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#44 - Historians hate it because it's a ******* metaphorical anecdote .  [+] (9 replies) 08/27/2016 on Guys I did it +32
#69 - anon (08/28/2016) [-]
eh
it's a fun mystery until I get a better answer than "we don't really know so it's metaphor or it's just an anomaly (referring to out of place artifacts)
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#45 - ChromedDragon (08/27/2016) [-]
dispute me scurb
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#46 - Awesomenessniss (08/27/2016) [-]
"Atlantis (Ancient Greek: Ἀτλαντὶς νῆσος, "island of Atlas") is a fictional island mentioned within an allegory on the hubris of nations in Plato's works Timaeus and Critias, where it represents the antagonist naval power that besieges "Ancient Athens", the pseudo-historic embodiment of Plato's ideal state"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_ (Plato)
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#47 - ChromedDragon (08/27/2016) [-]
thats what they said about troy before 2001, dispute a poit made in the video, don't just say it's fictional
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#48 - Awesomenessniss (08/27/2016) [-]
No it isn't, scholarship on the City of Troy didn't start with the movie Troy. Ever since classical scholarship began there were scholars and researchers trying to find the truth about the city. It only happened to be that the actual city ruins were found after the movie was produced. Plato was not a historiographer, he was a philosopher. Iron Age had many rivals, and in that respect the allegory of Athens being able to crush an overwhelming rival fits snugly into that narrative of the importance of order in society.
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#49 - ChromedDragon (08/27/2016) [-]
the Atlanteans in the story don't have any kind of military prowess, they are only described as rich and diplomatic, read the passage from the timeaus
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#53 - Awesomenessniss (08/27/2016) [-]
Quis tua tam subito praeclusit murmura fato?
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#50 - Awesomenessniss (08/27/2016) [-]
How about you read Critias, where the full account of Atlantis is. Speaking of Timaeus: "Now in this island of Atlantis there existed a confederation of kings, of great and marvellous power, which held sway over all the island, and over many other islands also and parts of the continent; and, moreover, of the lands here within the Straits they ruled over Libya as far as Egypt, and over Europe as far as Tuscany. So this host, being all gathered together, made an attempt one time to enslave by one single onslaught both your country and ours and the whole of the territory within the Straits." (Timaeus. 25a-b)

The entire point of the dialogue was how the conceit of Atlantis was their downfall. They became conquerors after they lost the teachings Poseidon founded their civilization on. They waged war against the ancient Athens and lost because they lacked the proper structure and discipline.
#86 - anon (08/28/2016) [-]
How about you faggots throw Timaeus and Critias away and bow down to my Claw of Hermos. IN ATTACK MODE.
#36 - Picture  [+] (1 reply) 08/27/2016 on prayforpeace is a little bitch +1
#57 - funnyhat (08/27/2016) [-]
man, I miss the hype for Vivian James
#19 - This is an ahistorical treatment of Roman politics that doesn'…  [+] (5 replies) 08/25/2016 on Romans deal with migrants +1
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#26 - angrybacteria (08/25/2016) [-]
Just what I was thinking. Citizenship today is rather cheap. Do you live here? Are you intending to live a long time / the rest of your life? Boom, go get yourself citizenship and all that comes with it. Roman citizenship is a privileged position that people have to work for. Yes the politician here in the clip is terrible, but he is right about one thing: Romans should not just "grant" citizenship.

Or maybe I'm just interpreting the movie wrong.
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#30 - Awesomenessniss (08/25/2016) [-]
And OP was just looking for a cheap shot against the modern immigration crisis but clearly didn't take into account that it was the Romans invading Germania and putting people under the fold of the Empire, not the other way around
#20 - destroymen (08/25/2016) [-]
Are you saying this is like one of those fictional remakes of history?!?!?
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#27 - sebthebrony (08/25/2016) [-]
why are you comparing it to a modern problematic then?
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#21 - Awesomenessniss (08/25/2016) [-]
No, I'm saying it's a fictional narrative based on real life politics that doesn't necessarily 100% reflect the source materials
#13 - Picture 08/25/2016 on Nico Nico Knee +1