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#60 - 1. Yes, the population of North America has always included no…  [+] (18 new replies) 04/02/2016 on Good for her +8
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#194 - navywannabe (04/02/2016) [-]
Out of the first ten amendments, what rights did non-whites not have? Sure, they were treated poorly, but it says "All men are created equal". That does not mean they are going to be treated equal nor will they have the same outcomes.
Daton and Franken are Democrats. So I'm not sure what Republican controls Minnesota.
I am a Libertarian, but I agree more with Republicans. I don't think Trump is truly Republican, but since he says he is, I'll back him up.
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#204 - Deeticky (04/02/2016) [-]
Well, slaves, for one thing, weren't given the rights present in the first ten amendments. Also, non-whites did not receive the right to vote until 1870.

Franken doesn't have any official power over how Minnesota is run. He's a U.S. Senator, so he deals with national issues, not state issues. Yes, Dayton is currently our governor. Before him though, Tim Pawlenty, a Republican, was our governor. Dayton doesn't get to make the laws anyway. He only gets to choose whether to veto them or not, and he controls Minnesota's executive branch. The laws are created by the State House and State Senate, the State House (Republican controlled) and the State Senate (Democrat Controlled).
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#207 - navywannabe (04/03/2016) [-]
They did have the first ten amendments, otherwise they would have over thrown our government. If the Militia Men could bring down the greatest military in the world during that time, we could be brought down too. And to bring up voting is irrelevant. Not even the white man's voting is NOT protected by the Constitution.
The govener (Daton) has the most power, and says if the bill passes or not. Therefore the laws are mostly Democrats. Let's face it, he will pass the laws that only Democrats want. And Fraken brings state issues to a national level. That's in the job description as Senator. It helps get a new perspective.
#65 - anon (04/02/2016) [-]
2. When people choose to call other people out on their racism or bigotry, that isn't forcing them to be silent. That is simply people choosing to exercise their own right to free speech in response to others. The First Amendment protects your legal right to free speech, but it does not protect you from criticism.

yes, until you are fired from your employer due to outrage at a political statement or otherwise that isn't actually racist, but as long as they shout it loud enough and in big enough numbers it doesn't matter.
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#69 - Deeticky (04/02/2016) [-]
Some people have said really racist things, been called out on it, and then fired. They deserved that. However, you're right. Sometimes, innocent people do get fired for things that were simply misinterpreted. I think that's wrong. However, The First Amendment doesn't govern the actions of private enterprise. Employers will always react to public outrage. That's actually the expected response in a free-market system.
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#192 - navywannabe (04/02/2016) [-]
They don't deserve it. People should grow a back bone and not let it phase them. Are people so much of a pussy that words hurt them?
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#205 - Deeticky (04/02/2016) [-]
It's not about people's feelings getting hurt by words. It's about the fact that when somebody is the leader of an organization, everything they say reflects back on the organization as a whole. If they say racist things, it makes the organization itself look racist. If the organization doesn't want to look racist, then they choose to fire the person.
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#206 - navywannabe (04/03/2016) [-]
How does one person that is low man on the totem pole represent the company? I can see multiple people, but not just one person.
#71 - anon (04/02/2016) [-]
And then when anyone uses these tactics on their side they're arrested for harrassment.

Stop pretending this isn't horseshit man. You are NOT ALLOWED to act the same way if you do not parrot the liberal agenda. There is absolutely special treatment here.
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#73 - Deeticky (04/02/2016) [-]
Uses what tactics? Who is arrested for harassment? Of who?

Who disallows who from acting what way if they don't parrot what liberal agenda? Who gets what kind of special special treatment from who?

I'm so confused right now.
#76 - anon (04/02/2016) [-]
Look man I could post a thousand different stories if that's what you want, but chances are you're just gonna go "lmao cherrypicking" as if that matters to the people who are left with no job and likely losing what they already own because of it.

Pretending this isn't happening doesnt get anyone anywhere. Racism isn't okay but the thought police state we live in now isn't what people should be striving for. I'd take a black person getting called a nigger and having to ignore it like an adult over peoples lives being ruined for something that isn't anywhere close to the same thing.
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#79 - Deeticky (04/02/2016) [-]
No, I would never reply with "lmao cherrypicking." I always try to keep my conversations open, polite, academic, and fair. But here's the thing, man: It's an exaggeration to call our current climate a "thought police state." Private institutions are not legally governed by the First Amendment. Only the government is. That's why the government is not allowed to make any laws that say that you, as a private citizen, can't ever say the word "nigger". However, a business can choose to censor and punish people's speech pretty much any way they want, as they are not governed by the Constitution.

