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#219 - If we look specifically at homicides, we can see that New York… 06/04/2015 on kill count 0
#210 - The 5th Amendment would protect us? So an invading country wou…  [+] (1 new reply) 06/04/2015 on kill count +1
#213 - dafogman (06/04/2015) [-]
FUCK!

The second amendment.........fucking retarded American...learn the Bill of Rights.
#107 - That's not what I'm trying to get at. All I am trying to say i… 06/04/2015 on "My liberal students... +1
#106 - Wow, you're a Minnesotan too, that's pretty cool! You…  [+] (4 new replies) 06/04/2015 on "My liberal students... +1
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#114 - lean (06/04/2015) [-]
Minnesotans are typically moderate in most aspects of politics. We understand hard work and offering a helping hand. I use language like i did because other people don't bother involving themselves or educating themselves in politics, they do what they are told, or if something catches their eye and makes sense...

Plus a lot of policies lately really get me heated because they come right out of my pocket. Middle class male single homeowner.
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#119 - Deeticky (06/04/2015) [-]
I understand. I guess my main point is that we should try to work towards making effective argument the norm, not the exception. We're middle-class too. Healthcare costs have hit us very hard, which is why our family was thankful for MNsure, which helped us quite a bit. However, politicians on both sides are guilty of policies that favor the rich and harm the middle class, which is why one of my biggest goals is to work towards getting big money out of politics, starting with scrapping Citizens United.
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#122 - lean (06/04/2015) [-]
MNsure made my rates go up about 40% here. I'm glad it works for you
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#230 - Deeticky (06/05/2015) [-]
I'm very sorry to hear that. Thanks for chatting with me.
#98 - My friend, I can tell you're not a fan of the government. That…  [+] (2 new replies) 06/04/2015 on "My liberal students... +2
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#102 - lean (06/04/2015) [-]
Pick a topic and I can explain why Democrat/ liberal policy is ineffective. Or at least propose a reasonable alternative that is reasonable and logical.
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#107 - Deeticky (06/04/2015) [-]
That's not what I'm trying to get at. All I am trying to say is that it is harmful to engage in fallacious rhetoric like ad-hominem attacks and strawmen (both sides are guilty of it). You seem like an intelligent person, and I'm sure we could have a great, informative debate on policy if we chose to do so. However, that's not what I'm interested in doing right now. Instead, I'm trying to get people to argue their cases without engaging in so many fallacies. I think that's what will help make politics more effective and bearable.
#84 - I am the Vice-Chair of my local Senate District's chapter of t…  [+] (6 new replies) 06/04/2015 on "My liberal students... +5
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#96 - lean (06/04/2015) [-]
How about that waterway right of way you guys tried to pass. I work with the guy who effectively shut that down. I live up near Alexandria.

The problem is historically the democrat party has sought to compound laws with good intention that did/ do not work. Look at welfare. Look at medicare/ medicaid. The reason these policies (on both sides) fail is because the people making them are unaware of the details of the subject being regulated. Most don't bother discovering more, either out of arrogance or because of a time constraint. Government policy is meant to be a long, slow, well thought out process. American independence took 12 years of debate. We turn laws now in months, and the main result is expansion of government power and regulation upon industry usually burdening the middle class. Often the original problems that laws were written for are completely overlooked in the results of the regulation. I am undoubtedly centrist- but with regard to economics and government regulation I am about as conservative as they come. You can't regulate the poor into prosperity by regulating the wealthy out of it, and industrial practices and prosperity are not the result of any executive fiat but the result of poor practices losing to the competition. Mostly people are just too impatient for their own damn good. They want change and results right now that realistically take decades to properly accomplish. And get the social BS out of politics- it isn't for some federal, state, or local judge to decide who to marry or how to raise your family. That shit is on you, and the choices you and your offspring make are subject to the same rule of law as everyone else.
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#106 - Deeticky (06/04/2015) [-]
Wow, you're a Minnesotan too, that's pretty cool!

You see, a lot of us in the DFL actually agree with you on the fact that governmental effectiveness is a slow process, not a fast one. I personally believe that we should continue to improve these policies instead of scrapping them outright. For example, with welfare, we know that it has helped some people get back on their feet after being thrown into poverty (my family included). However, there are a lot of improvements that could be made (for example, returning to a tiered welfare system instead of all-or-nothing). Now i know you might not agree with this one, and that's ok, but I think we should move towards universal healthcare. That would make it so that we don't need to spend money on programs like medicare and medicaid. However, in order to do so, we would need to be able to negotiate healthcare prices to be lower like they have done in other countries with single-payer systems. This is something that the healthcare lobby has vehemently opposed (as it would cut into their massive profits).

