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understanding. I understand why females have periods, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna bleed out my penis.. Ct ) Source: soylent/ atilla lettle moretti rd: Don'

I understand why females have periods, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna bleed out my penis.

Ct ) Source: soylent/ atilla
lettle moretti rd:
Don' t tell me you "understand" why I' m vegan. Ifyou understood
1. reu' cl be vegan, too.
doign' t equal agreement. I understand why Walter Whlte
Started to cook mam, doign' t mean I' m game buy an RV and a barrel
methylamine.
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#1 - mrsnowballs (06/17/2014) [-]
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User avatar #100 to #1 - assassindash (06/18/2014) [-]
You break a window, you get a Cage.
User avatar #222 to #1 - anonymoose (06/18/2014) [-]
If I remember correctly, I made that gif.
User avatar #223 to #222 - mrsnowballs (06/18/2014) [-]
noice
User avatar #11 to #1 - boomerpyro (06/17/2014) [-]
single best gif in history
#17 to #1 - acivcrusader (06/17/2014) [-]
i couldn't help but start counting the cages
One, one Nicolas Cage
Two, two Nicolas Cage
Three, three Nicolas Cage
User avatar #34 - fourtwentt (06/18/2014) [-]
>buy methylamine

Heisenberg don't pay for methylamine
User avatar #136 to #34 - suppression (06/18/2014) [-]
Considering he lost his family, I'd say that Methylamine cost him a lot.
User avatar #35 to #34 - pootismang (06/18/2014) [-]
That's because he's ******* hardcore. This dude is on tumblr.
#232 to #22 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
This is probably a colossally dumb question, but is that what he actually says there? I have watched all of BB, but i don't remember the context of this.
User avatar #243 to #232 - Bruceman (06/18/2014) [-]
I think it's when he's shouting at the cop before he gets pepper sprayed
User avatar #301 to #232 - lifeanddeath (06/18/2014) [-]
It's something along the lines of "Do you have any idea what that was like? What I've been through?" He is yelling at a cop about the event that caused his car's windshield damage.
#235 to #232 - Crimeater (06/18/2014) [-]
Me neither

breakingbadexplain?
User avatar #250 to #235 - goobyman (06/18/2014) [-]
it looks like he is using his hands to be italian, or rather speaking like an italian.
#18 - ashedust (06/17/2014) [-]
mfw extremists of any group.
mfw extremists of any group.
#25 to #18 - psyachu (06/17/2014) [-]
Why don't people use more Prequal reaction pics/gifs?
Why don't people use more Prequal reaction pics/gifs?
User avatar #104 to #25 - xxhadesflamesxx (06/18/2014) [-]
thank you for mentioning the name of that series I just started it and its amazing
User avatar #112 to #104 - psyachu (06/18/2014) [-]
Wow, I started a whole discussion with people just jumping on this. I'm glad I got people to start reading that.
User avatar #47 to #25 - thehumor (06/18/2014) [-]
what is this, ive seen it a lot
User avatar #50 to #47 - psyachu (06/18/2014) [-]
Look at what I said to wholesomeburn. It's from a web comic called Prequel. click that there link I put and enjoy.
#53 to #50 - thehumor (06/18/2014) [-]
oh yeah i just looked at it, this is looking good :3
oh yeah i just looked at it, this is looking good :3
User avatar #55 to #53 - psyachu (06/18/2014) [-]
Just read all the way up to where it is now, it gets REALLY good!
User avatar #190 to #55 - thehumor (06/18/2014) [-]
im up to where she's about to go to dinner with the royal. Dont spoil what happens
Im in ******* love man
Im rooting for her all the way
User avatar #202 to #190 - psyachu (06/18/2014) [-]
Well, this isn't a spoiler, but something for a setting. This is a little before the Oblivion Crisis (hence the name Prequel). Kvatch is still up and thriving (and not a pile of burning rubble).
User avatar #41 to #25 - wholesomeburn (06/18/2014) [-]
I want to look into this but I have no idea where to look for it. SEND ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, ALL POWERFUL MASTER OF THE SAUCE!
User avatar #42 to #41 - psyachu (06/18/2014) [-]
www.prequeladventure.com/

That's a community-driven web-comic called Prequal. People can leave a message on the last page made as of now and what they tell her (or someone else) to do may end up on the next part of it. It's really good and has a deep story with hilarious things all through it. Just read it for yourself, it's great!
User avatar #48 to #42 - racrox (06/18/2014) [-]
Was this inspired by MS Paint Adventures?
User avatar #151 to #48 - unclaimedusername (06/18/2014) [-]
Yes, somewhere on the website (I forget where) it states such and gives a link to MS Paint Adventures
User avatar #52 to #48 - psyachu (06/18/2014) [-]
I think it just got inspiration from Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion and wanted people to guide the story.
#59 to #52 - racrox (06/18/2014) [-]
Well I mean, the pixelated art style, reuse of basic spritework, the user suggested story line, occasional animations and games, and talk sprites that look like their almost right out of the Alterniabound walkaround are all reminiscent of Andrew Hussie's work.   
   
