the job market. everyone wants experience. LEI Randy I. mfw I need one year related experience to work as a Water Plant Operator Trainee. And here i thought trainee meant something else. Job


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#20 - PlaystationGuy (04/23/2014) [-]
I saw a few jobs for ENTRY level Office Assistants and they wanted 3 years experience. I think they need a dictionary.
#57 to #20 - missing (04/23/2014) [-]
We want somebody with 5 years experience in Windows Server 2012.

Like the name says. Many jobs on IT level require a **** ton of experience for many applications that are barely a couple of years old.
User avatar #81 to #57 - hawaiianhappysauce (04/23/2014) [-]
The reason for this is the HR. The HR is the dumbest person in the world and you have to avoid HR AT ALL COST.
#132 to #81 - firesky (04/24/2014) [-]
>apply for a job
>avoid HR
choose one

My sister actually works in HR and the requirements are most of the time the ones of the department chief who needs a new employee, at least were we work.
HR normally is just there for the interview to judge your social skills.
User avatar #185 to #132 - hawaiianhappysauce (04/24/2014) [-]
The jobs I ended up with (i.e. internship jobs) I had a referral and just went straight into the job. So yes, skipping the HR is the best thing to do and it's possible.
#191 to #185 - firesky (04/24/2014) [-]
Well, if you have a referral were I work you'll automatically get a job interview, but if you don't leave a good impression you still don't get a job. The interview is with someone of the HR and the department chief of the job you applied for.
User avatar #203 to #191 - hawaiianhappysauce (04/24/2014) [-]
Still better than the no pile.
#204 to #203 - firesky (04/24/2014) [-]
Of course.
#36 to #20 - anon (04/23/2014) [-]
Best one I've seen was where they wanted some of the age 20-25 or so with at least 10 years experience... -.-'
User avatar #65 to #36 - shooptube (04/23/2014) [-]
Unless it's professional masturbator i feel like they;re **** outta luck
#99 to #65 - anon (04/23/2014) [-]
I may be overqualified for this position.
User avatar #146 to #36 - franklyimaperson (04/24/2014) [-]
Best I've ever seen was an entry level position at a third shift warehouse that asked for at least 5 years experience with a lathe
#37 to #36 - anon (04/23/2014) [-]
#1 - swagloon (04/23/2014) [-]
mfw I need one year related experience to work as a Water Plant Operator Trainee. And here i thought trainee meant something else.
#184 to #1 - anon (04/24/2014) [-]
put in for it no matter what. As long as you are close they may still hire you. No one ever matches all the qualifications for a job. I know this. I do the hiring for my company, and no one is ever close to fully qualified.
User avatar #4 to #1 - Keithazoid (04/23/2014) [-]
ahha holy **** dude I'm trying to get the same job. you get any State certifications? they love to see those in the applications and will forgive you not having a year experience. if not look up "T1" or "D1" and get both of them
User avatar #5 to #4 - swagloon (04/23/2014) [-]
Thanks for the info. Yea, this semester of college is about up and I need a summer job at the very least; I don't mind how much I get paid as long as I make some sort of income but just about every entry job needs some sort of experience that you can't get by volunteering.
I'll see what I can do about that certification. Good luck to you.
#7 - iamsammich (04/23/2014) [-]
i applied for a summer internship in australia. they said they were looking for young undergraduates in need of research experience   
mfw they legitimately didn't accept me because i wasn't experienced enough
i applied for a summer internship in australia. they said they were looking for young undergraduates in need of research experience
mfw they legitimately didn't accept me because i wasn't experienced enough
#9 to #7 - knightra (04/23/2014) [-]
waht a coincidence. I applied to a co-op that claimed they also wanted undergrad students but for some reason wanted at some related experience.
User avatar #10 to #9 - iamsammich (04/23/2014) [-]
i want to be a field biologist and it kind of sucks
you need to get jobs to get experience to get jobs
but that's how it is with lots of occupations
it's like, how the **** did these people get their first job in the field?
User avatar #83 to #10 - hawaiianhappysauce (04/23/2014) [-]
They got it through connections.
#62 to #10 - shadowgandalf (04/23/2014) [-]
The internet weren't popular back then, so small scale document forgery would go unnoticed in industrial branches.
#13 to #10 - knightra (04/23/2014) [-]
it's sad when it's hard to even get experience when you aren't even accepted for internships that you are not paid for. I'm also an undergrad I search everywhere for work to help with my school fee's and I'm just doing retail right now. And I look for volunteer/internship that could get me exp but being a student sucks.

