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User avatar #6184 - dashdashdash (08/05/2012) [-]
Why so many Islamophobics on FJ
#6201 to #6184 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
"phobia":  an exaggerated usually inexplicable and illogical fear of a particular object, class of objects, or situation   
   
There is no such thing as an islamophobe.   
Labeling dissident voices as collectively insane and deranged is a poltical ploy used by demagogues and tyrants throughout history.   
   
Those who fear that fucked up deathcult called Islam have excellent reasons to do so, dogmatic oppression and wanton violence being among the most obvious.   
   
I for one, do not fear it. I merely hate it.
"phobia": an exaggerated usually inexplicable and illogical fear of a particular object, class of objects, or situation

There is no such thing as an islamophobe.
Labeling dissident voices as collectively insane and deranged is a poltical ploy used by demagogues and tyrants throughout history.

Those who fear that fucked up deathcult called Islam have excellent reasons to do so, dogmatic oppression and wanton violence being among the most obvious.

I for one, do not fear it. I merely hate it.
User avatar #6203 to #6201 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
You dont know shit about islam.
User avatar #6204 to #6203 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
I bet I know more than you do.
User avatar #6205 to #6204 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
No you don't, Im muslim and I actually learned about Islam from muslims
not from some propaganda islam-hating hate-preaching website
User avatar #6206 to #6205 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
Exactly. You don't know shit. You've been told what they wanted you to hear.

Al-Taqiyya: A doctrine declaring any muslim MUST lie and decieve if the reputation of his "religion" is in jeopardy.

In a sense, you're just another victim.
User avatar #6207 to #6206 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
How stupid are you?
you dont know Arabic, so don't use it son okay!
Taqiya means lying about my religion IF AND ONLY IF saying the truth is going to harm MY LIFE

Please stop it, you are just showing how ignorant atheists can be, and I was just starting to respect some of them.
User avatar #6227 to #6207 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
You believe in an epiletic "prophet" and what drivel he drooled in his seizures, yet you label me stupid? Hypocrisy at its finest.

Apparently I know well enough. And yes, you named one possible interpretation of Taqiyya, among many much more treacherous and malicious ones.
Something about "smiling in the faces of the people we truly curse in our hearts".

Here's some things more I know: Dar el Harb, Jihad, Hudna, Jizya and Dhimmi.
Care to explain those or should I do it?
People reading this, I encourage you to do at least a quick google search on these terms and see for yourself.
User avatar #6237 to #6227 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
You do not mention my prophet.
Talk about my faith and teachings, but please leave my prophet out of this.
I don't want to discuss my prophet with people like.

No, thats the only interpretation of Taqiyya, they aren't any others, IF there are, they should be considered wrong.

Again, Please don't use Arabic, your just showing me that you learned about islam through the internet.

Dar Al-Harb
Is a term used to describe non-muslim countries, it was created by the Ottomans, Which I don't like, the Ottomans killed my people the Shiite muslims and hunted us down, so I don't consider Dar Al-Harb part of the Islamic teachings.

Jihad
In Shia Islam Jihad is only defending oneself against attackers , and Islam in general, Jihad means defending one self, and fighting people who started the fight.
Some scholars translate the word fighting as in fighting metally not physically, for example I would the Westernazation of the mid-east not the West it self
Secondly the "Fighting" Jihad is considered the small jihad, the big Jihad, is considered fight oneself, meaning trying to prevent my self falling into sins.

To be continued...
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User avatar #6241 to #6237 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
Again, you're not in charge of what I can and cannot talk about. Don't like it? Tough luck. Get a fatwa declared against me or quit your whining.

Now I could believe you or Abu-Ad Darda, companion of Muhammad himself, to which "we smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them," is attributed.

Ottomans? Oh, but that is wrong.
Dar al Harb, meaning "House of War" or "Regions of War" is a term for all the world that is kufr, unbelieving and is to be turned into Dar el Islam, literally House of Submission through the means of Jihad and Hidshra.
It was coined by Abu Hanifa, "the greatest Imam" who lived around the year 700 to 750.
Ottomans were from 1300 to the 1920s, so your margin of error is just shy of half a millenium at best, you idiot.

Jihad is religious war of conquest, nothing else, roughly equivalent to the Catholic crusades issued to answer it. I won't go into detail here, everyone interested do a quick google search. The facts are out there.

Everyone reading this, get a free online Quran or grab a copy somewhere in a bookshop or library and search for Sura 9 Verse 5.
Keep in mind there is a theological mechanism that makes this one verse rule out all the ones he contradicts. Damn shame, if you think about it.
User avatar #6249 to #6241 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
Abu-Addarda was a sunni muslim, that I dont like and I dont consider part of my faith, besides he's human, he's not a prophet, his words are only man words they dont mean anything.