I'm not saying it copied it or nothing, I'm just genuinely curious.
Well I mean, the pixelated art style, reuse of basic spritework, the user suggested story line, occasional animations and games, and talk sprites that look like their almost right out of the Alterniabound walkaround are all reminiscent of Andrew Hussie's work.

I'm not saying it copied it or nothing, I'm just genuinely curious.
User avatar #60 to #59 - psyachu (06/18/2014) [-]
That's a fair point, I wasn't saying you were implying that. I actually don't really know, I just like the webcomic.
#62 to #60 - racrox (06/18/2014) [-]
A little bit of research answered my question for me, haha. On the about page www.prequeladventure.com/about-prequel/ the author directly references MS Paint Adventures.   
   
On that note, I'm probably going to read this now, and I guess if you like this I'd recommend Problem Sleuth or Homestuck on MSPA.
A little bit of research answered my question for me, haha. On the about page www.prequeladventure.com/about-prequel/ the author directly references MS Paint Adventures.

On that note, I'm probably going to read this now, and I guess if you like this I'd recommend Problem Sleuth or Homestuck on MSPA.
User avatar #99 to #62 - psyachu (06/18/2014) [-]
Alright, I'll give those a read. Thank you. And since someone downthumbed you for some reason, I brought those back up to 0
User avatar #121 to #99 - racrox (06/18/2014) [-]
Probably because Homestuck's one of those things that has a bad rep because of the fan base.
User avatar #27 to #25 - ashedust (06/18/2014) [-]
**ashedust shrugs** I dunno.
#96 - givememoarpony (06/18/2014) [-]
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#28 - herbolifee (06/18/2014) [-]
Lets just make a nice salad together
Lets just make a nice salad together
User avatar #298 to #28 - kijajouteh (06/18/2014) [-]
>Making steak in a pan.

You're right, you did **** up.
#122 - organicglory (06/18/2014) [-]
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#203 to #122 - hellomynameisbill ONLINE (06/18/2014) [-]
ricinberg
#205 to #203 - hellomynameisbill ONLINE (06/18/2014) [-]
diesenberg
#208 to #205 - hellomynameisbill ONLINE (06/18/2014) [-]
highsenberg
User avatar #188 to #122 - russianexplain (06/18/2014) [-]
since when is a pizza a pie?
#233 to #188 - popnotes (06/18/2014) [-]
"pizza pie"
#54 - grimmwaters ONLINE (06/18/2014) [-]
#10 - benschien (06/17/2014) [-]
too much talk about vegans.... I'm just gonna leave this here
#39 to #10 - telamatoes (06/18/2014) [-]
Thanks, I... I needed that.
User avatar #43 to #10 - ubermasterfaggot (06/18/2014) [-]
A couple of thoughts ran through my head and I thought of one of Markiplier's quote, "I like it when I put a nice, juicy sausage in my mouth..."
And then I remembered this
Wok The Fuck Episode 3
#193 to #10 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
Very nice.
User avatar #98 to #10 - dicedfruit (06/18/2014) [-]
It will take more than whats in that petty picture
Side vegetables should be meat
Seasoning and spices should be meat
Garnish should be meat
Potatoes should be meat
Meat
#107 to #10 - maorox ONLINE (06/18/2014) [-]
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User avatar #12 to #10 - altairibnlaahad (06/17/2014) [-]
**** you I'm hungry now.
User avatar #13 to #12 - benschien (06/17/2014) [-]
Then get some meat.
#19 - newdevyx (06/17/2014) [-]
I'm allergic to soy and don't want to become a vegan anyway. If someone says i should become vegan i could say i'm allergic to soy.
#345 to #19 - Seority (07/16/2014) [-]
That's understandable. Most of the soy production in the US is GMO, so having an allergic reaction to them is common. I don't eat soy for that reason as well, but you can be vegan and never eat soy.
#23 to #19 - MrDeadiron ONLINE (06/17/2014) [-]
ditto
#67 to #19 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
You could also say you're not willing to give up the taste of meat.
User avatar #2 - platinumaltaria (06/17/2014) [-]
I can understand being a vegan, but I cannot understand why certain vegans feel the need to: A. Force their beliefs down other people's throats and B. Act superior to those of us who follow the diet that allowed us to advance our brains...
You are only capable of being vegan because food is readily available. Humans could never have survived on plants alone before the invention of modern agriculture.
Besides, what makes plants any less alive than animals???
User avatar #9 to #2 - oaaaaa (06/17/2014) [-]
some people like to do stuff to feel special. and they feel even more special if they get attention.