I have an older friend who has been working for a longer time tell me that business for some reason upscale the standards that are required for the job, so he got into the job with a mere highschool diploma back then and now when you lookup the prerequisites for applying it wants a university degree(any degree for some reason).
#102 to #13 - anon (04/24/2014) [-]
It's because there are so many unemployed people right now that they get loads of applications. By upping the prerequisites, they have less to process. I'm in the same boat as you though, uni student working retail. Sucks right?
#112 to #102 - knightra (04/24/2014) [-]
well, yeah, most student do any kind of part time work to help with school fees while in school. Most people that work at mcdonalds/other fast food/restaurants are high school/undergrad students/same with retail.

I do a lot of small things, hell one time I worked in a factory and did a paper route for a few weeks
#3 - theannoyingFJguy (04/23/2014) [-]
There's always options out there
#14 - thechosentroll (04/23/2014) [-]
I literally lack the qualifications to be a garbage man in my city. I checked. Peeeeeeeeeeerfeeeeeeeect. Just ******* perfect.
User avatar #31 to #14 - Einsty ONLINE (04/23/2014) [-]
How come?
User avatar #32 to #31 - thechosentroll (04/23/2014) [-]
They want prior experience. This is one of the maybe 5 jobs in the country that offers no volunteering or training programs, meaning it's literally impossible to get said experience. Also, they only hire gypsies, so they can pay them below minimal wage.
#61 to #32 - shadowgandalf (04/23/2014) [-]
Here in DK, a garbage man gets paid fairly well(around $8.000/month)
What i will never understand however, is why it takes 3 years of study time to become a ******* mover...
User avatar #33 to #32 - Einsty ONLINE (04/23/2014) [-]
You speak of gypsies taking garbage man jobs. Are you from my country or is the issue elsewhere as well?

Also, that sucks.

I am starting to think companies above a certain number of employees should be required to offer job training/ volunteer positions to a set number of potential applicants.
User avatar #35 to #33 - thechosentroll (04/23/2014) [-]
Nope, different country. It's just that a lot of gypsies don't bother getting birth certificates, so, as far as the government's concerned, they don't exist, meaning employers don't have to pay their insurance or make a proper contract with them, meaning they can literally work for a sandwich a day.
User avatar #84 to #14 - jokerjack (04/23/2014) [-]
So quit bitching about it and get some qualifications in something instead of wishing for a job to fall in your lap
#133 to #14 - firesky (04/24/2014) [-]
You could make an postgraduate course
#51 to #14 - kez (04/23/2014) [-]
What makes you think you're above being a garbage man anyways?
User avatar #52 to #51 - thechosentroll (04/23/2014) [-]
No, that's just it. I'm BELOW being a garbage man. I don't qualify. I can't become a garbage man, because I lack the qualifications.
#53 to #52 - kez (04/23/2014) [-]
Yeah, but what I mean is, why did you choose the garbage man as a example of the lowest job you cant get like anyone who isnt heavily disabled can do it.

