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#150 - Yeah, I would definitely love to see a study done on how much … 06/23/2015 on white people 0
#149 - I see what you're saying, and I understand where your frustrat… 06/23/2015 on white people 0
#112 - Ahh, I see what you're saying. I agree that most people in the…  [+] (2 new replies) 06/21/2015 on white people 0
User avatar #145 - ninjaroo (06/22/2015) [-]
And I think it's possible most people associate it with the poor population, which goes back to me being interested in someone checking if it is.
User avatar #150 - Deeticky (06/23/2015) [-]
Yeah, I would definitely love to see a study done on how much of a classicism vs. racism bias is playing into this.
#110 - From my understanding, the point that people are trying to mak…  [+] (2 new replies) 06/21/2015 on white people +1
#116 - kmichel (06/21/2015) [-]
I just don't buy into the idea that white males have that much power anymore, and I hate that these SJW groups want us to accept that we do at face value. There are anti-discriminatory laws at every level of society, a strong taboo against racism or sexism, and opportunities for minority groups and women to get ahead that sometimes even discriminate against the majority. Hell, the income and high level positions occupied by Asians as one of the smallest minority groups in the US speaks volumes about the level playing field the US has been working hard to create for the past several decades. The arguments from the other side have become so esoteric that they lose meaning. "Institutional racism", "systemic discrimination"...it sounds awful but it doesn't really mean anything.
User avatar #149 - Deeticky (06/23/2015) [-]
I see what you're saying, and I understand where your frustration is coming from. I think minority groups certainly have greater power now than they did in the past. However, I would argue that minorities (Blacks and Latinos in particular) still have significantly less power in society compared to whites (especially in terms of socioeconomic power). For example, we know that Blacks and Latinos have significantly higher poverty rates than Whites. Now, there are a huge number of factors that play into this, but I think race is part of the problem. An example of this would be the fact that people with "Black/Latino-sounding" names (such as Jamal or Pedro) are less likely to receive job offers than someone with a "white-sounding" name (like Michael or David). This trend still occurs even when accounting for other variables like the level of the job applicant's qualifications.

I will definitely say that there are a lot of hateful SJWs on the internet, just like there are a lot of hateful MRAs. Luckily, most of the SJWs I have encountered in real life have been kind, intelligent, and thoughtful (I attend a pretty liberal university, so I see a lot of them). Unfortunately, the hateful SJWs make it harder for the intelligent ones to work towards achieving racial equality/justice.
#107 - I'm curious as to why you feel confident that cultural stereot…  [+] (4 new replies) 06/21/2015 on white people 0
User avatar #109 - ninjaroo (06/21/2015) [-]
Mostly a simple assumption that my experience isn't out of the ordinary. That being that everyone knows Mohammed is an Islamic name because of the prophet, and people don't know that Jamal is because it hasn't got such a major connection to anything.
User avatar #112 - Deeticky (06/21/2015) [-]
Ahh, I see what you're saying. I agree that most people in the US do not realize that Jamal is an Islamic name. However, I think most people in the US would associate the name Jamal with our black population (which would come with its own set of cultural and racial stereotypes).
User avatar #145 - ninjaroo (06/22/2015) [-]
And I think it's possible most people associate it with the poor population, which goes back to me being interested in someone checking if it is.
User avatar #150 - Deeticky (06/23/2015) [-]
Yeah, I would definitely love to see a study done on how much of a classicism vs. racism bias is playing into this.
#103 - Why would white males need a diversity quota? Diversity quotas…  [+] (3 new replies) 06/21/2015 on white people 0
#123 - deepterror (06/21/2015) [-]
I am not saying that whites need diversity quotas, I am saying that there is no truth to the statement that being a minority is an instant disadvantage. In many cases, it is an advantage.

I also just dont agree with diversity quotas at all. I mean, they might have had a use in the past, but in current times, there is no use for them. I should not be excluded from school just because the school doesnt have enough black people, and standards shouldnt be lowered so certain groups with lower averages can attend. If I am the best qualified, I should get the spot
User avatar #151 - Deeticky (06/23/2015) [-]
I see what you mean, and I totally understand your frustration. I would love to see a world where diversity quotas serve no purpose anymore. I personally don't think we are there yet, but that's just my view.

