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[untitled]. science is brilliant you filthy casual. This map circle is too complex to be made by humans! Ever_ Veinte someone makes this argument, ll imagine th

science is brilliant you filthy casual

This map circle is
too complex to
be made by
Ever_ Veinte someone makes this argument,
ll imagine them saying it whilst sitting inside die
giant metal wasp "Y, was exploding goo million
you old harvested animal remains in order to spin
blades Fast enough to hover stationary
in the air which allowed the photo to be taken.
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#1 - doujinshi (01/12/2014) [-]
User avatar #21 to #1 - commontroll (01/12/2014) [-]
Implying I have enough money to have any of those things...
User avatar #48 to #21 - elcreepo ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
You're on a computer, therefore...
User avatar #49 to #48 - commontroll (01/13/2014) [-]
I have a ****** , 5 year old laptop. I do not have a wireless keyboard, I do not have a plasma screen, I do not have fiber optic cables for internet.
User avatar #50 to #49 - elcreepo ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
Other than the wireless keyboard, if you have a laptop, you have a plasma screen

And the internet is run along fiber optic cables within your modem and computer, and then your ISP, which allow you to send your message.

5 year old laptops aren't that old for technology, brah. Computers all work generally the same unless they're 50 years old
User avatar #52 to #50 - commontroll (01/13/2014) [-]
No, we don't have fiber optics in my area. I don't have fiber optics. Brah. I know they go to the modem, but they have to be installed in the ground, which they're not.
User avatar #53 to #52 - elcreepo ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
You would not be able to talk to me unless you had a fiber optic cable... the cables that transmit electricity are fiber optic, as well as the ones that transmit messages/sound/light waves to be converted electronically...

I'm unsure, not a tech person, but what you are using is a miracle of impossible technology that was made possible using science. Even if you refuse to see it that way.
User avatar #54 to #53 - commontroll (01/13/2014) [-]
Pretty sure they're not. Most are copper, as fiber optic cables are a relatively recent invention. All I was doing was making a joke about the picture assuming I had any of those things. Christ.
#191 to #54 - dillonanthony (01/13/2014) [-]
At some point your signal will be sent through a fiber optic network.

The tier 1 backbone, is pretty much only Fiber optic, which connects to other FIBER optic networks, that stretch across the planet to every country on earth, through cables. Unless you have satellite internet, your signal will never go to space. It's all done through fiber.

Fiber optics is also not a new invention, I believe it was invented in 1970 for data use.

And started making up the backbone of the internet in the early 1980s

By now, the entire backbone, and a large number of tier 2 ISPs have converted to sole use of fiber optics.


Tier 1 networks are closer to the backbone of the Internet.
In reality, tier 1 networks usually have only a small number of peers (typically only other tier 1 networks and very large tier 2 networks), while tier 2 networks are motivated to peer with many other tier 2 and end-user networks. Thus a tier 2 Network with good peering is frequently much closer to most end users than a tier 1.
Tier 1 networks by definition offer better quality Internet connectivity.
By definition, there are networks which tier 1 networks have only one path to, and if they lose that path, they have no backup transit which preserves their continuous connectivity.
Some tier 2 networks are significantly larger than some tier 1 networks, and are often able to provide more or better connectivity.
Tier 2 networks are resellers of services from tier 1 networks.
Only tier 3 networks (who provide Internet access) are true resellers, while many large tier 2 networks peer with the majority or even vast majority of the Internet directly except for a small portion of the Internet which is reached via a transit provider.
User avatar #57 to #54 - elcreepo ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
Oh, well, I'm not a techie.

It just came off like you were dismissing the marvel of today's tech
#140 to #57 - anon (01/13/2014) [-]
Pretty sure fiber optics can only be used for data transference through the use of light.
User avatar #215 to #140 - elcreepo ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
This is why I'm thankful for dillonanthony.

I can't explain this **** , but I do know that at some point there's a cable and it gives the internet.
User avatar #46 to #1 - brainiacs (01/13/2014) [-]

"Science is all a bunch of man made hogwash"
#109 to #1 - ilikefudge (01/13/2014) [-]
I expected it to say "all so you could type, ur such a fagit"
User avatar #114 to #1 - isabossfulla ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
My computer is 10 years old..
User avatar #142 to #114 - PadreRasta (01/13/2014) [-]
Still works the same way, just faster.
#176 to #1 - baitdoesnttalkback (01/13/2014) [-]
science? you mean magic's accountant
User avatar #84 to #1 - trojanmannn (01/13/2014) [-]
I've never heard anyone say that
#146 to #1 - zviiper (01/13/2014) [-]
15000 miles away? Where the **** are you?
User avatar #208 to #146 - commontroll (01/13/2014) [-]
Center of the earth. That's why he's 15,000 miles away from EVERYBODY.