This has nothing to do with Liberals. It has everything to do with the relationship between law, government, and business. It's the way that this country has always operated. In fact, the Tea party has also cost a lot of moderate conservatives to lose their jobs because they weren't "conservative enough."
#82 - anon (04/02/2016) [-]
Okay, sorry for assuming you're an asshole first and foremost, it just happens to usually be correct on this site.
I don't think people should be able to randomly shout nigger everywhere they go or even on twitter, the problem is that's not what's happening. If someone was fired for shooting off the n bomb on twitter that's their own problem. But if there is not actual cause for you to be fired then it should be outright illegal, I think there is some form of recourse in suing them for a wrongful firing but it rarely actually works out. When people will cry racism en masse over little to nothing you can't have people losing everything because they're out there on patrol making sure no one disagrees with them online all day knowing full well they only have to shout racism enough times or loud enough to get what they want like a crying baby.
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#203 - Deeticky (04/02/2016) [-]
No worries, man. I know there are a lot of assholes on this site. Let's shift gears a little bit. Let's say you're right, and people do cry racism too much and it causes a lot of innocent people to lose jobs. What would have to be done to fix that?
#66 - anon (04/02/2016) [-]
So yeah, I suppose you aren't FORCEING anyone, you're just holding their entire life in front of them and going "you sure you don't want to agree with everything I say?"
#67 - anon (04/02/2016) [-]
forcing* too late for this garbage
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#63 - therealfell (04/02/2016) [-]
that's exactly what I'm referring to, hence the "we want white tenants in our white community" pic
#68 - anon (04/02/2016) [-]
"haha look you were racist in the past so you should shut up about everything else."

Seriously man, right outta the playbook. Show me where trump will magically make all minorities go away, or how it will allow true racism (Not the total bullshit you type of people call racism on a daily basis like white people having dreadlocks) okay.

Tell me. Tell me exactly.
#110 - I liked your post, but good luck getting any sort of a worthwh…  [+] (13 new replies) 03/31/2016 on Trump Converts Muslims +46
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#198 - infinitereaper (03/31/2016) [-]
Muslims are killing Musilms, the religion itself supports oppression of women and gays. Islam is like the new old testament. Insane, but it's religion so it's all good right? Watching that disease spread, watching the rise of global terrorism, I've had enough. The world has had enough. but as their religion dictates they won't stop until the whole world bends to their archaic beliefs.
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#190 - arreatface (03/31/2016) [-]
thats the case with most redpill advocates, sadly.
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#193 - infinitereaper (03/31/2016) [-]
When I say red pill I'm referring to the Matrix. Same lines from the movie. The truth. Nothing more.
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#280 - theruinedsage (03/31/2016) [-]
I think that's what most people have against the concept of redpil

Yes, it's a reference to the absolute truth that most people don't know about
But people apply it to their political view, where no absolute truth exists
Implying that they are somehow capable of rising above personal bias, ignorance, falsified evidence, uncertainty, flawed methodology and mistakes.

It's the good old science vs religion argument
Science claims that it doesn't know the truth, but it's looking for it
Religion claims it knows the absolute truth

I'll trust someone who's willing to change their stance if proven wrong over someone who claims to know the absolute truth any day. Especially when it comes to political issues.
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#320 - infinitereaper (03/31/2016) [-]
The point is that most people take the blue pill, and therefore, the majority, with popular opinion and political correctness, are usually very wrong. Look no further than this site to see how political the "truth" is. Look at he media. Look at the circlerjerks on this site. Look ate everything. This is a world of lies. Everybody is caught up in feelings, not evidence or facts. There is no reason. Maybe I'm being unreasonable with my bluntness, but the reason the world never changes is because people refuse to change. So it works both ways. The "red pilled" have no choice but to become an unstoppable force, to crack through an immovable object. Easier said than done. I could easily circlejerk with the majority. I choose not to, because I care more about the truth than anything or anyone. I might not get everything right, but most people don't think beyond what they feel. I feel the way I do because I think. That's the simple difference.
#197 - arreatface (03/31/2016) [-]
see thats my problem with it