One of the sad things is that diversity quotas hurt individuals while helping society. By that, I mean that they are meant to make up for the disadvantages that are statistically connected to being born as a minority. For example, Blacks have a much higher rate of urban living than Whites. We also know that urban areas tend to have much higher crime rates and worse schools than suburban areas. Finally, Blacks are significantly less likely to attend college than Whites (likely because of their higher exposure to crime, poverty, and poor education). Diversity quotas are meant to make up for some of these disadvantages in the hope that Black students will be able to attend college and build careers that can hopefully end the major racial divide in terms of socioeconomic class.

I'm not trying to say whether diversity quotas are right or wrong, I'm just trying to explain why they exist. With that said, I would personally like to see a shift towards a system that focuses more on admitting students based on socioeconomic class instead of race.
#152 - deepterror (06/23/2015) [-]
Fair enough, I understand your point. one pinkie for you
#99 - I would guess that it's probably a combination of both racism …  [+] (6 new replies) 06/21/2015 on white people +2
User avatar #101 - ninjaroo (06/21/2015) [-]
I had no idea that Jamal meant beauty in Arabic until today, and I would wager the overwhelming majority of people don't. I also only knew Erik was Norse because of Erik the Red. I am reasonably confident that cultural stereotypes are at best a tiny portion of the problem here.

Maybe if the names in question were Mohammed I'd see your point.
User avatar #107 - Deeticky (06/21/2015) [-]
I'm curious as to why you feel confident that cultural stereotypes would only be a small factor in a name like Jamal, but would be a much larger factor in a name like Muhammad? Don't both names have racial/cultural stereotypes attached to them?
User avatar #109 - ninjaroo (06/21/2015) [-]
Mostly a simple assumption that my experience isn't out of the ordinary. That being that everyone knows Mohammed is an Islamic name because of the prophet, and people don't know that Jamal is because it hasn't got such a major connection to anything.
User avatar #112 - Deeticky (06/21/2015) [-]
Ahh, I see what you're saying. I agree that most people in the US do not realize that Jamal is an Islamic name. However, I think most people in the US would associate the name Jamal with our black population (which would come with its own set of cultural and racial stereotypes).
User avatar #145 - ninjaroo (06/22/2015) [-]
And I think it's possible most people associate it with the poor population, which goes back to me being interested in someone checking if it is.
User avatar #150 - Deeticky (06/23/2015) [-]
Yeah, I would definitely love to see a study done on how much of a classicism vs. racism bias is playing into this.
#189 - Liberal areas are actually far more likely than conservative a… 06/08/2015 on Refreshing! Help for men 0
#261 - My friend, I never said that feminists did not engage in threa…  [+] (1 new reply) 06/08/2015 on Best response to a Feminist... 0
#262 - lostlust (06/08/2015) [-]
You are absolutely right in that perspective. Problem is, I have trouble looking at the situation in that perspective anymore. Is rape rape? Idk anymore. Did the girl get raped or actually get raped? Idk. This is a problem that simply cannot be solved with our current technologies in a cost-effective manner (which some people take advantage of by playing the slut who cried rape).

But the thing that we can do is to set up laws regarding ACTUAL EQUALITY, like having the same penalties for false accusation of rape vs. the penalty for rape. Like I said before, the power to ruin a person's life should be held accountable to the person who uses it. If they abuse the power, they should have the equal penalty. That is something which we can do and really, if people actually cared about equality, it is perfectly reasonable.
#142 - I try to advocate for changing to the metric system (again) wh… 06/07/2015 on I heard you guys liked... 0
#251 - Just to be clear, I tend to agree with you in terms of free sp…  [+] (3 new replies) 06/07/2015 on Best response to a Feminist... 0
#258 - lostlust (06/07/2015) [-]
until there has been official responses, arrests and prosecution of actual callers of false SWATS on households for simply being opposed to a feminist's opinion and there has been examples of female rapes/harassment/blackmails and false accusations being sentenced to the same degree of male rapes instead of a light slap on the wrist. There will be no sympathy from me since they are violating the principle definition of equality. If you have the power to send someone's life into the garbage and you abuse it, you should face the same punishment.