Question is, how did he get fiber optics that long?
User avatar #18 to #1 - mcrut (01/12/2014) [-]
wireless casuals
User avatar #37 to #1 - neednsfw (01/13/2014) [-]
no i did it so i could say stfu faggot
User avatar #3 to #1 - decapitation (01/12/2014) [-]
only scrubs use wireless
User avatar #5 to #3 - beatentoast (01/12/2014) [-]
When I ******* rek you in quake you see why wee use cords, N-key rollover bitches
#12 - obitouzumaki (01/12/2014) [-]
We have more in common with them than we thought.
User avatar #40 to #12 - timmmmmmmmmmmay (01/13/2014) [-]
Might wanna delete this. It got flagged the other day.
#41 to #40 - obitouzumaki (01/13/2014) [-]
Wait you guys are serious? I mean how can this, be something considered flag worthy?
Wait you guys are serious? I mean how can this, be something considered flag worthy?
User avatar #56 to #41 - lesrin (01/13/2014) [-]
this is more ban worthy then alot of things that have been banned, ever seen the jinx gif? the one from league? she bites her lip and its ban worthy
User avatar #92 to #56 - eating (01/13/2014) [-]
are you serious? people get banned for that? i mean i understand when mods flag dicks and real **** pictures, but thats just absurd

User avatar #138 to #92 - lesrin (01/13/2014) [-]
yup more then once, i posted to see if it was true, got banned, mods and dj armin are pretty strict with the bans
User avatar #42 to #41 - timmmmmmmmmmmay (01/13/2014) [-]
100% serious.
User avatar #29 to #12 - Faz (01/13/2014) [-]
I see alien penis, mods are gunna be pissed.
#107 to #12 - tacticalhog (01/13/2014) [-]
Admins FW dicks science.
Admins FW dicks science.
#38 to #12 - destroyerofcheese ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
Dicks in SFW
Dicks in SFW
#45 - varrlegrimscythe (01/13/2014) [-]
This is a giant metal hornet.
That is a giant metal house fly.
#14 - fruhest (01/12/2014) [-]
metric system and ****
User avatar #105 to #14 - ocatapus (01/13/2014) [-]
I think it means 40cm thick...
#134 to #105 - twentyten (01/13/2014) [-]
I doubt the blade is over a foot thick.
#178 to #134 - xxmemosxx (01/13/2014) [-]
I think he means in width not thickness
#217 to #178 - twentyten (01/13/2014) [-]
I assume the blade is fairly thin in any case. So thickness and width is pretty much similar for me. Even then, a 15-16" helicopter rotor-blade is pretty unrealistic.
#227 to #217 - xxmemosxx (01/14/2014) [-]
The blades are quite wide when seen up close They look quite narrow compared to the rest of the chopper but they are no more then a couple of inches thick.
#228 to #227 - twentyten (01/14/2014) [-]
I stand corrected. The Mi-26 is one of the largest helicopters with a blade chord length at almost 3ft. And the blade of the copter in the picture seems to about 15-16". 40cm does seem reasonable in this case.
User avatar #145 to #134 - ocatapus (01/13/2014) [-]
Yeah thats true im not sure what it means then.
#209 to #14 - anon (01/13/2014) [-]
it is still more than 1m not 40cm just compare it to the humans
User avatar #170 to #14 - lasmamoe (01/13/2014) [-]
"Guis stop laughing. I can fly.. Look.. Guis srsly"
#15 to #14 - anon (01/12/2014) [-]
40 cm wide, maybe?
#19 to #15 - angutar (01/12/2014) [-]
or a typo for dm
#135 - mentaljuvenile (01/13/2014) [-]
or was it the japanese?
#11 - zourch ONLINE (01/12/2014) [-]
yet if you were the leader of a island tribe you guys would't invent baloney
yet if you were the leader of a island tribe you guys would't invent baloney
User avatar #47 to #11 - chimfer (01/13/2014) [-]
True but only because baloneys already been done
User avatar #69 to #47 - thelastamerican ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
Baloney is a food created out of pure desperation. I can't remember what war it was, but Bologna Italy was under siege and they had eaten everything there was to eat. Out of desperation they began boiling leather so that they could eat that. After a couple pelts had been boiled in the same pot without washing (No water for washing, they had to drink any they could find) they started scraping the residue off the sides of the pots and making a sausage out of it. So I doubt that anyone on an island would invent bologna, much less actually call it that.
User avatar #118 - kwag (01/13/2014) [-]
I think the man who said this crap was far too complex should be introduced to Minecraft.....
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User avatar #122 to #121 - kwag (01/13/2014) [-]
User avatar #123 to #122 - smartyben **User deleted account** (01/13/2014) [-]
THE END IS FALLING, THE END IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
User avatar #125 to #123 - kwag (01/13/2014) [-]
You should look up the youtube video "I'm moving to the Nether." It's pretty cool
#4 - pappathethird (01/12/2014) [-]
Well ...
User avatar #31 - baditch (01/13/2014) [-]
The challenging part of it is that the crop circles follow dimensions that are nearly impossible to create without precise instruments. Furthermore, most of these crop circles are reported to have appeared in a matter of hours. That's where the mystery really lies. Otherwise it could just be some kids playing a joke.
#120 to #31 - anon (01/13/2014) [-]
If somebody had precise instruments to make said difficult dimensions, would it not make sense for them to also have access to a machine or tool that can make a crop circle quickly?
User avatar #126 to #120 - popkornking (01/13/2014) [-]
And what kind of machine would we be talking about that is designed specifically to compact crops into intricate geometric patterns?
#22 - bitchesbanthymine (01/12/2014) [-]
People have been caught creating crop circles numerous times, and often people admit to it afterwards.
People have been caught creating crop circles numerous times, and often people admit to it afterwards.
#143 - anon (01/13/2014) [-]
User avatar #177 to #143 - Vegeto (01/13/2014) [-]
It's been almost 2 years. Stop complaining.
#163 to #143 - anon (01/13/2014) [-]
Comment Picture
User avatar #43 - Leopard (01/13/2014) [-]
One has a practical purpose that generates money, the other is useless manhours which makes it a little unbelievable.
#98 to #43 - anon (01/13/2014) [-]
What tells you it is useless ?
User avatar #35 - wajaa ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
i could just imagine

"hey guys it's 10 at night, do you want to **** up that guy corn field for the next 8 hours?"

