing would have been when she comes into her force power she uses a massive force push to basically blow out her room. Allowing her to escape like we've seen in other star wars movies and games. That would have been interesting. And with the fight with kylo ren it would have been much more interesting if she lost but someone saved her at the last second like poe or chewy. Or rather if she had to beat him I would have rather seen her use her newly acquired force powers to blast him back far enough to escape with finn while kylo is forced to escape because the planets imploding.

Don't get me wrong there are many many more problems with the film that I could go on about, but were just talking about Rey right now.
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#112 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
>She pulled off extremely complex flight maneuvers throughout the flight. And managed to due an extremely difficult mind trick easily.

And yet she still nearly crashed and she had to try the mind trick thing again in order to get it to work. You know who did a mind trick perfectly the first time? Luke. Through out the original trilogy, Luke never...exactly trained with that shit, he just did some PT, tried to raise an X-wing, raised a couple of rocks onto each other, lifted R2-D2, and mostly did shit with telekinesis and his lightsaber, nothing complex as using a mind trick, and for all we know what he did with Yoda in episode V could have taken a week or a month, and we know he never went back to Dagobah until Episode VI, which happens a year later.

>A good thing would have been when she comes into her force power she uses a massive force push to basically blow out her room. Allowing her to escape like we've seen in other star wars movies and games.

No, that would have been just as bad. Not to mention, it would have just gotten her killed.

>And with the fight with kylo ren it would have been much more interesting if she lost but someone saved her at the last second like poe or chewy. Or rather if she had to beat him I would have rather seen her use her newly acquired force powers to blast him back far enough to escape with finn while kylo is forced to escape because the planets imploding.

Actually I agree, it would have been neater.
#97 - A movie should not have to rely on outside sources to justify …  [+] (12 new replies) 08/12/2016 on Star Wars: Rogue One Story... +2
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#100 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
And the outside universe is the actual universe. Your opinion, regarding whether it does or not, doesn't matter.

Everything regarding star wars matters unless it's stated to be non-canon by lucasfilm. This is, again, why the books, the comics, The games, the TV shows, etc are considered definite canon that is on the same tier as the movies.
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#103 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
Think about it this way, the Lord of Rings movies function as a closed series although they are based on books and have many games, comics and so on describing characters and expanding the universe. There isn't a scene where Frodo picks up a sword for the first time and instantly defeats all the wraiths, he fails and gets stabbed and that's ok because it provides character development.

Failure is an important part of a story and its important for characters. Failure allows for characters to grow and develop, and to eventually overcome the trial that had bested them before. Character development comes from failure. Having a character that's instantly good at everything they do means they don't have to develop and grow. Then having to go write books and comics outside the actual story to justify this person being instantly good at everything means you're a shitty writer and your character is shitty, flat and boring.
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#105 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
Okay, but star wars isn't a closed series, as far as I know. Every thing you're bitching about is explained in the canon and you're sitting here arguing with me about how she's a mary sue and how the writers somehow fucked up because they didn't spoon-feed you the character's backstory and explain why she's able to do all this shit. Hell, despite the flight simulation crap, she still nearly crashed the falcon multiple times during that escape scene, It's not exactly a perfect escape.
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#106 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
Oh my god dude how are you not getting the basics here. You've completely missed my point. A MOVIE SHOULD NOT RELY ON A BOOK OR COMIC OUTSIDE THE MOVIE TO JUSTIFY A CHARACTER'S SKILLS. How hard is it to grasp that. Just try to imagine that only the movies exist and that's it. And you might say HURR DURR but the comics do exist. But you're missing my point the movie series is what I'm talking about and its not explained shes simply good at everything literally mary sue.

I bet you think the prequels were great to and Anakin wasn't completely mary sure either because of the expanded universe or some shit.

It's easy to go back and right 16 books justifying why are how a character can do something, but thats shitty writing.
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#109 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
>Oh my god dude how are you not getting the basics here. You've completely missed my point. A MOVIE SHOULD NOT RELY ON A BOOK OR COMIC OUTSIDE THE MOVIE TO JUSTIFY A CHARACTER'S SKILLS. How hard is it to grasp that. Just try to imagine that only the movies exist and that's it. And you might say HURR DURR but the comics do exist. But you're missing my point the movie series is what I'm talking about and its not explained shes simply good at everything literally mary sue.

Then that's your problem. When I talk about the series, I'm not only considering the movies, I believe everything matters, which it does, regardless of your opinion.

>I bet you think the prequels were great to and Anakin wasn't completely mary sure either because of the expanded universe or some shit.

No, anakin was a mary sue, and a lot of the shit he did was bullshit as well. Especially the whole, getting into a naboo starfighter and blowing up a fucking trade federation ship thing. However I believe that's canceled out due to the fact that he ended up falling to the dark side.

