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#535 - ryanthemaniac (03/31/2012) [-]
I feel the same way. Anarchism would be much better for this country. There can't be corrupt leadership if there are no leaders. There can't be inequality if everybody has the same level of social, political, and economic power. All governments have done is wage unnecessary wars to protect their interests, and yet claim it's "for the people". If government were removed, and the people ACTUALLY had the power they deserve, war would cease, globalization would stop, and crime would plummet. And to "doodthedud", actually study up on Anarchism, and quit be a dipshit. Good day to both of you ;)
#543 - anonymous (03/31/2012) [-]
rofl crime will plummet??? are you fucking stupid, if their was no government i would loot and rape every family on my block
#556 - ryanthemaniac (03/31/2012) [-]
The only reason why crime exists is because government creates unequal and unfair laws which deprive a person of all possible opportunity. So, people get desperate enough to commit crime. Besides, if a crime were to be committed in an anarchist society, that criminal would be dealt with by an assembly of his/her peers. The criminal would have a chance to plead his/her case and defend himself/herself. Then, the people and community affected by the crime would decide on a ruling (most likely in an anarchist society either exile, rehabilitation, or community service). Sounds much more fair and less expensive than our current criminal justice system (if you study closely, is actually quite fucked up). Again, good day to you, sir. ;)
#622 - jewninja (03/31/2012) [-]
Then let us look only to those cases where there is a violent offense that a person could be 'saved' from, how often do police prevent violent crime as opposed to mop up the evidence later? And in these situations, how would they have turned out if the 'victim' was carrying and trained in the use of his/her firearm? Also how many less criminals would break into a house if there was a chance someone was home, cleaning their .38?
Also if you have a proper gun safe it's kinda hard to steal guns, not impossible, but still.
#643 - jewninja (03/31/2012) [-]
I understand you aren't arguing against guns, but your original comment seems to indicate that home invasions negate some of the positive aspects of gun ownership (ie it doesn't help [cause you're not there to cap some ass] and that the family loses money through the theft of the firearm), whereas I was trying to impress that these issues are not significant and in fact are further marginalized as an effect of an increase in gun ownership. You can't bring up a contrary point and then dodge defending it by saying you aren't arguing against my point.
#668 - jewninja (03/31/2012) [-]
I'm sorry that marginalized made you break out your big boy thesaurus, but sometimes large words are appropriate.
If you will note my post "not if everyone had free access to armaments, its less appealing to steal from a house if everyone's locked and loaded"
emphasis now on " its less appealing to steal from a house if everyone's locked and loaded"
The legitimacy (correctness) of this point does not correlate with your idea that robberies happen when people are out. I did not say, people will keep robbers out, I said it would be an effective deterrent if ownership increases. My later points explore the reasons for my conclusion since you seemed to think that it was untrue. I never thought you were against guns, I was attempting to persuade you that gun ownership decreases home invasion and that the material I 'glossed over' was not relevant.
#681 - houseofbrick (03/31/2012) [-]
Secondly, I'm going to put forth the point that it would not do a damned thing to home invasions. The experienced burglars are going to monitor their target and wait until nobody is home first before they do their business. The crackheads are crackheads and will rob the place regardless of gun ownership. Granted: this may prevent some from attempting home invasion in the first place, but the numbers will be so small as to be unimportant.
#1161 - jewninja (04/01/2012) [-]
You were critiquing my choice of words when the language being used was fairly simple, not sure where exactly my language became 'self-righteous' if you want to throw around the high handed insults at least get them right.
Also, I think we exhausted our other argument. I would contend that the number of people who would be deterred would be a significant amount, as the number of people who would be considered 'experienced' enough (in my opinion, I don't have crime stats) is the negligible one
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