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#85 - swagbot (01/13/2014) [-]
Crop circles are friggin' cool.

Why can't we just admit that they're done by humans and enjoy the art?
#112 to #85 - palindromia (01/13/2014) [-]
because they destroy crops and cost farmers a lot of money.
#137 to #112 - swagbot (01/13/2014) [-]
(usually, crop circles are done on the stalks of harvested crops).
#88 to #85 - anon (01/13/2014) [-]
Crop circles are friggin' cool.

Why can't we just admit that they're done by humans and enjoy the art?

fixed it for you
User avatar #51 - delio (01/13/2014) [-]
Yeah its possible for humans to make crop circles but when we find radiation at said location then thats a different story. In most cases you don't hear about the radiation. Even still do you really think a human can make some of this crop circle designs in the middle of the night? Yeah its possible but they always seem to get more and more complex every time you see it on the news and such. Come on now, don't be stupid. We aren't the only living intelligent life in the universe. We are but a young idiotic species that thinks we are higher than god because we know science.
User avatar #127 to #51 - redrex (01/13/2014) [-]
to say crop circles are man made and saying there is no other intelligent beings in the universe are two completely different things. Plus, why would aliens come to Earth only to make crop circles?
User avatar #179 to #127 - delio (01/13/2014) [-]
What if they are coded messages? You know like a signal but they don't want the masses to know yet since it would cause mass hysteria and riots/ect
User avatar #225 to #179 - redrex (01/14/2014) [-]
or you can go with the more logical of the two
#89 to #51 - popeflatus (01/13/2014) [-]
If you 'don't hear about the radiation most of the time', how did you hear about it?
User avatar #59 to #51 - kievaughnb (01/13/2014) [-]
But the chance that intelligent life has even found our planet is ridiculously miniscule. It's nearly impossible that we've been visited by an intelligent race of aliens.
User avatar #60 to #59 - thelastamerican ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
Also, why try and communicate by making shapes in tall plants?
User avatar #70 to #60 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
Geometrical patterns?
Advanced math? There is math involved in everything, is it silly to think that aliens communicate through math? Assuming if they can fly to earth, they are more intelligent than us and have evolved beyond our forms of communication.

Just my 2 cents.
If they exist (which is a huge possibility) and can travel thousands to millions of light years, chances are they can communicate in ways other than speaking words.
User avatar #75 to #70 - thelastamerican ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
Why write it so big, and why destroy such a large amount of biomass? A lot of questions are raised when they communicate in this way. I would think that if they actually wanted to communicate they would actually show themselves. That usually helps the process along quite a bit.
User avatar #77 to #75 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
Or maybe they have studied the human race enough to know that we are not capable of accepting other beings yet?

Tell me this, if an alien came to earth right now, do you think we would accept it with open arms or try to nuke the **** out of it?
It sounds ridiculous and it really is, but possibilities are possibilities...
User avatar #79 to #77 - thelastamerican ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
I have no idea what I would do. It would depend on what the thing from the sky did. If it was doing something that would put humans at risk I would have to stop it. And if they've studded us so long that they know we wouldn't take kindly to strangers, then why are they trying to communicate in the first place?
User avatar #83 to #79 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
I don't know why they communicate if it is them.
Maybe they're telling us to stop acting like we're the be all end all of the universe because we're not? Every human could die right now and it would not stop the universe.
And it's not about what you would do to said alien, it's about what the majority would do, and that would be nuke it.
I don't know, it's a touchy subject with no true or false in it, only opinions.
User avatar #86 to #83 - thelastamerican ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
I would think that if they had been studding us long enough to understand that we're not really receptive of our own species, let alone other species, they would probably know at least a little of our language. Remember, this is a race advanced enough to cross the gulf between stars. Surely they have enough computing technology to be able to produce at least a little of our language.
User avatar #91 to #86 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
I'm sure if they exist, they do.
But why would they put themselves at risk to speak with us? Maybe they know if they revealed themselves to us, we'd be doomed because our universal ego would be destroyed?
We would all finally realize that we aren't worth **** to the universe?
User avatar #99 to #91 - thelastamerican ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
I think there would be a thinning of the herd where some people would just be overwhelmed by the fact that there was no real difference they could make to the galactic sphere of influence, but to be honest I doubt that there would be much of a problem. I would assume that there is a larger portion of the population that would accept the fact that there are aliens, and see if there is something that can be gained by communicating. Humans haven't been wiped out yet because of our adaptability.
User avatar #101 to #99 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
Yes, we adapt.
But we do not accept. We kill our own kind so we can split up land, what would we do to aliens if we knew they existed?
User avatar #102 to #101 - thelastamerican ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
What COULD we do to them. They are capable of creating space ships that travel between stars while we've barely managed to float essentially a rowboat to the moon of our planet. I would imagine that they could just turn their space ship to point at the planet and flip the switch to on and roast the hemisphere. It would be like an ant picking a fight with you. Sure it can sting you, but you're still going to crush it almost before it has the opportunity to sting you again.
User avatar #104 to #102 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
I didn't mean species. I meant advanced life form.
User avatar #103 to #102 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
What if they don't want violence? So they don't even bother trying to physically speak to us?
Again, this is a touchy subject, nothing is true or false, it's all opinion. I just think that denying aliens exist is absurd, our own galaxy is 100,000 light years wide.
We know of unlimited amounts of galaxies, it's impossible that we're the only species.
User avatar #116 to #103 - happygoeslucky (01/13/2014) [-]
i love reading conversations like these, and this subject, i think all the different ideas and thoughts people come up with are great.
i hope one day we will be ready for it all
#80 to #75 - anon (01/13/2014) [-]
Actually the crops in "genuine" crop circles are not destroyed, they grow and can be harvested.
User avatar #82 to #80 - thelastamerican ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
After they've been flattened they still grow? I find this hard to believe.
User avatar #147 to #70 - RandomAnonGuy (01/13/2014) [-]
>Advanced alien lifeform develops technology capable of traversing the stars and working simultaneously worldwide to communicate with humans
>Unable to discern that humans don't understand
>Unable to discern that humans communicate via sound
>Unable to decode human language, communicate in a form we understand
User avatar #148 to #147 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
If they do exist, they probably find humans useless.
Which we are.
User avatar #150 to #148 - RandomAnonGuy (01/13/2014) [-]
**** that point of view and everyone that holds it. I hate people who look at the world and the human race and see only our dark side. The world is full of beautiful people who have done beautiful things and the fact that so many people don't appreciate that is the single most depressing thing there is to me.
User avatar #153 to #150 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
Beautiful things? Oh, like murdering?
Or raping children?
Or robbing a store?
Or killing animals for no good reason?