The main problem with no jobs is people just think they are worth more than they are. Not having a go at you or saying its about you, i dont know you, just wondering what makes you think you deserve this amazing job and other jobs are below you?
#54 to #53 - thechosentroll (04/23/2014) [-]
I think what we have here is a bit of a failure to communicate.
I think what we have here is a bit of a failure to communicate.
User avatar #169 to #53 - penileburglar (04/24/2014) [-]
...You are seriously overanalyzing. There's not the slightest mplication that he feels he's 'above' that job or any others. Just that it sounds like a simple job, and yet even it has strict qualifications, relevant to the content and majority of the comments.
User avatar #59 to #14 - pappathethird (04/23/2014) [-]
garbage men get paid a lot. At least where I'm from.
User avatar #116 to #59 - vatra (04/24/2014) [-]
Oh course, no one would agree to handle other people's waste for crap wages.
#55 - Darianvincent ONLINE (04/23/2014) [-]
#67 to #55 - anon (04/23/2014) [-]
Lol volunteer and stop being a lazy cunt
inb4 hur dur i cant pay bills with volunteer work
lol you can't pay bills with not having a job *******
User avatar #87 to #67 - lolollo (04/23/2014) [-]
Because volunteering doesn't solve the problems caused by not having a job ******* !
User avatar #115 to #87 - captainwow (04/24/2014) [-]
Yes it does. it gets you a job.
User avatar #117 to #115 - lolollo (04/24/2014) [-]
No, you eventually get a job. Good luck negotiating with your landlord to eventually collect rent.
#138 to #117 - stalini ONLINE (04/24/2014) [-]
dont you have parents or something?
User avatar #140 to #138 - lolollo (04/24/2014) [-]
Go home Mitt Romney, you lost the election 2 years ago.
#141 to #140 - stalini ONLINE (04/24/2014) [-]
no, seriously, if you are not able to find a job, why don't you volunteer and live at your parents
User avatar #142 to #141 - lolollo (04/24/2014) [-]
Because some of us are actual striving for the independence society keeps demanding we strive for.
#143 to #142 - stalini ONLINE (04/24/2014) [-]
well, strive for it when you can actually afford it
User avatar #145 to #143 - lolollo (04/24/2014) [-]
I don't think you get the point, dude.
#148 to #145 - stalini ONLINE (04/24/2014) [-]
well, I don't get you Americans and your huge urge to leave your parents ASAP
User avatar #149 to #148 - lolollo (04/24/2014) [-]
"Because some of us are actual striving for the independence society keeps demanding we strive for."
#150 to #149 - stalini ONLINE (04/24/2014) [-]
well, **** you *****
#96 to #87 - anon (04/23/2014) [-]
Well it's a way out of that cycle rather than just bitching about it.
User avatar #98 to #96 - lolollo (04/23/2014) [-]
Or employers hiring for menial positions can realize that the kid they eventually hire isn't going to have millions of years employment experience, nor will he need to for something like "burger flipper"
User avatar #194 to #98 - thebritishguy (04/24/2014) [-]
You still need experience for a reference which says
"Showed up on time, didn't kill anyone, had basic hygiene"
Even if you are applying for a job as a burger flipper.
User avatar #196 to #194 - lolollo (04/24/2014) [-]
User avatar #197 to #196 - thebritishguy (04/24/2014) [-]
Why the **** would I want to join the military, they turn you into a robot. I dissagree with what my government is doing in other countries.
User avatar #198 to #197 - lolollo (04/24/2014) [-]
Fine, good luck with other sources of experience for showing up to places on time, not killing anyone, and having good hygiene. You joining the military holds no weight on my conscious.
User avatar #199 to #198 - thebritishguy (04/24/2014) [-]
The military wouldn't be a good reference for not killing anyone you dumb **** , I already have several references for those thingfs by volunteering and doing work experience.
User avatar #202 to #199 - lolollo (04/24/2014) [-]
User avatar #200 to #199 - lolollo (04/24/2014) [-]
oh yes, because me resume from my time as a more did is a long list of killing people.
you can always try to make the rest of us non conservatives not look bad, you realise?
User avatar #68 to #67 - Darianvincent ONLINE (04/23/2014) [-]
You seem a bit hostile there anon. Is something wrong there pal?
User avatar #75 to #68 - sladee (04/23/2014) [-]
he lost his job
User avatar #64 to #55 - thebritishguy (04/23/2014) [-]
You can get experience from volunteering and work placements, they're pretty easy to get onto.
#106 - turbodoosh ONLINE (04/24/2014) [-]
MFW I apply for all these jobs and not even one will give me a call back.
MFW I apply for all these jobs and not even one will give me a call back.
User avatar #118 to #106 - bobthedilder (04/24/2014) [-]
Call them
#136 to #106 - legamethatyoulost (04/24/2014) [-]
i know that feel
User avatar #164 to #106 - ratytang (04/24/2014) [-]
Nice gif, wonder who made it?
#166 to #106 - ratytang (04/24/2014) [-]
Say hello to the al' mighty ratytang
Say hello to the al' mighty ratytang
User avatar #119 to #106 - Ragumshnagum (04/24/2014) [-]
It's because you're white.
User avatar #120 to #119 - turbodoosh ONLINE (04/24/2014) [-]
Is that the trend now in engineering?
User avatar #122 to #120 - turbodoosh ONLINE (04/24/2014) [-]
Because I stopped answering those self-identity forms
User avatar #155 to #122 - delio (04/24/2014) [-]
well from what I have learned Blacks and middle eastern/indian people are more likely to get the same ****** job as you because everyone believes in this multiculturalism ********
User avatar #177 to #120 - anonymouzx (04/24/2014) [-]
what kind of engineer are you? thought engineers would have no problem getting jobs
User avatar #201 to #177 - turbodoosh ONLINE (04/24/2014) [-]
Civil engineer. Apparently it's incredibly competitive in Boston which is why my **** fails
User avatar #45 - hyeroshi (04/23/2014) [-]
Who was the one who had the idea to put experience requirements on entry level and trainee jobs. 20 years from now we'll end up with a bunch of middle aged people with a lack of job skills because of stuff like this.
User avatar #2 - PubLandlord (04/23/2014) [-]
I'm at Uni and needed a part time job, so found a leafleting job. It involves one day a week for around 4 hours, going to every house down a road and putting a kebab menu through the letter box.

