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#53 - Why not practice it as well?  [+] (27 replies) 07/10/2015 on Triggers -3
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#60 - infinitereaper (07/11/2015) [-]
Because he's a hypocrite who likes to annoy me.
OP's logic is stupid. Because society largely favors females.

This is the reality, you can't just shove your head up your ass and pretend everything is equal.
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#116 - Deeticky (07/11/2015) [-]
I haven't seen anybody say that everything is equal. If it was, there would be no reason to try and fight to make it better.

"Society largely favors females"... Would you care to provide any evidence to support your claim? A simple read through a history book would show us that through the vast majority of cultures and time periods, society has favored males.
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#118 - infinitereaper (07/11/2015) [-]
Yeah, that's totally why we went to war, fought sabre caught and shed our blood time and time again, dying for the woman and the family. If you know anything about anything you know that society has always placed men dead last.

There's plenty all this pro women education aid and career programs, education being catered to females. Child custody. Alimony to greedy cunts.

Please grow some god damned brain cells.
I'm tired of trying to educate people who refuse to do the fucking research themselves. Just going through life like blind idiots.

saying naive and stupid shit and disregarding the realities
which by the way, is the exact OPPOSITE way to make the world better
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#121 - Deeticky (07/11/2015) [-]
I think it is very unfortunate you feel the need to engage in ad-hominem attacks. You do understand that if you were actually correct, your evidence would speak for itself and there would be no need for name-calling? Women didn't fight in many older historical armies because they were considered too weak. As the women's rights movement has advanced, we see women taking a much greater role in the military.

It is only relatively recently that women have surpassed men in terms of education. For most of history, men were more likely to be educated than women. As the field of child psychology continues to expand, hopefully education will be capable of ensuring that children both sexes are able to learn effectively (See, that's part of our fight for equality).

Anyway, you've picked a couple of examples of areas where women have advantages (such as in court). Having a few advantages does not mean that they are favored by society as a whole. Studies have shown us that women are far more likely to be raped/sexually assaulted, more likely to be injured or killed as a result of physical abuse by a partner, more likely to develop an eating disorder, and more likely to develop depression. Not only that, but many religious texts (which absolutely have an effect on modern society) also frame women as inferior.

You seem to be getting extremely angry about this topic. You do know that study in psychology has shown that heavy anger partially shuts down the logic-processing centers of the brain, don't you? Have you had some bad experiences with women in the past? Have you felt rejected by them? I'm really not trying to be condescending here, I ask this because I used to think in similar ways to you, and that stemmed from my own fear of rejection.
#123 - infinitereaper (07/11/2015) [-]
No, even if I was wrong I'd still insult you. Literally doesn't change the fact that men have been placed as sacrifices for the whole. You're trying to justify it so god damned much it almost makes me think you are a stupid woman. Or just a cuck faggot.

Hope doesn't spin the world.

Oh boo the fuck hoo. Men live shorter lives, suffer more heart disease, and much better at committing suicide. Most of women's problems are self inflicted. You know what? Female happiness has been on the decline since they got the right to vote.

Feminism quite literally has been increasing while happiness has been decreasing.
I guess that happens when you've always got something to bitch about, and things actually start getting a little more "equal".

I think I'd eat most psychologists alive. Understanding human beings is like second nature to me. My years of observation plus my shrewd personality type, the master of them all. That combined with my disgusting ability to empathize and my intuition and its like a fucking game.

If I'm calling you an idiot it's because you're a god damned idiot.
It's literally a fact of science that women are physically inferior.

Because not all things are equal dipshit. And this has nothing to do with a society that has equal opportunities. Absolute equality is a great evil. I'm sure you read that fucking short story.
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#134 - Deeticky (07/15/2015) [-]
Replying to your comment #133.

I have been trying to have a decent conversation with you. You're the one who decided to get angry, call names, engage in ad-hominem attacks and then sum it all up by saying that you hate me.

I have honestly been trying to better understand you. It's fine if you think my ideas are fallacious. I obviously think the same about your ideas. There's nothing wrong with having a disagreement. All I would like is to be treated with a little bit of respect and courtesy. You and I don't seem to be all that different. We both have suffered from chronic pain all throughout our lives. We both have tried to numb that pain using drugs (I was highly addicted to sleeping pills a number of years back), we both would like to see drugs decriminalized, we both agree that environmental pollution/global warming is a serious issue, and we both want universal healthcare in this country.