Overall we're **** , the bad outweighs the good.
User avatar #155 to #153 - RandomAnonGuy (01/13/2014) [-]
When a euphoric neckbeard says that all Christians are ****** because they watched a video about the Westboro Baptist Church, everyone knows they're idiots. But when you say humanity as a whole is ****** up because a woman is raped, everyone agrees with you. Yes it's terrible, but it doesn't represent all of us, or even the majority, or even a ******* fraction. And you're just plain stupid if you think otherwise.
User avatar #157 to #155 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
It represents the majority...
Humans are selfish and self indulgent. Very few have good intentions anymore.
User avatar #159 to #157 - RandomAnonGuy (01/13/2014) [-]
A point of view that entirely too many people hold.
I'm the kind of guy that'll strike up a conversation with the person I sit next to on the bus on the way to uni, or in the food court while I eat lunch.
First day of every lecture I lean two rows forward and back and shake hands and introduce myself and see if anybody would like to sit with me. I've created groups of fifteen and up in that fashion.
My friends consider this ****** weird and would never have the stones to do it themselves, because they're about half as pessimistic about people as you are. But not a single person I've met this way has been a dick to me. Not one.
Not even the big scary ************ with tatoos and lip piercings that my shyer friends are uncomfortable around. His name is Dylan and we play gmod together all the time. He's a pretty chill guy. Vegan, real gentle soul.
I reiterate that people like you that hate people in general are the worst kinds of people that exist in most of society.
User avatar #164 to #159 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
No, you act like you're a great person because you're socializing with others.
You assume I don't like people for no good reason, how come you haven't asked me why I dislike people instead of just assuming that I hate everyone for no reason?

No, I hate people because I've been used to many times, people are fake and rude in today's society.
How many people do you meet that will tell you their straight up opinion about you? Oh, it's about 0.
Everyone is 2 faced and it's ****** UP. So **** off and stop acting like you're better than me because you socialize with people. You just sound like a pretentious asshole, there, that's my real view on you.
I don't like people, you do... Whats the difference?

It's not like me disliking everyone will change anything, it's not like you socializing with everyone is going to change **** either.
I'm a bad person because I don't like people?
I'm the worst kind of person because I like to just sit and chill alone in my room while there are others murdering each other for poor reasons?
User avatar #166 to #164 - RandomAnonGuy (01/13/2014) [-]
I am better than you, because I don't pass judgement on people I don't know because of the actions of someone they had nothing to do with.
And I said you're the worst kind of person that exists in most of society. I don't ignore that there are rapists and murderers out there, but at least I don't associate everyone with them because I'm too weak to give people a chance.
You don't have to socialize with everyone or anyone, it's the fact that you hate them that pisses me off.
User avatar #167 to #166 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
I hate people because 75% of them are fake. They are nice to your face, talk about you behind your back, hell, most people do it.

You just sound like a pretentious asshole and you passed judgement on me without knowing why I dislike people.
And when one says they "Hate" people, it means they dislike them.
I don't truly hate people, if I did, I would be out murdering everyone, I choose to stay away from them, that's the difference between hate and dislike.
I am angry with people, I'm not looking to kill anyone, I'm looking to stay away from them so I don't get pissed.
And I've given you my reasoning for why I dislike people, they're fake and 2 faced.
This is the third time I've said it, learn how to read.
And I'm really not looking to fight with you, but when you assume I'm a bad person because I dislike people, that is when I get pissed.
I don't hate you for socializing with people, GREAT, you can do something I can't/don't want to.
It doesn't make you better or worse, you're the exact ******* same as me, quit acting like you're better.
I have my flaws, you have yours.
User avatar #168 to #167 - RandomAnonGuy (01/13/2014) [-]
I don't care to know why you don't like people because it doesn't matter. Disliking a person you haven't met, who has had no effect on you, who has done nothing wrong on a moral or personal level, for any reason makes you an asshole. Even if you think they're two faced liars, another judgement you pass without knowing them.