On the job advert they wanted leafleting experience. It's quite literally a job a monkey could do. You can't even get lost because all you need to do is find houses to put the leaflets in, and you're already in a street surrounded by houses.

The training would involve
"See that house, put this in the letter box, and repeat 1000 times"

User avatar #85 to #2 - vyrustfr (04/23/2014) [-]
From own experience recommending to find a Saturday job at Royal Mail (or any other alternative). I've worked there for a year now, through first year of Uni, the pay is amazing for a standard weekend job Currently on £10/hr and it's ******* easy. No experience or super grades needed, easy interview, Plus overtime during the week is always easy to get.
#88 to #2 - Penn (04/23/2014) [-]
What the **** is a letter box?

I'm not qualified for this job

I'm kidding by the way.
#6 to #2 - anon (04/23/2014) [-]
They **** us, that's why. We should kill all rich people.
#12 to #6 - vorarephilia (04/23/2014) [-]
Good idea. No way that could go wrong.
#41 - kingcoote (04/23/2014) [-]
MFW You get told you are over qualified for a job.
MFW You get told you are over qualified for a job.
User avatar #44 to #41 - instakill (04/23/2014) [-]
tell them that you do not mind and you need to work, most employers will accept that as long as you acknowledge it
#46 to #44 - kingcoote (04/23/2014) [-]
Thank you, I shall, I am getting fed up of that reason, as you said I need to work, there's no such thing as a bad job...well maybe gay pornstar or OP's man servant.
Thank you, I shall, I am getting fed up of that reason, as you said I need to work, there's no such thing as a bad job...well maybe gay pornstar or OP's man servant.
User avatar #49 to #46 - instakill (04/23/2014) [-]
no problem man, and in fact I just got a job less than an hour ago that I was extremely overqualified for by saying that
User avatar #66 to #49 - dontdeletemyuser (04/23/2014) [-]
i keep getting jobs im not qualified for. worked as a bouncer at a bar before i even turned 18.
User avatar #70 to #66 - pizzaweed (04/23/2014) [-]
Teach me your ways
User avatar #71 to #70 - dontdeletemyuser (04/23/2014) [-]
i know people.
User avatar #72 to #71 - pizzaweed (04/23/2014) [-]
**** people.

On an unrelated note, I know why I don't have a job now
User avatar #73 to #72 - dontdeletemyuser (04/23/2014) [-]
did you **** people as your last job? were you a male prostitute?

i wish i was a male prostitute..
User avatar #74 to #73 - pizzaweed (04/23/2014) [-]
You have no proof of these accusations!

It's not as glamorous as you think.. Not a lot of sexy chicks want to pay for sex
User avatar #76 to #74 - dontdeletemyuser (04/23/2014) [-]
oh well.

on a completely unrelated note, in norway we have this kinda christian society called the salvation army and i was wondering.. if i ever won the lottery and came up to them with 500k in cash and said this is my profit from prostituting myself to catholic priests.. would they still want the money... hmmm srsly ive given this a great deal of thought
User avatar #77 to #76 - pizzaweed (04/23/2014) [-]
Yeah... lotsa nasty old men and women who no one in their right mind would bone.

I dob't know, personally, I'd find it hilarious... I think they might try to convince you to stay quite and relocate the priests you said you banged
User avatar #78 to #77 - dontdeletemyuser (04/23/2014) [-]
some people like dat **** tho

guess I'll have to win the weekly lottery and try!
User avatar #79 to #78 - pizzaweed (04/23/2014) [-]
Crazy people

Good luck!
User avatar #80 to #79 - dontdeletemyuser (04/23/2014) [-]
hmm crazy people need sleep.

thanks! I'm going to bed, laturs
User avatar #156 to #80 - loonquawl (04/24/2014) [-]

I just wanted everyone to click one more eyeball.
#144 to #77 - anon (04/24/2014) [-]
Salvation Army has nothing to do with the Church. The only "Christian" thing about it is the people who created it happened to be Christian.
User avatar #105 to #76 - instakill (04/24/2014) [-]
we have the salvation army here in the US
User avatar #205 to #49 - kingcoote (04/25/2014) [-]
Congratulations on your job, I have made a note and will use that. Again thank you.
#39 - anon (04/23/2014) [-]
**anonymous rolled image** stop complaining you dicks! Go out there, yank the managers by the balls and tell them the job is yours. They don't choose, you do!