just not eating animals isnt enough, u have to tell other people that u r not eating animals. and thats what gives some people the kick.
#49 to #2 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
Pain receptors mostly.
Or a lack thereof
#74 to #49 - twilightdusk (06/18/2014) [-]
So if we could devise a way to remove pain receptors from cows, vegans would be fine with us slaughtering them?
User avatar #101 to #74 - putindispencerhere (06/18/2014) [-]
We could breed them that way, I'm sure people would.
User avatar #224 to #2 - minorian ONLINE (06/18/2014) [-]
A: if you believe meat is murder, then I pretty much understand why you'd want to stop it.
B: if you believe meat is murder, then I pretty much understand why you'd feel superior to alleged murders.
#72 to #2 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
A) Vegans believe that animals are sentient beings and have the right not to live, suffer and die undignified as they do now.   
   
B) Who is by their actions responsible for said suffering and death is morally inferior to people who abstain. I could add that the issue about the advancement of the brain is not one of a lifetime, but an extended evolutionary process. In other words, you don't become smarter if you eat meat than you vegan brother.   
   
C) Plants are not sentient beings and feel no pain and know no fear.   
   
inb4) "Found the vegan", "i hate vegans", "ur so dumb", "i thumb u down": Yeah I know, and obviously, I'm devastated.
A) Vegans believe that animals are sentient beings and have the right not to live, suffer and die undignified as they do now.

B) Who is by their actions responsible for said suffering and death is morally inferior to people who abstain. I could add that the issue about the advancement of the brain is not one of a lifetime, but an extended evolutionary process. In other words, you don't become smarter if you eat meat than you vegan brother.

C) Plants are not sentient beings and feel no pain and know no fear.

inb4) "Found the vegan", "i hate vegans", "ur so dumb", "i thumb u down": Yeah I know, and obviously, I'm devastated.
User avatar #253 to #72 - reapermaster (06/18/2014) [-]
Found the vegan, i hate vegans, ur so stupid, i thumb u down
User avatar #20 to #2 - charagrin (06/17/2014) [-]
I am not siding with Vegans, but because they feel the way they do is EXACTLY why they try and force it on everyone else. Again, I am not siding with them, I just see why they behave the way they do. They consider eating meat to be MURDER, would you calmly ignore people walking around you murdering other people? Of course not, and that is how they see it so they never shut up about it.
User avatar #63 to #2 - zealotgold (06/18/2014) [-]
eh i dont know some people have to be a vegetarian but ug i hate vegans i was a vegetarian for 15 years of my life because of these meds i was taking made me hate anything that was meat to the point i would be sick to my stomach for a week so i stopped eating meat for a long time

but

by ******* god i hate vegans more than anything else because they are ******* ass holes >.>
#73 to #63 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
So you hate vegans more than child-abusers? Good lord.
User avatar #81 to #73 - zealotgold (06/18/2014) [-]
i mean by god at least you can do something about child abusers but vegans will always have to be superior >.>
#86 to #81 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
Being superior to you seems quite a simple task, mate.
User avatar #157 to #86 - zealotgold (06/18/2014) [-]
eh doesnt matter
User avatar #16 to #2 - mathmanchris (06/17/2014) [-]
A: Whenever people ask me if I want some of the saucages/steakes/burgers I say no, because I'm vegetarian. Reaction "Oh no dude, stahp criticizing muh way of life, dude". I don't even need to say **** , it's always this. Why? Do you feel insecure? What's your problem? That in the end vegetarism might be the healthier choice? What exactly are you doing right now? Force your belief down vegetarian's throats?
B: This is bullsh*t and has been proven 100s of times.