Yes, in my honest opinion that makes me leagues better than you. No, I don't think I'm some amazing paragon of light and justice and represent all the good in the world. I'm just not a cunt.
User avatar #169 to #168 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
No, I make judgements on people because I don't want to go meet them.
Those are my standards, I assume they're fake and 2 faced until I get to meet them and find out they actually ARE 2 faced.
User avatar #171 to #169 - RandomAnonGuy (01/13/2014) [-]
You can be introverted without being misanthropic.
User avatar #172 to #171 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
No, I like being the way I am, I sure as hell am not going to mold my life based around a Random guy on funnyjunk.
I like disliking people, they dislike me back and it makes me happy.
User avatar #173 to #172 - RandomAnonGuy (01/13/2014) [-]
Which makes you an asshole.
User avatar #174 to #173 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
I've been called that before, it doesn't hurt me. I've accepted who I truly am, and that is a gigantic cunt bag. I enjoy being this way.
But I'm certainly not an asshole because I won't change my life for you.
User avatar #175 to #174 - RandomAnonGuy (01/13/2014) [-]
If you'd acknowledged that from the start, the last fifteen or so posts wouldn't have happened.
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User avatar #67 to #59 - midothegreat (01/13/2014) [-]
I think that's not a good way to look at it, people often throw around the word intelligence when talking about possible alien life. I think it's too much trying to comprehend things from our own understanding and capabilities. I mean how long did humanity exist until now? and compare that to some other places in the universe. I think it's safe to say humanity is still a baby that is trying to walk it's first steps
User avatar #68 to #67 - kievaughnb (01/13/2014) [-]
Aaaaaaand you've gone into unfalsifiable hypothesis territory.
#64 to #51 - byzantinian (01/13/2014) [-]
I don't know anything about radiation,but crop circles are really simple to explain,step one:go to google earth and measure what you want to make,step two,do this i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/01/article-2020910-0D3F6F7000000578-664_634x433.jpg and step three say that it was the aliens and be on tv
#62 to #51 - xcoreyx (01/13/2014) [-]
While it's almost certainly true that there is other intelligent life in the universe, I highly doubt that any has been to Earth. I mean unless they have ridiculous technology that we can't even imagine, they have to come here on a space ship, and I'm pretty sure we'd notice it. We have all sorts of sensors monitoring asteroids and other objects in space, so if a UFO did come down, we would almost surely know about it.
#23 - doctorprofessornv (01/12/2014) [-]
There are often some interesting phenomena associated with crop circle formation, hence the speculation and UFO theory. There are several viable ways for a group of people to make crop circles, and plenty of crop circles have been shown to be man-made hoaxes. However, many reports of crop circles involve the patterns showing up literally overnight, and most of the man-made crop circle techniques are either too time consuming or way too loud/obvious to be executed in one night. Also, many crop circles are discovered with no evidence of footprints, tire tracks, or any disturbed path showing where the perpetrators would have entered and exited the field, suggesting the pattern was made from above somehow. Finally, some crop circles are found where the foliage appears to be scorched but not burnt, and in some of these instances trace amounts of radiation can be detected at the site. Granted I believe that if aliens really wanted to communicate with us there are more efficient ways of doing it, but I am willing to concede that something more than just a simple hoax may be responsible for at least part of this phenomenon.

TL;DR - ****** weird yo, not enough evidence to draw any definitive conclusion at this time
#25 to #23 - autoxx (01/13/2014) [-]
A few years ago there was an animal attack on an oilfield worker. Wolf tracks PAVED the entire area where he fought for about 3 hours (he was wearing a snowsuit so had a bit of protection). They eventually bled him out and started to chow down by the time the helicopter got back. The other crew members shot at the wolves several times because they kept coming back.
The "expert" found bear tracks over 600 yards away and so maintains that it was a bear attack...

"Experts" can be ******* retarded.

Cityots looking for tracks would be lucky to find the crop circle let alone discern any form of evidence.
User avatar #28 to #25 - doctorprofessornv (01/13/2014) [-]
How exactly is this relevant? You are describing an isolated incident that has very little to do with my topic of discussion other than talking about footprint identification, and it's not that hard to distinguish human shoe prints from animal tracks.
#32 to #28 - autoxx (01/13/2014) [-]
Kinda tricky to determine the difference between cop footprints and teen footprints though...
My point is that there is an art to tracking, being able to see what something was thinking, where it was looking, and what it was doing.
I have yet to met a single person that doesn't spend months out in the bush every year who has this skill.

I saw the engineering department disassemble a punch buggy and then reassemble it into the roof structure of a university. THAT was time consuming and loud/obvious but they still did it in a single night without getting caught.

Scorched but not burnt? What was it lightly braised with a side of caesar salad?