I'm currently serving life for pulling too hard on someone's testicles and yanking them off. Good wifi here though.
User avatar #40 to #39 - instakill (04/23/2014) [-]
was going to thumb you down but ended up laughing instead
User avatar #8 - lean (04/23/2014) [-]
No one should ever bitch about entry level pay, especially if you are just out of school or have little experience in that field. Your college degree is not and never will be a job guarantee, it's more like a shiny sign that gets the attention of employers. You start out and advance in a career based on your merits and hard work, not how good you were at taking tests and giving speeches.

- A college dropout with a very good job.
#11 to #8 - knightra (04/23/2014) [-]
Yeah, I know, degrees arent the guarantee job vouchers they used to be in the 90's and 2000's. I'm currently in my third year, I have older senior friends who actually have the related experiences since they've done co-ops, internship and volunteering and still have a hard time getting accepting into an entry level job relating to their studies..
User avatar #15 to #11 - lean (04/23/2014) [-]
I tell every young person who asks to either get a useful degree in college, or go to a tech school and get into a trade/ union. Polisci majors and womens studies are a waste of money, and it should be a crime to let these idiots graduate with 4 year degrees in useless information.
User avatar #86 to #15 - hawaiianhappysauce (04/23/2014) [-]
I think there are many majors that are useless but many advisers claim that they are useful. I would say most engineering degrees are useless (the only ones that are useful are software, Electrical, civil, and biomedical). An Econ major is worthless, Business Major is worthless, Finance Major is worthless, Math Major is worthless, Statistics Major is worthless, and Communications is worthless. Sooner or later even the Software and Electrical engineers will be flushed out by India.

By the way, India is the biggest threat to our employment rate. China already took all the manufacturing jobs, so that's past us. But India is going to take most of the tech jobs within a decade.
#175 to #86 - cowboysfivexsbs (04/24/2014) [-]
I'd say chemical and petrolem enginerring aren't worthless degrees. I just got a degree in chemical and everyone in my class and teh class before me had ebtry level jobs.
User avatar #186 to #175 - hawaiianhappysauce (04/24/2014) [-]
I guess it depends on where you live because my friends who are Chem Majors or Chem Engineering majors can't find jack squat.
#16 to #15 - knightra (04/23/2014) [-]
yeah, but that isnt the case, most of them had science related major like computer science, they're are usually the kind to make fun of polci and philosophy/psychology.

and the thing is I really worry that once I graduate my degree will be virtually useless when trying to market myself. I have some other friends from highschool who went to a trade school for a short time and are already doing good work while I'm still in my third year getting stressed with projects and rising debts.
User avatar #19 to #16 - lean (04/23/2014) [-]
The biggest advantage to college is going to job fairs. The companies there are typically hiring and looking for entry level employees. Apply at them all, even if your degree doesn't relate. A degree is just proof that you can apply yourself, and there are a ton of people who get hired before finishing a degree.
#23 to #19 - knightra (04/23/2014) [-]
yeah, I go to my schools job fairs and many of them are over crowded, not related to my studies and a lot of the rest arent even hiring since they just wanted to make their busiess get known for some reason.
#18 to #8 - escapade (04/23/2014) [-]
That may be so, however, as someone who is just finishing university and currently looking for jobs I can safely say that my degree was advertised to me as something that would put me at least a little bit ahead. I left a very good entry level job to do my degree, but now nobody is interested in employing me because I have spent the last 3 years in education rather than getting work experience.

also, work experience is divided into categories, such as "i worked part time to pay for bills" and "i worked in relevant jobs to get experience in the field". the first one no longer counts as work experience, instead employers want to see more than that - something which is almost impossible to achieve whilst also in education.

therefore, as an early 20's graduate, my degree means nothing. Everywhere that I have applied for, that is relevant to my degree, has referred me to their unpaid, full-time internship programmes. I cannot afford to do that. So the situation as I see it is DONT GET A DEGREE, start working as soon as possible. I just spent the last 3 years paying for education which will not make me any more desirable, whilst not being able to get any proper work because i can only do part time - so i have no experience, and the skills I have gained are worthless? **** you. **** them, **** this, **** that, **** everyone that told me to drop my job and go do a degree.
User avatar #21 to #18 - lean (04/23/2014) [-]
Yeah, they were wrong. I realized that 3 years into engineering. Dropped out, got a job, now (5 years later) I have a business card that says engineering on it. Weird.
#25 to #21 - escapade (04/23/2014) [-]
I worked as an admin at a financial company for 10 months before my degree. in that time i did all the **** jobs like post and emails and phones and databases etc. but then i started getting trained in finances. had to call it quits and go to university.