The Truth

as if there was no other possibility and anything else would not be legitimate and therefore inferior

it limits and suppresses the possibility of rationally debating over wich solutions could be best.
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#205 - infinitereaper (03/31/2016) [-]
Yeah okay, but understand this sequence of events:
>Islam dindu nuffin
>tolerate Islam
>Islam continues to spread
>Islam continues to do vast harm to itself and others
>nothing changes
>things get worse

That's my problem with liberals and the apologetic.
Their solution is no solution, so everything gets worst. Nothing changes.
A cycle that repeats, and causes ever increasing amounts of harm.
#208 - arreatface (03/31/2016) [-]
so you chose to close any possibility of debate because you consider the 'other side's position invalid ?

that doesnt sound like a way to make things change
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#241 - infinitereaper (03/31/2016) [-]
Don't put words in my mouth. By your logic however, an endless debate isn't any good either. And that's where we are at. No good. No change. Nothing. That's why the truth is important, because otherwise every opinion would be valid. And we could never judge, fix anything, or make any progress.
#245 - arreatface (03/31/2016) [-]
What i'm trying to say is that what you consider 'The Truth' could be seen as stupid to another person, or as irrealistic to a third person.
To each his own, and i've always had troubles with ideologies, political standpoints or religions that praised their own point of view as 'the Objective Truth'.
It is not a sane basis for discussing and comfronting different points of view, wich is ultimately the goal of any argument between two people, and also the only way to make progress.
#251 - infinitereaper (03/31/2016) [-]
That's why we have evidence, facts, and data to prove a truth.
Everybody has the right to an opinion, but not everybody is entitled to be right.
Some people might think the world is flat, doesn't make it true, it jut makes them idiots.
Idiots who will likely spread their idiocy.
See the parallels?
#262 - arreatface (03/31/2016) [-]
Evidence can be falsified, facts can be biased and data can be manipulated.
Think about the 'wage gap' myth, thats a prime example of data manipulated to fit a narrative.
Not that long ago, the hymen was also considered 'evidence' of a woman's purity, but we now know that it can be lost by other means - horseriding or fingering oneself too deep -.
Only gays can have AIDS was also considered a fact 60 years ago, that doesnt make it any more truth today.

What i'm saying is don't praise only one church, broaden your perspective.
What today you consider unsufferable truth could be shown to be complete rubbish tomorrow.

Anyways, it was nice to have a civilized discussion on this site for once.
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#139 - theruinedsage (03/31/2016) [-]
I've got some good discussion out of him every now and again
But yeah, he's pretty paranoid, and if you don't agree with him then he immediately assumes you're incapable of critical thinking for not coming to the same conclusion as he did.
#105 - It's a fake post. The second she said "Hajib" was th…  [+] (2 new replies) 03/31/2016 on Trump Converts Muslims +6
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#164 - randomnab (03/31/2016) [-]
So I clicked your profile. The first comment you've ever made on FJ was about muslims. The most recent comment you made is about muslims. I like your consistency
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#133 - kurbeh (03/31/2016) [-]
Was wondering, always thought they were called that way, but what do I know.
#5 - How? How did you even get here? Jesus Christ, it's been 5 years. 03/04/2016 on Christianity 0
#69 - I would argue that we are in the midst of a conservative movem… 02/25/2016 on Anon Goes to a Convention +2
#396 - Good post, I agree with you 100%. Sadly, very few people actua… 02/05/2016 on Sweden Is Done +1
#67 - She wasn't even on stage in that picture. It was probably take… 02/01/2016 on Straight Up Caught Comp. 21 +2
#66 - The second picture was obviously taken before the event starte… 02/01/2016 on Straight Up Caught Comp. 21 0
#212 - That would be a Nematomorph hairworm. It was living inside the…  [+] (1 new reply) 01/23/2016 on GoodLuck Sleeping Tonight... +1
#217 - oinos (01/23/2016) [-]
So looking that up now. thnx.
#204 - I've been on FJ for almost 6 years now, and I agree. It's desc… 01/23/2016 on The awesome story of the... +3