> You are only capable of being vegan because food is readily available.
Take a look at the local market place in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran (all the ****** countries you know). What will you find there? The finest of sea foot? Beef? Sheep? Poultry? Or mostly fruits and vegetables? Guess what, meat is too expensive to eat every day. Speaking of availability, that's rather a problem of omnivores. A f*cking gazelle is very fast and wasn't caught like nothing. Plants were always at reach (studies show that they don't run nearly as fast).

> Besides, what makes plants any less alive than animals???
Dude, no. Don't do this. You're gonna embarrass yourself.

After all, I don't get it. What makes people go insane over what others eat and why? What's the magic behind this? Shut up, eat your beef/tofu/poultry/bananas and shut the hell up again.
#300 to #16 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
Also, if we sat on our asses all day in a berry bush, would we have needed to develop the tools required to hunt? I mean, have you chased a Kangaroo through dense scrub? **** is hard. Hitting one with a rock? Easy Peasy. Taking it down? Put sharp rock on a stick. Where would we be without the desire to eat meat? Gorrilas maybe? (Non-researched BS on my part, true, but I ain't got time for dat.)

>And now I'm turned about. I want to play devils advocate, but... humans can have green thumbs? So, we are alive, so are plants? Um, some plants react to damage with evolved mechanical responses? Ah, who am I kidding.

It's the same reason we are racist, sexist, sexuality-ophobic (both ways on this one), necrophobic, food-biased et al. We need to be individuals, but we also need to belong to something. We need to feel different, but also the same as another. We need to be apart, but also a part.

We want to be special, but we don't want to be alone.
#293 to #16 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
A: I haven't seen this at all, but that may be because of differences in cultures, but here, it's basically "Don't eat on my terms? Time to take the piss!" It's nothing serious, so, so yeah, whatever. Am I insecure? No! I just take the opportunity to have a laugh (even if, ESPECIALLY if, it can come back to bite me in the ass). So, Imma call this a strawman or some bull and move on.
B: Do you mean it's been proven both ways hundreds of times? I mean, I don't really care, I don't eat to be healthy, I eat to be hearty, but from a quick google search in your favour, I found the New York Times saying you guys are vitamin deficient, running risk of fatigue. Maybe I should read more. Hmm.

>Have goat? Eat goat. Neighbour has chook? Barter, eat chook. Feel like beans? Have beans. You don't have to eat meat everyday, I'm sure you can attest to that, and if food is limited, why limit yourself in any fashion? And don't tell me there are no meats there, coz i will call Bull-to-the-S-H-I-T.
#197 to #16 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
The answer to your question is "guilty conscience".
#30 to #2 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
The act of being vegan is acting on changing the world, so they kinda do nned to force their beliefs on you for theirs to work.

****** , I know, but that's that.
#77 to #30 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
Quite similar to those who forced their believe on others, that slavery is not acceptable.
User avatar #46 to #2 - aizeinstein (06/18/2014) [-]
I actually think about that. Plants are not less alive but vegans seem to find animals more valuable because they have feelings. It's not ******** though, plants can't feel pain. But, if you think about it they think it's bad to trap and kill animals, wouldn't you think "if" better conditions were met, if they had large animal farms and humane methods to kill them (the latter is present in some places, even now), wouldn't their point be senseless?
Btw scientists recently created a method to produce meat in laboratories. Soon, we could eat meat without killing. I wonder if any vegans would be present then, or would choose to eat artifical meat without second thoughts.
#3 to #2 - anon (06/17/2014) [-]
Seriously? im pretty sure you can understand that, its really simple

vegans feel the need to force their beliefs on people because they feel an injustice is being done and want to stop it, and act superior to others because they think that other people are living immorally by using and killing animals for food, and because they think that they are better people for not doing it, likening the rest of us to Nazis.
Kinda like how we think ourselves better than child molesters because we feel what they do is wrong.

"what makes plants any less alive than animals" - seriously? plants are alive. no one says they aren't, the definition of the word alive is " (of a person, animal, or plant) living, not dead."

what makes them less than animals , well animals have brains for one, and can feel pain.

I hate vegans , but that doesn't mean they are hard to understand.
#177 to #3 - finni (06/18/2014) [-]
Well said!
User avatar #44 to #3 - meganinja (06/18/2014) [-]
The majority of animals do not feel pain.
#79 to #44 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
Are you a troll or dumb..?
User avatar #83 to #79 - meganinja (06/18/2014) [-]
I'm technically correct. You're just narrow minded in your thinking. Insects do not feel pain. They can register pain as a stimulation, but they cannot suffer. This is the same for the majority of the animal kingdom. Mammals may be an exception, but I did say most not all.