The Democratic party has had many successes and many failures. The Republican party has also had successes and failures. The free market has had successes and failures. Successes and failures are part of the process. The point should be that we learn from them and try to improve, not scrap the system altogether.
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#114 - lean (06/04/2015) [-]
Minnesotans are typically moderate in most aspects of politics. We understand hard work and offering a helping hand. I use language like i did because other people don't bother involving themselves or educating themselves in politics, they do what they are told, or if something catches their eye and makes sense...

Plus a lot of policies lately really get me heated because they come right out of my pocket. Middle class male single homeowner.
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#119 - Deeticky (06/04/2015) [-]
I understand. I guess my main point is that we should try to work towards making effective argument the norm, not the exception. We're middle-class too. Healthcare costs have hit us very hard, which is why our family was thankful for MNsure, which helped us quite a bit. However, politicians on both sides are guilty of policies that favor the rich and harm the middle class, which is why one of my biggest goals is to work towards getting big money out of politics, starting with scrapping Citizens United.
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#122 - lean (06/04/2015) [-]
MNsure made my rates go up about 40% here. I'm glad it works for you
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#230 - Deeticky (06/05/2015) [-]
I'm very sorry to hear that. Thanks for chatting with me.
#71 - "Liberalism is a mental disorder." Seriousl…  [+] (4 new replies) 06/04/2015 on "My liberal students... +5
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#79 - lean (06/04/2015) [-]
The belief that the federal government is the end all be all solution to all our woes as a society is a mental disorder. Liberalism in the US promotes that as a solution.

maybe I should say progressive liberalism. The people who use their emotions and what offends them as justification for the sacrifice of individual rights. The people who argue that more laws and taxes in support of a tyrannical government will somehow mitigate the strain on the economy and social welfare. The government is solely responsible for just about every problem within society, quit giving them the power to kick it in the ribs so it cannot get up.
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#98 - Deeticky (06/04/2015) [-]
My friend, I can tell you're not a fan of the government. That's ok. Like I said, you have a right to your opinion. However, you also stated that you value logic and reason. I also value logic and reason. That's why it's important that we talk about some of the things you are saying.

First, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders does not list liberalism as a mental disorder. Therefore, it is not a mental disorder. You can disagree with it as much as you want, but by erroneously calling it a mental disorder, you are making a fallacious ad-hominem attack against people who hold those political views. That is just as bad as someone who says "all conservatives are racist."

Second, the vast majority of Liberals do not believe that government is the "end-all be-all" solution to every problem in society. Like I said in my other post, I am an officer within Minnesota's wing of the Democratic Party. I am a liberal, I work with a lot of people who are more liberal than me. I have never seen a single one of them, nor have I seen any of our elected officials, claim that government is the solution to everything. That's just a strawman fallacy. In fact, there are many areas of government that progressive liberals do not support (NSA spying, too much military action in the Middle East, etc.)

Yes, there are some progressive liberals who use what offends them as the justification to remove people's rights. They are our extremists, and from my experience, do not represent the majority. It's exactly the same as how the Right has a very vocal group of extremists who want to remove rights because of their religious views.

Finally, you say that liberals support a "tyrannical" government. Again, that's a strawman. I have never met a single person in my life who is pro-tyranny. The thing is, your definition of tyranny might be different than theirs. Instead of saying that liberals "support tyranny" and are "mentally ill", which misstates their position and is the opposite of using logic and reason, perhaps just realize that most liberals, just like most conservatives, want the best for our country. We may disagree on how to achieve that, but that's ok. We need to treat each other with respect in order to facilitate effective political discourse.
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#102 - lean (06/04/2015) [-]
Pick a topic and I can explain why Democrat/ liberal policy is ineffective. Or at least propose a reasonable alternative that is reasonable and logical.
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#107 - Deeticky (06/04/2015) [-]
That's not what I'm trying to get at. All I am trying to say is that it is harmful to engage in fallacious rhetoric like ad-hominem attacks and strawmen (both sides are guilty of it). You seem like an intelligent person, and I'm sure we could have a great, informative debate on policy if we chose to do so. However, that's not what I'm interested in doing right now. Instead, I'm trying to get people to argue their cases without engaging in so many fallacies. I think that's what will help make politics more effective and bearable.
#97 - Supplying more funding to NASA would not mean that other count…  [+] (3 new replies) 06/02/2015 on Fact comp #22 +17
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#107 - bionicpanda (06/02/2015) [-]
It's crazy to think that two countries who can't stand each other are forming the closest bonds due to cooperation in space

The only time you will see Americans working hard next to Russians is when they're up and orbiting earth.
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#304 - dudelolz (06/02/2015) [-]
Everybody loves space!
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#126 - hydraetis (06/02/2015) [-]
Hence exactly why we need more money in international space programs
#72 - Actually, standard bankruptcy doesn't cover student loans. Tha… 06/01/2015 on Paying student loans via... +1
#75 - I wasn't trying to argue with you in my final sentence, in fac… 05/30/2015 on Make up your mind,... +1