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User avatar #1 - euchreplayer (05/12/2012) [-]
what...i'm confuzzled after reading this..for i was forced to go to church as a kid. still holds true, only go when forced. reason why? i dont believe in the stuff.
User avatar #3 to #1 - jokeface ONLINE (05/12/2012) [-]
well i don't even go to church. that's not required and i don't like it. uncomfortable seats, lousy music, boring sermons, people i don't enjoy enough to maintain regular relationships with. i can pray at home when i wake up at 10:30 and if i have a question i'll read the Bible.

Christianity is easy if you know how to get around all the pain in the ass customary behavior thats "expected" of you. but all you really need is to have faith in Jesus. can i ask why you don't believe in Him?
User avatar #6 to #3 - euchreplayer (05/12/2012) [-]
sure i don't mind. my first idea on religion is that it was mainly created to control the masses, and also teach moral values. If you look at past societies, priest or those who had similar roles were in upper levels of society. Religion has always been a path to power and influence. I also think that if a higher being were to exist that created the earth, man, and so on, i can't believe that we are special. for all we know this being created worlds elsewhere and said they were created in his image when they look completely different. not only that, but the bible was written by man, not god. man is flawed, one only has to look at society today to realize that. so, everything we do is almost guaranteed to also be flawed. my thoughts aren't fully complete on the subject because i also believe that if a higher being does exist, they will make themselves known to me, if they care that people follow them. I also think that religion, belief in something or otherwise, is best kept to one's self, which is why i try not to talk about it unless asked.
User avatar #9 to #6 - jokeface ONLINE (05/12/2012) [-]
you fall into a category of people that slightly frustrate me because you all confuse faith with religion. Christianity is a religion, and all religions are flawed in some aspect or another. but within Christianity is the core faith from which various versions of religions stem, and this core faith is the only thing that's truly important. you're correct in saying that religion has been used to control people and teach moral codes. but the message of our faith is that the only thing that's truly important is accepting Jesus as your savior and loving Him.

and as for the Bible being written by man, please understand that while a man may have been the only holding the pen (or quill, or whatever), much of the words were spoken to him by God Himself. and because man was holding the pen, he was able to change things, which is why there are so many versions of the Bible and why it appears so full of flaws/contradictions.

imo, the last page should say "regards, God. dictated but not read."
User avatar #18 to #9 - euchreplayer (05/12/2012) [-]
it probably doesn't help i've never had very bright priests/ministers or whatever you want to call them to explain it, let alone explain it at all. sure i'm actually a confirmed united methodist, but learn much through confirmation class, nope. if i understood what my sunday school teachers tried, and failed in being clear, to teach correctly, then if you believe in God, Jesus, and so on, you will be saved, no matter what. hmm.. maybe agnostic is a better term for my stance. not really taking one side or the other. It is like I want to believe that there is something out there that actually looks out for people, but my brain rejects the idea of a higher power as too similar to magic, thus false, and also if there is a higher power they are doing a poor job of maintaining this world, so why should they be worshiped?
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