3 years later, looking for jobs. my name must have been on some database because they thought i still worked at the finance firm. some recruiter emails me asking if i wanted a job. had to have XYZ qualification in finance, starting salary £70k a year.

MFW i could have got those qualifications, whilst getting paid, had i not gone to uni.

(i dont have a picture, but i was sad. imagine.)
#42 to #25 - instakill (04/23/2014) [-]
like this?
like this?
#43 to #42 - escapade (04/23/2014) [-]
Dr Burgundy: anchor who
User avatar #27 to #25 - lean (04/23/2014) [-]
yeah 70k would be awesome salary. I think I am slightly less than that, depending on how ****** the American dollar has gotten. 100k/yr.
I would try to contact the recruiter, saying exactly what you told me. The option may still be there
#28 to #27 - escapade (04/23/2014) [-]
im sure the option is still there, but only if i had the right financial qualifications. i dont, i just have a degree in something else.
User avatar #29 to #28 - lean (04/23/2014) [-]
What's the harm in trying? There is no law that says you have to work within your degree.
#30 to #29 - escapade (04/23/2014) [-]
.........what? I cannot have that job without qualifications that i do not have.
User avatar #34 to #30 - lean (04/23/2014) [-]
Sure you can. I'm not an engineer, but that is my job title and what I do for work. The only jobs that require degrees are those that have legal requirements, lawyers, doctors, etc.
User avatar #22 to #8 - mastertarium (04/23/2014) [-]
Out of curiosity, what job do you have?
User avatar #24 to #22 - lean (04/23/2014) [-]
Estimation engineer for a large commercial manufacturing company. We do plastic fabrication signage and displays. I build and price jobs, enter bids, etc. Started out in prototype design, actually building (by hand) the one off models that a client hopefully ordered 10,000 of.
User avatar #90 to #24 - lolollo (04/23/2014) [-]
You know what the guy with a degree in engineering is doing?
He's telling you to build his prototypes for 10x the money.
User avatar #192 to #90 - lean (04/24/2014) [-]
Was*. And no, in my field when I did prototypes I worked directly with designers, both in my company and with client teams. I was the practical "you cant glue to painted surfaces" guy. Then it went to engineers for drafting and production model design.
User avatar #195 to #192 - lolollo (04/24/2014) [-]
However you've convinced yourself what you do is important is no concern of mine, I'm happy for you.
User avatar #26 to #24 - mastertarium (04/23/2014) [-]
Awesome. I do hope that I can find a job soon.
#56 to #8 - anon (04/23/2014) [-]
you sound insecure about not having a degree? why would you seriously be helping people
User avatar #58 to #56 - lean (04/23/2014) [-]
That's not a question? And what is wrong with helping people?
I am not insecure about not having a degree, it is just irritating the amount of people who think a degree in underwater basket weaving entitles them to a six figure salary. All a degree does is help you get a job. Not many people walk in to 6 figure salaries, it is something you work up to for years.

I know far to many people with their fancy college degree complaining about not having a job, when they have turned down $15/ hr because it is "below what they deserve". Gotta start somewhere, welcome to real life.
#60 to #58 - anon (04/23/2014) [-]
and sentences shouldnt begin with and - pure pedantry. Just pointing out that youre being excessively derogatory and condescending. You say you dont like entitled graduates but what you communicate is that you dont really want the people youre complaining about to listen, because they must first accept that their debt and years of work were a waste of time and they will never catch up with you. Who wants to hear that?
User avatar #193 to #60 - lean (04/24/2014) [-]
I am being derogatory for dramatic effect, and not being condescending at all. Many college students experience a bit of culture shock when the real world doesn't live up to the stories they have been told their whole life.