Are you a troll or dumb?
#87 to #83 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
Ah I see, you're dumb. Well, ignorance is bliss, they say.
User avatar #88 to #87 - meganinja (06/18/2014) [-]
AH I see, you're dumb. Well ignorance is bliss, they say.
#92 to #83 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
Mammals feel pain, all avian species feel pain, and insects do feel pain, and even plants sense damage done to their bodies, and also I bet parasites like you feel pain too.
User avatar #93 to #92 - meganinja (06/18/2014) [-]
Read what I said. I said that register pain as a stimulation, but they cannot suffer. They do not have the mental capacity to. They are not sentient beings, and since they have no conscious mind, there is nothing there to feel suffering. Insects are more comparable to machines than humans. They follow a set guideline of chemical reactions which is similar to programming in computers. They do not act outside of these parameters. There is no free will. There is no capacity for pain.
User avatar #176 to #93 - finni (06/18/2014) [-]
I agree with what you're saying and all, but do you really have to make yourself look like an asshole by insulting others, rather than clarifying specifically what you mean?

I know it's the internet, but still :/
User avatar #309 to #176 - meganinja (06/18/2014) [-]
How did I insult somebody without clarifying what I meant? The anon was the one doing that.
User avatar #312 to #309 - finni (06/18/2014) [-]
Yeah, but it was more that he asked if you were a troll or dumb and then instead of pointing out his ignorance by showing your facts and evidence, you start insulting him back, still stating what you meant, but in an insulting way. If you do that, it will be harder for someone to admit you're right because if you do, then they will admit that the guy who was an asshole to them was correct, which they would not be easy for them to do. I know he started it, but still, I always keep my position to those who insult me and thumb me down.

tl;dr You did nothing wrong in the first comment, but I just think you should have stated your position rather than turning to insults.
User avatar #313 to #312 - meganinja (06/18/2014) [-]
Because I'm sick of this attitude on funnyjunk of 'you said something I don't like, therefore you're either a troll or stupid.', and everybody agrees with that person no matter what the other person says because most people on this site are sheep and once the first red thumb gets thrown nobody's going to take anything you say seriously.

That and what I said should be common knowledge without me having to cite my facts in the first place.
#317 to #313 - becauseyoutoldmeto (06/18/2014) [-]
I didn't notice any negative attitude until I saw anon's "troll or dumb". You didn't even fire any shots, and the closest you were to being an a-hole was being defensive after anon got pissy in first the place. I really don't understand FJ sometimes
User avatar #318 to #317 - meganinja (06/18/2014) [-]
**** happens. I just have a high enough thumb reserve that I don't give a **** if people don't like my 'opinion' (although it's really a fact), I'm not going to stop commenting or delete my comments. I've been a user on this site for a long time and it's happened to me countless times. I do appreciate the gesture of you coming back later and thumbing me up, as I normally don't even get that. Like I said, FJ is a bunch of sheep and they just thumb based on existing thumbs, so thumbing somebody down can much more lethal to their argument than actually being good at arguing.
#320 to #318 - becauseyoutoldmeto (06/18/2014) [-]
I've also been here a while (with a habit of making new accounts), so I'm fully aware of the thumb bandwagon. I'm just struggling to understand why it's so prevalent in the first place. I really don't want to believe that the community is just edgy middle school retards who can't think for themselves, but 			****		 like this never fails to reinforce that preconceived notion in my mind.   
   
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I've also been here a while (with a habit of making new accounts), so I'm fully aware of the thumb bandwagon. I'm just struggling to understand why it's so prevalent in the first place. I really don't want to believe that the community is just edgy middle school retards who can't think for themselves, but **** like this never fails to reinforce that preconceived notion in my mind.

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User avatar #321 to #320 - meganinja (06/18/2014) [-]
subconscious behavior. Somebody thinks I'm wrong, therefore I must be wrong.
User avatar #314 to #313 - finni (06/18/2014) [-]
I agree with you, still I don't like it when it goes to insults in debates, even on the internet.
User avatar #316 to #314 - meganinja (06/18/2014) [-]
I wasn't even really insulting him, I was saying literally the exact same thing he said to me, since he called me a troll/stupid without saying why he disagreed. So I stated my points and left them open to rebuttal, and then repeated his own comment. I was using it as more of a form of irony than to be insulting in the first place.
#200 to #93 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
Where exactly do you get your insights from? Everybody who ever had a pet knows that there is no difference between animals suffering and humans suffering. Dogs, for example, are said to have the mental capacitiy of a 5-year-old. Do 5-year-old children not suffer due to their "capacity"?