We also obviously disagree on a number of things, but does that really justify hatred? If so, then what does that hatred accomplish? How do you intend to accomplish your goals (such as a more intelligent human race, universal healthcare, decriminalization of drugs, etc.)? Given that we exist within a democratic society, do you plan to use democracy in some way to achieve your desired ends? Or do you plan to change the system?
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#135 - infinitereaper (07/15/2015) [-]
We differ in the most important of ways. You don't seem to realize why there is reason to be angry, but if knew what I knew you'd be angry, it's obvious that despite any amount of agreement you are simply unaware.

Humanity has forfeited it's future, the next 100 years will be ugly, corruption rules the day and everything is so corrupt it's not even, it would be easier to point things out that aren't. The food supply, human health, even scientific advancement. Ugh. Special interest, and mega corps.

My plan to to survive as long as possible and acquire as much wealth as possible, so that I may fund the scientific minds will help create my ticket to the future, maybe even our future.

Humanity is doomed. Either I survive long enough to get ahead of the curve or die trying. Morality is pointless. "Understanding" people is pointless.

I don't take you seriously because you're stuck in the human illusion. I doubt you even aware of the full scale of just how fucked the human world is, and how no system can change the tides brought on by the growing idiocracy. Whether or not you understand me doesn't matter.
#136 - anon (07/16/2015) [-]
**anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
**anonymous rolled image**You're both morons, Deeticky is an insult to the Ron Swanson icon he has, and infinitereaper is an edgy teen with an inferiority and superiority complex.
You're both right about some things, and you're both wrong about some other things. No one is right all the time. Deeticky, stop being such a wet blanket, the world isn't fucking perfect and people are stupid panicky creatures. infinitereaper stop being such an angry, entitled little cunt rag, just because people are stupid and Deeticky is naive doesn't mean he's an idiot, his arguments are well founded in logic as far as he knows. Yes psychology is a failure of a field of science, because it's a fucking social science that's linked to sociology, it's all maths and numbers at the end of the day anyway.
Psychology works to label personality types because humans like to label things, it's what we fucking do, you can stick as much science and chemicals behind a label as you want, at the end of the day, it means jack fucking shit. As long as people agree on how things work, that's how they work. If someone looks at the colour blue and tells people it's green and the other colour is blue, there's something wrong with him. Of course there is, the person is a fuck-bag. If that person really saw green and blue as reversed colours, he would have no fucking way to communicate that, because he's been taught all his life to call them those colours, if his eyes were broken and he registered the colours differently all his life, he'd have no way to reveal that. And it doesn't fucking matter.
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#137 - infinitereaper (07/16/2015) [-]
no one is listening to you anon
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#124 - Deeticky (07/11/2015) [-]
I never said that the sacrifices men have made were justifiable. As a man, I understand the sacrifices men have to make in modern society.

I find it humorous that you pretend to have the facts on your side, but instead just throw insults out to make up for your obvious lack of knowledge concerning the Scientific Method and civil debate practices. That's not how science works. That's not how civilized society works.

Contrary to your assertions, your personal feelings and "personality type" do not make you better at understanding people than a person with a P.H.D. and decades of psychological research under their belt would be.

Like I said previously, the anger you are displaying in this conversation does nothing to help your case. In fact, anger slows down your brain's ability to empathize with others just the same way that it slows down your ability to think logically. This is supported by both scientific research and classical philosophy.

I will ask again: Why do you feel the need to be so angry? Do you think that being angry will cause me to agree with you? Because psychological research shows us that anger is counterproductive to teaching things to another person. Are you angry because the though of "hurting my feelings" gives you some sort of pleasure? Well, I'll tell you that your insults don't have any effect on me. I've been called a "faggot" on the internet before. You aren't the first. Big deal.

So then, why so angry?
#125 - infinitereaper (07/11/2015) [-]
People who go to school to understand people can never understand people.
This is basically guaranteed. All that textbook analogy. Please! Understanding people is as simple as understanding people. It's not complicated.
And I'm angry because you're an idiot. Idiots and ignorance doom humanity.