>It's easy to go back and right 16 books justifying why are how a character can do something, but thats shitty writing.

I'm pretty sure the book that explained this shit, actually came out a month before the movie. Or maybe it was the day of.
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#98 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
The film takes place 30 years after the last one. You know how much shit happens in 30 years? For comparison, 30 years ago we were still in the cold war with russia. Within the last thirty years, the world has seen countless wars, as well as advancements within medicine, technology, science, etc.

You're not going to be able to explain all of that with a lampshaded reference, same with a universe as large as the star wars universe. It wouldn't be satisfying, and you, along with a few others, would be bitching about it non-stop regardless.
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#99 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
It's called a character arc, having a scene or two devoted to showing her repairing something on the falcon or a ship on the compound is not that difficult.
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#102 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
And that's where we get the scene where finn picks up many little components while she's in the floor trying to fix something and she has to point it out multiple times.

Logically speaking if a scavenger's working with mechanical parts, chances are that scavenger probably knows how they work. But no, everything has to be spoonfed to the audience within two hours, no?
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#104 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
You've obviously never worked in scrap have you? You don't have to know how a piece of machinery works in order to grasp that it could be valuable. For example I could see a v8 engine and assume its worth money, doesn't mean I know how to fix and assembly a fucking engine.

Its not spoonfeeding, its developing a character and a backstory, but no lets just have all our characters instantly good at everything they do and never have any short comings or character. Ha characters without character. That soounds an awful lot like the chosen one, no?
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#107 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
She's not instantly good though. Again she nearly crashed the falcon during the escape, missed a couple of shots with the pistol Han gave her, and she failed her first mind trick attempt, hell it wasn't even really a fair fight with Kylo Ren, since the nigga got shot with a wookiee crossbow, something we've seen in the film itself to send people flying the moment they get hit with the bolt, he just murdered his father thinking it would cut his ties to the light side of the force, when it obviously didn't, and even then all she was really doing until he got her over the cliff was hold him back and even then after that she just started wailing at him like a goddamn child, grabbed his wrist and then got in a couple of lucky shots in.
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#108 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
She pulled off extremely complex flight maneuvers throughout the flight. And managed to due an extremely difficult mind trick easily. A good thing would have been when she comes into her force power she uses a massive force push to basically blow out her room. Allowing her to escape like we've seen in other star wars movies and games. That would have been interesting. And with the fight with kylo ren it would have been much more interesting if she lost but someone saved her at the last second like poe or chewy. Or rather if she had to beat him I would have rather seen her use her newly acquired force powers to blast him back far enough to escape with finn while kylo is forced to escape because the planets imploding.

Don't get me wrong there are many many more problems with the film that I could go on about, but were just talking about Rey right now.
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#112 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
>She pulled off extremely complex flight maneuvers throughout the flight. And managed to due an extremely difficult mind trick easily.

And yet she still nearly crashed and she had to try the mind trick thing again in order to get it to work. You know who did a mind trick perfectly the first time? Luke. Through out the original trilogy, Luke never...exactly trained with that shit, he just did some PT, tried to raise an X-wing, raised a couple of rocks onto each other, lifted R2-D2, and mostly did shit with telekinesis and his lightsaber, nothing complex as using a mind trick, and for all we know what he did with Yoda in episode V could have taken a week or a month, and we know he never went back to Dagobah until Episode VI, which happens a year later.

>A good thing would have been when she comes into her force power she uses a massive force push to basically blow out her room. Allowing her to escape like we've seen in other star wars movies and games.

No, that would have been just as bad. Not to mention, it would have just gotten her killed.

>And with the fight with kylo ren it would have been much more interesting if she lost but someone saved her at the last second like poe or chewy. Or rather if she had to beat him I would have rather seen her use her newly acquired force powers to blast him back far enough to escape with finn while kylo is forced to escape because the planets imploding.

Actually I agree, it would have been neater.
#95 - Dude you're the one whose got such a massive boner for his wai… 08/12/2016 on Star Wars: Rogue One Story... +1
#93 - Also the killing of his father is the metaphorical killing of … 08/12/2016 on Star Wars: Rogue One Story... +1
#92 - Kylo still should have easily beat her. He is trained in the …  [+] (2 new replies) 08/12/2016 on Star Wars: Rogue One Story... +1
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#94 - Haruhi (08/12/2016) [-]
You're making a lot of assumptions, too, you know. And no, no girl survives in the star wars universe on an OUTER RIM DESERT PLANET by running and hiding. you sound like a jackass.
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#95 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
Dude you're the one whose got such a massive boner for his waifu that he can't see the obvious flaws in her writing and how mary sue she is. Talk about being a jackass.
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