Also, we are bombarded with radiation from multiple sources CONSTANTLY, environmental radiation is inherent to this planet.
User avatar #33 to #32 - doctorprofessornv (01/13/2014) [-]
Fair enough, I'm just pointing out certain pieces of evidence that are often ignored when talking about these things. I honestly don't care if it's a hoax or not, makes no difference to me. Although I will say it does seem like a rude thing to do either way, because damaging crops in this manner will certainly hurt a farmer's harvest income.
#34 to #33 - autoxx (01/13/2014) [-]
Agreed, there isn't enough logic involved in these investigations.
Don't worry about the farmers though, most of the time the fields aren't prime because it would be way more difficult to stomp down properly (unless it is lodging already).
Even so, decent equipment will still process a crop that is mostly laid over.
User avatar #36 to #34 - doctorprofessornv (01/13/2014) [-]
Good to know, I always say the joke should be over when you start to have property damage and lost income
User avatar #165 to #23 - rossdabigboss (01/13/2014) [-]
showing up literally over night? are all crops checked every day by helicopters?
User avatar #210 to #165 - doctorprofessornv (01/13/2014) [-]
No, but farmers typically check up on their crops and it doesn't take a helicopter to notice a giant hole in your cornfield.
#24 to #23 - lolfire (01/13/2014) [-]

The first people to make crop circles admitted they did it and exactly how they did it.

It's a ******* stick on a piece of rope.
#44 to #24 - shadowedge (01/13/2014) [-]
>Stick on a piece of rope
User avatar #26 to #24 - doctorprofessornv (01/13/2014) [-]
Yes that is one of the methods used to make crop-circles. However, the method is difficult and time consuming (especially in a corn filed, from firsthand experience I can tell you that corn stalks are actually incredibly stiff and are difficult to tamp down in this manner). Small patterns are not that difficult, but to make large, intricate patterns it takes a large amount of people working in unison to get such a big job done in such a short amount of time. Not to mention creating large geometric patterns like that would require extensive land surveying and precise measurements, something you would have to do ahead of time. And then you would have to execute it in complete darkness, because putting up lights would attract too much attention. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying there are other factors to consider
User avatar #39 to #26 - friendlypitbull (01/13/2014) [-]
Out of all the possibilities you chose aliens instead of something we know exists

This is why everyone see's alien believes as crazy
User avatar #55 to #39 - doctorprofessornv (01/13/2014) [-]
I never explicitly said that I thought aliens were responsible. What I am saying is that there are plenty of strange coincidences surrounding this phenomenon that make it difficult to determine a definitive answer to who or what is making these patterns.
User avatar #27 to #26 - lolfire (01/13/2014) [-]
...But still. No.

It's people.

Not aliens.
#58 to #26 - anon (01/13/2014) [-]
I can tell you from first hand experience that what you just said about corn stalks is a load of **** .
User avatar #65 to #58 - thelastamerican ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
Depends on the time of year. Young corn, not a problem. Fully grown stalks are a pain in the ass to break/bend. Imagine doing that with a couple thousand stalks. Methinks you've never actually been near corn.
#61 to #24 - anon (01/13/2014) [-]
The only problem with that is that the large complex geometric shapes that appear overnight are not made like that. the crops are not kinked, which occurs when you flatten them with any kind of pressure, they are bent like a heated piece of iron.

Also i think the people you refer to are the 2 men who claimed to have started this in 1978. it wouldn't be the first time people would claim things for attention or whatever. plus on of the earliest records of possible crop circle are documented in 1678 (picture)

It is quite ignorant to confidently claim things like this while you have not even did your own research. You should have at least visited one or two crop circles and witness yours and other peoples electrical devices malfunction.

“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.” ― Stephen Hawking
#78 to #61 - anon (01/13/2014) [-]
also note how they are always bent at the nodes, never in between, which occurs in forcing it down with physical pressure
User avatar #144 to #24 - rhetoricalfunny (01/13/2014) [-]
I swear to god you people don't even read this **** .
You just get the slightest inkling that someone thinks there may be something more to a story and then you lash out like rabid dogs.

"NO! IT'S NOT ALIENS!" Even though no one even hinted at it being aliens, but merely stated a set of facts that were skeptical of the given explanation.
#223 to #144 - lolfire (01/13/2014) [-]
>no one hinted at it being aliens. Wrong.   
"Granted I believe that if aliens really wanted to communicate with us there are more efficient ways of doing it, but I am willing to concede that something more than just a simple hoax may be responsible for at least part of this phenomenon."   
Whereas it is nothing more than a simple hoax surrounded by myths presented as facts.
>no one hinted at it being aliens. Wrong.

"Granted I believe that if aliens really wanted to communicate with us there are more efficient ways of doing it, but I am willing to concede that something more than just a simple hoax may be responsible for at least part of this phenomenon."

Whereas it is nothing more than a simple hoax surrounded by myths presented as facts.

User avatar #226 to #223 - rhetoricalfunny (01/14/2014) [-]
but I am willing to concede that something more than just a simple hoax may be responsible for at least part of this phenomenon."

Something more than just a simple hoax
Something more

Nope, still no aliens
User avatar #66 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
>Vast amount of space
>not believing other intelligent life forms beyond this planet exist
And yes, some crop circles are hoaxes, to say all of them are is absurd.
User avatar #152 to #66 - flifli (01/13/2014) [-]
The main prblem with alien species is that we can't fight them XD if they have the ability to get to us and monitor us without us knowing in any way were ****** on a technological level though someone may have said this already
User avatar #205 to #66 - kanadetenshi (01/13/2014) [-]
To say other possible eukaryotic lifeforms exists on other planets is one thing, to say that there are these advanced beings that magically evolved tool-use, bipedalism and high intelligence exactly like our while also being conviently close enough to visit us is a completely different one.