Therefore I am angry because the existence of idiots directly threatens the future of this species. To cut it short. Use your logic to jump to the next conclusions and this is the truth.

The ignorance of the masses in a democratic society leads to nothing but idocracy and more stupid choices.

Like the war on drugs.
That isn't reason, that isn't logic, it's pure and utter irrational delusion.
#126 - Deeticky (07/12/2015) [-]
Ok, so you believe I am an idiot and my existence threatens the future of humanity. That's fine. You're free to believe what you want.

You know what? Understanding people actually is very complicated. The human brain is more complex than any other data processor we have. Moreover, the field of genetics has shown us that a single genetic mutation can cause a person's brain to form completely differently, altering their personality. This large level of complexity is why the field of psychology (a globally respected science) exists.

You know what actually is dooming humanity? Anger. Anger is what drives us to war (yes, including the war on drugs), and anger is what causes us to waste time squabbling over petty issues while big oil and energy corporations pollute and destroy the environment.

Do you know what the most important piece of the scientific method is? Peer-review. The peer-review process is what allows us to differentiate between fact and feelings. If a person claims to to be able to fly, but is not able to demonstrate this ability to others, we know that person's claim was illegitimate. This is why the field of psychology trumps your feelings. Assuming that you can completely "understand people" based on your feelings is not reasonable or logical. "It's pure and utter irrational delusion.

Do you do drugs? I'm honestly not trying to be rude or presumptive here. I am just trying to understand why you are so fixed on your feelings, rather than on scientific evidence. I've only ever seen this much self-fixation from two groups of people before: Mental patients (who often times are dealing with ilnesses that alter their brain's chemistry) and drug users (who use substances to alter their brain's chemistry).
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#127 - infinitereaper (07/12/2015) [-]
H aha ha ha no it isn't. Most carry the common personality types and tend to be predictable, the rest lies within genetic diversity. Our bodies are vastly complicated. But people are not.

Wrong. Ignorance. The true evil.

>respectable field of science

pick one.

I'm not sure you know the first god damned things about drugs, pharmacology or plasticity. I speak complete rationality, all feelings aside. Besides, changing chemistry isn't a bad things. Shrooms have been implicated in nuerogenesis personality enhancement and strengthening connects between areas of the brain, or creating new ones.

I have zero respect for psychologists and people who pursue that field. It's a joke. A neurobiology would be a different story. Actual science. Not just a bunch of case studies looking for correlations which don't even account for the endless genetic variables.

You believe you understand, but in reality, you'll just playing pretend. I'm the real deal, which is why, and believe me when I say this, you don't understand shit and will get your ass handed to you if you cross the wrong people. For your own safety, I suggest you stop being so cocky.

I'm free to believe the truth. Everyone of us has a role to play, collectively we should strive for the betterment of our species. But there are too many stupid fucks running around.

I'm fixated on the truth. You're just another "parasite" playing make believe.
People, our bodies, these vessels, our brains. Whatever you want to call "us".
Science is the only way to decipher it.

But psychology is NEVER going to allow us to upload our brains into machines for example.
It's useless.

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#128 - Deeticky (07/13/2015) [-]
It saddens me to see a person so lost in their own small world. I will get my "ass handed" to me if I cross the "wrong people?" What are you even talking about? The Illuminati? Your vague threats mean nothing to me.

>These "personality types" that you cling so dearly to came out of the field of psychology. Despite psychology having been embraced as a legitimate scientific field by academics worldwide, you feel you are somehow qualified to rule that psychology is not a respectable field of science.

>You call yourself "the real deal" and then call me "cocky" in the very next sentence.

>You pretend to be on the side of science, yet completely reject the scientific method when forming your delusional beliefs.

>You pretend to "strive for the betterment of our species," yet you refuse to engage people in any sort of honest discourse, opting instead to be openly hostile.

I'll say it again. I have never, ever, ever, seen such a self-centered mindset come out of anybody but drug users and mental patients. You seem to believe that you are superior to most of humanity, yet cannot seem to back that belief up in any way. I wouldn't be surprised if you had an underlying mental condition that was exacerbated by your drug use. I think that would certainly explain your attitude and ignorance.
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#129 - infinitereaper (07/13/2015) [-]
And your words mean nothing to me. That's all you have on the internet.
You haven't said a single thing that has impressed me.