And whether the media reports it or not (mostly not), people just turn a blind eye towards threats (death, job-loss ect..) to anti-modern feminists? Yet, the discussions are not closed because of those people. Seriously, just take a look some of the Christina Hoff Sommers articles, the threats are just as disgusting in the comments, in the responses, everything. I am sure to get red thumbs for this but until a female gets a life-sentence for falsely accusing rape, I don't give a fuck about rape cases because from the start, if a female opens her mouth about rape, the accused gets treatment that might as well be guilty until proven innocent.

[And even if proven innocent, the woman will still be label as the victim for "oh, look at that this man drove me into doing" or "she just needed attention and all the neglect" and the man's life will still be irreversibly affected in all aspects.] (I have no actual concrete proof or statistic of this, but this is my observation of each resolved false rape charge, the woman still receives support - which is unheard of if it is a male)
User avatar #261 - Deeticky (06/08/2015) [-]
My friend, I never said that feminists did not engage in threats/SWAT calls, etc. I was just pointing out that because there is so much anger on both sides of the issue, it is nearly impossible to have rational discourse/debates.

In fact, you said that you "don't give a fuck about rape cases" because women who falsely accuse don't receive life in prison. The problem with that is that you are also ignoring the women who have actually had their life destroyed by rape. The way our justice system works, a person must be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in order to be convicted of a crime. Because rape is so difficult to prove, most rapists are never prosecuted/convicted. While I agree that falsely accusing someone of rape with the intent to ruin their life should be punished harshly, that's not a reason to ignore rape victims.

In a non-legal setting, a person accused of raping another may well be treated as guilty by the community even if there's no evidence like you said. However, it works both ways. There are quite a few communities where the rape victim will be slut-shamed.
#262 - lostlust (06/08/2015) [-]
You are absolutely right in that perspective. Problem is, I have trouble looking at the situation in that perspective anymore. Is rape rape? Idk anymore. Did the girl get raped or actually get raped? Idk. This is a problem that simply cannot be solved with our current technologies in a cost-effective manner (which some people take advantage of by playing the slut who cried rape).

But the thing that we can do is to set up laws regarding ACTUAL EQUALITY, like having the same penalties for false accusation of rape vs. the penalty for rape. Like I said before, the power to ruin a person's life should be held accountable to the person who uses it. If they abuse the power, they should have the equal penalty. That is something which we can do and really, if people actually cared about equality, it is perfectly reasonable.
#250 - Guys, the first poster was obviously a troll. Please guys, c'm…  [+] (1 new reply) 06/07/2015 on Best response to a Feminist... +1
User avatar #259 - Dragonchampion (06/07/2015) [-]
Oh, everyone knows it's a troll, including the Dev. But the comeback was so awesome I couldn't help but share.
#230 - I'm very sorry to hear that. Thanks for chatting with me. 06/05/2015 on "My liberal students... 0
#119 - I understand. I guess my main point is that we should try to w…  [+] (2 new replies) 06/04/2015 on "My liberal students... +1
User avatar #122 - lean (06/04/2015) [-]
MNsure made my rates go up about 40% here. I'm glad it works for you
User avatar #230 - Deeticky (06/05/2015) [-]
I'm very sorry to hear that. Thanks for chatting with me.
#219 - If we look specifically at homicides, we can see that New York… 06/04/2015 on kill count 0
#210 - The 5th Amendment would protect us? So an invading country wou…  [+] (1 new reply) 06/04/2015 on kill count +1
#213 - dafogman (06/04/2015) [-]
FUCK!

The second amendment.........fucking retarded American...learn the Bill of Rights.
#107 - That's not what I'm trying to get at. All I am trying to say i… 06/04/2015 on "My liberal students... +1
#106 - Wow, you're a Minnesotan too, that's pretty cool! You…  [+] (4 new replies) 06/04/2015 on "My liberal students... +1
User avatar #114 - lean (06/04/2015) [-]
Minnesotans are typically moderate in most aspects of politics. We understand hard work and offering a helping hand. I use language like i did because other people don't bother involving themselves or educating themselves in politics, they do what they are told, or if something catches their eye and makes sense...

