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#122 - That's why I work in music. One of these few places machines c…  [+] (19 new replies) 05/09/2016 on When workers demand $15 an... +1
#150 - mayoroftownsville (05/10/2016) [-]
Computers have produced music that could not be distinguished from human-made music in blind tests.
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#155 - Deavas (05/10/2016) [-]
Even if that weren't ridiculous, people still listen to vinyl records and record to tape. It's a humans job
#156 - mayoroftownsville (05/10/2016) [-]
Why wouldn't computers be able to convert to vinyl or tape? What are you even saying?

arstechnica.com/science/2009/09/virtual-composer-makes-beautiful-musicand-stirs-controversy/
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#157 - Deavas (05/10/2016) [-]
It's not about converting to tape it's about humans beating able to hear things that a computer would never understand
It could probably mix a shitty generic pop song but outside if that there's too much human element. Especially when the artist wants it done a certain way
#158 - mayoroftownsville (05/10/2016) [-]
Emily (the name of the program) makes classical music, not "shitty pop." You're seriously underestimating the power of computers. Eventually, probably sooner than any of us could predict, computers will be able to emulate the human brain. After that, they can only surpass it. Computers will continue to advance far beyond the capabilities even imaginable by humans because they are built, while humans can only "upgrade" through slow evolution.
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#159 - Deavas (05/10/2016) [-]
yeah okay. ill just sit here while i let that machine set up the mics or figure out whats wrong when i dont get a signal from either a broken cable or broken mic or broken channel etc or adjust a mic positioning to get a better sound.
meanwhile the human who wants a specific thing from the performance will perform lackluster while only having a computer to talk to, if anything at all, and will not be able to convey sound desires. and good fucking luck in a live sound environment
and i dont know what you mean by "making" classical music but that is less about unique sound quality and rather sound clarity and leveling anyway.
#160 - mayoroftownsville (05/10/2016) [-]
Machines can potentially do all of the things you named. Robots are getting more and more nimble all the time, that's not something special and distinctly human. As for solving problems, that's practically what computers were made for. If a computer is emulating a human brain then of course it would be able to communicate any musical ideas that a human would.

Emily composes original pieces of classical music. That's what I mean by making it. What the hell do you mean that's about "sound clarity and leveling?"
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#161 - Deavas (05/10/2016) [-]
nobody will ever let a computer's ears do a mix or them, unless theyre being "daring" and want some experimental shit. never gonna happen

and when you say composes, do you mean writes? records? makes music with samples? learning music theory is easy. now put it to practical use. and i mean you want every instrument to come through the mix clearly. youre not trying to make some rad experimental mix with 50 different reverbs and distortions. just some compression and eq is fine. not to mention editing if you splice together different takes.
#162 - mayoroftownsville (05/10/2016) [-]
It writes the music. How are you a musician if you don't even know what "composing" is? Human ears are just as capable of being simulated as a human brain. The computer doesn't need anyone's permission. Once a computer with all the necessary capabilities to make its own music has been created and turned on, it will just do so. The music could be released without any human intervention - nobody would even have to know a computer made it. You seem to be hung up on the idea that the computer would be somehow working with humans to make music, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying that in the future, every single step in the process of creating a song will be doable by computers, and likely better than any human could.
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#163 - Deavas (05/10/2016) [-]
i know what composing is but i was expecting it to be more impressive from the way you described it
#164 - mayoroftownsville (05/10/2016) [-]
If you wanted them to be playing physical instruments and performing live with improvisation, no we're not there yet. The main priority of musical computing research is in composition for the time being, but I can guarantee that it could be done. There are machines capable of diagnosing patients and performing surgery while responding to complications and new information, the only reason we don't have machines that can take the place of live bands is a lack of effort.
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#165 - Deavas (05/10/2016) [-]
youre forgetting a robot sound engineer is not practical. nobody would invest in this, outside of experimental things. studios wouldnt buy one because they own their studios. labels wouldnt because they dont own studios.
its kinda like steam machines or audio. theres no market
#167 - mayoroftownsville (05/10/2016) [-]
It becomes a practical investment as soon as it's mass-producable. The moment a human sound engineer costs more to keep around than a robot with the same capabilities is the moment you get replaced. Long before that happens, robots will be running power plants and mines, providing all the power and raw material needed for new robots - building anything will cost nothing, so any robot built after that point is instantly capable of being mass-produced. It's only a matter of waiting for someone to try.
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#168 - Deavas (05/10/2016) [-]
except that nobody will do it because if you bring a robot into your studio, you are essentially firing yourself
#169 - mayoroftownsville (05/10/2016) [-]
Someone with no musical ability could easily open a studio and sell the services of their robot for cheaper than studios owned by sound engineers. Then the engineers would either have to get robots or go out of business.
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#170 - Deavas (05/10/2016) [-]
yes, they could. and nobody would do it, except poor local bands who cant afford real studio time.
#171 - mayoroftownsville (05/10/2016) [-]
As I've mentioned, eventually the robots will do it better, not just cheaper. Contrary to what you're saying, it will make absolutely zero sense to use a human sound engineer at that point.
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#173 - Deavas (05/10/2016) [-]
Yeah no. There's no purpose
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#166 - Deavas (05/10/2016) [-]
*for audio
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#65 - newbtwo (05/10/2016) [-]
Me too lmao
#1312853 - Yeah no I'm not seeing it 05/09/2016 on Pony Thread 15. 0
#1312851 - It's neet but the class sucks and I don't care enough to try b… 05/09/2016 on Pony Thread 15. 0
#1312842 - They do when you have my type of major No one cares what … 05/09/2016 on Pony Thread 15. 0
#1312840 - Cs get degrees  [+] (2 new replies) 05/09/2016 on Pony Thread 15. 0
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#1312841 - cupcakescankill (05/09/2016) [-]
but not jobs
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#1312842 - Deavas (05/09/2016) [-]
They do when you have my type of major
No one cares what you got in sociology when you're recording a band or a concert
#1312839 - Below average in things that don't matter Why should I put… 05/09/2016 on Pony Thread 15. 0
#1312836 - I'm pretty sure I answered all that already Don't care cos…  [+] (2 new replies) 05/09/2016 on Pony Thread 15. 0
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#1312837 - cupcakescankill (05/09/2016) [-]
I will never understand why someone would be satisfied with just being below average.
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#1312839 - Deavas (05/09/2016) [-]
Below average in things that don't matter
Why should I put effort into doing well in things that have very little to do with me