I suffer from chronic pain. So frankly, I don't give a shit.
You have no proof of anything you say either. Nothing. Nada Zip.
I have no reason to believe your words.

It's just a farce, but since you like to play pretend so much, it's obvious it's going to bite you in the ass eventually. In one form or another.

And nice "evidence" there m8.
Like I said. You don't understand anything. You're just a fucking idiot too stupid to understand people on your own.
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#132 - Deeticky (07/14/2015) [-]
I had to reply to this comment again because the website would not allow me to reply to your most recent comment.

I'm very sorry to hear that you have a condition which causes you to suffer. Chronic pain is incredibly difficult to live with (I know that all too well). Honestly, I would like to see more drugs legalized for healthcare purposes. I don't have a problem with people using drugs for health reasons, the problem comes when people without the proper education and training self-medicate using illicit drugs.

I agree with you that the American healthcare system is broken (Don't forget, I have also had to deal with it throughout my whole life). That is something I am actively campaigning to fix right now.

You say that we live in a world where idiocy reigns supreme, yet global literacy rates are higher than they have ever been before. We are living in the middle of a technological Renaissance, with access to more information than any other human being who has come before us.

Brain size has nothing to do with intelligence. Elephants and whales have brains that are significantly larger than humans. Does that mean that they are more intelligent than we are?

You said you have zero tolerance for what you perceive as other people's idiocy. Is that why you call me names on the internet? What does that accomplish exactly? You sound like you have some goals for yourself (to "seize power," etc.). How do you plan to accomplish your goals? You said you would not let anyone stand in your way, what does that mean? Why is it, that you chose to use an intimidating tone in your last post (the tone having been set by your attached image)?

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#133 - infinitereaper (07/14/2015) [-]
Thread limits. It happens.
I care not. All drugs should be decriminalized. It isn't the choice of the government nor anyone else what you put into your body, nor all all drugs the same. Psychedelics being a prime example. There is a war on drugs, and the medical industry is full of shit. None of that helps or can help. Thankfully there is much more information and collaboration on substances on the internet than there used to be.

Then you should know it cannot be fixed. Not in it's current state. The profit machine of healthcare needs to be abolished and replaced with nationalized universal healthcare. As well as accountability for doctors to actually deliver fucking results.

People can read sure, doesn't mean they actually read. Like my word play there?
If democracy has proven anything it's the ignorance of the masses. Just look at how may people doubt global warming because of the deception by the industry and special interest. Or what about the state of the food supply? People are idiots.

You might have a point except that our brain size is shrinking faster than our bodies are. The proof is in the EQ.

Frankly, because I don't give a shit. My only concern is myself. Waste my time and hostility you will find. Spout nonsense and you will aggravate me.

If you had a single redeeming quality, and managed to show a hint of actual understanding out of your game of pretend, I might actually be able to hold a decent conversation with you.

But all I hear are stupid misconceptions, and ideological fallices I heard a million times before.
And I'm not going to fucking spoonfeed you.

I hate you because I understand what you are but you do not.
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#130 - Deeticky (07/14/2015) [-]
In 2012, I had a major spinal fusion surgery to correct a 90 degree kyphosis (hunchback). I suffer from severe chronic pain as well. I don't need illicit drugs to deal with that. My mental fortitude and willpower allow me to keep moving forward despite the pain (with a little help from some Advil).

Also, I am not trying to impress you. I honestly just want to understand why someone who appears to be educated (at least when it comes to spelling and grammar) feels the need to be so hostile towards other people. As a person with a hunchback, I was terribly bullied from elementary through high school. I want to better understand why people feel the need to be so hostile, like my bullies were.

So far, you have called me a "stupid woman," "a cuck faggot," "an idiot ," "a goddamned idiot", "dipshit," "a parasite," and "a fucking idiot."