As for pedantry- a college educated person should know that it is perfectly acceptable to begin sentences with conjunctions; the idea that a sentence should never begin with 'and' is a common misnomer. Which school did you attend?
THAT is being condescending
User avatar #157 - loonquawl (04/24/2014) [-]
Just grow some tits. A wonderful thing to have while job hunting.
#159 to #157 - xcoreyx (04/24/2014) [-]
And then you'll get paid less
User avatar #162 to #159 - feelythefeel (04/24/2014) [-]
Patriarchy became legend. Legend became myth. Myth became MythBusters.
User avatar #167 to #162 - makotoitou (04/24/2014) [-]
Wrong. Legend became League. League became crippling depression and addiction.
User avatar #171 to #167 - iftheinternetcared (04/24/2014) [-]
All mid or feed!
User avatar #163 to #159 - commontroll (04/24/2014) [-]
User avatar #176 to #159 - loonquawl (04/24/2014) [-]
Actually true to an extent, but as an art teacher where pay is decided by the district, tits really do help when chatting with the middle aged male interviewer. Not saying its fair, but **** the other applicants, I'll take my little advantages where I can.
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User avatar #94 - lolollo (04/23/2014) [-]
Hey guys, I know you all have this fetish with Obama, and the apparent police state this country is becoming, but the easiest way to get job experience that isn't that ******** "just volunteer!" tip is to join the military.

They don't give a rats ass what sort of experience you have since most of the people they deal with are right out of high school anyway, along with the fact that they'll just think your training is **** anyway and put you through their training program anyway.

They pay you for the training, compensate for your school, pay you for the weekend a month you go run around in the desert, and employers will eat that **** up.
User avatar #107 to #94 - welfarekid (04/24/2014) [-]
Right? I am 18 I graduate in 19 days and I already have my future set, I am in delayed entry as a Nuclear Engineer in the Navy. I get payed to got to 2 years of school and my degree will be from MIT, when I leave the military my job is typically triple digits first year, and I have military experience, and I can go to school again for another degree with the GI bill.
#103 to #94 - anon (04/24/2014) [-]
Somehow i'm doubting the military will give up all that free service, and then let me move on with my life without shooting some kids in the middle east.
User avatar #104 to #103 - lolollo (04/24/2014) [-]
Well of course they'd expect you to report every month, but as for the other thing, the good news is that they're not the imaginary military you've convinced yourself they are. That won't actually happen.
User avatar #108 to #103 - welfarekid (04/24/2014) [-]
Not kids, soldiers maybe, if you're infantry. MAYBE. It seems like you know nothing about the military and are probably just some kid who sits on the computer reading about what everyone else thinks instead of forming your own informed opinion.
Do you even know what reserves are?
#109 to #108 - anon (04/24/2014) [-]
You're a condescending asshole.

Now that that's out of the way..

It doesn't make logical sense to have millions of soldiers just sitting there and doing nothing. I didn't come to this conclusion by reading other people's opinions. And that also goes for kids dying conclusion as well. Of course children die in every war, no matter how beautiful and pure your opinion of the military is, war is hell. People that shouldn't die, do.
User avatar #113 to #109 - welfarekid (04/24/2014) [-]
Lol, less that one percent of the U.S. population is in the military. The Military. not Army alone, not Marines alone, the entire thing. That means less that 3 million people. We have 500,000 active Army members, and 300,000 active Marines.
"Millions of soldiers"
We aren't the ones strapping bombs to 8 year old children, we are the ones giving them food and water and picking up their wounded father off the battle field and returning them to the enemy base because they would leave the body there to rot.
I am not saying war is beautiful, I am not saying civilians don't die.
You said you don't want to shoot up children, and you know damn well the U.S. Military does not execute children.
#165 to #113 - anon (04/24/2014) [-]
Different Anonymous Here

Just wanted to comment on your point about the the U.S. Military not executing children. Information and stories from the Vietnam war have proven to me otherwise. Small squads would do what they called "Rock & Roll". That is when a small pit is dug around a village and all the villagers are told to get in it. Afterwards, the troops would stand on the edges, switch their rifles to full auto, and unload an entire magazine into the pit with extreme prejudice. There is a war story of a fellow American soldier witnessing this from a helicopter before the troops had time to kill the civilians. He told the pilot to circle around, fired upon his fellow men, and killed a few of them.

To state that the U.S. military is free of atrocities such as killing children, civilians, etc. is foolish. No military is perfect and innocents will be killed within the crossfires. **** happens.
User avatar #168 to #165 - klaes (04/24/2014) [-]
Using the Vietnam War, which if I may remind you was more than 25 years ago, as evidence that the current US military children kills civilians is silly. It's a bit too far back as far as history goes and there have been changes human rights/RoE since then.

"To state that the U.S. military is free of atrocities such as killing children, civilians, etc. is foolish. No military is perfect and innocents will be killed within the crossfires. **** happens."