What nonsense.
User avatar #310 to #200 - meganinja (06/18/2014) [-]
Read my comment. I did not say a dog. I'm reading my comments and I don't see the word dog in there at all. dog, dog, dog.... nope. I did not say whether dogs feel pain. I said insects.

Learn to read.
#346 to #3 - Seority (07/16/2014) [-]
How come everyone assumes all vegans believe the same thing?

People can be vegan for their own reasons and should respect the reasons of others to not be vegan.

Most vegans eat plants because plants are alive unlike cooking meat where all the enzymes inside the "food" has died and no longer give good sustenance.

There are hundreds of reasons not to eat meat in today's world, but it's not, "because the animals feel pain." Most people understand that everything dies at some point, and even animals must to. It's just funny how few people actually do the killing themselves when wanting to partake of the meat they eat.

So please hate extremists, of any side, not just those whom have their own reasons to eat what they desire, and stop assuming you know the viewpoints of a person when you really don't.
User avatar #4 to #3 - platinumaltaria (06/17/2014) [-]
My knowledge of vegans has expanded enormously Just like my dick... but the jury's still out on whether plants can feel pain. I personally have always thought that if I had to choose, we would leave plants alone. It isn't as if they can run away or scream, they are forced to grow and then be killed suddenly...
#5 to #4 - anon (06/17/2014) [-]
"the jury's still out on whether plants can feel pain"
No, they have no nervous system , which is why animals and humans feel pain, they also have no brain to process pain, animals only feel pain so that they can save themselves from situation in which there bodies are being damaged, plant cant move they don't need to feel pain so they don't.
User avatar #58 to #5 - Ashtaroth (06/18/2014) [-]
Unfortunately, you are wrong...sorta. Plants emit pheromones when attacked or damaged that can be used to do anything from warn other nearby plants (of the same species, of course) that they need to start preparing whatever defensive mechanism they have to counter being attacked. In some cases these pheromones even summon insects that have a symbiotic relationship with the plant and will defend it. The plant specifically evolves over time to emit a smell that its defender bugs will come to. So yes, plants can "feel" pain. Perhaps not in the way animal life does, but it is pain and they are screaming using smells. Scientific fact pal.
User avatar #335 to #58 - xxbutthurtxx (06/19/2014) [-]
What our deer anon friends in comment 106 and 105 don't get is that the stress hormones the plants emmits is a ******* EQUIVALENT to pain + stress hormones afterwards. The plant doesn't know pain but why would it be less worse for the plant to get damaged (relativity bitches).

Anyway your response was very accurate.

And besides watch Adventure Time season 6 ep. 7 thats sorta related (you can see the stress in Fins face) and do some drugs while you are at it kids
#315 to #58 - becauseyoutoldmeto (06/18/2014) [-]
That is also sorta wrong, but it's a complicated issue so no worries...

You are certainly right regarding how (some) plants react to tissue damage, but your choice of words is very misleading. Pain is a very specific sensation and occurs when the central nervous system receives a specific neurochemical message, interprets it, then produces that "ouch" sensation. It is in the mind, the same way that colors are simply the brain's subjective interpretation of visible EM frequencies.

The reason that pain does not apply to plants is because plants have no capacity to experience pain in the slightest. They lack a centralized nervous system (or any nervous tissue for that matter) to interpret and produce any sensation, and in a broader picture they're not even sentient. The way plants undergo a systemic response to damage is no more "automated" than the way your body reacts to a cut in your skin. Your leukocytes gathering to the site to fight incoming pathogens, the gathering of platelets to clot and prevent blood loss. It's the same concept for plants, but they don't feel a thing. The scientific community has nearly always recognized that the plant kingdom lacks any sort of "thinking" or awareness.
User avatar #336 to #315 - xxbutthurtxx (06/19/2014) [-]
Please read my comment on his comment I'm pretty sure he meant it this way, not sure tho. Just a guess
#341 to #336 - becauseyoutoldmeto (06/20/2014) [-]
Yeah, you're right about that. As I said though, he made a fair point, but it was just his choice of words. A plant's "disaster response" is more like an automated, built-in protocol than anything, much like how our body reacts to an unwanted breach in the integument. There's no pain involved, and the very point of this discussion is that specific sensation of pain , not a similarly related mechanism. So from my point of view, it was a bit redundant / irrelevant to bring up that point. Nonetheless, no bad feelings in the end I hope.
User avatar #343 to #341 - xxbutthurtxx (06/21/2014) [-]
nah not at all
#105 to #58 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
No you are wrong, you started of by stating a fact, some plants like grass emit pheromones when damaged, that is not what pain is , like at all. Honestly, that beginning statement had like nothing to do with the second part.