Do you act that way in real life? Or just over the internet? What do you feel like that accomplishes? Why do you so readily engage in name-calling (the lowest form of debate)?
#131 - infinitereaper (07/14/2015) [-]
In 1994 I was born, and little did I know years of a degenerate unknown incurable disease would slowly ravage my body leaving me with an untreated condition and symptoms, part of which result in chronic pain throughout my abdomen. An entire life time of both pain and illness wearing me down since the moment I was born.
Don't talk about drugs like you know anything about them. To begin with. What I need is to be pain free, and I have to turn to a species of tree related to the coffee plant for 2 chemicals that are partial agonist of my u and something else receptor. Because American healthcare is a god damned joke filled with ignorant, arrogant doctors who would rather have people suffer needlessly in pain.

Because I have zero tolerance for other people's idiocy. This broken vessel of mine more than anything has taught me that you can't rely on anyone but yourself, because we live in a world were stupidity and ignorance reigns supreme. I am trapped, entangled in those strings. But as long as my heart still beats I will seize power. I will not let morons continue to stand in my way.

Because you can't argue with idiots.
To be honest you sound like some naive.
I hate those illusions.

I aim to break those illusions. To watch people crumble under the weight of their own sins. The playing field is finally equal. And the majority of humanity just can't handle it.

The average human brain is shrinking, and will shrink even more. Natural selection is out the window.
Society is plagued by a species on decline.

I have no tolerance for such people.
I have no tolerance for anyone who stands in my way.
#109 - anon (07/11/2015) [-]
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#66 - thetraezgoby (07/11/2015) [-]
why not just be an individual and not feel the need to subscribe to a certain group? why not just be yourself and not get pissed off by what other people think?

let's for arguments sake assume that women are 'preferred' in society. what are you gonna do about it? get pissed off? or just be a fucking man and take what the world throws at you
#67 - infinitereaper (07/11/2015) [-]
The truth is the truth. Blinding yourself to it like an idiot accomplishes nothing.

Just because you ignore society's problems doesn't make them go away.
#70 - thetraezgoby (07/11/2015) [-]
when did I ever say to be ignorant to the truth? you seem to think the only solution to problems is to be bitter about them. I however endorse accepting the truth and doing the best you possibly can with it.
#71 - infinitereaper (07/11/2015) [-]
Because you are trying to fucking discount actual quantifying data on the differences between sexes. This is not only wrong, but stupid and retarded. If you wanna live your life as a cuck whiten knight be my guest. Data does actually fucking matter.
#72 - thetraezgoby (07/11/2015) [-]
I'm not discounting them, I look em in the fucking eye and say "I just don't care". See how that works?
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#62 - welliguessitsaname (07/11/2015) [-]
Enlighten us. How does society favor females?
#69 - cabbagemayhem (07/11/2015) [-]
that's a loaded question -- where to begin? see pic for starters. men have their favoritisms too. society is fair without special interests groups creating inequality.
#39 - My friend, you seem fairly educated, so I think you need to lo…  [+] (4 replies) 07/07/2015 on Schöne blaue Augen +2
#55 - tck (07/07/2015) [-]
Oh and I forgot to add more to the point of Wikipedia's claim that the Nazis avoided specific mentions of killings in records:

I read at some point that, knowing the above to be factually true, the death toll is calculated using mentions of "departed" because one of the ruses used to lure prisoners to execution was being told that they were being transferred to another camp. What I ask is this - is it unlikely that they actually were transferring them between camps, before deportation? If that were the case, it would mean that the same person could show up as a death multiple times without necessarily even dying, depending on how many times he was transferred.
#54 - tck (07/07/2015) [-]
4. I actually had the opposite experience when looking at the official record; Wikipedia claims multiple times that the Nazis were meticulous in planning a "ghost atrocity which they hoped could never be linked to them." It says they avoided any blatant or specific mentions of killings in records or speeches; that they used "ruses" to lure groups of prisoners to execution, so as to make sure if the other prisoners lived they couldn't claim they heard of the others being executed; and that they ordered all mass graves burned and "ashes of the bodies spread in such a specifically planned way as to make a body count impossible, which is why we'll never know for sure just how many innocent lives were taken." It seems so far fetched to me that I don't know why more people aren't questioning it. As far as speeches go, it said they would talk of removing Jews from the country as a milder way of saying killing all Jews, without being incriminated for it. Furthermore, it's said that camps had such things as zoos and swimming pools, and Wikipedia claims that these were made to create plausible deniability as to the purpose of the camps. I'm not saying I know for a fact what happened, but I can't wrap my head around all these things being true at the same time. It seems to me that the holocaust itself is a conspiracy theory, while doubting it is the path of least assumptions based on the evidence provided (Occam's Razor).

