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#510 - ginginhunter (06/12/2012) [-]
who is an anarchist here in funnyjunk?
User avatar #572 to #510 - deltadeltadelta (06/12/2012) [-]
Anarchists and Communists are extraordinarily naive. Both always lead to tyrannical dictatorship.
#646 to #572 - FuckingMagnets (06/13/2012) [-]
Every strive toward communism is either sabotaged by capitalists or opportunists like Stalin. We need a real dictatorship of the proletariat, like pre-stalin soviet union. If Trotsky would have taken over the newly socialist USSR after Lenin's death, he would have pushed for workers revolution in Germany. Subsequently, Germany, an industrialized nation, would industrialize Russia. No rise of fascism, no Hitler, no Stalinist gulags, no five year plan.

Also, Marxist theory doesn't say anything about any vanguard or party coup. It's about spreading class consciousness so that the workers would organize revolution. This is a concept both anarchists and communists revere. The split has to do with the military takeover by a vanguard party, as the Bolsheviks did.

"If Socialism can only be realized when the intellectual development of all the people permits it, then we shall not see Socialism for at least five hundred years."
- Vladimir Lenin

What is your political stance delta? At least you aren't a fucking Alex Jones Ron Paulite "jews did 9/11" and "The US funded Lenin" libertarian.
#511 to #510 - Mentoman (06/12/2012) [-]
Anarchism sounds like a "fun" concept, but without some sort of governing body, there is nothing to stop the psychopath with the gun from taking control, which would be just as bad as the governments we have today, only that government couldn't provide energy, food, housing, or protection.

As much as people hate modern governments, they fail to realize that those same governments are the things that give them the quality of life that they have, so that they can hate those governments that provide that life.
#647 to #511 - FuckingMagnets (06/13/2012) [-]
This same argument was used by monarchs for hundreds and hundreds of years against a little thing called democracy.
User avatar #513 to #511 - ginginhunter (06/12/2012) [-]
but the goverments take control of the people , sucking out theyre money and blood , the capitalism must beoverthrown in order that the people will live equally and there wont be classes
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give what you can
take what you need
#514 to #513 - Mentoman (06/12/2012) [-]
People won't live in equality, especially not with anarchism. It sounds pretty, but is incedibly flawed.

For instance, without a government regulating the power plants that deliver energy to your computer, how would you post this comment here?

Without a government to protect you/keep the peace, who would stop the man with the bigger gun from taking your things, or taking your life?

Without a government to regulate the shipping of food from distribution centers to stores/restaurants, what would you eat?
User avatar #516 to #514 - ginginhunter (06/12/2012) [-]
the people will regulate the power plants , the food shipmenet , people thatcan , its simple a man that wont give what he can wont get what need , in spain there was an anarchist country , and everything was alright till the second world war came in , if you want a modern example let me tell you that the is a own here that lives by these rules of anarchism and theyre lifestyle is pretty good , so i gave you two examples , can you give me atleat 2 that anarchist community is bad?
#517 to #516 - Mentoman (06/12/2012) [-]
Just because a society can last that way for a few years, that doesn't mean that it is a stable community. It has been proven, time and time again, that a capitalistic, unified, organized government is the only lasting system.
User avatar #519 to #517 - ginginhunter (06/12/2012) [-]
maybe , it will last becuz the people will live in fear of no success in life , to be serious , i dont like living in fear , it wil long enough for people to understand its better that way , anarchism that is , capitalism is making people hungry and poor , did you know that 50% of food that is sold im super markets is just thrown away? why not send it to those starving kids? only becuz they make no money of it
#521 to #519 - Mentoman (06/12/2012) [-]
Did you know that the government has nothing to do with that? Its the people. You don't hate the government, you hate the people, but you lack the courage to admit it. Instead of whining about it on the internet, go start an awareness campaign, if it really matters to you so much.
User avatar #522 to #521 - ginginhunter (06/12/2012) [-]
the goverment made these people like this , im not whining , im just stating a fact , awarness campaign? people know about it perfectly , the thing is its time to take action
#523 to #522 - Mentoman (06/12/2012) [-]
The government isn't causing people to do this.

If people know, then its not the government's fault that they don't do anything.

It isn't healthy to project your frustrations against humanity on a certain group.
User avatar #559 to #523 - ginginhunter (06/12/2012) [-]
the man was born under influence of the capitalism , thats th only thing he ever knew , so yes they do make people like that
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