A nerve provides a common pathway for the electrochemical nerve impulses that are transmitted along each of the axons to peripheral organs.

That is what a nerve is, because clearly you do not know, you need those to feel thing, every creature on earth capable of feeling anything has them.

Animals feel pain because they need to respond to damage with movement, plants do not because they some respond to damage through pheremones. They can't move, pain would offer them nothing , and no its not just " a diffrent kind of pain "
#106 to #58 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]

Pain- a distressing sensation in a particular part of the body
Plants have no brains or emotions they can not feel distress, they do not have nerves so they can not feel sensation

Pain is the tool given by evolution so we can respond to damage, but pain itself is not how we solve the problem, that wouldn't make sense, if a wolf bites you your nerves light up and send impulses to your brain which lets you know you need to move, movement would be the response not pain.
User avatar #6 to #5 - platinumaltaria (06/17/2014) [-]
Your kind of close-minded thinking just shows that you feel that you are superior to plants. You owe your life to those green bastards, and I think it's time you checked your animal privilege... JK you make an excellent point... But who's to say that plants feel in the same way we do?
#7 to #6 - anon (06/17/2014) [-]
Basic Science. pain is a complex system of stimuli and a central nervous system that requires a brain to process, they literally are not complex enough to feel pain, its like trying to run a super computer on a digital watch, the tools to do it just aren't there.

"how do you know girls cant get kicked in the nuts, who's to say that girls feel in the same way we do?"

Because it is literally impossible. there are no nuts to kick.
User avatar #8 to #7 - platinumaltaria (06/17/2014) [-]
Very good analogy. But plants are friends... Except grass. Grass is an asshole...
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you can't buy methylamine.
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#33 - corsairair (06/18/2014) [-]
Sometimes I wonder about eating meat.

As someone who really cares about animals and always help them when they are in trouble, even wild animals that are dangerous, I really wonder why I continue to eat meat. Meat is just so damn good, but I don't like the idea of animals being butchered. Oh well, I am having meat for dinner tonight.
User avatar #37 to #33 - roninneko (06/18/2014) [-]
I like eating meat, but that's also because I bring it down myself on some occasions. On the occasions on which I buy it, my thinking is basically, "well... it's already dead... and if I don't someone else will... and the species isn't going to stop eating meat anytime soon, so demand sure ain't going down, so they'll be slaughtered anyway... might as well get some tasty stuff out of it!"
User avatar #69 to #37 - corsairair (06/18/2014) [-]
True. If they were killed I will eat the meat and make their deaths at least have value.
#38 to #33 - newtoast (06/18/2014) [-]
Nothing wrong with it. Do you think chickens and cows aren't going to be eaten by wolves and coyotes? Do you think humans wouldn't be a mountain lion's little snack in a second if not for our tools?

Plants turn sun into food. Animals eat plants for food. Animals eat animals for food. It's just a web of energy transfer. No single part of it is special, humans just found ways to ensure a consistent supply of energy.
User avatar #68 to #38 - corsairair (06/18/2014) [-]
Good point! I think it's just how we industrialize it that is a bit off putting.
User avatar #80 to #33 - secondlawprevails (06/18/2014) [-]
WE have sculpted entire species into food suppliers for our convenience, Without humans, Cows, and several varieties of pgs would go extinct. Appreciate all the selective breeding your ancestors did and enjoy your bacon.
User avatar #91 to #33 - klaes (06/18/2014) [-]
The vast majority of meat people eat is from animals which are bred specifically for consumption. The reason eating 'exotic' meats like alligator and/or dolphin is that they are not bred on farms, they are caught in the wild in their natural habitats and slaughtered.

The animals you are eating wouldn't exist if it weren't for the fact that people like to consume them. Their populations would be a lot smaller, namely only the small fraction of them that actually live in the wild.