But it was mainly used with the ottomans, they were the ones that started using that term
and Abu Hanifa isn't the greatest iman at all, the greatest imam is Ali ibn Abi Talib no doubt, and then his son Hassan and hussain
Abu hanifa is a sunni scholar not shiite.

No Jihad isn't conquest its defending and fighting and the attacker.
User avatar #6250 to #6249 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
Not necessarily physical attacks.
Attacking the Islamic Idea and trying to shove your culture and beliefs down our throats thats the kind of attacks im talking about
User avatar #6246 to #6241 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
lol sura 9:5

I dont want to go deep into this, I know the full answer am just too lazy.
Just the entire surrah and then read the tafseer behind it.
and you'll see
User avatar #6248 to #6246 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
and don't read from an Islam-hating website.
User avatar #6238 to #6237 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
Hudna means truce idiot.

Jizzya is a tax Christians and Jews would pay, in return they were protected by the muslims, the muslims allowed to practice their religion freely and only asked for taxes in return how is that a bad thing?

Dhimmi are the christians and the jews that live in Islamic nations, they are allowed to practice their religion freely and they have to pay the Jizzya in return they get protection.
User avatar #6243 to #6238 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
Hudna is the only possible relation between Dar al Harb and Dar el Islam besides Jihad. It may only last as long as the muslim forces are inferior.
When I asked you to explain them I meant truthfully. Though looking at the doctrine of Taqiyya, maybe I expected too much.

Jizya is a form of subjugation. The commandment goes something along the lines of "... until they (unbelievers) pay and feel themselves subdued".
They would be thrown to the ground, kicked and spat upon to show them their supposed inferiority to the muslims. Again, do some simple research, it's all right there.

Dhimmi is nothing else than a second rate citizen, a second rate human, a slave in all but name, to be used and commanded by the believers as those see fit, if need by through violence.

By the heavens, you are making a mess of this.
User avatar #6244 to #6243 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
Truce means hudna. end of story.

Jizzya is taxes

Dhimmi are Christians and jews living in islamic nations.

Its as simple as that you just trying so hard to pick something wrong with it

User avatar #6245 to #6244 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
I wish it was that simple, the world would be a better one.

I can only repeat myself, people reading this, do your own research and take nothing for granted.
User avatar #6247 to #6245 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
It is that simple, some muslims might exaggerate and use religion for their own purposes, but according Islam and not muslims it is that simple
User avatar #6255 to #6247 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
I say it's the other way 'round.
Muslims can be amazing and wonderful people, but there's a cancer called Islam festering in their hearts, poisoning their thoughts and minds.

Some fight through it and live exemplary lives despite that burden, but all would be better off if it did not exist.
User avatar #6260 to #6255 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
Islam is what pushed Arabia foward, at time where there was constant wars between bedo tribes, Islam unified them all, into one nation, one man did that, whether you like him or hate him you cant deny he was great and powerful
He was born in Quraysh one of the richest tribes in Arabia, all of his cousins had all the women and money etc... but he didn't he always meditated allone, even some of his family members hated him becuase he was so different from them, people in Arabia used to bury baby girls alive, but mohammed put an end to that, he did something great as much as you'd love to deny it.
Without islam we wouldn't have had Al-Gebra, advancements in Astronomy and chemistry etc...
User avatar #6257 to #6255 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
So you're saying that Bin Laden is an Amazing man, No, Religion never preaches hate and violence and it's always man that twists religion to his own personal needs
User avatar #6258 to #6257 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
You are beyond deluded if you merely think for a moment that idiocy holds any truth.
User avatar #6261 to #6258 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
Islam is a greatest thing that ever happend to Arabs
User avatar #6262 to #6261 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
From the innermost place of my soul, I pity you.
User avatar #6269 to #6262 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
They were achieved by people because of religion, Arabs and persians hated each other to death but islam brought together
Al-khawarzemy was persian and other scholars were persians who studied and taught with arabs
something that would have never happened before islam
User avatar #6267 to #6262 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
Shiites never killed (except safavid empire) it was all the ummayad and the abbasid ant then the ottomans and now the saudis

why cant I be proud of the fact that we created Al-Gebra
2/3 of the stars in the sky have arabic names
Jaber bin hayyan and ibn sena
Al-Jahez who in his book "The book of animals" theorized evolution way before darwin etc....
User avatar #6268 to #6267 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
Why do you not understand that all you listed was achieved by people, not by religion?
Is that so hard to understand?
User avatar #6265 to #6262 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
So you are dumb enough to say the Arabs didnt make any scientific advancement, they never were at one point in history the greatest race on earth, becuase of islam.
Europeans were in Dark ages, Islamic nations were the greatest
User avatar #6266 to #6265 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
Is that what you pride yourself on? A culture of murder and military conquest, living by the edge of the sword, claiming all you can kill as your own?