Plus a lot of policies lately really get me heated because they come right out of my pocket. Middle class male single homeowner.
User avatar #119 - Deeticky (06/04/2015) [-]
I understand. I guess my main point is that we should try to work towards making effective argument the norm, not the exception. We're middle-class too. Healthcare costs have hit us very hard, which is why our family was thankful for MNsure, which helped us quite a bit. However, politicians on both sides are guilty of policies that favor the rich and harm the middle class, which is why one of my biggest goals is to work towards getting big money out of politics, starting with scrapping Citizens United.
User avatar #122 - lean (06/04/2015) [-]
MNsure made my rates go up about 40% here. I'm glad it works for you
User avatar #230 - Deeticky (06/05/2015) [-]
I'm very sorry to hear that. Thanks for chatting with me.
#98 - My friend, I can tell you're not a fan of the government. That…  [+] (2 new replies) 06/04/2015 on "My liberal students... +2
User avatar #102 - lean (06/04/2015) [-]
Pick a topic and I can explain why Democrat/ liberal policy is ineffective. Or at least propose a reasonable alternative that is reasonable and logical.
User avatar #107 - Deeticky (06/04/2015) [-]
That's not what I'm trying to get at. All I am trying to say is that it is harmful to engage in fallacious rhetoric like ad-hominem attacks and strawmen (both sides are guilty of it). You seem like an intelligent person, and I'm sure we could have a great, informative debate on policy if we chose to do so. However, that's not what I'm interested in doing right now. Instead, I'm trying to get people to argue their cases without engaging in so many fallacies. I think that's what will help make politics more effective and bearable.
#84 - I am the Vice-Chair of my local Senate District's chapter of t…  [+] (6 new replies) 06/04/2015 on "My liberal students... +5
User avatar #96 - lean (06/04/2015) [-]
How about that waterway right of way you guys tried to pass. I work with the guy who effectively shut that down. I live up near Alexandria.

The problem is historically the democrat party has sought to compound laws with good intention that did/ do not work. Look at welfare. Look at medicare/ medicaid. The reason these policies (on both sides) fail is because the people making them are unaware of the details of the subject being regulated. Most don't bother discovering more, either out of arrogance or because of a time constraint. Government policy is meant to be a long, slow, well thought out process. American independence took 12 years of debate. We turn laws now in months, and the main result is expansion of government power and regulation upon industry usually burdening the middle class. Often the original problems that laws were written for are completely overlooked in the results of the regulation. I am undoubtedly centrist- but with regard to economics and government regulation I am about as conservative as they come. You can't regulate the poor into prosperity by regulating the wealthy out of it, and industrial practices and prosperity are not the result of any executive fiat but the result of poor practices losing to the competition. Mostly people are just too impatient for their own damn good. They want change and results right now that realistically take decades to properly accomplish. And get the social BS out of politics- it isn't for some federal, state, or local judge to decide who to marry or how to raise your family. That shit is on you, and the choices you and your offspring make are subject to the same rule of law as everyone else.
User avatar #106 - Deeticky (06/04/2015) [-]
Wow, you're a Minnesotan too, that's pretty cool!

You see, a lot of us in the DFL actually agree with you on the fact that governmental effectiveness is a slow process, not a fast one. I personally believe that we should continue to improve these policies instead of scrapping them outright. For example, with welfare, we know that it has helped some people get back on their feet after being thrown into poverty (my family included). However, there are a lot of improvements that could be made (for example, returning to a tiered welfare system instead of all-or-nothing). Now i know you might not agree with this one, and that's ok, but I think we should move towards universal healthcare. That would make it so that we don't need to spend money on programs like medicare and medicaid. However, in order to do so, we would need to be able to negotiate healthcare prices to be lower like they have done in other countries with single-payer systems. This is something that the healthcare lobby has vehemently opposed (as it would cut into their massive profits).

The Democratic party has had many successes and many failures. The Republican party has also had successes and failures. The free market has had successes and failures. Successes and failures are part of the process. The point should be that we learn from them and try to improve, not scrap the system altogether.
User avatar #114 - lean (06/04/2015) [-]
Minnesotans are typically moderate in most aspects of politics. We understand hard work and offering a helping hand. I use language like i did because other people don't bother involving themselves or educating themselves in politics, they do what they are told, or if something catches their eye and makes sense...