The reason people belief in those kind of aliens is due to anthropomorphism, i'd be amazed if these other life forms managed to develop a cell nucleus at best.
#206 to #66 - anon (01/13/2014) [-]
Who are you quoting?
User avatar #207 to #206 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
I'm not quoting anyone.
User avatar #106 to #66 - princessren ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
I believe there are other forms of life out there and likely intelligent forms as well
however, I don't believe most if any of the "omg I saw a UFO/ crop circle" stuff
User avatar #108 to #106 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
Most crop circles are advanced geometrical patterns, it would be hard for a group of humans to make advanced geometrical patterns of that proportion in one night without someone noticing...
I don't believe every crop circle is aliens, some of them I believe are though. Knowing how big space is, I don't think it's impossible that an unknown life form from another planet could make advanced mathematical patterns in our crops, just improbable.
User avatar #130 to #108 - stifflimb (01/13/2014) [-]
Did you not see the post of the guy who made art by walking through snow and making tracks, he made some complicated forms by himself in just snow, so for a group of humans to do the same in crops I dont see a problem with.
I myselft is certain that aliens do exist, maybe they never visited the earth or they have, who knows. But I dont believe a single crop circle is made by aliens, dont see even one reason why aliens would do such a thing to crops.
User avatar #131 to #130 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
I don't believe that guy did it overnight though.
User avatar #132 to #131 - stifflimb (01/13/2014) [-]
Possible he did not do all that by 1 night, although he most likely did most of it by 1 night since if he leaves it alone it kinda quickly get blown over at the slightest wind.
#133 to #132 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
I guess someones getting really ****** up on psychedelics then... I like the patterns these people/things are making, they're unique.
User avatar #139 to #133 - stifflimb (01/13/2014) [-]
True, but creating unique forms are not that hard, especially for someone with a creative mind, and if aliens actually did come doing marking they would not do it on crops since it dont last long cause of farmers often wanna get rid of them quickly, and they would do more than just bend the crops, like laser tagging mountains and the like.
#185 to #139 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
Well I mean, not only are they unique, most of them are advance geometry.   
And it's hard for a human to copy patterns like that and be able to cut crops down to make it. It could be anything, aliens, humans.    
I don't know, I would like to believe that it's aliens, because then that means that they might know some sacred geometrical secret to the universe, if it's humans it's just art.    
Granted it probably is humans, but one can hope.    
Pic unrelated, also Inb4 my ban because most mods are assholes.
Well I mean, not only are they unique, most of them are advance geometry.
And it's hard for a human to copy patterns like that and be able to cut crops down to make it. It could be anything, aliens, humans.
I don't know, I would like to believe that it's aliens, because then that means that they might know some sacred geometrical secret to the universe, if it's humans it's just art.
Granted it probably is humans, but one can hope.
Pic unrelated, also Inb4 my ban because most mods are assholes.
User avatar #188 to #185 - stifflimb (01/13/2014) [-]
Even if it was aliens it could still be just art, and there is many humans who make grand scale art either by symbols, advance genometry and other.
If aliens do visit earth I hope they just come down, says the "we come in peace thing", leaves and comes back a year later when the hysteria of them have gone down and people hopefully wont try to murder them for religious causes.
#190 to #188 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
I want to see aliens come to earth. It'd be a real nice change for once, it would make us finally stop focusing on ourselves and ourselves only.
I want to see aliens come to earth. It'd be a real nice change for once, it would make us finally stop focusing on ourselves and ourselves only.
User avatar #192 to #190 - stifflimb (01/13/2014) [-]
I still think we would be focused on ourself mostly, but hopefully it will help people to progress and be kind to one and another because that is the right thing to do and not cause some bearded guy in the sky says so or else we go down to eternal damnation.
User avatar #193 to #192 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
Well that's what I mean.
We would give up on our hopeless faith and start looking more towards the truth. Stop trying to comfort ourselves by saying that there is a man in the sky who will take us to eternal peace after death.
User avatar #194 to #193 - stifflimb (01/13/2014) [-]
Although I'm Agnostic instead of aetheist, I dont believe but hope there is some deity that will take us up when we die, hate for death to be the end, Go Gandalf!!
User avatar #195 to #194 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
I'm an agnostic too, I would like to hope that we float in an astral plane after death, but I don't know.
User avatar #196 to #195 - stifflimb (01/13/2014) [-]
True, or at least something, I would be kinde contempt with that when we die, we suddenly get back all memorize from our other lifes back in time and get to make a new decision where we wanna be born and how and such.
User avatar #197 to #196 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
I've had the theory that you are born so your subconscious can take in information and when it has enough you die and go back into a single consciousness where every body used to be or is going to be after death.
As the single consciousness created reality for lack of stimulation and made humans to be observers so we could expand the consciousness.