On a more social note, why is it that we only hear talk of the Jews who were killed, when the holocaust killed 9 million white civilians? The answer I hear to that is often, "because they were killed specifically for being Jews," but that's different from making this an event against solely Jews, which is what it's represented as. Jewish people are legitimately the richest people in the world, and they own much of the media; this isn't hidden at all, they are proud to be Jews. So we know that money buys exposure; is it the case that money now buys truth?

Anyway, I think that covers most of my observations on the whole thing.
#53 - tck (07/07/2015) [-]
1. I agree that intuition isn't a citation-worthy source. That was mostly just a glimpse into what personally sparked my interest. However, certain personalities are inherently intuitive; I believe it's possible that the reason the officers in the study seemed to have the same results as random chance, is that only a portion of them had that personality trait. As an ENTJ personality (inb4 someone says, "oh wow an ENTJ defending Hitler? How shocking." I'm aware Hitler was ENTJ as well, heard all the jokes before.) I rely on intuition//logic/experience as measures of a situation. Though the evidence is anecdotal, I've found myself correct when hearing the confessed truth more often than not (my personality dictates that if I found myself proven incorrect I would change my thought patterns until they yielded correct results consistently; experience would show my old methods incorrect). Which is to say, since everyone is good at something, and no one is good at everything, I think that it would make sense for the average to balance out to what seems like random chance if some of them have the skill and some do not. So while I wouldn't try using my intuition to prove something right or wrong, it's enough to convince me myself, at least partially.

2. When a group of people make it apparent that they're willing to lie about something that was supposed to be so horrible, I can't help but wonder how much of it is true at all. If it were as horrible as they claim, they wouldn't lie about it. It just seems that they're angry at being imprisoned, so they had an unspoken agreement to up the carnage factor in revenge. I obviously believe that people were rounded up and imprisoned; however it seems to me that it was for the purpose of deportation and extradition. The spearhead evidence for the holocaust comes from the pictures taken of the prisons that were raided which show prisoners in terrible shape; but at that point in the war the supply lines had been bombed to hell months prior and everyone in all of Germany was starving, even the soldiers and civilians. So it makes sense that the prisoners would be too. I believe that there was a holocaust, and it killed about 200,000 people, but it was caused by starvation and disease due to the dire circumstances at the end of the war. Can you imagine what we'd be hearing about the United States if the tables were turned and the Germans and Japanese raided the internment camps containing several hundred thousand starving Japanese civilians? (Even though I highly doubt Germany would have invaded the US more than what would have been necessary to force a cease fire.)

3. I don't think it's really debated that the Soviets were cruel and hateful to the Nazis when they invaded Germany, is it? Knowing that, how could we possibly think that there would be a fair trial for them? If those who conducted the trial were willing to disclose pic related and allow it to be an official part of the record, I shudder to think what kinds of things were said/done that they didn't want on the record especially with the Soviets involved. If a Nazi did claim that they weren't mass executing, do you think it would be recorded in the trial? Or does it seem likely that the huge circle of victorious countries knew they could write whatever history they wanted, so they waited until they heard what they needed to hear, and ignored everything else (whether it was forced confession or whether the Nazi officials said something along the lines of, "we rounded up and imprisoned them in an effort to remove them from the country," which could easily be twisted into, "we rounded them up in an effort to exterminate them.")? And as well, let me ask you this: do you trust the modern US/EU governments at all? Why, then, do you trust the US and Allied European governments of 1945? Governments will always say what makes them seem the good guys, in victory. Look at the American Civil War; or even something as small as Snowden.

#49 - tck (07/07/2015) [-]
I appreciate a well-written reply that isn't emotional. I'll reply when I'm not on the way to the gym.
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#351 - pebar (07/07/2015) [-]
lower left is Macro Rubio
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#393 - Deeticky (07/08/2015) [-]
You're absolutely right (I get their faces mixed up sometimes).