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Enterprise VS Star Destroyer

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User avatar #4 - TwelveCharlie (06/14/2013) [-]
Enterprise wins, they're the good guys.
#7 to #4 - vonspyder (06/14/2013) [-]
I agree that the Enterprise would win, and here is why: Despite numerous claims that turbolasers are UBERDESTROYPOWERFULLOMGWTFBBQ and others claim that because theyre lasers they can get past Enterprise shields. The truth is that Turbo lasers arent actual lasers but compressed plasma bolts which I would guess are roughly equal in power bolt for blast to phase cannon blasts. That said while they "cvan" damage the shields of the enterprise, the phasers of the enterprise can also cut through the shields of the star destroyer...and from what i can tell do so faster than the destroyer could do to them. Since we have witnessed xwings "kamikazeing" into star destroyers in areas other than the bridge to mild effect I think it is safe to say that a photon torpedo would cause mild damage to the hulll of a star destroyer...but what the star destroyer cannot defend against....once its shields are down....is the transporter technology of the enterprise. So in the end all they have to do is beam torpedoes or antimatter mines onto the star destroyer for the win.  Also, while not neccesarrily the most maneuverable ship in the startrek universe, Galaxy class ships are far more maneuverable than star destroyers, not to mention hyperdrives are not capable of pulling off the "picard maneuver" (brief light speed travel creating the illusio\on of two ships at the same time even to sensors) tactically the Enterprise would have the advantage.
I agree that the Enterprise would win, and here is why: Despite numerous claims that turbolasers are UBERDESTROYPOWERFULLOMGWTFBBQ and others claim that because theyre lasers they can get past Enterprise shields. The truth is that Turbo lasers arent actual lasers but compressed plasma bolts which I would guess are roughly equal in power bolt for blast to phase cannon blasts. That said while they "cvan" damage the shields of the enterprise, the phasers of the enterprise can also cut through the shields of the star destroyer...and from what i can tell do so faster than the destroyer could do to them. Since we have witnessed xwings "kamikazeing" into star destroyers in areas other than the bridge to mild effect I think it is safe to say that a photon torpedo would cause mild damage to the hulll of a star destroyer...but what the star destroyer cannot defend against....once its shields are down....is the transporter technology of the enterprise. So in the end all they have to do is beam torpedoes or antimatter mines onto the star destroyer for the win. Also, while not neccesarrily the most maneuverable ship in the startrek universe, Galaxy class ships are far more maneuverable than star destroyers, not to mention hyperdrives are not capable of pulling off the "picard maneuver" (brief light speed travel creating the illusio\on of two ships at the same time even to sensors) tactically the Enterprise would have the advantage.
User avatar #13 to #7 - TwelveCharlie (06/14/2013) [-]
You forgot something, NCC1701 can separate, the drive section is very maneuverable.
User avatar #14 to #13 - vonspyder (06/14/2013) [-]
while without the saucer, the star drive section is definitley more maneuverable, there are still more maneuverable starfleet vessels, inluding defiant-class, sovereign-class, akira-class, centaur-class, miranda-class, intrepid-class, nova-class, steamrunner-class, janolen-class, luna-class, danube-class, soyuz-class, and oberth-class. the following were less maneuverable: olympic, nebula, ambassador, excelsior, constellation, costitution, dreadnought, wellington, and holoship-type. yet every single one us more maneuverable than the Imperial-II class star destroyer.
#5 - jimjimmerson (06/14/2013) [-]
Because Lasers are SUPER EFFECTIVE against the Enterprise D's deflector shields...
#6 to #5 - vonspyder (06/14/2013) [-]
PREFAQCE: I am admittedly a Star Trek die hard, but, in the spirit of fairness Turbolaser is a colloqialism...they are not "lasers" as we know them but rather very highly energized blaster bolts which, while utilizing lasers, were in fact compressed plasma energy. So, hypothetically while "lasers": can not penetrate even the navigational shields of the enterprise, Turbolasers should hypothetically be able to damage the shields...If i were to to pitch an estimate, since turbolasers "can" destroy a shielded xwing in one hit (can, but usually dont) I would put them on par with the phase cannons of the USS defiant as far as energy per bolt, though much slower shooting and slower to acquire targets than phase cannon blasts. I think the shields of the Enterprise can still take quite a few hits from them though.
PREFAQCE: I am admittedly a Star Trek die hard, but, in the spirit of fairness Turbolaser is a colloqialism...they are not "lasers" as we know them but rather very highly energized blaster bolts which, while utilizing lasers, were in fact compressed plasma energy. So, hypothetically while "lasers": can not penetrate even the navigational shields of the enterprise, Turbolasers should hypothetically be able to damage the shields...If i were to to pitch an estimate, since turbolasers "can" destroy a shielded xwing in one hit (can, but usually dont) I would put them on par with the phase cannons of the USS defiant as far as energy per bolt, though much slower shooting and slower to acquire targets than phase cannon blasts. I think the shields of the Enterprise can still take quite a few hits from them though.
User avatar #8 to #6 - jimjimmerson (06/14/2013) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNxhrPaaCA4

I'll just leave this here.
#9 to #8 - vonspyder (06/14/2013) [-]
Ive always loved that youtube clip. I still disagree with it...I think the enterprise could take on the death star and win even easier than against a star destroyer.
Ive always loved that youtube clip. I still disagree with it...I think the enterprise could take on the death star and win even easier than against a star destroyer.
#10 to #9 - jimjimmerson (06/14/2013) [-]
The clip clearly shows the Enterprise P'WnING a Star Destroyer. Plus with the lead time to get out of the way of the Death Star it could certainly do considerable damage. Especially if it were to separate into 2 ships. OR if it looked like

<< (All Good Things Refit)
#11 to #10 - vonspyder (06/14/2013) [-]
Since its always taken just one shot to destroy a death star I propose that once enterprise destroys the endor shield generator it can beam a torpedo wherever it needs to in order to destroy the death star, not to mention that enterprise' sensors are far more sophisticated than those on any know star wars ships in canon.
Since its always taken just one shot to destroy a death star I propose that once enterprise destroys the endor shield generator it can beam a torpedo wherever it needs to in order to destroy the death star, not to mention that enterprise' sensors are far more sophisticated than those on any know star wars ships in canon.
User avatar #12 to #11 - jimjimmerson (06/14/2013) [-]
The only issue is that the technology is from another galaxy, however it's in the past, even by Star Trek time. So if you consider them in the same universe the Enterprise would be more advanced since it's from the future. It's scanners are more likely to find where the shields are (since a lot of the time they target weapons, shields, etc) and if they are going against LASERS in the actual sense the navogational deflector can take care of some of it. With transporters, phasers, warp drive, multi-vector assault capabilities, photon torpedoes, (some sort of cannon of destruction, and a cloaking (AGT)), auxiliary vessels with similar armaments, it's 1701-D FTW!
User avatar #1 - barbwirepain (06/13/2013) [-]
star destroyer, they're not a bunch of talkers they are men of action
User avatar #3 to #1 - vonspyder (06/13/2013) [-]
Well....clones of action anyway....
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