**** , anything could happen after death.
User avatar #198 to #197 - stifflimb (01/13/2014) [-]
Your theory sounds a lot like Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within movie, and yeah I had the same thought, although I myself dont think I would like to lose the sense of myself and be absorbed by another mind.
User avatar #199 to #198 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
Well, I wouldn't call it another mind.
I personally think of it as the sub conscious, picking up every detail that you can fathom, taking it all in and growing.
Kind of as a way to expand the singular knowledge, instead of thinking in one perspective, it split up to think in billions.
Mass knowledge, IDK. It's an esoteric subject.
User avatar #200 to #199 - stifflimb (01/13/2014) [-]
Yeah I understand how you mean, but as you said when we died we would return to this single consciousness. That is more or less the issue I have with it, also I would have some major issues with heaven, imagine getting everything you want whenever you want, nothing would matter, I would end up in a never ending depression most likely, a true hell!
User avatar #201 to #200 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
What do you mean nothing would matter?
User avatar #74 to #66 - arnolddusk (01/13/2014) [-]
just found out you were bait lol must admit you had me going for a minute
#94 to #74 - anon (01/13/2014) [-]
Nice argument.
User avatar #71 to #66 - arnolddusk (01/13/2014) [-]
aliens don't exist dumbass they aren't even mention in the bible
#96 to #90 - anon (01/13/2014) [-]
get out
#97 to #90 - anon (01/13/2014) [-]
stupid bitch resposting unfunny maymays
#100 to #97 - eating (01/13/2014) [-]
hiding behind anonymous
#72 to #66 - isconfuzzled (01/13/2014) [-]
There's a difference between believing other intelligent life exists and believing they've come to Earth to do stupid **** like make crop circles.
User avatar #76 to #72 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
You ever heard of advanced geometry?
#87 to #72 - anon (01/13/2014) [-]
Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it "stupid **** ".
It's scary to know there are people around with such limited motivation to understand like yourself. It's even scarier that such people actually have high places in our society.
#95 to #87 - isconfuzzled (01/13/2014) [-]
Oh stfu, it's worse that people are jumping to conclusions about Alien contact because of crop circles. It's stupid **** because there's no reason to assume there is any deeper meaning to it.
User avatar #136 to #95 - darksideofthebeast (01/13/2014) [-]
That is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard. Don't think deep?
Yea, because thinking deeply never got humanity anywhere or anything, I guess because I can't see from my naked eye that space is large means its not.
I guess because I also can't see my heart that it doesn't exist, mine as well not give it another thought.
**** looking at things from a different angle, we're singular observers as far as you're concerned, right?
#141 to #136 - isconfuzzled (01/13/2014) [-]
You're completely misrepresenting what I said and exaggerating it ridiculously.
#111 - palindromia (01/13/2014) [-]
its not that its too complex to made, it just too complex to be made in one night.
User avatar #129 to #111 - stifflimb (01/13/2014) [-]
Depends on how many was involved, imagine like 20 people and it should be done by 1 day(or night)
#151 to #129 - Dadhhg (01/13/2014) [-]
and who said it was done in one night, somebody has to notice it, and that could take weeks, or months depending on where in the world it is
User avatar #154 to #151 - stifflimb (01/13/2014) [-]
Considering cropses are being monitored by the farmers it dont take that long for them to notice.
#211 to #154 - Dadhhg (01/13/2014) [-]
Coming from a farm, unless you fly an airplane there is almost no chance you will notice something like this through the summer, there simply are not many reasons too wade through a corn field, and you can't see much past the first 8 rows
User avatar #212 to #211 - stifflimb (01/13/2014) [-]
Yes cause all land is totally flat everywhere, and as a farmer you never use a tractor or other farm machines that have pretty high seats.
#213 to #212 - Dadhhg (01/13/2014) [-]
True and true, but how often do these things show up on hills, as far as I know, basically never. and they rarely show up in fields next to the farmers house, they usually show up in fields that people won't be visiting often,
User avatar #214 to #213 - stifflimb (01/13/2014) [-]
Sure, but how often does people discover "half finished" crop circles?
#216 to #214 - Dadhhg (01/13/2014) [-]
How would they know if they are finished or not, perhaps the person who made the one in the photo wasn't finished yet, if it is just started, it looks like wind damage, it isn't easy to tell how finished the thing is
User avatar #219 to #216 - stifflimb (01/13/2014) [-]
They mostly got very specific patterns, thats easy to see (maybe not an exactly all of them) if thay are missing pieces.
User avatar #180 to #154 - manofbacontits (01/13/2014) [-]
for a second there, i thought you said corpses. my ******* mind today... goddamit
User avatar #182 to #180 - stifflimb (01/13/2014) [-]
No need, I think I reread what I wrote about 3 times to be sure I didn't write corpses, if this is what happens when you go up early I don't see what so great about it!!
User avatar #184 to #182 - manofbacontits (01/13/2014) [-]
go up early?
User avatar #186 to #184 - stifflimb (01/13/2014) [-]
I've been doing the up till 5 in the morning sleeping till 3 into the day thing, finally I went up early as **** and this is what happens, feel like I'm never gonna really wake up!
User avatar #187 to #186 - manofbacontits (01/13/2014) [-]
ah i hear ya dude. i'm schizophrenic and narcoleptic. sleep is my worst enemy.
#189 to #187 - stifflimb (01/13/2014) [-]
Feels like that sometimes, although I gotten tired of sleeping away the days, especially in the winter when that means I wont see any sunlight at all!
#202 - flyingassassin ONLINE (01/13/2014) [-]
****		 yeah humans
**** yeah humans
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