Can't argue with that.
User avatar #190 to #168 - welfarekid (04/24/2014) [-]
Thank you for your intelligence, the anon's ignorance is showing.
User avatar #188 to #165 - welfarekid (04/24/2014) [-]
I am not talking about 60 years ago. I am talking about today, I yes, vietnam was a pretty bad war and I don't agree with many of our strategies used in that day.
But that is completely irrelevant to what we're talking about, which i the modern U.S. military
User avatar #189 to #188 - welfarekid (04/24/2014) [-]
Okay I exaggerated the 60. 40 years ago.
#123 to #113 - anon (04/24/2014) [-]
I'm not seeing those numbers anywhere on google.

even the lowest numbers go above 1 million.
User avatar #125 to #123 - welfarekid (04/24/2014) [-]
You are probably counting reserves (which I told you you probably no nothing about).
I am not explaining reserves because I am not your recruiter, but we are talking Active duty. Reserves don't go to Afghanistan, they don't even leave American soil.
#111 to #109 - anon (04/24/2014) [-]
And I personally know many soldiers. They refer to arabs as "sand ******* " "towel heads" and whatever else. I wouldn't doubt for a moment that some of those guys would kill a child just for target practice.
User avatar #114 to #111 - welfarekid (04/24/2014) [-]
That is a crime of war and they would be arrested, dishonorably discharged, and possibly sentenced to death. There you go talking out of your ass again.
#121 to #114 - anon (04/24/2014) [-]
making something a crime totally stops people from doing it.
all soldiers are good people and nothing bad happens in war.

got it.
User avatar #124 to #121 - welfarekid (04/24/2014) [-]
You are going full retard, I did not say that.
Here is an article of a man who killed 16 Afghan civilians.
(which is for your information, unheard of before then)
He was arrested sentenced to life without parole and discharged. (Like I just said above)
It totally depends on the person, but this is a rare case, this almost never happens, but you can't expect it not to happen every once in a while, just as a serial killers become prevalent at times, or civilians go crazy occasionally.
I am making perfect sense here. You should really think.
#126 to #124 - anon (04/24/2014) [-]
things always happen more often than reported. Even a full retard like yourself should know that.

and even if you were right, murder isn't the only problem here
User avatar #130 to #126 - welfarekid (04/24/2014) [-]
Also, sexual assault in the military can be as simple as something like "Damn look at her ass, what I would do to her." If someone overhears and doesn't like it.
They are very strict and that is why most cases don't go too far, they are handled on a small level, in less that 100 cases a year is it ever rape or groping.
#127 to #126 - anon (04/24/2014) [-]
So far you have convinced me of nothing. The military is a bad place, and unfortunately still necessary.

Maybe someday we'll stop killing each other for land or oil or whatever else becomes valuable. Maybe someday innocent people will stop dying for no apparent reason, but I doubt it very much. You talk just like every other military member, and it isn't impressive. see ya
User avatar #131 to #127 - welfarekid (04/24/2014) [-]
You sound like any other uneducated 16 year old who doesn't know what Libertarian is but swears up and down that is their political view.
#128 to #126 - welfarekid (04/24/2014) [-]
You just copied me with the full retard thing. Murder is different than accidental casualties which I told you already happen.

I am in the military dude. I definitely know about their rules on sexual assault, you can not go on to military property without hearing about sexual assault prevention, you are required to watch SAPR videos, there are pamphlets and posters about it in every single military office. (SAPR is military sexual assault prevention).

pictures related, my friends also in the Navy on an Sailors Against Sexual Assault march.
#48 - nmariokart (04/23/2014) [-]
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#181 - Coolinbny (04/24/2014) [-]
Mfw I just graduated college, was the president of a big club on campus, have two years of work experience in an office, have more years of just overall work experience, and have a good resume and I STILL can't find a job better than slicing deli meat.

Entry level jobs almost ALL require experience, so they force you to either work part time at a related job that pays less, work for free as an intern/apprentice just for the sake of experience, or find a job elsewhere IF you're lucky.
#69 - chancevance (04/23/2014) [-]
You gotta start small. I just hooked a job with a local carpenter gofering heavy **** all day long. `Nother guy needed a hand and saw me working, worked with him for a while. He stopped having jobs, introduced me to new guy where I worked for 6 months. Uncle saw I had 6 months experience as a carpenter and used it to convince his partner to hire me full time. Now I work from 8-4 every day mon-fri. Backbreaking **** , but $12 better than minimum wage.
User avatar #38 - zoologyexplain (04/23/2014) [-]
My local McDick's told me I needed at least a year of managerial experience to be considered for flipping burgers. *thumbsup*

******* college towns.
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