This isn't to say animal cruelty isn't an issue, it most certainly is. That said, you shouldn't feel guilty for having a delicious slab of steak on your plate.
User avatar #135 to #33 - fukinitech (06/18/2014) [-]
animals eat other animals so i guess that gives an excuse to eat them. They sedate the animals before killing them so they don't feel anything if that makes you feel better.
and if you're someone who believes in god animals were put on the planet to serve humans, so it'd be weird not to eat them.
User avatar #154 to #33 - graphenz (06/18/2014) [-]
I recently went vegetarian and live with two vegans, at first I thought the same, how in the living hell can I live without meat? - Then I found out about fake meat, I have never been this astonished in my life, I order from a German website (I'm Danish) and they have stuff called RaucherSpeck, it takes like bloody bacon! - the resemblance is uncanny. They have all sorts of fake meat and it tastes great, some of it sucks balls though, but when you find that one thing that tastes amazing and is healthy you mind will be blown

That made it quite easy for me to make the transistion
User avatar #288 to #154 - chimpaflimp (06/18/2014) [-]
Fake meat should be illegal. You made your choice.
User avatar #319 to #288 - graphenz (06/18/2014) [-]
That's really an uneducated answer you got there. So the Soy patties they use in some burger chains should be banned? And for that matter, if you choose to watch an animated movie, should real movies be illegal?...

Why in the world would you try to state something like that, are you trying to be edgy? - hang out with the cool kids who eat meat? What exactly are you trying to achieve?
User avatar #337 to #319 - chimpaflimp (06/19/2014) [-]
Found the vegan.
User avatar #338 to #337 - graphenz (06/19/2014) [-]
6edgy12me.
#85 to #33 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
It's an addiction. You were raised with a taste of meat in your mouth every day. This addiction also is the reason why vegans or vegetarians are met with such hatred. People know that the way animals are treated is wrong, but they can't stop and don't like to be reminded of their wrongdoings.
#110 to #85 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
Addiction is the continued repetition of a behavior despite adverse consequences, or a neurological impairment leading to such behaviors.

So no, eating meat is good for you. it literally can't be an addiction if it isn't harmful.
#196 to #110 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
So you think the suffering of billions of animals is not an "adverse consequence"..?

Denial, quite typical for addicts.
#276 - noendinsight (06/18/2014) [-]
vegans dont know whats good.
vegans dont know whats good.
User avatar #36 to #21 - ninjaroo ONLINE (06/18/2014) [-]
They don't eat any animals, so you have to eat every animal on earth three times.
#31 - ohlookathing (06/18/2014) [-]
I really don't have a problem with people believing whatever they want to believe, but I almost always have a problem with people forcing that belief on others, whether it's "good" or "bad" (which is usually relative in the first place).

I would have just as much of a problem with a non-vegan forcing their beliefs on a vegan as I would the other way around. It's just the forcing that I don't like.
#109 to #31 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
"I really don't have a problem with people believing whatever they want to believe"
-good to know, were all happy you approve, your opinions means a lot to me random internet guy.

Also what you said is why the holocaust happened.

what you don't want me to rape people and eat babies, well don't force your beliefs on me, good and bad is relative, besides random internet guy is cool with it.
#119 to #31 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
#32 to #31 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
k.
User avatar #24 - vashford (06/17/2014) [-]
Starting next week, my mother is going to try to force me into a vegan diet.

she will try...
#89 to #24 - collegedood (06/18/2014) [-]
**collegedood rolled image**
Just so you know, I expect you to fill your freezer with steak and chicken, plus your fridge with jerky, slim jims, eggs, and milk while wearing a leather coat.
Then I expect you to post results.
User avatar #156 to #24 - graphenz (06/18/2014) [-]
Awww, she's trying to make you healthy, what a cruel heartless bitch.
If you don't want, say no, quit the 3edgy5me.
#94 - anderps (06/18/2014) [-]
A message to all you Vegan ***** , My food ***** on your food.

******* Grass eaters.
User avatar #340 to #94 - graphenz (06/19/2014) [-]
Soo your food ***** on the grass, which then is eaten by you food.... so ehm.... aren't you eating **** too?
User avatar #342 to #340 - anderps (06/20/2014) [-]
But at least it has taste.
#116 to #94 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
Who the **** eats grass?!
#201 to #116 - anon (06/18/2014) [-]
Cows. They eat their own **** and then turn it into meat, eaten by anderps.

Bloody brilliant.
#128 to #116 - pettdavids (06/18/2014) [-]
Not only grass is fertilized by dung
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