Plus a lot of policies lately really get me heated because they come right out of my pocket. Middle class male single homeowner.
User avatar #119 - Deeticky (06/04/2015) [-]
I understand. I guess my main point is that we should try to work towards making effective argument the norm, not the exception. We're middle-class too. Healthcare costs have hit us very hard, which is why our family was thankful for MNsure, which helped us quite a bit. However, politicians on both sides are guilty of policies that favor the rich and harm the middle class, which is why one of my biggest goals is to work towards getting big money out of politics, starting with scrapping Citizens United.
User avatar #122 - lean (06/04/2015) [-]
MNsure made my rates go up about 40% here. I'm glad it works for you
User avatar #230 - Deeticky (06/05/2015) [-]
I'm very sorry to hear that. Thanks for chatting with me.
#71 - "Liberalism is a mental disorder." Seriousl…  [+] (4 new replies) 06/04/2015 on "My liberal students... +5
User avatar #79 - lean (06/04/2015) [-]
The belief that the federal government is the end all be all solution to all our woes as a society is a mental disorder. Liberalism in the US promotes that as a solution.

maybe I should say progressive liberalism. The people who use their emotions and what offends them as justification for the sacrifice of individual rights. The people who argue that more laws and taxes in support of a tyrannical government will somehow mitigate the strain on the economy and social welfare. The government is solely responsible for just about every problem within society, quit giving them the power to kick it in the ribs so it cannot get up.
User avatar #98 - Deeticky (06/04/2015) [-]
My friend, I can tell you're not a fan of the government. That's ok. Like I said, you have a right to your opinion. However, you also stated that you value logic and reason. I also value logic and reason. That's why it's important that we talk about some of the things you are saying.

First, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders does not list liberalism as a mental disorder. Therefore, it is not a mental disorder. You can disagree with it as much as you want, but by erroneously calling it a mental disorder, you are making a fallacious ad-hominem attack against people who hold those political views. That is just as bad as someone who says "all conservatives are racist."

Second, the vast majority of Liberals do not believe that government is the "end-all be-all" solution to every problem in society. Like I said in my other post, I am an officer within Minnesota's wing of the Democratic Party. I am a liberal, I work with a lot of people who are more liberal than me. I have never seen a single one of them, nor have I seen any of our elected officials, claim that government is the solution to everything. That's just a strawman fallacy. In fact, there are many areas of government that progressive liberals do not support (NSA spying, too much military action in the Middle East, etc.)

Yes, there are some progressive liberals who use what offends them as the justification to remove people's rights. They are our extremists, and from my experience, do not represent the majority. It's exactly the same as how the Right has a very vocal group of extremists who want to remove rights because of their religious views.

Finally, you say that liberals support a "tyrannical" government. Again, that's a strawman. I have never met a single person in my life who is pro-tyranny. The thing is, your definition of tyranny might be different than theirs. Instead of saying that liberals "support tyranny" and are "mentally ill", which misstates their position and is the opposite of using logic and reason, perhaps just realize that most liberals, just like most conservatives, want the best for our country. We may disagree on how to achieve that, but that's ok. We need to treat each other with respect in order to facilitate effective political discourse.
User avatar #102 - lean (06/04/2015) [-]
Pick a topic and I can explain why Democrat/ liberal policy is ineffective. Or at least propose a reasonable alternative that is reasonable and logical.
User avatar #107 - Deeticky (06/04/2015) [-]
That's not what I'm trying to get at. All I am trying to say is that it is harmful to engage in fallacious rhetoric like ad-hominem attacks and strawmen (both sides are guilty of it). You seem like an intelligent person, and I'm sure we could have a great, informative debate on policy if we chose to do so. However, that's not what I'm interested in doing right now. Instead, I'm trying to get people to argue their cases without engaging in so many fallacies. I think that's what will help make politics more effective and bearable.
#97 - Supplying more funding to NASA would not mean that other count…  [+] (3 new replies) 06/02/2015 on Fact comp #22 +17
User avatar #107 - bionicpanda (06/02/2015) [-]
It's crazy to think that two countries who can't stand each other are forming the closest bonds due to cooperation in space

The only time you will see Americans working hard next to Russians is when they're up and orbiting earth.
User avatar #304 - dudelolz (06/02/2015) [-]
Everybody loves space!
User avatar #126 - hydraetis (06/02/2015) [-]
Hence exactly why we need more money in international space programs
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#75 - I wasn't trying to argue with you in my final sentence, in fac… 05/30/2015 on Make up your mind,... +1
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