Yeah. Sounds about right.
User avatar #6263 to #6262 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
Islam is what pushed Arabia foward, at time where there was constant wars between bedo tribes, Islam unified them all, into one nation, one man did that, whether you like him or hate him you cant deny he was great and powerful
He was born in Quraysh one of the richest tribes in Arabia, all of his cousins had all the women and money etc... but he didn't he always meditated allone, even some of his family members hated him becuase he was so different from them, people in Arabia used to bury baby girls alive, but mohammed put an end to that, he did something great as much as you'd love to deny it.
Without islam we wouldn't have had Al-Gebra, advancements in Astronomy and chemistry etc...
User avatar #6264 to #6263 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
That man brought nothing but wanton madness, destruction, violence and war into this world.
And he brainwashed enough people into an explosive deathcult to have said madness still poison the whole world 1400 years later.
I don't know what it the greater crime.

Advancements? That's one hell of a way to misspell spoils of war.
Name anything of supposedly islamic-arabian origin and I will tell you where it was plundered from.
User avatar #6218 to #6207 - dimetrodondanya (08/06/2012) [-]
I don't recall him ever stating that he's an atheist. Nice assumptions, there.
User avatar #6229 to #6218 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
I agree, assumptions are the way of the idiot and the asshat.
He's right, though, this time.
User avatar #6223 to #6218 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
Why are you thumbing him up and me down?
He's claiming he knows his shit, when clearly he doesn't !

yes, ofcourse I assumed he's an Atheist for 2 reasons
1-FJ is like 90 percent atheist
2-Most christians I've spoken to on FJ were very respectful
#6225 to #6223 - drmcninja (08/06/2012) [-]
I would stay off the politics board if I were you. It started out okay, but predictably became a haven for libertarians and people with unpopular viewpoints (neither of which which are a bad thing), the latter of which opened the door for extremists. And I don't mean extremists just as politically extremist, because those aren't necessarily bad either, I mean the misinformed extremists who are unwilling to listen to any form of reason.

This isn't the place for you, or really for me.
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User avatar #6233 to #6225 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
" I mean the misinformed extremists who are unwilling to listen to any form of reason."

You're not talking about me here, are you?
#6235 to #6233 - drmcninja (08/06/2012) [-]
Yes, but not exclusively. You're part of a much larger group, and your rhetoric isn't nearly as bad as some of the others. But you still do fall in there.
User avatar #6236 to #6235 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
Why?
I take no offense to the extremist-part; in some people's perspectives I may appear extreme, I guess, but all the more to the "unwilling to listen to any form of reason".

How do you arrive at that conclusion? How do you know me so well you could make that assumption?
Let's keep this respectful and civilised, but I really wish to know.
User avatar #6226 to #6225 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
Yeah you're right!
It just pisses me off when people claim they know about Islam when in reality they dont,
#6228 to #6226 - drmcninja (08/06/2012) [-]
I know, I understand completely, especially on a site where religion as a whole is already so unpopular.
User avatar #6208 to #6207 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
And Taqiya was created by the Shiite imam, Jaafar the honest, because the shiite minority were being killed and hunted down by the Ummyad and the Abbasid
User avatar #6232 to #6208 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
Taqiyya is directly derived from the Quran, you fucking idiot.
3:28 and 16:106, to name the actual passages.
The Shia-Sunni schism did not occur until after the death of the mad prophet, though, as you may or may not know.

Seems I know your holy book better than you do and you're the one who doesn't know shit.
User avatar #6240 to #6232 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
You never the real quran, you just read post about people hating on the quran
User avatar #6239 to #6232 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
surra 3:28
Tuqqat mentioned here is different than taqqiya


suea 16:106

This doesn't meantion taqqiya in any form.
User avatar #6242 to #6239 - techketzer (08/06/2012) [-]
3:28 "Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah , except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination."

"except when taking precaution against them"
There's the crunchy bit. Taqiyya right there.

16:106
"Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief... except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who [willingly] open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah , and for them is a great punishment;"

"except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith"
Are you stupid or just illiterate?
User avatar #6209 to #6208 - dashdashdash (08/06/2012) [-]
It's not used nowadays mostly because Shiite muslims are starting to get recognized, although they stil suffer discrimination and hate from many muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia, Bahrain etc...
User avatar #6195 to #6184 - barbwirepain (08/05/2012) [-]
i honestly have no fucking clue, i dated a nonpracticing muslim last year
#6192 to #6184 - anonymous (08/05/2012) [-]
Muslims are the new niggers.
#6185 to #6184 - reaganomix (08/05/2012) [-]
Because of the failed doctrine of Cultural Marxism and the Islamification of Europe.

Muh Twin Towers
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